Hiya!

eureka!

That can’t be possible

ohmystars, eurkea, that is a lot of rain. were you rescuing folks with your kayak?

Two threads ago, we were relating our famous person encounters. Not sure that can be topped on the same day (meaning period of time when one is awake, not a literal day, as it is already tomorrow here on the East Coast), but we’ll give it a try.

ES!

Sister, can you spare a dry towel? *g*

Suz!

This story of Clinton’s Capitol Hill Bible study group really got me thinking, I feel that it is the final piece of the puzzle in understanding her contradictions.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....92361.html

Well I tried.

got a fresh batch, still warm from the dryer for ya es.

i’m gonna call it a night and get some reading done. but before i go, i wanted to leave you an interesting link that might explain why Wright’s view of the gov’t infecting its own people with a disease (AIDS). As the gov’t has done this before and the black community was the guinea pig for 40 years, it is understandable why some would feel the same way as Wright (mind you, i’m not validating or invalidating his statement)

were folks out on the river in that rain or was it from the flooding?

g’nite wobbly

Well, I’ve never had a first response. Guidance?

i was reading that earlier and creepy isn’t strong enough word. a book is set for publishing in may entitled, the family.

but it is a good explanation as to why she and her camp have been quiet on the whole wright thing

doing a drive thru *g* Seems like my work hours have shifted nightward again the last few months, sure cuts into commenting time. *ndfg waves to all the pups*

ooooh, one of my favorite DS songs! Thanks.

I was just thinking about how much I revile Dick Cheney. I recall that I posted a cynical reply to someone a while back who was bemoaning the war etc as all soulfilled human beings would. My reply was that Cheney would only say: so?

I truly despise everything he stands for.

So I’m thankful that I have a place to express those feelings and I going to take Water of Love to rock me to sleep tonight.

Peace pups, dosido.

Evening ES, I’m looking at google earth, trying to find the king river in ES, can you help out ?

or it could all be an R smear

hi/g’nite ndfg

Yeah. For me it’s like the final piece of the puzzle. I’ll be so glad when it’s over.

g’nite dosido

just a driveby, folks. work is crushing these days, ’specially for we guys of a certain age.
besure and checkout Glenn’s post about the latest ABC News sleaze. he links to Brian Ross’s
email address. take a few minutes and go over there and send Brain a love letter. he needs
our attention. carry on pilgrims. i gotta get down to the office.

I think this fellow was out trying to save lost canoes. I just check a few other AR blogs and it’s really bad in a lot of places.. Casualties and missing persons. Some say the water is higher than the enormous floods of ‘82. The Kings River is a half a mile wide were normally I can throw a rock across it.

anyone know the author very well? due diligence on this story? creeps me out too but want to wait to see what develops.

Yes, person on Wash Journal a day or so ago drew that link. So important to both know history & put yourself in the other person’s shoes.

But that applies to Wright too. He had some responsibility for trying to tell how whites looked at it instead of just rabble rousing. The point is to create understanding, not tio rally the troops in the interest of short run accomplishments.

JMO

We all live in our own worlds and I won’t fault Wright on that. Just disappointed that he never considered that his words would have wider reach, in which case he might have expressed himself differently.

Liked how Obama is able to see different sides & articulate them.

Don’t necessarily think that will translate into accomplishments, but it’s a start.

Carroll County.. NW corner ..two counties east.

nite.

risking his life for property? those are the ones who make the most mistakes and cause the most misery when being rescued. risk life to save life - not risk life to save property.

ES..11 inches? Was the Crescent Hotel damaged? Eureka Springs is all hills, where is the bottom of the drainage? Sounds like it might be close to your house.

Near Elk ranch, route 262?

exactly, it needs to be vetted - who is publishing, who wrote, what is their history (regenery press, wingnut welfare queen, RNC pioneer are the kinda of questions and suspected answers that i come up with immediately)

No, it is one of those pieces of information that inter-relates with all of the other pieces to well. It gives insight into her personality and actions as Senator and presidential candidate. I don’t feel that the quasi-Nazi threads are relevant after so much time, but it shows a connection to the consrvatives and neocons and how the conversation between her and them is conducted.

