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The dog whistle antennae of the main stream media are finely tuned when they’re talking about Democrats. It’s the overt stuff from the GOP that seems to throw ‘em.
So while I’d love to be proven wrong, I’m guessing we’re not going to hear all that much about a McCain aide being "suspended" for pushing a YouTube of Obama, Wright and Malcom X that reinforces every racist attack currently in circulation. Says lobbyist Charles Black of the McCain campaign:
"What Sen. McCain has said repeatedly, is that these candidates cannot be held accountable for all the views of people who endorse them, or people who befriend them," Black said recently. "I don’t think Sen. McCain wants to get in the middle of a discussion about Sen. Obama’s former pastor, or his faith. He believes that people who endorse you, people who befriend you are entitled to their own views, but you are not held personally accountable."
Which is to say, McCain knows he can outsource this stuff and the beltway bores will never hold him accountable, so simply "suspending" the aide will be enough. David Broder saves his disappointment for those "missed opportunities" when McCain just does not crack the whip with those dang Iraqis. He won’t lower himself to deal in the messy stuff.
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Jane!
Wow… That’s the video everybody’s throwing a hissy over today? It sucks. It looks like a 4 year old did it. I mean it’s really bad.
McCain should fire whoever did this just because they suck at what they do.
My understanding is that it was put together by a producer of one of the wing nut talker shows. The suspended staffer was just doing a lot of forwarding of it.
I keep thinking up whisper campaigns. I guess we’re too good to use them, though…
It’s kind of curious, isn’t it, that Republican pols have essentially thrown in the towel over the November elections. Every day there is a report that another Republican has decided to retire. Yet it is the media that really are carrying the water for the Republicans and have decided to fight it out with the Democrats.
Well, well, we’re back to the old Bush faux self-righteousness of being above the fray. We all know it well from the godfather – others are your hitman. But we all know the godfather gave the order and/or approval.
either way… it sucks.
And the wingnut producer is now blaming a couple of other people for at least part of the video: ‘he says’. [from dKos]
Double standard, oh yeah.
I am wondering about everyones’ reaction to Taylor Marsh in her “Obama Slide Continues” commentary, including the unbelievable comments.
DoI is about to screw us again…
http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=1012
Yes.
As Atrios says, simple answers to simple questions.
Taylor Marsh has become a joke and a waste of time to worry about. I’ll put about as much time caring what’s going on in her world as I would Limbaugh’s.
that’s flat out looting our natural resources
They are trying to get as many of these done as they can before they get kicked out of office. Hopefully lawsuits can slow these kinds of deals until after the election when they can be ditched by a Democratic Administration.
Uh, yeeeah… of course. Reagan gave his speech in Philadelphia MS, and got away with it. What makes you think that McVain won’t be able to do the same thing to reassure his white-boy base the same way.
Video: If anyone used this suggested language on FDL the mods would stop it from posting. It is beyond distasteful. This video has a much more insidious purpose. It gives permission to wingnuts to act. It incites violence. Has the FBI looked into this? Or, are they the silent head-nodder?
well, it’s going to get a lot worse, I think …it’s going to be bumpy ride
I feel that this is not simply a rogue staffer, I think it is part of the overall plan. The fact that he was merely suspended is proof of that.
The video is out there now, so I see no reason to allow McCain to disassociate himself from it in any way.
If this is the type of attacks that we fear and can expect I say let them bring it. McCain can disassociate himself from it every day.
To surrender ourselves to the fear of their tactics is tantamount to surrendering ourselves to their Fascism itself. It is like staying home and huddling under the covers while the Nazis smash your neighbor’s windows on Kritallnacht.
make that Kristallnacht.
Taylor Marsh when she would post here never seemed exactly up on her facts. I’ve heard that she has gone over the cliff for Clinton. This is one of the dangers we face on the left side of the blogosphere no matter which candidate we support. We must be reasoned and fact based. Otherwise there is no meaningful difference between us and wingnuttia.
the problem is, this stuff keeps working
Bubble city.
