Sometimes, the intersection of pudding and pie can produce some interesting results.
Take this from Digby, on the essay that Rick Perlstein did in LATimes. And the follow-up from Tristero on the same subject. Anyone who doesn’t understand the enormous problem we all have dealing with irresponsible, factually inaccurate and off-putting media narratives needs to take some time to read all of this and think about it.
Add to it this from Wolcott, which ends with a classic:
With their lipless smiles and lidless eyes, conservative connivers don’t even bother to disguise their duplicity, so proud and gleeful are they of their little tricks. And why shouldn’t they be, when so many liberal bloggers and pundits are ready to fall for them?
It isn’t enough to just watch and read media reports — you have to also contemplate the reasons and perspectives behind them. And the real reason of all those shiny objects get deployed in the first place…and who really benefits from them. Diversionary tactics with your pudding and pie, anyone?
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When does our side get to make up the Qs?
Hmm! Pudding! I like chocolate myself.
With just a dab of whip cream – all that hating of America makes me hungry.
vote for pie in 08!
If the pudding is hot then a scoop of vanilla ice cream on top is great too!
Groan.
I just ate a Garbage Burger .
Ham, Bacon, a fried egg, the works.
That pie would go nicely for dessert though…….
Yes, that’s right – the mainstream media is owned by the same corporations which have corrupted our political system. The mainstream media is a willing propaganda arm of the same forces of fascism that have pillaged the national treasury and turned government into an instrument of corporate enablement.
The MSM will continue to foster Democratic schisms, both to aggravate the divisions and also to distract from the superabundance of Republican and right-wing atrocities. After the Democrats settle on a single candidate, the MSM will simply lie about that candidate, without compunction or hesitation, in order to destroy the candidate’s public image (and in this case I’m not predicting, I’m simply remembering the 2004 election.)
We need to keep in mind that none of the information in the mainstream propaganda media can be relied upon as being true; that the media is deliberately presenting lies and unfair characterizations; and that journalistic professionalism is incompatible with those goals and is not part of the news you’ll see or hear on ABC, NPR, Fox, CBS, NBC, or any other mainstream media outlet.
The media is owned by the corporations, and the corporations want a continuance of the Republican policies that have been so profitable for so long.
Only by clearly acknowledging that the mainstream media is not impartial and is deliberately unprofessional and unfair can we begin to work to rectify the situation.
So CHS, why did you not post this on pi-day, 3-14?
Pi-day was probably the inspiration for this post. It’s been cooking since then.
The Wolcott piece is just insulting. Like a lot of people, I voted for Obama because Hillary Clinton voted for the war and has never renounced it, while Obama has affiliated himself with a foreign policy team marked by skepticism, experience, and, above all, hostility to the neocon project. As the campaign has gone on, I’ve only been strengthened in my conviction that Obama is more qualified than Clinton, particularly yesterday.
I was never under any illusion that Clinton would “mobilize” the troglodytes who listen to Rush Limbaugh more than any other Democrat, and certainly not more than a black man.
So Wolcott is knocking down a straw man, and he seems to have bought into a Clintonian (and right wing; they’re not mutually exclusive) notion that Obama’s voters are crazed teenagers, and therefore insubstantial and silly.
We can’t go around caring what the Republican tactics are; they’re going to train their guns alternately on Clinton and Obama, depending on the media cycle. The idea that I should be warned off Obama because the right puffed him up at the start is ludicrous, given that they’re now portraying him as Malcolm X.
Wolcott is very disappointing here, and missing the big picture out of some parochial preference for Clinton: it’s the war, stupid.
Well said, Albatross. And I will add that it would help if we nominate a candidate who will stand up for him/herself. Gore and Kerry were human doormats, and the corporate media were happy to walk all over them.
“In 2001, John McCain voted against President Bush’s tax cuts, noting that they were skewed toward the wealthy. In a Senate floor statement, McCain explained that he could not “in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us, at the expense of middle class Americans who most need tax relief.”
But now, John McCain supports making the Bush tax cuts permanent rather than allowing them to expire, as they are scheduled to do under current law. Now, John McCain runs around saying things like, “The Democrats have already … told us they will increase our taxes.”
So, what changed in McCain’s life between 2001 and now to make him reverse his mind on this?
OT, but I want to float this out, because I haven’t read anybody ask: How much longer before John Edwards endorses Obama?
