One day after Joe Lieberman corrected him in public for once again stating his oft-repeated false claim that that Iran, a majority Shiite country, was supplying the mostly Sunni militant group, al-Qaeda, McCain unbelieveably repeated the false claim again:
For the third time in two days, the Arizona Republican has pushed the definitively false statement that the terrorist group Al-Qaeda was getting assistance from Iran, even though he was publicly ridiculed for the same false assertion on Tuesday.
This time, in a statement from his campaign honoring the fifth year anniversary of the war, McCain wrote:
"Today in Iraq, America and our allies stand on the precipice of winning a major victory against radical Islamic extremism. The security gains over the past year have been dramatic and undeniable. Al Qaeda and Shia extremists -- with support from external powers such as Iran -- are on the run but not defeated."
On Tuesday, the senator, appearing in Israel, made a nearly identical assertion that al-Qaeda was leaving Iraq to retool and regroup in Iran.
[...]
Sen. Joseph Lieberman, who was accompanying McCain on the trip, was forced to lean over and whisper in McCain's ear that it was Shiite extremists, not Sunni al-Qaeda, that was going to predominantly Shiite Iran.
So he's still repeating a spiel he knows -- and has been told, in public yet -- is wrong.
There are three possible explanations:
1) He is knowingly and deliberately telling an untruth -- that's known as lying, for you rib-stuffed members of the press corps who have trouble seeing the many flaws in Mister Not-So-Straight-Talk.
2) He is dumber than paint and/or has debilitatingly severe memory-loss issues to go with his known anger-management problem.
3) Both of the above.
Honestly, that last one seems to fit best the known facts. Which makes it all the more amazing -- and sickening -- to see America's press corps covering for him.
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both
PW!
3. both
Raygun,Junior and McLame ….alll verrrrrrry neuron challenged
3)
but Merkins keep electing the codpieces as opposed to the bookworms
Dumber than the Bush Boys.
Aloha, PW! I can never get enough of that photo…! ;-)
Both! Definitely!
They’re both prereqs for Puke candidates.
Lordy.
Now wait a minute…
I vote for senile.
Now Suzanne, I’m counting on y’all for some roots music tonight. :-D
The hug is bad enough, but McCain’s eyes are closed and he’s smiling. Blegh
Yep, without a doubt!
1…no, 2…..no, 1….wait let me think….
Senile and dishonest.
told ya last nite, i’m back thursday. tonight is eureka springs’ nite for late late nite.
Can’t get enough of that Aqua Velva…!
He is just doing what Cheney told him.
Remember Stupie’s quote about how he keeps repeating things over and over until it becomes believable?
Same process here. They are still using Red 47, Red 47, out of Rove’s playbook.
Hey Phoenix Woman!
I think he’s trying to catapult the propaganda. Plus he is not, as someone on Tweety’s show told us, “a detail man,” so these minor differences don’t really matter to him. Shi’ite, Sunni, Iran, al Qaeda, pfft, who cares?
Plus he’s a stupid dumbhead liar.
Might I suggest that McCain is dishonest, spinning it as forgetfulness ?
Where is the “other” Cindy???
Oh, where oh where, is the other Cindy?
Oh, where oh where can she be??
She’s dis–appeared from from the front of the news,
It’s totally unfair that she flee,
We’re voting for King, in a world based on bling,
Oh, where, oh where can she be…
And no one knows, where the world she could be…
It’s to-tally nothing to me,
Oh no one could know where she sings or to whom..
Oh where, oh where, has she gone,
Oh where, oh where could other Cindy have gone,
Oh, where could my un-Cindy be?
Can we please get over the democratic nomination so we can take this idiot on full boar?
I’ve said before that McCain’s negatives need to jump. So, when his name is mentioned, I shake my head and say “too dirty, think Spitzer, everything he rails against, he’s guilty of”. Now, I’m going to have to add “and besides, he’s dumber than Bush”
he lurvessssssssss catapulting the propaganda,remember?
Although I guess it is possible. I once had a cat named Ned who actually had a negative I.Q. You see, a rock, with an I.Q of 0, won’t try to avoid traffic and it won’t try to jump in front of traffic. But I once watched Ned crossing a one way street– the whole street was empty, so he waited for a bunch of cars to come and he ran out in front of them.
So he had a negative I.Q. like John McCain.
*Spew*
Good evening PW, fine post once again.
Alzheimer explains the agressiveness and the memory loss and overall confusion.
Deception, lies, dishonesty the rest.
oopsie,i read your mind”g”
You may be right. I don’t know why anyone would repeat a lie 3 or 4 times when it’s already made the news - but I’m not running for prez.
Suz gets a night off! Enjoy.
stupid liar
Per Atrios short answers:
Yes
I totally f’d up the end…oh well..LOL
I remember the process, I just couldn’t remeber how he phrased it.
I’m too beat to Google anything tonight.
dumber than a sack of wet hammers
wow, can I ever mangle english tonight…
NYT’s Editorial
And no, Ned didn’t get killed– he was too dumb to die.
It’s kind of like when you’re drunk, you’re too loose to get hurt. Well, if you have a negative I.Q. nothing can hurt you.
Dumber than a short stick with shit on it.