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Citizen Hamsher and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
OK it’s time that the Democratic Party step up led by Mrs. Clinton-McCain to announce a full scale assault on the fascist Wurlitzer and get Obama’s back on this right now. If Clinton-McCain stands up for Obama she not only shows some strength of character (which I don’t think she’s got) but she shows where her loyalty lies…does she want to end the fascist lock on minority government or is she really a Lieberman-fascist? If she were to end the assault on Obama I think she might stand a chance to take the nomination to the floor with a shot at the Super Delegates…however, if she doesn’t then the Democratic Party establishment should have a little sit-down backroom civics lesson with the Witch from Illinois and end this thing. This should happen BEFORE Pennsylvania…
Make no mistake, Mrs. Clinton-McCain can end the assault on Obama right now if she chooses to…if she doesn’t, then the Democratic Party “elders” should end her candidacy.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, FEAR IS JEST A WORD AND IT WON’T WORK ANYMORE…NOT THIS TIME!!
Digg it
Maybe this “rogue staffer” can get a consulting job (or something) with the Hudson Institute with Scooter.
That’s what the Germans said before they had no choice but to join the party themselves. Or the Italians after Mussolini personally murdered Matteotti.
Yes, and when the MSM keeps replaying and repeating everything Wright said, and keeps asking why Barack didn’t leave his church I want to reguritate. I actually get a queasy stomach watching someone as good as Obama get slimed and not just by the Repugs,by our own Dems also. Our supposedly balanced news media. Ya, right.
(sotto voce) Hey Margot … Cheney is a Dick … pass it on … *g*
He probably will.
Me sense is that the Rs are gonna go down big time, but you would never know from the polling.. horse race crap they spew daily.
They DO want a race because it makes for $$$
Media Whores is the prefect description. Ain’t it.
The one bright spot about this video is they’re scraping the bottom of the barrel and are therefore, pretty much defeated …
Right now they’re talking about Barack Obama’s statement about his grandmother being a typical white woman, that she reacted in a certain way to blacks when she met them on the street, and that her reaction was bred into her. I am a white woman, but I take no offense at that statement! Why would I? I completely understand it. Why? Because my mother lived with us for several years when my kids were preteens and just turning into teens. One day as I was serving dinner, my mother was talking and she said the N word. I never remember hearing her say that before. I don’t remember racial stuff in my home when I was a kid, although I do remember it being addressed in the ethnic Catholic school I attended. I thank God for those nuns that taught me. They said never, never be prejudiced. It’s not right, it’s not Christian. You are Catholics, and Catholics have also been known to experience prejudice, so just don’t do it. When I heard my own mother utter that word in my home, I stopped what I was doing and in front of my kids, I asked my mother to never, never say that word again in front of my kids. I made it clear that as far as I was concerned it was the same as saying the F word in front of them, and I would never appreciate it. It never happened again, because she knew very well that I would make a real issue of it. But yes, especially to a certain age group, that sort of thing was a part of many in the white ethnic cultures.
The tape loop issue must be magnified, ridiculed, and otherwise mocked in a total blogswarm.
I predict that McCain will blame this video on Iran and al Qaeda working together.
Given the time until the Pennsylvania primary, all of this could have an inoculating effect. Especially if we don’t stand for it.
McCain himself is not a racist…but his surrogates might well be, and there’ll be more of this kinda stuff in general if Obama is the Dem nominee…but it’ll backfire…
Hiya again Jane…*g*
Hear Hear !
I sure hope you are right. How is the weather up ther in the north country.
OT Met a couple from Burnsville they are buying a home down here in TX in fact from my Home Buyilder. Met themat the Walgreen/’s Saturday. Small world HUH
So why are we promoting this video ourselves? Rove has got to be dying of laughter. An aide gets “suspended” and we do their dirty work by talking about it forever? I don’t get it.
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Citizen Petrocelli:
“…they’re scarping the bottom of the barrel and therefore, pretty much defeated…”
Absolutely right and the only hope they have is to so weaken the Democratic Party goin’ in to 2009 so as to take control again in 2010 and 2012… and don’t forget that Mrs. Clinton-McCain can bury the fascists once and for all by gettin’ Obama’s back on this and assurin’ super majorities from 2009 thru 2012.
Let’s put the heat where it can do the most good, where we have some leverage, on Clinton-McCain and the Republicrats.
KEEP THE FAITH, WE CAN’T LET ‘EM GET AWAY WITH THIS – NOT THIS TIME!!!
Being half East Coast-Italian and half-Hoosier, that speech resonated with me as well. I had the few remaining remnants of that nun class as overlords myself, and while the discipline was overbearing and I witnessed some often severe corporal punishment (object lessons can be powerful, made dam sure it never happened to me), that message that we were on an in-between rung of the ethnic status ladder, among many others, made it all worth it.
spring is here in the North Country…high 40s, sunny…first day of spring!