I embed the assumption that he will based on Obama’s speech yesterday, where he so eloquently echoed Edwards’ Two Americas message (how white people have been suffering economically under this regime, and their grievances are both real and legitimate).
Of course, this just assumes that Edwards does not already have some political favors to call in that override principle and ideology. One can hope that is not the case.
Who might you suggest?
Got bitten by the prezit bug.
If we stop watching the so called “news” programs, their nielsen’s will dry up and they will become the victim of entropy. They only way you can get a news show to go away is to not watch it. It is a business. They got rid of tucky and replaced him with a schmuck, but even that isn’t going to get any viewers if they keep trotting out old pat and tucky until their contracts run out.
Or maybe started accepting a bunch of lobbying favors or something like that…
Well, I wanted Edwards, but it seems to me either one of the current candidates can hit back. Obama sounded pretty good the other night, and everyone knows Hillary can hit back.
Right, the Firepups quit watching and the media complex will collapse.
I got my eye on you!
Josh Marshall has a good video up on why McCain is unfit to serve. Makes points you’ll never see in the corp media.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/184346.php
I had heard that Edwards is to endorse Hill. Don’t know for sure, of course. I also just heard Hannity all over Obama; spewing filth. Is it more damaging or Merely revolting? I have thought all along that just the power of the Obama candidacy has been healing. The Hannity/INgraham pushback and more, I guess, will just show us how low we can go.
There’s a very funny picture at Huff of McCain looking as if he is scared to death in a copter. Maybe it isn’t so romantic over there after all.
I agree but I don’t unduly blame Gore and Kerry. They certainly have their responsibilities in the matter of their elections, but they were also embedded in the superstructure of the Democratic Party process. The Democratic Party is in turn embedded in the self-perpetuating D.C. Beltway culture. That culture is so busy maintaining its privileged status quo that it doesn’t encourage boat-rocking measures, like challenging election results.
They ARE responsible, but along with them our entire political aristocracy is responsible, because when the neocons came along (who have no compunctions whatsoever about rocking the boat, swamping it, drowning those inside, and then blaming them for being unable to swim) the Beltway culture was too ossified to respond.
Even MORE pitiful is the Republican Party. No, really. Because that party has allowed its core principles of constitutional, fiscal, and social conservatism to be completely co-opted by the neocons and turned to their radical ends. The Democrats, while spineless, ossified, and ineffective, still claim to a certain base of principles – not the lest of which is the Rule of Law, checks and balances, and the primacy of the Constitution. The Republicans don’t even have that, and are simply in power for the sake of being in power.
I’m going to give Obama another chance. I think both he and Hillary are way better than anything the Pukes can cough up for us!
Wheel in the sky keeps on turnin’
I don’t know where I’ll be tomorrow
Wheel in the sky keeps on turnin’
Two perhaps telling verbal slips, in two days, on progressive (Air America) and not-so-progressive (NPR) radio: Last night, Rachel Maddow referred to “President Obama” (she immediately corrected to “Senator”). This morning the female host of one of NPR’s morning shows let slip with “Pres-” before recovering with “Senator Obama”.
I think these may be indicators that perhaps Obama’s speech is making some very powerful and deep perceptual shifts in our collective psyche, and may have much more impact on the nomination (and possibly election) outcome than we can know.
Oh great, McCan’t just pissed off the Palestinians …
Three days in a row he has said that thing about Iran training Al Qaeda – three times ! What did he say about the Palestinians?
Yes. If people watch and listen to Obama, then the right-wing media, it becomes much more clear who has the hate agenda. It is a good thing to happen.
I’m more interested in deep perceptual shifts in the collective psyche of Pennsylvanians.
I would take out the “simply.” From what I hear, power is powerful & addictive. And then there’s the financial rape of the country that you left out.
I think your description of Ds is accurate & succinct.
The MSM might not allow a dem to stand up. They will open the flood gates to the swift boaters to demonize a populist and especially one who points the finger of accountability at the media.
Obi needs to tread gently here or they will skewer him because he exposes their complicity in the right win take over of the country.
It’s not just W, or just the corporation, or just the MSM, or just the MIC, it IS A VAST RIGHT WING attempt to own America and control the world for the oligarchy.
McCain Backs Israeli Reprisals in Gaza
he evidently missed a meeting with one of them
great video, thanks!
