Comments on: But… What If We Lose? http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/but-what-if-we-lose/ Firedoglake weblog Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:05:14 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: whitebeard http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/but-what-if-we-lose/#comment-1351439 whitebeard Sat, 22 Mar 2008 14:32:46 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/but-what-if-we-lose/#comment-1351439 <p>“I think the ME’s best response to Dubya urging them to give democracy a try would be, ‘After you.’”</p> <p>You bet. Our “democracy” is clearly on display when a political party gets to decide whose votes count and whose don’t based on their party rules. And, yes, there is a slew of additional evidence that this is not a democracy, but a tyrannical republic.</p> “I think the ME’s best response to Dubya urging them to give democracy a try would be, ‘After you.’”

You bet. Our “democracy” is clearly on display when a political party gets to decide whose votes count and whose don’t based on their party rules. And, yes, there is a slew of additional evidence that this is not a democracy, but a tyrannical republic.

]]> By: sailmaker http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/but-what-if-we-lose/#comment-1351293 sailmaker Sat, 22 Mar 2008 08:53:40 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/but-what-if-we-lose/#comment-1351293 <p>I agree Saddam was set up, but why? Why would we want to him to sucker him into overrunning Kuwait? I ask in all seriousness. </p> <p>Iraq’s economy was in shambles from the Iran-Iraq war. Oil prices had collapsed because Kuwait had flooded the market with oil (and maybe slant drilled into Iraq to get some of the oil, who knows). I can see why Saddam wanted to over run Kuwait, but why would WE want him to overrun Kuwait?</p> I agree Saddam was set up, but why? Why would we want to him to sucker him into overrunning Kuwait? I ask in all seriousness.

Iraq’s economy was in shambles from the Iran-Iraq war. Oil prices had collapsed because Kuwait had flooded the market with oil (and maybe slant drilled into Iraq to get some of the oil, who knows). I can see why Saddam wanted to over run Kuwait, but why would WE want him to overrun Kuwait?

]]> By: Jkat http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/but-what-if-we-lose/#comment-1351272 Jkat Sat, 22 Mar 2008 07:49:14 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/but-what-if-we-lose/#comment-1351272 <p>make a list .. and the next time we need to lose a war .. we can call all these guys up …</p> make a list .. and the next time we need to lose a war .. we can call all these guys up …

]]> By: work2fish http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/but-what-if-we-lose/#comment-1351017 work2fish Sat, 22 Mar 2008 04:37:38 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/but-what-if-we-lose/#comment-1351017 <p>We didn’t lose. We won.<br /> We destroyed their country completely, to show the world that no country should be allowed to run it’s own affairs if those affairs aren’t controlled by the US Government and corporations. That’s a victory.</p> <p>We took out evil Saddam. That’s a victory.</p> <p>We split Iraq into three separate dysfunctional tribal states: Shia, Sunni, Kurds. That’s a victory.</p> <p>We made the tribal/feudal leaders of those three religious serfdoms wholly dependent upon us for weapons and military support. That’s a victory.</p> <p>We have permanent bases in all three serfdoms, where we can send a stready stream of army guys and which must have billions of dollars of weapons provided by contractors. That’s a victory, to us in the defense industry.</p> <p>We jacked up the price of oil. That’s a victory (for the Bushies at least)</p> <p>We weakened our country, must greatly reduce services to our citizens, and are in the process of bankrupting our Federal Government. That’s a victory (for the really wealthy tycoons of America anyway).</p> <p>We have made perpetual warfare a patriotic duty and effective Republican campaign platform, at least in the eyes of the super-wealthy and the super-stupid-but authoritarian poor and religious. That’s a victory.</p> <p>We’re winning. If you say we’re losing, that just means you don’t understand the goals of this war. Get in the game! Join a defense contractor or oil corporation, or at least invest in us.</p> We didn’t lose. We won.
We destroyed their country completely, to show the world that no country should be allowed to run it’s own affairs if those affairs aren’t controlled by the US Government and corporations. That’s a victory.