Burnsville, yikes, the suburbs…am a city person myself…and yep: the racist stuff will backfire. Too explicit. Americans believe more in the Bradley effect…*g*
If someone thinks what Tommie Smith and John Carlos did at the Mexico City Olympics was racist or hateful nothing is going to change their pea brains now.
I could only be so hopeful that it could be delayed by the Courts… Does this rate as an addition to your list…? ;-)
my poor daughter is doing a round of family practice in a nebraska town of like 1100 people, mostly republican and she’s going crazy … poor thing just called me, she’s going bugf**k there…
one of my best friends lives in burnsville…
What about this McBush slur in 2000…:
“On his campaign bus recently, Sen. John McCain told reporters, “I hated the gooks. I will hate them as long as I live.” Although McCain said he was referring only to his prison guards, there are many reasons why his use of the word “gook” is offensive and alarming.
It is offensive because by using a racial epithet that has historically been used to demean all Asians to describe his captors, McCain failed to make a distinction between his torturers and an entire racial group.”
http://www.commondreams.org/views/030200-104.htm
It is alarming because a major candidate for president publicly used a racial epithet, refused to apologize for doing so and remains a legitimate contender. “
I think the longer the race issue plays, the more worn out it’s going to get. Racists would never for Obama anyway.
If Obama gets the nod, moderates and independents will be in a position to make a decission about continuing carreeing towards economic disaster, more war, and rewarding racist attacks, or voting for their interests. I happen to believe that most will vote for their own interests. Couple that with the younger folks who don’t view race as big issue and I do believe we will come out on top.
It will get ugly no doubt about it.
ding!
racisism isn’t a you are you arent kinda thing … it’s a matter of degrees
The question is, how can the American public at large be educated to the fact that everything that they watch on TV and read in the Newspaper is propaganda from the Right? Because that’s the case.
The oft-repeated mantra of “the Liberal Media” is, like so much else these days, the exact opposite of the truth. With tiny, rare, rebellious exceptions such as Olbermann, Stewart, and Colbert, the mainstream media is a corporate propaganda tool.
There’s no point in repeatedly noting how unfairly the Left is castigated, how much preferential treatment the Right receives, or how the media ignores real issues for infotainment. That’s what the media is FOR nowadays.
The Left needs to de-legitimize the popular press. I have no idea how, but with control of the press, nothing is stopping the Right from simply lying about the Democratic candidates flaws, and ignoring the McCain’s rage and imbicility. That’s exactly what they’ll do from now til November.
My quibble with your post is a minor one. I feel, strongly, that ALL candidates, ALL journalists who are not compromised, ALL network news executives, ALL local news executives, and ALL talk show producers have to be put on notice that this nonsense simply will not be tolerated by our society any longer.
This is the most blatant institutionalized racism I have seen in my life – and I have lived a good long time.
Call it what it is and let’s end it here.
On the Sunday after the 2000 election ,sitting at an airport gate in Grand Rapids Michigan with CNN showing a video of a small Palm Beach crowd gathered evidently to voice displeasure with the butterfly ballot and the general goings on a Bush supporter spoke up.
“Jews and Ni**ers are taking over” he said quite loudly. He had been speaking quietly with his male friend till then. but he was obviously incensed. Among some low key things I said was “Oh, you must be a Christian?” I got no answer and he didn’t assault me, which I considered a possibility when that blurted out. If I didn’t shame him I suspect for a few moments I did disgrace a few others. Not that it matters.
So if only someone would ask McCain or any Republican to say they don’t want the votes of those kinds of people. Not just fire the offending party or tsk tsk the crap but to come out and denounce it in terms saying I don’t want those votes. He won’t of course, he can’t. It would be a beautyfull thing to behold however if he was trapped in front of a camera presented with such a question. .
I have friends that live in the Uptown area. I loved that part of Minneapolis. When I first moved to Mpls in the 60’s I lived off Franklin Avenue. A bunch of Young ladies and men in an old Mansion. It’s now a parking lot. LOL. Before I moved to TX I lived in Apple Valley. (Close to work) Glad you are starting to get some good weather. I plan on coming back home for a visit this summer. I hope that I will be able to meet up with some of the MN Firepups.