Wow…it’s almost like you’ve been reading ABC News.
But the MSM will trumpet the horse race and how McSenile is ahead and then there will be the dem battle to self destruct and finally the idiotic conventions and then the race to the election.
It’s all money for the MSM. Don’t expect too many in depth discussions of issues. Obi tried to law out the RACE problem in this country and it is already the forgotten news cycle. Now it’s the fith anniversary of the occupation and attack. But where is the real take down of the horror of that war? What do we get… more Bush and Cheney lies. And Dana Perino telling us politics is alive and well in Iraq.
We have a lot of problems and the MSM is only one of them.
and never ,never never NEVER forget General Electric is the biggest DEFENSE contractor in the biz…they hate Obama and find all kinds of creeps(Pat B) and Bs Black preachers to take him down…cantstop the DEATH MACHINE
Yes, first things first. Pennsylvania – the Bellwether State.
Though the point has been made that the hearts and minds (and votes) of many superdelegates are being won.
Agree 100%! There are no legitmate members of the traditional 4th Estate in the MSM. From news readers, to pundits, to editors they have all been coopted to serve their corporate masters. It’s nothing more than self-interest. Until the MSM is exposed for the shills that they are for Republican/corporate interests the nation will remain in peril.
I’m now sure that Obama can turn their own bullshit tactics against them.
It will seem like 3rd degree political jujitsu, but it will merely be the seemingly simple act of repeatedly speaking the truth with a deft hand, confidence and speed.
Something we desperately lacked in 2000 and 2004.
Obama responds to Moonbat Crazy McCain. Obviously, promoting a hundred year war, McCain wants to kill them all, and let God sort them out.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/….._0319.html
We were hearing that a lot a while back, and then it didn’t happen. Considering that a bunch of Edwards delegates in Iowa went over to Obama and none to Clinton, I can’t see that endorsing Clinton would be anything other than embarrassing at this point, since I don’t think he could deliver anything in that direction.
I think he’s made the right choice, which is that an endorsement was never going to have a lot of influence, and it’s better for his causes to wait and strongly support the nominee than to take a gamble on picking the winner.
And what’s with Debbie (ain’t that a cute congress critter name(Wasserman-Schultz) not supporting the dems who want to change the right wing Dade cty Rs Diaz Bolert bros and Ross-Letenin? She won’t support the dem challengers because they are running against her friends.
Her dem colors are showing rather thin ain’t they?
just read they pay Maria Shriver millions of dollars to NOT show up,and complete her contract…..pigs at the trough…you have no idea how much is passed around,while AVERAGE Americans are hurting badly
Should Obama receive the nomination the MSM will turn on a dime and let loose the hounds. Mr. Obama is the most dangerous man in America for those who want nothing more than to preserve the status quo. Aside from the Republican Party the MSM wants to preserve that status quo to insure their pampered, priviledged and lucrative positions as part of the ruling elite.
Nope, I disagree. This is a time for courage. No treading gently,. Speaking deep truth while refusing to demonize or be accept being demonized is what I’ve seen Obama doing. About time we Dems had more of that. Much, much more.
Yeah, Wolcott is great on everything except the primary race. An ironic above-it-all tone doesn’t work when you’re in the tank for a candidate.
I keep meaning to write him a gentle note asking him to please just stop.
word!.…gota keep the blood and guts spewing
GE – Immelt is quite a bit different than Welch. In a good way.
Defense contractor – half of GE’s revenues come from the Capital side the other main contributor is the Infrastructure business. Their customers are countries.
Go ahead. Flame away.
Nancy and Harry have taken claim the Rule of Law, checks and balances, and the primacy of the Constitution off the table.
yup and he has a perfect tempermant to do this……..smooth as silk
Im not,…then what is the reason for the EXTREME vitriol on BHO?
Yep. Here’s an example.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/….._0319.html
Why are Americans so ignorant of what is being done to them?
Why are so few up in arms about what has gone down since the Rs stole the elections since 2000?
We live in Brave New World of propaganda.. a sea of lies.
The rich are stealing from us and we get up and go to work like nothing’s happened.. glad to have a job.
We are so f*cked. And being F*cked daily.