We took out evil Saddam. That’s a victory.

We split Iraq into three separate dysfunctional tribal states: Shia, Sunni, Kurds. That’s a victory.

We made the tribal/feudal leaders of those three religious serfdoms wholly dependent upon us for weapons and military support. That’s a victory.

We have permanent bases in all three serfdoms, where we can send a stready stream of army guys and which must have billions of dollars of weapons provided by contractors. That’s a victory, to us in the defense industry.

We jacked up the price of oil. That’s a victory (for the Bushies at least)

We weakened our country, must greatly reduce services to our citizens, and are in the process of bankrupting our Federal Government. That’s a victory (for the really wealthy tycoons of America anyway).

We have made perpetual warfare a patriotic duty and effective Republican campaign platform, at least in the eyes of the super-wealthy and the super-stupid-but authoritarian poor and religious. That’s a victory.

We’re winning. If you say we’re losing, that just means you don’t understand the goals of this war. Get in the game! Join a defense contractor or oil corporation, or at least invest in us.

]]> By: Eli http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/but-what-if-we-lose/#comment-1350950 Eli Sat, 22 Mar 2008 04:09:27 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/but-what-if-we-lose/#comment-1350950 <p>Likewise, DW - good weekend to you.</p> Likewise, DW – good weekend to you.

]]> By: DWBartoo http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/but-what-if-we-lose/#comment-1350943 DWBartoo Sat, 22 Mar 2008 04:07:03 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/but-what-if-we-lose/#comment-1350943 <p>Good night, Eli.</p> <p>Always a pleasure, full and complete, never a half-measure.</p> <p>Well, off to dreams of a better</p> Good night, Eli.

Always a pleasure, full and complete, never a half-measure.

Well, off to dreams of a better

]]> By: Eli http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/but-what-if-we-lose/#comment-1350938 Eli Sat, 22 Mar 2008 04:04:35 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/but-what-if-we-lose/#comment-1350938 <p>That might actually work, come to think of it. Maybe if there’s another Late Nite slot open.</p> That might actually work, come to think of it. Maybe if there’s another Late Nite slot open.

]]> By: DWBartoo http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/but-what-if-we-lose/#comment-1350933 DWBartoo Sat, 22 Mar 2008 04:03:42 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/but-what-if-we-lose/#comment-1350933 <p>Me too. Maybe you could do a post about that.</p> <p>The incredible pleasure (and relief) to have ‘postulated’, ‘anticipated’ or even just plain guessed, WRONG!!!</p> <p>Well, since we’ll NEVER be wrong about everything, we could go for a happy medium, and settle for half ….</p> <p>Maybe a seance … with a happy …</p> Me too. Maybe you could do a post about that.

The incredible pleasure (and relief) to have ‘postulated’, ‘anticipated’ or even just plain guessed, WRONG!!!

Well, since we’ll NEVER be wrong about everything, we could go for a happy medium, and settle for half ….

Maybe a seance … with a happy …

]]> By: Eli http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/but-what-if-we-lose/#comment-1350909 Eli Sat, 22 Mar 2008 03:55:36 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/but-what-if-we-lose/#comment-1350909 <p>I would be sooo happy to be wrong about everything.</p> I would be sooo happy to be wrong about everything.

]]> By: DWBartoo http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/but-what-if-we-lose/#comment-1350901 DWBartoo Sat, 22 Mar 2008 03:53:54 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/21/but-what-if-we-lose/#comment-1350901 <p>Now that, Eli, is not so reassuring. But I would bet that your assessment is correct.</p> <p>Sometimes, it ain’t a pleasure being right (can we still use that word) about such things.</p> Now that, Eli, is not so reassuring. But I would bet that your assessment is correct.

Sometimes, it ain’t a pleasure being right (can we still use that word) about such things.

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