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The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows John McCain’s lead growing against both potential Democratic opponents. McCain currently leads Barack Obama 49% to 42% and Hillary Clinton 51% to 41% margin (see recent daily results). African-American support for Clinton has collapsed, falling to 55% in the general election match-up. Obama, on the other hand, earns solid support from African-American voters but attracts only 36% of white voters in a match-up with McCain.
http://rasmussenreports.com/pu…..cking_poll
It’s not over until she sings.
When a voting machine provider can stop local government from auditing the accuracy of their count by threatening to sue them for breach of contract, it seems clear that Rove’s grasp remains as tight as ever.
This is the first time I heard the quote on tape or video.
“It’s not God bless America, God Damn America for killing innocent people.”
Sounds pretty honest from every vantage point of Jesus teachings to karma baby.
There should be a new political attack strategy named here: “Swift Boat by Proxy”. It was inevitable that a racism-based attack would be launched against Obama in the general election, assuming that he gets the nomination. Racism is too potent a weapon to be dropped by the GOP. One silver lining in the Wright affair is that the racist attacks have come in March, and not in August as the Swift Boat attacks came against Kerry. Obama has time to develop an immunity, and the attacks may get boring to the public,
The Swift Boat pattern is the same in 2008 as it was in 2004. Lies are spread about the candidate: non-valorous conduct by Kerry in Vietnam, partiality to anti-Americanism and lack of patriotism by Obama. The common feature is the 24/7 repetition on TV of the lies and the counter-attacks by the candidate’s defenders. The TV has only one purpose here: not to expose the truth, but to continue the arguments. This attracts audiences and audiences attract advertising dollars. It is a sick system.
Obama said in his speech that we should not have to do this in America, and that there are far more important issues to discuss. The TV shows appealing to the lowest common denominator of political discourse, however, cannot resist the profitable spectacle.
Is it possible that the ugliness might rebound back on the Repugs and mirror the ugliness of their policies? This whole dynamic is the perfect situation in which the good ship Repugnican plows into the iceberg and sinks far below the surface.
The only things they have to offer are blood, toil, tears, sweat, poverty, hunger, barbarism, and hate.
McLame:
“But for me to stand here before all these people and say that I’m going declare divorces invalid because someone feels that they weren’t treated fairly in court, we are getting into a, uh, uh, tar baby of enormous proportions”
It is amazing that the republicans have gone so racist so soon just to shore up their 30% base. This shows they know they have nothing of their own to campaign on.
They haven’t “gone” anywhere.
Rasmussen generally tracks more Republican. I’ve heard polls cited recently that show all 3 current candidates Obama, Clinton, and McCain in the lead. This is, of course, not possible and makes me wonder why polling is so crappy this year.
Will McCain get a pass? Well apparently an opposition specialist in his campaign named Soren Dayton has been distributing a video to various webb sites that links Obama, not only to Wright, but to John Carlos and Tommy Smith back at the 1968 Olympics.
Man this Obama guy really gets around…I thought he was in a fundamentlaist madrassah writing essays about how he was going to infiltrate the highest office in the United States, be sworn into the Presidency on the Koran, and sign an Execiutive Order declaring the US an Islamic Revolutionary State!
Who would’ve known that he was actually providing black gloves to Tommy Smith and John Carlos?
BTW~ Word is that Soren Dayton was brought into the McCain campaign BECAUSE he was familiar with using tech and the blogosphere to spread the fruits of “opposition research”. He apparently was the one that spread video about that showed Romney making “pro-Choice” statements.
But there is a lot about Mr. Dayton that is very mysterious and seemingly inconsistent.
http://www.eyeon08.com/ ">Soren Daytons website
http://techrepublican.com/blog/soren-dayton">Soren Dayton on TechRepublican
Comments about Dayton on another Republican Site
Yes that is what I heard on the clip (nothing inflammatory, although I have been assured that there is). Most media seems to leave out that little qualifier “for killing innocent people,” (like in Vietnam, Iraq etc.) Mind you I am a Clinton supporter. But I cannot stand to have Obama or rev. Wright attacked as “Unamerican” or “Unpatriotic.” It’s too McCarthy. Too Wingnutty. And it’s goddamn prissy to be offended, since I can imagine angry troops coming home and I heard veterans say stronger things and rightfully so.
One thing that is different here is that O’Neill and the rest of those fucks had been lying in wait since 1971. Many of us knew exactly what was coming and that made it even more frustrating that Kerry’s handlers rolled over like they did.
i’m not sure they’ve actually identified the possible voting population.