Man-love McVain… our man on the ground in Mess O’Potamia. Flak Jacket and Aricept not included
i do late late nite tue, thur, sat and alternating sun. es does the mon, wed, fri and alternating sun.
i have not taken a night off since my birthday in october. i am, however, taking off sun and mon so consider this your invitation to pick on be nice to the substitute.
Bush is smarter than Ned the Cat or dumber than a rock?
Yes…pleeeeeeeze
dayamit, my strike though struck out…
keeping the corporate media honest is a full time,exhausting job”g”
Unfortunately for McStain, he isn’t going to get a pass on this shit. We are out for blood this time.
Both– I think he falls between there somewhere.
dumber than a tumbleweed
No spoiler, but remember to watch TDS … Jon is even more hopped up than usual …
thanks pet - will do
ill never understand why Cindy wanted his OLD ,MARRIED ass anyway?
Excellent. I’m sure people throughout the world read the NYT, same as we read the BBC. It’s good to know that the world doesn’t think we’re all agreeing with Bush/Cheney.
Seems they’re trying to give Obama another label..anti-semite. Need to make sure he loses the Jewish vote. I’m so freeking tired of this bullshit. What has he ever done to deserve that label?
Musta missed that, apologies. :)
sorry if that sounded abrupt - was doing a bunch o stuff. no problem, just wanted ya to know that it is his nite
We’ll behave properly. (Imagine the wrath if we didn’t) *g*
Have a nice, well-deserved break, Suz.
Yowza!
Don’t get upset by what Sean Hannity says or anything else on Fox News. We can’t control it. It wouldn’t matter if Obama, Clinton or Edwards was the nominee. They will lie and fling poo every day. 2008 is much different than 2004. People now have a much greater chance to get information from sources other than the TV.
Totally escapes me too. It’s not like she was marrying him for the money. I do not understand this. Maybe it was an arranged marriage by her parents?
thanks, loohoo
Well they have to tell some lie about him. He’s not prejudiced against anyone so they have to say he’s prejudiced.
Hey Specter!! How’s good d’ya feel to have healthcare???
not only is HE dumb, he thinks we are too.
Another one gone:
http://www.nydailynews.com/blo.....s-out.html
Does anyone know if Echan had one of her questions asked on WNYC today?
Magic bullet Specter…..
Everything is fine..move along……..
Two Words for McVain, Baby…
Keating Five
headed to the lucrative field of lobbying, or he wants to spend more time with his family
Specter having health problems?
The powder is bone dry.
That ought to cause the temper explosion we’re looking for. Would make me smile.
Yeah, and what’s her name…missing in action…
Why is the lobbylady missing????
Excellent!
cancer
is there an indictment in his future?
I think we should stop letting prominent Repugs off the hook so easily. So Reagan was senile? Junior was impaired? McCain is losing it? No, I vote for Answer No. 1–they were/are all lying, and using their various alleged forms of “stupidity” to distract us from the truth that they are lying.
Here are the questions:
http://www.wnyc.org/shows/lopa.....ents/95308
Loo Hoo et al
Being technically challenged, it took me awhile to figure out how to get my house pics up on flikr, but here they are
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22233394@N05/?saved=1
Sorry to be OT .. but has anyone seen this:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03.....9dowd.html
Surely it is MoDo’s finest hour. ;-) Being p’wned by Gene Kelly’s widow.
oy so she is dumber than he….oy
It’s a Reynolds wrap.
-G
vicki i-something. also known as the other cindy for her resemblance to the current mrs.
Why do they keep coming up with “new, lowest” approval ratings on Bush that are not the lowest?
Am I crazy, or didn’t we see 29% about one month ago?
Yep. A beauty.
Confidence is high that she’ll be back to bashing Dems soon enough.
And McCain continues to postpone disclosing his medical reports.
“Maureen Dowd wonders how it is possible that George W. Bush can continue to put a positive spin on various dismal facts associated with his administration.
The answer is simple: from the beginning of his tenure, he was, continues to be and always will be the most incompetent president in modern American history.”
Well, yeah..D’oh.
How cool.
That looks wayyy old!
second
Tin foil hat time.
from the beginning of his tenure, he was, continues to be and always will be the most incompetent president in modern American history.
wow, doesn’t THAT say it all
From the Raw Story:Maher praises Obama speech, slams McCain on war
1817
Priceless, I tells ya…! ;-)
Phoenix Woman!!!
oh for f*ck’s sake, not that pic agin…
Jeebus!!!
Gene Kelly one of a kind,chimpie the missing link
Which one are you?
is way kewl - is the smaller the original house and the 2story added later or visa versa?
cute! :)
Sorry so late — computer issues that took some time to hammer out. How’s everyone tonight?
oh yahhhhhhh,and when the meltdown comes there will be no way out
Most of my FDL favorites are on this thread–except one…*G*…
Doing fine PW. How are you?
Is that in New Paltz?
I have no trouble making a double diagnosis here.
hey PW…. the pups are feisty tonight
The boy’s from This Old House would be proud.
She’s a beaut.
sorry, man… I’ll leave gracefully. *g*
I’m OK — gotta go hit the showers soon, but otherwise fine. Wassup?
Standing on the far left, naturally. *g*
i lovvvvvvvve stone houses
Whoooo let the pups out?
If he’s a Bushy, he can’t tell the difference between lying and not knowing up from down. Third term indeed.
feeling fine?