Except for the matter of 100 or so delegates . . .
i absolutely,love the idea of a Short Ride ,and McVain,3 AM ad……hahahaha,Lewis Black could do it
I agree we need to fight back. But I think it will be counter productive because the more punches he lands the less news of them will be reported and the more they will Howard Deam Scream him.
yeah, i can only imagine…
A History Professor’s Case for Obama
and that is why he is CALM as a CLAM…..i love it!!!!
I think the Rs are feeling that they are going down and will pull out all stops. When that fails they will use the economy as an emergency to call off the elections.
ya know McVain might be an OLD man….But BHO is an old soul,i prefer the latter
That’s just the way corporate interests, the Republican Party and the MSM want the electorate. Dumbed down and distracted with bright shiny objects. Should people end up on bread lines the MSM will convince the populace they shouldb chanting while on line “We’re number one!”
and then there is this sad fact
http://www.ohio.com/news/break_news/16779911.html
I dunno. I stopped watching the news at least a dozen years ago for my health (heart condition) but it hasn’t done any good (except for my heart). I think the news is mostly watched by the people who used to tune into the soaps. They do serious market research. They know their audience, and it isn’t us.
it will extremely hard to buck the corporate media
Republicans will stop at nothing to continue their stranglehold on the reins of power. They always have a reserve of well armed right wing nuts that can be manipulated and goaded into doing whatever is necessary.
OT, but must share.
Earlier today, a lecture at AEI by Lawrence M. Krauss,* a very prominent physicist and “public intellectual” was replayed on CSPAN2. It was very clear they didn’t like his message about the value of science, the role it should play in helping to inform public policy. He illustrated his lecture with examples such as “abstinence only” education, “star wars,” and global warming. The Qs, while polite, made clear how unhappy they were with him.
I sent him a congratulatory email, pointing out that he was challenging their very raison d’etre, that their policies should be evaluated by evidence, and in that sense the conflict was MUCH larger than that between science & religion.
Am proud to report that I got a prompt, agreeable, and funny return email. He said that AEI thought that he didn’t treat them with enough intellectual dignity (bwahahahaha), but that he’s a masochist–he also goes on Fox news.
ya know we really do have a ruling class
I read somewhere (maybe Kurtz) a while ago that Tweety makes about 5 million a year. Five million dollars per year!
So, since The Great Pumpkin Head is his boss, he’s got to make more, lots more.
No way you speak truth to power when ‘power’ is paying you so well!
Nah, gotta respectfully disagree. If a Democrat wins, the R’s will go on offense, obstruct any attempt to improve things, smear and destroy the reputation of the D President, and try to stage a massive takeover in 2012. No need for that other stuff, which would instantly unify the opposition, when they can have it handed to them in 4 years, if they play it right.
And if McCain’t wins? The most internally-unpopular Republican of them all? They will sweep him aside without a care.
Or so it seems to me.
“g”
Meant to include Krauss’s wiki in my 71
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/….._0319.html
Of course. Another great myth that perpetuates a corrupt and unjust system is that America is a classless society.
SanderO, don’t forget the fear card that plays night and day on just about every channel. Who watches documentaries about a different prison every night on msnbc? Ex cons that miss the place? No they’re scaring grandma and grandpa into voting for the party that hasn’t allowed another attack.
Just the names of teevee programs are scary. Bones, Fear factor, survivor,all sorts of crime scene shows and the list goes on and on.
Words are powerful and just a glance at the on screen guide will give folks the heebie jeebies. imho
Not a matter of fighting back or landing punches, so much as finally a real test, on the highest level of political discourse, of power in the way Gandhi or MLK, Jr. would have wielded it in our political arena.
Obama’s positive stance is absolutely necessary at this time.
hellooooo Glenn efffing Beck makes $10,000,000.00,Oreally and Rushbo20
Shoot, making way too many mistakes today. Must be more careful. Here is Krauss’s wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Krauss
Interesting point. I never watch that stuff, so I had completely missed the theme you point out.
Krauss is a very good spokesman for the scientific community. But it really infuriates me that someone of that caliber has to waste a substantial amount of time pushing back against the flat-earthers.
the article i linked said
2 PERSONS PER DAY die in Ohio do to lack of Health insurance
WTF is up with that?!
MSNBC can’t find ‘Lucy’ or ‘Sanford and Son’ reruns like everybody else?