Think that means you’re co-dependent with the front pager, but you must confer with ES to determine the Emily Post aspect. You know, manners in this new medium are pretty fluid.

sorry, 62

could be, we’ll have to see what turns up

nite

instead of devoting time and energy into a smear of a d candidate, i choose to focus on making sure the r candidate does not get the win.

Crescent is on a hilltop, so it should be in good shape. I haven’t been to town yet. White River and Kings are the bottom around here. I wonder if it was enough rain to flood over Beaver Dam.. That’s rare but fantastic viewing. Beaver Dam is over 1100 feet, iirc.

Elk Ranch, is the western side of the county. near beaver lake. I am about 20 miles east and a couple miles south of ER.

Love Eureka Springs, used to spend a lot of time there as a kid, family owned some property and boats on the Lake of the Ozarks and we’d venture down there a lot … think it’s the basis of my love with the french quarter.

hey Eureka Springs!!!

am here, to respect your thread brother… someone else might think am here to diss you…

OK, RGB, mea culpa…am really asking for it tonite ain’t I? I’ll quit while am ahead…

i agree but if anything it certainly shows (at least in part) why there is a distrust of the gov’t (add lynchings, etc. and i can certainly understand the hurt, distrust and anger of that generation)

” i choose to focus on making sure the r candidate does not get the win.”

In the spirit of that remark, I would just point out that John McCain supports torture of human beings by the United States of America.

Good nite, folks.

Follow 62, through Eureka Sprs. and it will cross the Kings about five miles east. Share a link if you find a good view please.

g’nite neuro

me too

Sounds good to me. But I am completely incapable of seeing how someone could vote for McShame. I’m going to Savannah with someone whose choices are: Hillary, McCain, Obama. So I’ll have plenty of time to probe that issue. I suspect he hasn’t vetted McCain as thoroughly as some of the posts have here, so I’ll be curious if I have acquired enuf info to convince him. He’s hyperrational, like me.

Crescent is on a hilltop, so it should be in good shape. I haven’t been to town yet. White River and Kings are the bottom around here. I wonder if it was enough rain to flood over Beaver Dam.. That’s rare but fantastic viewing. Beaver Dam is over 1100 feet, iirc.

Then there was the flood of ‘27..a little before my time:

In largely agrarian Arkansas, the Flood of 1927 covered about 6,600 square miles, with thirty-six out of seventy-five Arkansas counties under water up to thirty feet deep in places. In Arkansas, more people were affected by the floodwaters (over 350,000), more farmland inundated (over two million acres),

link

I tend to disregard HuffPo with regard to Hillary. (Same as I disregard Taylor Marsh with regard to Obama.) My private joke is to see (every time I click there) how unflattering a picture they can have of Hillary in the headline. Arianna is jealous.

Has anyone else noticed that the headlines at HuffPo rarely have much to do with the story? Any story. Really poor press, imo.

i worry about those so wrapped up in their hatred of hrc that they would vote for anyone, even st john the torturer, rather than her.

i honestly can’t see the goldwater/rockafeller repubs voting for him … he’s got no business sense at all and has admited as much

so good to see you, ndfg;)

And if you consider the condition of the inner cities (read Juan Cole today about Detroit), it not just earlier generations. Today’s middle aged black adults lived in & saw the Bronx when Jimmy Carter did his photo op there at the absolute bottom. It’s still very much with us. Maybe not quite as bad, but certainly not good.

Hi, Steve-AR! Have you been gone for a while, or have we just been on opposite threads?

hey there—

you started something ’bout Twin Cities FDL studs.Just kidding!!!

Steve, were you in Little Rock in the late 70’s when we got 13″ in a single morning? Now that was a flood!