The country place. Looks really cool and rustic. I’ll bet it’s beautiful when the trees are green, or orange and red too. I want to go there and write something really important!
Both built at the same time, believe it or not. The small wing is more primitive & contains the kitchen. There are a few other examples of similar constructs around in the area.
lets blame Eli
Yes.
wow, now that is a piece of architecture
That’s why I vote for Door Number Three: Lying AND Stupid.
Up until today I thought McCain should be considered mentally frail due to his age…up until today, that is. He might still be mentally incapable, but he also seems to be just as pathological a liar as GWB.
A comment I read over at Kevin’s got me Googling the good Senator’s military history. It is not impressive once you get past the Time Magazine hero label.
Google the term “John Songbird McCain” and you will find interesting information from Veterans groups claim he was never tortured. Here is an interesting tidbit that was embedded in the aforementioned comment at KD’s and at one of the googled sites:
“What is the real story behind his days as a POW? The U.S. Veteran Dispatch had an article in June of 1996 entitled “POW Songbird McCain Wrongly Described As A Hero.” It recounted numerous instances where John McCain violated the Military Coda of Conduct, which specifically orders American personnel to give the enemy no information other than name, rank, serial number, and date of birth. It requires that they accept no favors from the enemy, and to make no written or oral statement disloyal to the United States.
The fact is, in exchange for better medical treatment, McCain violated this code four days after being captured on Oct. 26, 1967. In a U.S. News and World Report interview dated May 14, 1973, two months after he was released, McCain admitted that he exchanged military information in exchange for spending six weeks in a hospital normally reserve for North Vietnamese Military officers.
U.S. government records show that less than two weeks after he was taken to the hospital, Hanoi’s press began quoting specific military information, including the name of the aircraft carrier on which McCain had been based, information about the location of rescue ships and the order of which his attack was supposed to take place. The records demonstrate, according to the Dispatch article that McCain continued to collaborate with the Communists after he recovered from his injuries. He did a number of propaganda broadcasts that were aimed at destroying the moral of American servicemen fighting in the jungles of South Vietnam, On June 4, 1969, a U.S. Wire Service story reported one of McCain’s broadcasts.
The service reported “Hanoi has aired a broadcast in which the pilot son of the U.S. Commander in the Pacific, Adm. John McCain purportedly admits to having bombed civilian targets in North Vietnam and praised medical treatment he has received since being taken prisoner.”
McCain committed other breaches of the Code of Conduct by meeting with and giving interviews to foreign news reporters and anti American delegations.
McCain admits to talking with numerous high-ranking North Vietnamese leaders, including General Vo Nguyen Giap, their Minister of Defense.
He also did a cozy interview over coffee, oranges, and cake wish a Cuban psychiatrist, which took place in the Hanoi office of the Committee for Foreign Cultural Relations.
He failed to “evade answering questions to the utmost of his ability;” by actually conversing with his interviewer in Spanish.
Perhaps these are some of the reasons why John McCain hip [sic] been so instrumental in discounting any suggestion that live prisoners of war still languish in Southeast Asia. It certainly does explain to me why he traveled to Hanoi in May of 1993 with soon-to-be Ambassador to Vietnam Pete Peterson, and convinced the Communist leadership to agree that they would NEVER MAKE PUBLIC THEIR INTERROGATION FILES OF AMERICAN POWs.” (This is in an article entitled John McCain is No War Hero”. http://www.namvets.com/Reading.....r_hero.htm
Apparently, once home and reinstated to active duty, his behaviors in Florida were also questionable. John McCain’s record needs to be fully vetted, and not taken at face value.
I, for one, am going to work my ass off to make sure he is not the next president.
yep–why not have the FDL upstate meetup there? Or are you worried that we’ll bust up your furniture? *g*
..did you get me email?
kitchen kept separate for hot days but door can be opened up to heat the main house in the winder?
Works for me!
yup cornella,of bad bets for our future
So come to the FDL BBQ. Honing in on a data around June 22.
feeling good. spine STILL doing well. muscles all in working order even working both jobs today. all is good.
yeah!
I truly mean you no offense.
But this is offensive.
let’s not…
No, I didn’t. Did you get it returned to you?
Ha, just checked my spam folder & there you are. Maybe that’s how it all came acroppers.
i am joining the NY/NJ firepups for that weekend in June
The house is beautiful! I grew up in historic houses, and miss the PA/DE area architecture very much. I have also bookmarked your porcelain page — lovely! Must warn you, true china addict here…
me too
Hear Hear, newt !
that is so cool, tex
i have a thing for yellowware and greenware … more of a pottery person… stodgy and staid
All of you smart, beautiful women and no men? Did you have a “no boys allowed ” rule?
Hey petro!
Your guy did himself and the Nation proud yesterday.
ha!!!
spam eh? Is that all I am to you? *G*
McCain’s intentional obfuscation serves to invigorate and engage his base - with Hannity, O’Reilly, Limbaugh, Beck and others pumping this shit constantly AND the so-called liberal media essentially going along with it, supporting it whole hog or ignoring it - Never setting the facts straight - McCain is betting that he can get away with it.
All Muslims are conflated as Extremists, Al Quaida, Sunni, Shiite, Kurds and the guy at the Quicki mart. The Republican de-education of America has worked out very well for them. The dumbing down of education and propagandizing to students (K-12) coupled with a corporate driven (warmongering) media has created a group of true believers.