All this speculation on whether it is Clinton or Obama that the R’s really fear & what their underlying strategy is makes my head ache. I wonder if they actually have a a firm plan & if they did, how have they been able to keep it from seeping out somewhere. Maybe their operating tactic is to just react to what’s going on at the moment with the Dem race & then send out their directions to the O’Reilly’s, Novaks & Limbaughs. They are practiced at stealing loads of $ & skullduggery but they also don’t completely hide everything, they really are just so darn proud of themselves.
I’ve read & read as much as I can find on the media giving doddering McCain so much TLC & I still don’t get it. Especially now with the markets so shitty, they must be taking some financial hits. McCain doesn’t have any more of a clue about the economy than junior so I don’t understand why they still wrap him in cotton.
I hate, despise, loathe politics.
It’s not a waste of his time if you think about the consequences if no one of his calibre pushes back against the flat earthers. I think it’s the most valuable thing he can do with his time, since the alternative is that they take over, which the have already done.
somebody on Kos said….fear,and war,make life a less than happy and healthy situation,for it kills off all our better instincts and hits our fight or flight mechanism
I just wish making a speech and writing a book were as important as you all want to believe. I was not impressed at his speech. It was diversionary, not healing. In what way did it heal anything? Merely acknowleging a problem is not a cure. I don’t even believe his grandmother’s story and how it relates to the out of control behavior his pastor who drives a Porsche has displayed. Voluntarily deciding to associate yourself with an over the top Afro centric mega-church is not synonomous with a Grandmother who was fearful of a bum who was black. Obama tries to lay claim to the judgement thing. Well, I think his judgement has been shown to be a bit suspect. I would love to believe but speeches are a dime a dozen. Maybe it seems like a great speech. But that is all it is. If Bush makes a great speech does anything change? Please, let’s maintain a sense of honesty and not get caught up in a naivete that is embarassing.
see 88 please
Well, it’s even more cunning than that. By demonizing Socialism, the entire concept of “class” has been made taboo. You ARE allowed to talk about the Middle Class, but that’s only because the word “bourgeoise” was too, well, Socialist.
What you’re NEVER allowed to talk about is the Ruling Class, the Aristocracy, or the Upper Classes. Use of those terms elicits deligitimizing accusations of “Class war!” and “Socialist!”
So in a very 1984-style, the words to describe what they’re doing to us have been removed from the dictionary. The Working Class has been losing the Class War for nearly thirty years, but we’re not allowed to talk about the Class War.
Tyler Durden and George Orwell would both understand.
Just scan the on screen channel guide for words that might upset. It’s uncanny how many you find and they are there every day. Also graphic crime scene shots, but the prison shows are non stop violence and scary prisoners. I can’t count how many Manson docs I’ve seen in the last year.
Oh boy, why did I turn on the TV just now? MSNBC just had a snippet of Obama nailing McInsane on his misstatements and the “republican strategist” kept talking over the woman. The host did nothing of course to take control of the situation.
Hey, it’s just human error…people love McCain for his straight talk…blah blah blah. The guy literally stammered when he WASN’T talking over the woman because then he had to try and say something substantive. It was sooooo obnoxious. IOKIYAR noise machine to drown out the other person. Just static.
They have multiple plans for either D. As usual, the answer is not either/or, but both, and not a “plan,” but planS. All the discussion makes my head ache too. It’s just going to happen the way it will happen, & we’ll have to deal with it when it does.
this looks like good news on think progress right now
words have meaning when that person has lived the words…he has worked for many years with the UNFORTUNATES,bet ya didnt know that
Thanks. I forgot about Beck. 10 million/yr and no ratings.
Talk about yer wingnut welfare.
And your basis for believing this is . . . what? Please write more about why.
No kidding. One sounds like a wild-ass crazy if one utters even a single sentence about some higher human instinct.
really uplifting heh?”g”
eCAHNomics: Yeah, I know. But I meant that he shouldn’t have to spend time talking to the ignorant country bumpkins. And I wouldn’t say they’re already taken over– whenever they are close to taking over a school district the adults have to come in and stop them. Even in Kansas, when they took over the school board the people rose up and ran them out.
1. Bush has never made a great speech.
2. Bush will never change anything.
3. Bush will not even acknowledge problems, much less address them.
4. Speeches are indicative of the mental prowess of the person writing and delivering them.
5. Yes, speeches must be backed up with action. Barack turned down a career on Wall Street to serve his community in Illinois.