Those who love to practice racism will find any excuse to vent their hatred. It doesn’t have to be a Rev. Wright, it can be anything. It doesn’t matter. Anything gives them an excuse to spew their vitriol. They hated Obama before the Rev. Wright explosion. Nothing really has changed. It was right there all the time.
That is what needs to be pointed out. No minds have been changed. I received ugly e-mails long before Michele’s comment and Rev. Wright’s comment. He was hated because as a very young child he lived in Java (the statement was Indonesia since they weren’t sophistocated enough to know there are numerous ethnic groups, languages, and 2000 islands that make up the country). Like he had any control where his Mom took him! My daughter lived in Java and Bali because I brought her there as a seven year old.
If anyone leaves the Obama campaign because of this fray, that helps the campaign. At least they know who they can count on and who they can’t. They would have lost those votes at the last minute for some other excuse. They represent the volatile percentage.
I’d be really pissed if any democrat took the righty/McCain side against Rev. Wright and Obama.
Hear, hear!!! Karma is a biatch.
I hope it is, and I will do my best to tie it all around the Republican’s neck.
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Citizen Carlo and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
“Is it possible that the ugliness might rebound back on the Repugs…”
Great question, and of course the answer is “yes” but only if the Democratic Party closes ranks and kills this shit once and for all. This is settin’ up as a perfect storm for the Democrats but only if the party leadership doesn’t suffer from the old “liberal” fear of standin’ up for the truth…the Democratic Party ken euthanize the fascists by simply uniting behind Obama. Or ken at least purge the party of fascist fellow-travelers…let’s put the pressure where it belongs and that’s on our OWN party.
KEEP THE FAITH AND SHOW NO FEAR…IT WON’T WORK AGAIN-NOT THIS TIME!!
Hard to sell “security” to people that feel totally insecure without be attacked and have nothing left to lose.
No matter how untrue the things are that they say, it sticks … I just don’t get it…
I have yet to see much karma payback, unless we’re counting Scooter’s little troubles.
I so agree with you.
Have you dried out yet?
At least he got disbarred.
Only twelve words in total were needed for context.. *sigh*
They demonstrated it with the gay marriage scare, and now that’s not going to work so it’s back to the old chestnut of race.
I think has the potential to be a defining moment for America.
Repugs decide to fight for what? They haven’t accumulated enough money in offshore bank accounts and estates in Paraguay? They’re failures. They need to get over themselves now.
So what’s up with John Warner?
Oh my yes! I walked down to the river this morning and it had dropped over twenty feet overnight! Thanks for asking.. It’s an absolutely beautiful day!
Yeah, the Repubs have thrown in the towel, but the media still assume that they have to drum up ‘conflict’ to get people to pay attention. As near as I can tell, people have about all the stress and conflict they can tolerate.
The knuckle-draggers will gravitate to Atwaterville.
From a cold-eyed, pragmatic view if I were an advertiser trying to reach an audience, I’d steer very clear of Atwaterville. It’s the Pro Boxing of politics.
Millions of people are open to something different.
Yes well he has his literary career and wingnut welfare to fall back on. There’s just not enough karmic payback there.
Exxon Mobil spent $16.9M lobbying federal government 19 Mar 2008 Exxon Mobil Corp., the largest U.S. oil company, spent more than $16.9 million to lobby the federal government in 2007, according to a disclosure form. Besides Congress, Exxon Mobil lobbied the White House, Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, U.S. Trade Representative’s office, the departments of Energy, Defense, Interior, State, Commerce, Homeland Security and more.
Okay, WHY is EXXON Movil loggying the department of Defense and Homeland security? Any ideas?
Some fishy selective editing.
I do too, and after Obama’s Philadelphia speech, I actually think we can weather this, and come out on the other side the better for it.
Lincoln Chaffee and Susan Eisenhower now on Hardball touting their support for Obama! Chaffee said it’s because the war is such a big issue for him.
20 feet!?
i’m just glad you weren’t washed away.
glad to know you made it through ok.
Agreed. And I say that as someone who’s not necessarily an Obama supporter.
Puddles supports Obama?
THUD
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Citizen Millineryman:
“I think this has the potential to be a defining moment for America.”