YAY!
don’t think he’s lying or senile
option 4: PTSD, means very suggestible to what’s going on around him
we can only speculate as to what might be going on behind the scenes
(explains the temper, too). stress makes it seem a lot worse than it is.
Excellent!
EW and Greenwald ask the same questions and come to the same answers. If he could land a plane on a carrier, he’s smart enough to know he’s lying, and dumb enough to think it will work for him as well as Bush. He just hadn’t reckoned with making room for Cheney’s arm to reach his jaw so that he could lie convincingly enough.
Started with pottery and as I age, seduced by GOLD!
Yep, Biodun, your earlier email was also in spam, so I have your dates.
Mwhahahahahaha!
RGB:–
not to worry…*G*…
ahhhh…. a delightful eccentricity!
Hey, I gotta take off and get some zzzzzs. Can y’all hold down the fort and be nice to Suzanne now?
I’m still hoping Gore runs … *g* … yes Obama was great, so nice to see the MSM do their damnedest to show that he is 3 levels of atmosphere above them …
Mr. LS says,
“The President has nothing to do with policy..the lobbyists make policies.”
In a nutshell.
That was a special trip (notice the date was 1980), and yes there were no men allowed. We asked for an all female staff from OARS Guides, and they sent 2 women and one man. So all told, there were 16 women and one man. We ragged him mercilessly and I’ll be he was never the same afterwards.
That’s good to read dear.
oh shit, pw, that’s like a double dog dare invite for them to stir up trouble (putting on kevlar and nomex)
sleep well pw
Thanks, jcricket. I’m guessing that he’s voted in favor of torture is because it worked on him, so he’s supposing it will work on others. (If he was even tortured.) Hows can a “POW” flip flop on the issue of torture? I’m able to understand flipflopping on a number of issues in order to be elected, but torture??? Religion?
RBG ain’t the one you have to worry about tonight.
*G*
night PW. Thanks for the post
Yes? Hone quickly. The airfare goes up every day we doddle!
I started with Pennsylvania redware, fell in love with English blue and white, pined for Chinese Export porcelain, now having an affair with French and Austrian porcelain. Note: all in books.
LOL, they probably thought you needed to have a man around!
glad all is well!
Great news!
boa noite, pw
interesting kristoff editorial in the times today
well its the witching hour here too nite,nite all
i’ll do my damnest on that…
oh, i’ve had a life long love of english blue and white …
I missed something. What?
Pakistan elects first ever female to head parliament.
Fadhima Mirza.
-G
So happy for you!
Chris
thanks y’all.
anyone remember the name of the christian conference that all the repubs showed up for this past summer? rachel maddow was taking about it and about them singing how America has forgotten God. Anyone know?
sleep well sadlyyes.
I would add, McSame McCain has become a full on total weasel. His denial was a confusing non-denial denial with could be read to further spread his blatantly dishonest but poltically very useful statement. This is very intentional, and a sign that any last shred of the old McCain (who was half con-man anyway) is gone, no longer exists.
So his McCred is now McShred.
This is an empty rotten hollowed out fraud and liar eaten away be raw ambition. He has flushed the last bit of self-respect and honor down the tubes.
The only, only way to combat him is to be very aggressive. Obama’s statement was not enough.
We need to ‘get it out there’ by any means necessary. That is the one thing the wingnuts are willing to do, no matter what. We need to do it also. They do it with lies, very boldly and fearlessly. Why are we afraid to do it with the truth?
If the reality party does go full steam ahead on ‘getting it out there’ then the wingnuts go batshit nasty and crazy and the craven media clowns will bemoan the awfulness and partisanship of the Democrats.
Fools would be afraid of that (for example, most of mainstream DLC tuyp Democrats). Wise folks understand that such a reaction will be good and a sign of success. Their very reaction will also help ‘get it out there.’
Damn the torpedoes and full speed ahead, with the truth.
Now that I’ve figured out that Biodun’s email ended up in spam and I had the wrong email for TexBetsy, I think I have all the info I need. But I don’t seem to have an email for you. So if you want to be on the list send me one at rosannecahn at aol dot com.
Should be able to have a notice out tomorrow or the next day.
That’s gonna smoke some Islamofascist Brainpans… LOL…
We’re stuck with Ben “Bubbles” Bernanke and Barney “Bailout” Frank.
WTF why not “Looney” McToones?
Why are third world countries so much more advanced than us?
Are you referring to that one Republican Presidential debate? The “values” debate or something like that? I think most of the top-tier Rethugs didn’t show.
hey Busted…maybe you’re right…*G*
…am having these big grins…watch out!!! Just kidding. am actually just a Teddy Bear. Just wanna be hugged…*G*
Jane dig(g)s me though, so I don’t really have too much to worry about, at least here at FDL…
Justice Sunday
I hope she gets better security than Benazir.
Bailout Barney and Helicopter Ben… as they rotor off into the future.
Look who is joined at the hip with him.
Don’t even get me started on that sycophantic leech!
left you a reply in previous thread.
According to “the record”…the torture of McCain was successful.
Why are we considering this as a viable option?
Why?
It is not okay, never, it is not okay, okay! Never!! Those who are generally tortured are cannon fodder for the corporations. This human being was tortured. It was unacceptable then, and now.