6. IMO, Barack Obama can do MORE than give a speech. Let’s not minimize his abilities.
they will pay anything to anyone to spew stuff to preserve the status quo imo…any amount
They are waging and winning the class war.
Wow. I had no idea. But if you don’t mind, I’ll not do the scan & just take your word for it. I’m depressed enough already.
very well said
I was speaking more broadly than just the science curriculum. They have taken over this nation’s economic & foreign policy.
And just how has Obama lived all his words. I just don’t buy it. He is way too brilliant to be so caught up in this church. He is using it to fulfill his ambitions of fulfilling the dreams of his father. He desparetly wants to be president…..but to what end? He seems to be what he accuses Hillary of. Will do anything…..
I’m a part time wedding videographer and know that editing is also a powerful tool. Think of the rapid fire cuts in music videos. No more than a second or two between some scenes and it’s meant to disturb.
Good Afternoon Christy and Firedogs,
this is the topic at chez cbl – random thoughts
were there even a mildly responsive FCC, we could flood their offices and public hearings
were there a functioning FEC someone could explain to us unwashed masses just what GE, Newscorp, and Time Warner, etc are doing making max allowable donations to the Republic party while claiming to be bringing us the news
I know that in the past, groups much smaller than the community here have brought corporate giants like Proctor and Gamble to their knees with the mere threat of boycott
educating the non blogging public about this is the real magilla and that is waay above this dfh’s paygrade – I believe Mr Obama has a shot at it should he clinch, but there are other ways to inject ideas in to the CW – a small example – think of tuning in to Family Guy some night and seeing Russert’s gotcha gambit lampooned –
finally, in my perfect world instead of taking on the Republics in this election cycle, MoveOn targets this bs
ecahn@94:
I’m just hoping that I will see things start turning around to sanity before I’m in my 80’s. What worries me the most is the future for my kids & hoped for grandkids.
riiiight.
see 102 or better yet READ his book….oak?
Hi cbl2
In addition, I think Obama is smart enough not to be threatened by the presence of other smart people who can work together to solve these problems vs. hire yes men to embrace bush/cheney war profiteering…
I don’t worry about my kid’s future. He’s a wingnut & deserves everything he will get. As he’s 26 with no girlfriend, I doubt I’ll ever have grandkids, which suits me just fine as I want no progency in the world as it will be. Main reason I am happy to have senior citizen status. Don’t want to live in that world myself.
Huh. Maybe the “ignorant country bumpkins” you refer to aren’t so ignorant after all.
Read his “hope” book. Found it glib & uninformative.
Oh yeah, Julia’s upstairs…
not me,but i liked Horton heres a who
*g*
I thought, after I typed that, that it could be a generational thing. I’m a year or two ahead of the boomers, and we take life very seriously & dig into problems (at least those of my generation who I resonate with). That is reinforced by my career experience as a woman on Wall St. I just don’t get the have hope & let’s all work on it together. That’s not the world I have lived in for 63 years.
I am not clear what you are saying about intelligence and church involvement. Both Hill and Bill are very intelligent and have been involved actively in church life; Hill credits that background with much of her life choices. It is not unusual to be tied to a minister of 20 years, someone who performed marriage and baptism.
Rachel Maddow delivered an interesting factoid on her program tonight, gleaned from Ben Smith’s Politico blog; seems that he was comparing the view count of YouTube files, like Senator Obama’s “More Perfect Union” speech (now upwards of 1.6 million views) with the offensive sermon clips of Rev. Wright, which has perhaps 1/3 that number of views. Rachel calls it bullying, that Dems are respoding to a ginned-up perception, and that the method is a staple in the Republican playbook of things that turn Dems into quivering puddles of nevermind, that it’s been used wwith security, and the war, and the Constitution, and FISA, it’s the threat that an unholy shitstorm is just about to break on the Democrat’s head, and we could do a lot worse than take a good look at those numbers and take a lesson..
BTW, I was for Edwards, and it took me a long long time to shift into the Obama camp; what swung it for me was common sense about coattails and the chance to expand the party in the future with so many young’ns coming out for him. My sister and her hubby (a Persian) were split between Hill and the big O, but the speech yesterday flipped my sister, totally flipped her. You see, she and I could write a book on the cringeworthy things our parents say, and it’s a priceless opportunity in front of us.