Comments on: You again? Why aren’t you gone? Oh, right. http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/20/you-again-why-arent-you-gone-oh-right/ Firedoglake weblog Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:56:15 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: JimTheCynic http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/20/you-again-why-arent-you-gone-oh-right/#comment-1346905 JimTheCynic Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:13:03 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/20/you-again-why-arent-you-gone-oh-right/#comment-1346905 <blockquote><p>I finally understand the administration’s position.</p> <blockquote><p>We dare not leave Iraq now, or else “chaos will ensue.” Rather, we must stay the course until “the situation is stabilized,” after which we can withdraw with honor and call it victory.</p></blockquote> </blockquote> <p>.</p> <p>The real problem with this is that <strong>no matter when</strong> we leave Iraq, chaos will ensue. </p> <p>It’s time to cut our losses and go home.<br /> (btw… “losses” doesn’t begin to describe the incredible damage, the heinous number of death, and untold trillions of dollars expended to maintain this military occupation)</p>

I finally understand the administration’s position.

We dare not leave Iraq now, or else “chaos will ensue.” Rather, we must stay the course until “the situation is stabilized,” after which we can withdraw with honor and call it victory.

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The real problem with this is that no matter when we leave Iraq, chaos will ensue.

It’s time to cut our losses and go home.
(btw… “losses” doesn’t begin to describe the incredible damage, the heinous number of death, and untold trillions of dollars expended to maintain this military occupation)

]]> By: JimTheCynic http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/20/you-again-why-arent-you-gone-oh-right/#comment-1346901 JimTheCynic Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:07:33 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/20/you-again-why-arent-you-gone-oh-right/#comment-1346901 <p>Is the CIA so incredibly inept that they can’t find the logistics trail for a kidney dialysis machine deep in the wilds of the Afghanistan/Pakistan border region? After six years it shouldn’t be all that difficult.</p> <p>They do <em>want </em>to find him, don’t they?</p> <p>Doesn’t someone in the CIA want to shove OBL up Little Georgie’s ass for his throwing the Agency overboard in his quest (okay, okay … in Cheney’s quest) for world domination?</p> Is the CIA so incredibly inept that they can’t find the logistics trail for a kidney dialysis machine deep in the wilds of the Afghanistan/Pakistan border region? After six years it shouldn’t be all that difficult.

They do want to find him, don’t they?

Doesn’t someone in the CIA want to shove OBL up Little Georgie’s ass for his throwing the Agency overboard in his quest (okay, okay … in Cheney’s quest) for world domination?

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/20/you-again-why-arent-you-gone-oh-right/#comment-1346793 ThingsComeUndone Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:21:38 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/20/you-again-why-arent-you-gone-oh-right/#comment-1346793 <p>Yeah I agree this site has me confused I don’t link the Dept of Defense and warm and fuzzy vibes together often in my mind.</p> Yeah I agree this site has me confused I don’t link the Dept of Defense and warm and fuzzy vibes together often in my mind.

]]> By: Jkat http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/20/you-again-why-arent-you-gone-oh-right/#comment-1346792 Jkat Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:20:54 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/20/you-again-why-arent-you-gone-oh-right/#comment-1346792 <p>mc arthur was an old asia hand .. he understood the asian concept of total war .. few westerners ever internalize it .. or can be ruthless enough to practice it .. he knew the only reason to fight a war was to win it .. and he knew to win korea ..a proxy of china .. china would have to be absloutely defeated .. tactically sound and strategically correct on all counts .. but politically impossible .. what’s ironic about douglas mc arthur .. to me .. is that in attempting to be a pure militarian .. and consider only those military and strategic and tactical considerations .. he became the first general to be fired for “meddling in politics” .. when his intent was just the opposite..</p> mc arthur was an old asia hand .. he understood the asian concept of total war .. few westerners ever internalize it .. or can be ruthless enough to practice it .. he knew the only reason to fight a war was to win it .. and he knew to win korea ..a proxy of china .. china would have to be absloutely defeated .. tactically sound and strategically correct on all counts .. but politically impossible .. what’s ironic about douglas mc arthur .. to me .. is that in attempting to be a pure militarian .. and consider only those military and strategic and tactical considerations .. he became the first general to be fired for “meddling in politics” .. when his intent was just the opposite..