Right on, brother, right fuckin’ on!! This reminds me of the old talkin’ union blues song “Which Side Are You On”…now there’s no place for people like Mrs. Clinton-McCain to hide and we’ve gotta put the spotlight on her and leave it there.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION – FEAR IS JEST A WORD!!
i’m confused……..i thought that comment by charles black of the mccain campaign posted up-top was after the rev. wright flack………before the new obama youtube incident.
has he or the mccain campaign commented specifically on the youtube slander?
i know, he’s busy, acting like he’s president in london, but thought something would be said about it specific to the youtube…….
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he’s making misstatements again, this time in london, just heard one, (talking about how he understands how england reluctant to be involved in the ’war’, basically said iraq a failure, twice), dumb. dumb. dumb.
spead the meme that teeveenews,is pure infotainment,and to be taken as seriously as the tv show LOST
A package came today from my sister. It is a box of dark chocolate Easter eggs, nice chocolate and just enough to keep me from over indulging. That was very thoughtful of her. I am going to sit out in the sun, sip a cup of tea and have a few chocolates. See you all later.
He had the courage wisdom to finally leave the Repugs after his defeat instead of before. A lesson in lost opportunity.
Doesn’t just support Obama; supports him on national TV!
bonne nuit
I think the most damaging thing for Kerry was the ads by the POW’s who said, “this is how I felt when I heard what Kerry said in 1971″ (paraphrase) His was record was subject to interpretation (it’s hard for people to realize that most Nam Vets considered any medals but the Medal of Honor and Purple Heart as bullshit)but when people talked about how they felt it was much more difficult to counter.
“were the ads”
Okay folks, here’s an interesting poll that may raise some eyebrows.
It’s a
CBS Poll taken just on the eve of the Obama speech, which actually shows that he had started to reverse things over the weekend.
I think that Obama and the campaign has a lot of work to do regarding these issues, but by not running from it and dealing with it now, it completely removes it as a “hit issue” in the Fall. Voters will have to sort out their own racial issues long before that. Of course, whether it carries over to the Pennsylvania or North Carolina primaries is a whole different issue. But the speech allows him space to talk about other issues…such as the revelation about Hillary’s actual promotion of NAFTA back when she was first lady.
I wish there was some polling that occurred regarding the “anti-Catholic” hits that JFK faced in his campaign vs. Nixon…and how long it took for the shift to occur swinging back in his favor. Ultimately people will have to confront whether they would prefer the comfort of their prejudices over that of a continuation of the policies that economically, politically, and socially are destroying the nation.
Did Rev. Wright say this:
“Fondly do we hope–fervently do we pray–that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away. Yet, if God wills that it continue, until all the wealth piled by the bond-man’s two hundred and fifty years of unrequited toil shall be sunk, and until every drop of blood drawn with the lash, shall be paid by another drawn with the sword, as was said three thousand years ago, so still it must be said ‘the judgments of the Lord, are true and righteous altogether.’”
Nope. That was Lincoln in his second inaugural speech, in which he said the horrors of the civil war may have been God’s justice on a nation that committed the offense of slavery (or a natural consequence, if you prefer a non-theological frame). He followed that with a call for malice toward none and charity toward all. I can easily imagine Rev. Wright making the same points fervently. Maybe Republican Lincoln’s words today would be called anti-American and “blaming America”, but he spoke the truth and so does Wright.
Eisenhower says that Obama is Dem’s only chance to get moderate Rethug votes; that Hillary would solidify Rethug base in opposition. Chaffee said Obama has done so much to bring the youth vote out, and he doesn’t know where they’d go if Obama is not the nominee. Thinks it would be such a shame to waste all that enthusiasm. (He works for a University now.)
That’s sure to sway the Alabama part of Pennsylvania!
Mamie?
Amen.
The first part of the speech was good. I am not happy with this:
On the other hand, blacks must understand and acknowledge the roots of white fear in America. There is a legitimate fear of the violence that is too prevalent in our urban areas; and often by experience or at least what people see on the news at night, violence for those white people too often has a black face.
Excuse me but I’ve been a “ghetto dweller”. And watching those “solid citizens” drive through my neighborhood like we all have the plague and that is well . . . I don’t condone that.
But otherwise okay speech.
And I am here to express my complete and utter disgust with the word “unamerican” being thrown at a rev. whose only “crime” from what I can see is using strong language to express his outrage (which is my outrage as well) at American foreign policy.
yep–I saw that too. I’m not quite sure what to make of that…help anyone?