Ben’s ok, he’s trying to mop up the Greenspan mess
true dat
Some one needs to have the guts to go on TV and confront Russert, Matthews, Scar-whatever-whosits he is, several other members of the press. I mean lay into them in such a way that they might get cut off on air. Then they should raise holy hell about getting cut off.
Some on needs to get it out there that the lousy and worthless corrupt media is in bed with a liar and weasel and schemer and fraud. More public fuss and outrage the better.
No bad words or calling names or needless rudeness, mind you. But willing to lay down the truth in very firm tone and directly challenge some folks on the air. Not sure who would do that. But needs to be done.
not justice sunday. let me look up values debate. thanks.
“Bubbles” is owned lock, stock, and barrel by Wall Street neurastheniacs.
Bubbles does what they tell him to do. So did Greenspan.
justice sunday was part of the Family Research Council and the dobson klan ?
Yahoo, another one’s gone. The only reason he got reelected the last time was cause he got big federal aid for a large heay wet snowstorm in Buffalo in the October before the election.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/184444.php
And there’s a BlueAmerica candidate running for his seat.
http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/18111
There is also an op-ed by Zal Khalilzad basically asking for the UN to take over administering Afghanistan.
Apparently nation building is too much ‘hard work’ for George W. McFailure.
-G
As far as electing women, the US is batting the same record as the Arab World.
Asia-no problem. South America-no problem. Europe-no problem. Canada-no problem. Africa-onesy with Liberia and Madame Sirleaf-Johnson. Jamaica had Portia Simpson last year.
The US and the Arab World are in lockstep though.
Were you thinking of the “Value Voters Presidential Debate” in Florida? McCain did not participate.
whatever the title of the conference was, it was probably Orwellian…
This just blows my mind. I had no idea.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....92361.html
yep! found it! Thanks. listen to the completely twisted version of “God Bless America” that they sang at a republican debate. Starts about 7 minutes in.
Shudder..my deepest fears…I know I’m not alone.
One hair harmed on those running..one hair harmed, I know who will I will hold accountable.
Don’t you f’ing dare.
Ben’s OK? Not so much. Let housing bubble develop on his watch.
correct. most of the big names stayed home. LINKY
McCain, Lieberman and Lindsay Graham standing shoulder to shoulder in the desert resembled The Three Amigos.
it really was fueled when greenspan dropped rates way too low after 9/11 to keep the bushies safe from the double dip
Ha! Just add hats.
more like the three stooges
now THAT was a movie destined to sit on the back of the shelf.
To be sure, but Fed had regulathority oversight on parts of it, which they abrogated, as did every other housing & financial related regulator.
Sad to watch Creationists walking through a musuem tonight on Frontline.
Brain-washing young minds with the most WTF reasoning ever.
Really sad.
You nailed it!!
The Three Amigos.
Exactamently!!!
thanks that it good news about Reynolds, though there is the danger that they will find some one competent to run the House Republican’s money operation now. But good, another wingnut gone.
—-
I also noticed this at TPM just above the post on Reynolds:
“The co-founder of Laura Ingraham’s radio show who now helps run Hugh Hewitt’s ‘Salem Radio Network’ has mixed an Obama video interweaving Obama with Malcolm X, the Black Power salute at the Mexico City Olympics and Public Enemy’s ‘Fight the Power’.”
—–
OK, now you see the wingnuts are so out of it, they are making mistakes. Everything sounded scary and hateful until the Public Enemy bit. They are going to scare people with Public Enemy and Chuck D? REally? Isn’t Public Enemy a golden oldie now, kinda like a hip-hop Lawrence Welk? He is like a rap good-will amabassador, running voter reg drives and MC-ing world fusion rap festivals and stuff. I heard a radio interview and he was enthusing over Asian rap! Tagalog rap, the next big thing! Or Ilocano rap, or something.
I mean, the sheer out-of-ness of that might help Obama.
The Age of Ignorance.
-G
they had a little to much faith in the credit derivatives market to spread risk, true, but there’s a little bit of the SEC that should’ve been in there too …
In all fairness: This is a conversation that I’ve had with my 19-year-old daughter: The US is the most powerful country in the world, so it would have more problems electing a woman as prez than would a Sri Lanka….
Let’s get s grip with this one. Any US prez is the leader of the world…at least at this point in history…
That’s it! And here is a youtube of the great Rachel Maddow talking about it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0IvNydHFhQ
what, dinosaurs and cro magnon didn’t co-exist? tell me it at so!
Which museum?
It looks a little suspicious to me. I smell a hack job.
I seriously feel that we will be hearing a lot more about this:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....92361.html
In fact that’s inherent in the current structure of the U.S. economy and the tools that the monetary authority has to deal with it. There’s little possibilty of overall inflation with the exception of some structural problems & supply shocks, so the monetary stimulus goes into some real grow & a lot of asset price inflation. But this is a large topic & I’ve had a glass or two of wine, so perhaps we can join that issue on another thread when I am fresher.
this is the hack job I was referring to.
I seriously feel there’s nothing there.
oh you’re the best!
you get a cookie!
I don’t know if I catch your drift whatsover.
-G
Chris,
Do you like the local potteries in my area? We have a bunch of them.
Yes, i see your point. Women are only competent to run small insignificant countries.