]]> By: cbl2 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/20/you-again-why-arent-you-gone-oh-right/#comment-1346788 cbl2 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:19:22 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/20/you-again-why-arent-you-gone-oh-right/#comment-1346788 <p><a href="http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=164521&title=the-dialogue-begins" rel="nofollow">test link</a></p> test link

]]> By: Jkat http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/20/you-again-why-arent-you-gone-oh-right/#comment-1346783 Jkat Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:14:48 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/20/you-again-why-arent-you-gone-oh-right/#comment-1346783 <p>hmmm tie that in with mc arthur’s blurb .. and no i don’t think that’s where george gets his take .. he has yet to ever take responsibility for any action ..anytime .. anywhere .. he can’t admit error .. it’s hard to get to any enlightened state of mind if one isn’t capable of admitting error .. imo ..</p> hmmm tie that in with mc arthur’s blurb .. and no i don’t think that’s where george gets his take .. he has yet to ever take responsibility for any action ..anytime .. anywhere .. he can’t admit error .. it’s hard to get to any enlightened state of mind if one isn’t capable of admitting error .. imo ..

]]> By: Raven http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/20/you-again-why-arent-you-gone-oh-right/#comment-1346781 Raven Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:13:17 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/20/you-again-why-arent-you-gone-oh-right/#comment-1346781 <p>Beats me, it came off that Pentgagon Meditation site. I know if he had his was China would be a cinder right now.</p> Beats me, it came off that Pentgagon Meditation site. I know if he had his was China would be a cinder right now.

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/20/you-again-why-arent-you-gone-oh-right/#comment-1346777 ThingsComeUndone Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:10:00 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/20/you-again-why-arent-you-gone-oh-right/#comment-1346777 <p>Did General Douglas MacArthur say that stuff?</p> Did General Douglas MacArthur say that stuff?

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/20/you-again-why-arent-you-gone-oh-right/#comment-1346771 ThingsComeUndone Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:08:28 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/20/you-again-why-arent-you-gone-oh-right/#comment-1346771 <p>This is strange I would expect our side to do something like this?</p> This is strange I would expect our side to do something like this?

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/20/you-again-why-arent-you-gone-oh-right/#comment-1346768 ThingsComeUndone Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:07:31 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/20/you-again-why-arent-you-gone-oh-right/#comment-1346768 <p>Is this where Bush gets his <em>Happy view of the war?</em></p> <p>“One predominant world view recognizes that ordinary people living ordinary lives are often afflicted with intense fears, anger, hatred, and a host of other undesirable personality traits. In other ways they may be exceptionally strong individuals. This humanistic world view recognizes the great psychological value of prayer, self-talk, and the power of suggestion for dealing with root causes of evil, but stops there in acknowledging influences of spirituality in world affairs.<br /> Any talk about spiritual warfare with fallen angels, devils, demons, Satan, and unclean spirits is regarded as absolute nonsense. Such concepts are often attributed to immature understanding of how the human mind works, and to first century concepts and terminology. Any extension of the influence of unseen entities from individuals to economic, political, or diplomatic issues or to modern day problems including war and terrorism is, therefore, considered to be due to overactive imagination and misunderstanding of psychological archetypes. According to this world view improvements in human character are to be realized only as each person takes responsibility for the consequences of their own thoughts and actions. “</p> <p><a href="http://pentagonmeditationclub.org/spiritualwarfare.htm" rel="nofollow">http://pentagonmeditationclub......arfare.htm</a></p> Is this where Bush gets his Happy view of the war?

“One predominant world view recognizes that ordinary people living ordinary lives are often afflicted with intense fears, anger, hatred, and a host of other undesirable personality traits. In other ways they may be exceptionally strong individuals. This humanistic world view recognizes the great psychological value of prayer, self-talk, and the power of suggestion for dealing with root causes of evil, but stops there in acknowledging influences of spirituality in world affairs.
Any talk about spiritual warfare with fallen angels, devils, demons, Satan, and unclean spirits is regarded as absolute nonsense. Such concepts are often attributed to immature understanding of how the human mind works, and to first century concepts and terminology. Any extension of the influence of unseen entities from individuals to economic, political, or diplomatic issues or to modern day problems including war and terrorism is, therefore, considered to be due to overactive imagination and misunderstanding of psychological archetypes. According to this world view improvements in human character are to be realized only as each person takes responsibility for the consequences of their own thoughts and actions. “

http://pentagonmeditationclub……arfare.htm

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