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Citizen Raven:
“…that made it even more frustratin that Kerry’s handlers rolled over like they did.”
Yes…doesn’t it make you wonder about the effect of the domestic spyin’ in the context of all the Democratic Party capitulations since 9/11? I really wonder if the Kerry people were worried about what these bastards had…look at how prepared the fascist propaganda catapulters were with the Spitzer and Wright stuff. I think that the Democrats finally realized that they had to stand up to the blackmail and did it on FISA…they can’t stop now, no matter who gets hurt.
KEEP THE FAITH AND SHOW NO FEAR – NOT THIS TIME!!!
What’s to make? They think the war is important enough of an issue to flip.
He’s saying that any parent would fear those things…that fearing those things is not racist based, because people who live in those neighborhoods fear those things.
God, if it was that well thought out? Seemed to me they just decided on that stupid fucking “reporting for duty” bullshit not realizing what was waiting in the “bushes”. I could be wrong.
Does McCain get a pass on racist video?
Heck yes! Not only that, he comes out looking like like a statesman because he “rebukes” them.
Someone puts out a nasty attack, he gets to say “I’m not running THAT kind of campaign!” The media eats it up. John McCain the pure. Meanwhile, the message gets out.
Ya got mail…! 8-)
… worked for Bush …
He learned something in South Carolina ya think?
The right really pounces with the slime don’t they? And such hypocrites too.
KO will probably jump all over this…he’s almost all we’ve got…
Tucker is still at it.
Why don’t they just kick him out????????????
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Citizen Raven:
I think it was the old liberal fear of tellin’ the truth and losin’ votes…we’ve been victimized by that since at least 1980.
KEEP THE FAITH AND DON’T BE AFRAID OF THE OBVIUOS-FEAR IS JEST A WORD AND IT WON’T WORK – NOT THIS TIME!!!
We shall see, KO time…!
Whoa, Obama’s passport file breached…per KO…developing.
She’s dead! It’s Susan Eisenhower. Ike’s granddaughter.
BREAKING NEWS: MSNBC’s Countdown–
Obama’s passport file breached, says State Dept. More to come.
KO Bam!!!! Right outta the gate!!!
surprise!
KO: Someone unlawfully accessing Obama’s passport files? I did’nt get all that.
Good…he’s got the tape, he’s got the Halloween/Purim thingy…he must have been reading FDL again!
Ha, ha, we’re all KO-bots!
Sounds like the establishment getting its hand caught in the violating privacy rights of important enemy candidate cookie jar…….
I swear he often reports the FDL crew’s posts…
Heh, heh, heh!
Dick Cheney, “So?”
My, my, is Bayh acting like the top of Clinton’s short list today or what?
What kind of information is in passport files?
My point exactly, and this white guy thinks it would be a real treat to be in church for a Wright sermon.
It was a joke.
Repug talking points, like when Clinton visited Soviet Union as young man, etc.
This is what happens when you don’t slap their hands for other offenses! Apparently two contract employees were fired and one other employee was involved in some way for accessing Obama’s passport file without any good reason to do so in contrast to the privacy laws.
Passport infringement took place in January, 2008. “It could be a democratic rival, for all we know,” per Howard Fineman. Oh, yeah, and Dems would likely have all kind of access.
It is possible. There are many Clinton leftovers in the State Department’s lower levels, they are career employees.
Although I think the percentages heavily favor a Bush crime, by 20 to 1.
Daddy Bush had the same exact thing happen concerning Bill Clinton in 1991.
Sounds like Condoleeza’s got some ’splaining to do. :)
Twenty years of hate radio. Seven years of MSM towing the administration.
Hellyeah he’s going to get a pass. And they’ll go on screwing democrats to the wall, ceassesly.
Should be kind of obvious by now.
You’re fucked, raped and mangled…
Sure….
She’ll hope right on it after she throws the pic the Obama campaign is circulating showing Bill shaking hands with Rev. Wright in the trash.
Which come to think of it seems to be where Senator SnakeOil is headed.
I did not see Obama trying to shore up anyone in the Dem Party…besides himself…
Lamont….too busy…
Burner….why bother….
Pera….could not make it…..
If this guy is a Democrat maybe goin’ Green is a real option.
OK, enterprising fdlakers who are good with such things – can we get a viral clip going with McCain, Hagee, Falwell, etc? I am especially interested in this given the question in this clip about a leader denouncing those who hate.