And Obama is known to be a doctrinaire lefty socialist, a strident old paleo party line Democrat (according to one goofy smear attempt by GOP).
So, I guess they will trot out doctored photos of Obama shaking hands with Gus Hall next. Commies are coming, commies are coming. Then a scary montage of Obama being crooned to by Paul Robeson.
I mean, these people are dinosaurs. I am not sure whehter some of their scare mongering will be effective (which would be very disturbing) or will be laughed at.
How many angry white males are so clueless and out of it not to notice the time warp. Like the hep-cat Romney with his two tones shoes getting racy with Beav, Wally and the girls down at the malt shop.
how many repubs LIVE in the time warp?
I first encountered Creationist thinking back in college 20 years ago. Fought them very hard then. In no way did I think I’d still be dealing with it 20 years later. Very very sad.
it’s a deal, i’m drinking cab sav and on spring break, btw, have you read Bernanke, Reinhart, Sack (2004)Monetary Policy Alternatives at the zero bound: An Empirical Assessment ?
I think not, it fits to well. So odd.
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No. But I’ll look forward to your short version summary.
Don’t tell Lou Dobbs ’bout those mulit-lingual cookies TB.
-G
good night friends. i have an early day tomorrow.
shouldn’t tell him what i do for a living either then
LOL
G’night TB.
Nite dear Betsy!
G’nite Betsy, sent you an e- mail …
G’nite all !
Oh yes! Many years ago my parents and I did an Ohio pottery tour. We went to the, now I’m forgetting the spelling, Ransbottom?— something factory. They had tons of earthenware pots, and I bought a huge one to make English fruitcake in one.
It was the Nightline Show … not Frontline. Sorry about that.
The museum was in Denver.
pain free sleep wishes tex
just chiming in with apologies to anyone who has pointed out the obvious already:
Telling lies? Dumber than paint?
Truly this man is fit to be president!
thanks. y’all are the best.
ah, c’mon, real women can do event studies and VAR
DING! - make that a DOUBLE DING!
Do you know creamware? Early Brit pottery.
…no that’s not my point at all..you’re blaming the messenger–ME!!!
I’m a certified bona fide feminist…I don’t have any problems with a woman bin prez of the US…or any other country..
for Chrisssakes..read between the lines. Don’t shoot from the hip!!!
do you think Jane would dig me if I didn’t have feminist credentials? Just Goggle me, guys… honestly..
eCAHN:
You should know better than that…*G*…(Watch out for that big *G*)
What I find interesting is that Lieberman and Petraeus both intervened within the last 24 hours to say that Iran was NOT arming Al-Qaeda. What’s up with that? Doesn’t it fit the Cheney driven ‘Iran has restarted it’s nuke program’ meme? I don’t get why they are doing their spin like this, but I’ll bet that there is a reason.
:)
-G
It’s the ol’ Raygun excuse …
Also in love with creamware…Leeds? Write more.
We can do it, but I’m retired so i don’t have to do it. Ha ha.
Hiya, pups!
Been writing about the debate coming up in Kodiak tomorrow evening between all the candidates running against sleazo crook Don Young for our sole US House seat. They’ll be talking about commercial fishing. I’m hoping Diane Benson will come away from it with the berst Deadly Catch.
I did enjoy watching Hardball tonight with Joe Madison asking Mathews and Buchanan “what are you white men so afraid of?”
They just blinked at him like deer in the headlights.
That’s one of the local ones, still in operation
link
I like this one .
Just imagine what Charles Darrow is thinking from his grave!
hey ET
oops - I was going to write to TexBetsy before she went to bed, and somehow left the response thingie going……
Perhaps Biodun was inferring that the election of a female president has been curtailed by mores/folkways/institutionalized thought processes disseminated via General Electric programming (Tim Russert). That’s the only spin I got for him.
Hello All,
Sorry to be off topic, but does anyone know where to find online copies of documents from the Gitmo trials? I’m trying to find Omar Khadr’s affidavit that was released yesterday. Any leads would be greatly appreciated :)
With gratitude,
Heather
i’m going to die at the lecturn at this rate … good for you!
To the economists here: What about the real eocnomy. Kind of dowdy stuff I know. But all the talk and helpful measures for the real economy seem to assume that there are more 15+ K income households out there to buy the inventory at something close to current prices. Is there?
Ecahn seemed to disagree with me on an earlier post, but I think housing will be in doldrums for next 12-18 months. If Ecahnonomics believes we are near the bottom, I think we will stay there for a long time after it is reached. Am I wrong?
US has relied on construction to fuel recoveries. So, that is out for this recovery. What real economic activity will take its place to fuel the expansion (assuming we have a detectable one over next 2-3 years)?
You did not explain your point well at all. I know exactly what you’re talking about and agree with you. I did read between the lines. But my short version is how what you wrote sounded.
it’s a pretty weak mashu but the purpose is to link obama to ‘angry black men’. well we said the race card would be played by the right and they aren’t disappointing. guess this new talking point (angry black christian militant’ will put the muslim thing to rest
Of course I am not offended by your candor. I truly appreciate it. Mr Cricket tells me (after I post - of course!)that this information may be the fruits of a right-wing conspiracy against McCain. I will be responsible and take more time to ascertain whether he is correct or not. The information is rather old so it is not a new conspiracy if that is what it can be called, but it’s ancient origins are now my objective.
Thanks for your remark newtonusr!
talk left sometimes has those kinda documents.
Try the Dept. of Defense website.
-G
I mainly watch clips on TV, but that sounds good maybe I should start watching the real thing. Who is Joe Madison?
I’m too far gone to discuss this tonight, so another time?
just back from brushing teeth ET. What were you going to say?
Thanks very much, Suzanne; I have a look :)
Same here. That’s why I asked for clarity.
-G
Before and during the American Revolution, fine pottery came from the UK.
Old family creamware jug rests in the Winterthur Museum in Delaware.
Manufacturer unknown. Any ideas?
That’s it! I think that I heard that it burned, is that NOT so?
I think it’s dynamite, but probably won’t gain traction. Not dynamite to the average voter, but dynamite to the progressives. It doesn’t seem like a hack job at all. It fits the rest of the profile to logically.
707 You and me both.
Clarence Darrow. :)
I really hope we improve science education in this country. Other countries will bury us if we don’t.
Rachel Maddow has the guts and has done it. She just needs more airtime on MSNBC. I admire her so much; she’s working her tail off for this country.
A guy who took pleasure in dropping bombs on people in Viet Nam and who doesn’t want us to leave Iraq until we can leave honorably, no matter how many Iraqis have to die, is a sick individual who belongs in a mental institution.
I wish i was that optimistic, but i’m thinking more of the stagnation that happened in japan after their financial crisis. I think we’re seeing way too much speculation in commodities right now and I don’t think food prices will come down because of the tax incentives right now for biofuels. Oil is way too high right now, but we need to restructure any way for the long term so it might not be that bad. But, I’ve transferred my assets to things associated with the EURO. I’m thinking we’ll be in stagflation for awhile. I’m hunkered down into some good technology in the biosciences comes thru …
you got it!!!
If the FDL crowd here tonight thinks that I’m a sexist or not wanting a woman to be prez, then, you guys are not really the careful readers that I’ve always assumed you to be at night … I just assumed the night crowd to be more lucid…
Jane (and RGB) know(s) me better than all this shit…Good night all…
that’s how it sounded to me too ..
Plovering, are you still here?
they are already burying us …
Yup.
wobblybits:
“well we said the race card would be played by the right and they aren’t disappointing.”
I agree, but Chuck D? C’mon. Are there enough out of it white folks left?
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Ecahn: no problem and no rush. I have not kept up with macro and macro finance, but this crowd, Bernanke, etc. seem to be of school that the Great D was mainly monetary. So this will be an interesting natural experiment. Since seems like the going assumption is that no one needs to mind the real economy store. And who will dare criticize these monetary maestros’ work?
Except I do follow nonstationary statistical macro analysis. But reading theory of nonstationary VARs, and cointegration with sample data sets from Europe and Asia does not keep me up to speed with reality very much. And women econometricians are considered regular members of the shock troops in the vanguard in that field now.
I was going to say “At least a third of them.” In states where realists can get their party back from total insanity, young Republicans are trying. In Alaska the bible bangers have pretty much had their say for now.
You might be interested in the fact that I had a reconciliation last Friday with a Rabbi I’d been at odds with in the past. I was blogging the state GOP convention. He gave an invocation, and only nine of about 400 stood up for him. I was one of the nine. He noticed me and came back to talk later.
Rove says they can play both Angry Muslim and Angry Christian. Key words are: religious extremist, angry black cultist, fringe militant, hateful anti-american rhetoric.
Fun fact: Rove’s stepfather (who raised him) had numerous penis piercings.
Well, if I heard correctly Joe Madison is a DJ on XM Radio. But it’s the first time I’d ever heard of him. He was direct, man! Talk about straight talk.
Oh, he has a website. joemadison.com He’s a civil rights activist so I think my soundbite diminishes his accomplishments a bit. Anyway, he got my attention.
Chris, it was Friendship Pottery II that burned in ‘96. If that had anything to do with Ransbottom, I don’t know…remember I’m not a native of this area, I’m more apt to remember NM potters than Ohio ones.
Hope you read me at 268 before you go.
I pulled a major boner earlier today. Somewhat different circumstances (I assumed information that readers did not have), but same outcome. Readers thought I said something that I would never say in a million years. SanderO caught me on it and, while I initially was insulted, it turned out to be a very good thing because I got to clarify what I meant to everyone who didn’t understand my initial comment. Whew.
k.. I just gotta say, that huggy picture above looks positively obscene, and I just mean because of who’s doing the huggin’
there’s a large group that have reformulated the sticky prices models … the hot stuff is in the neo phillips curve and the neo keynesian models … have you heard of sunspots?
Creamware — like British 18th century tableware?
Well, that is good news. You think we are in for a decade of 90s Japan? Ugghh. Commodities, with high inflation and negative riskless real interest rate -seems like they will be periodically soaring, in addition to massive subidies for some which will keep oil and grain prices high.
Will be interesting times.
That is it for me tonight.
sorry.. I meant to say in #297 I don’t just mean because of who’s doing the hugging. I mean, what’s mcbush doing there?
Hey, thanks. I just remember stories from the PD. Anyway, I’m still a lover of all things ceramic.
well, if you have any greenware or yellowware you’re tired of send it down to me in new orleans … i still love the basics
Last blast before I go: i am an applied econometrician, so familiar with all the math and theory of that stuff. But lack of time keeps me from seeing what connection it has with reality. But… you know… in economics reality is just a special case. But when interesting times hit, my lack of keeping up with what theories have some remote connection with reality renders me more than slightly clueless.
I thought Bernanke was a money doesn’t matter all that much kind of guy, but I probably need to read up. If you have any suggestions, I will check back and go read them.
k.. I just saw this article http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/200.....adian_dc_1
wtf?. we’re brutally torturing and threatening rape and rendition to 15 year old POWs! It looks like this kid was 15 years old when he was captured on the battlefiled, taken to gitmo and savagely tortured AND sexually humiliated for years. Oh gawd.
The jug was ordered by ancestor with the Boston Fire Dept. about 1770.
It was a special one-off jug with fire dept designs painted all round.
10″ high, 8″ across. I could send you a picture.
i got it all..not to worry..I’ll be at New Paltz..but you might have to get a cab to come and pick me up from the train station…my friend is a little reluctant to meet a bunch of communists after all…at a private meetup nonetheless…
I ran more macroeconomic regressions than there are degrees of freedom. So I share your pain. Then I decided to figure out a different way of determining what was going on in the real world. Kind of my own 12-step program. So I look forward to having it out at a later time.
I’m going to look up greenware tomorrow, because I don’t know anything about it. Did I mention that I’m a reference librarian?
jcricket - please let me clarify…
I have a problem with the accuracy (or grotesque inaccuracy) of the smear. But even more, the suggestion that someone under that kind of duress would, could be held liable for anything they did to lessen their suffering.
Significant torture. Significant injuries in his jet. Significant time in the Hanoi Hilton. Significant sacrifice when refusing to leave before his fellow captives.
I think we need to contrast between the pilot and fighter, and the man of Arizona and Washington. I am no fan of the politician in the man, but his courage in that environment is, to me, unimaginable.
my $0.02
Whew.
email tomorrow or friday on new paltz. i’m not worried about the furniture.
Monetary Policy Alternatives at the zero Bound: An Empirical Assessment 2004 Bernanke et al … explains what he’s doing right now … it’s an event study and a VAR model to look at term structure of interest rates –it’s all about nonstandard monetary policy it’s part of the FEDS
What does that mean, Biodun? I don’t get it.
no, didn’t know that … i’m a midwestern girl … it’s all over the middle of the country, and I love it!
Biodun,
No worries at all.
Peace.
-G
the big grin is just the big grin…i got you on that one…*G*
Grins back atcha!
for the anaversary,
Come you masters of war, you that build all the guns,
you that build all the bombs you that hide behind walls you that hide behind desks i just want you to know that i can see through your masks. you that never done nothin except build to destroy, you play with my world like it’s your little toy, you put a gun in my hand and you hide from my eyes and you turn and run faster when the fast bullets fly. LikeJudas of old, you lie and deceive, a world war can be won? you want me to believe.But I see through eyes and I see througn your brain, like i see through the water that runs down my drain.You fastn the triggers for others to fire, then you sit back and watch while the death count gets higher. You hide in your mansions as young peoples blood flows out of their bodies and is buried in the mud You’ve thrown the worst fear that could ever be hurled, fear to bring children into the world.For threatin my baby unborn and unnamed, you ain’t worth the blood that runs in your veins. You might say that i’m young, you might say i’m unlearned but their’s one thing I know though I’m younger than you,even Jesus would never forgive the things that you do. Let me ask you one question.Is your money that good? Wil it buy you forgiveness, do you think that it could? I think you will find, when your death takes it’s toll, all the money you made will never buy back your soul. ~~~ModNote: edited to remove offending phrase. Death is something that is not wished for at the lake… for anyone, from anyone.~~~ Thanks Bob
I know, we’re not supposed to make this particular attack.
But what about option 4 — he forgot. After all, people forget things. Americans forget things. Even great Americans forget things. And ahem, octogenarian Americans forget more things.
No, no, he’s not old! I mean, there’s nothing wrong with being old. Really really old. That’s normal. Heck, most presidents have to keep their pills in boxes with the days of the week on them so they don’t forget. To take their pills. Their many, many pills.
But in many ways, he’s still pretty hearty. For his age. I mean, not that his age matters, and he hardly has any liver spots for a guy that old. No, he can still remember every vivid detail of all his old stories. I’ve heard him tell them. And then tell them again. In the course of the same conversation. Sometimes just a few minutes after he told it the first time. But that doesn’t happen often. Yet.
Really, as the public ages, it’s only natural that our Presidents would be older too. It’s only natural that we’d have our second president in a couple decades to suffer Alzheimer’s while he’s in office. That’s not a bad thing. In fact, people who say I’m attacking McCain need to look in the mirror. Maybe they just have a problem with old, forgetful people who can’t seem to adapt to the world around them.
‘ill never understand why Cindy wanted his OLD ,MARRIED ass anyway?”
power
With all of McCain’s so called “experience”, five years of war in Iraq and he still does not know the distinction between Shiite’s and Sunni’s. God help us if he is elected!
Iran does support Hezbollah, and McCain assumes that he can conflate them and Al Qaeda without being called on it, except by liberal elitist nitpickers.
What we’re seeing here from John McCain is the beginning stages of early onset Alzheimer’s Disease. Let’s keep an eye on its progression over this year.