Well, I can understand that, but don’t in any way feel that our remaining candidates are of equal standing. Turnabout is fair play, but I don’t think this is the type of story that will gain traction outside of the blogosphere anyway. I don’t put much stock in PPP( D) polls either. For Obama supporters it has been an interesting storm but we are still standing and strong as ever. In no way do we feel that the poison pill offered by the opponent’s impossible ascendancy is any danger.

I think this story is of huge importance to the progressive blogosphere.

But I’ll calm down, I’m so ashamed of being banned by the MyDD playpen.

That would be on the plains, closer to Berryville. Only way I can link this, from what I can see is through email. I’ll try to work this out.

i worry about those so wrapped up in their hatred of hrc that they would vote for anyone, even st john the torturer, rather than her.

And the other way also..The GF has obliquely asked around at work and the “boomer” women are really pissed and say they will vote for McCain. I am watching the DNC in a slow motion train wreck and it is giving me stomach pains.

I’ve heard the same thing the GF has … and it’s more of a circular firing squad

Ah, but you describe my friend to a T. He is historically a R, family owned mfg bus. 82 years old. He simply thinks Obama’s too naive to run the country. I share his opinion on that. However, what I have learned in the last couple of days is that McCain knows nothing. That’s what I hope to convey.

Steve, were you in Little Rock in the late 70’s when we got 13″ in a single morning? Now that was a flood!

No..late ‘81.just in time for Bill’s second go at being Governor and Hillary’s dad having chest pain.

You probably cannot tell, but the interesting thing about the Kings is it runs due north.

Oh,yes. Not unlike the basic premise behind the Army Corps of Engineers.
” Nature is NOT going to fucking dominate ME .”
Love the song, though I can only listen to it from memory…!!
Dial-up teaches us that patience is a virtue. Dial-up teaches us that we don’t need intellectual candy. Or awesome media on the March 19th events.

Well good luck … i share the opinion too, i keep telling myself no more rightwing appointments to the supreme court and muddle forward.

as long as you don’t engage in personal attacks on fellow comments, no assassination fantasies or wishes for any kind of death to anyone, no walking into jane’s place and wiping the dogshit off your boots on her drapes kinda stuff and you should be fine.

civil discourse is encouraged - emphasis on civil.

I know this comes from a biased source, but I seriously feel that the Clinton supporters will get over it. I seriously doubt that the Obama supporters will, if denied the nomination with the pledged delegate lead.

But politics ain’t beanball, as HRC has demonstrated quite effectively from a position of weakness.

jumped back in to drop the original link to the huffpo story on Hillary over at mother jones

Understood that it is still a problem but i was referring to Wright’s generation and as to why the mistrust and anger are still there, that was all (honest) *g*

Anyways, it looks to be real nice terrain all around, can’t link it though. Good luck with the floods, keep dry.

Safe wishes, ES.

What’s important to your girlfriend’s co-workers that might be threatened by a McCain win?
Do they have grandchildren that would possibly go to war?
Do they have children/grandchildren who don’t have health care, because we’re at war, endless war?

Which candidate is more likely to put their kids in a horrible war?
Which one is more likely to use money for helping get affordable medical care and not try to mess with their SS?

I think your point has been made, several times tonight in fact.
And I would hazard to you that Senator Clinton’s supporters skin thickness isn’t the measure of whether repeated postings of the same link is germane.

We got your drift.

You probably cannot tell, but the interesting thing about the Kings is it runs due north.

That is unusual, the only other that I can think of is the Red River in Mn that drains into Canada.

I did not engage in personal attacks. I did not use bad language. I did not receive an email as to the fact that I was banned or to the reason I was banned. I did not receive a reply to my email inquiring as to the reason of the banning.

Like I said, it’s a playpen, but they can’t throw the bad children out of it fast enough to keep up with the anti-HRC posts.

Thanks to you both.

See 75.

IIRC, the White, Kings, and Buffalo all begin on Mount Magazine.

I agree, McCain will take the country over the cliff.

Like I said, we got your point, several times tonight.
There are few fools here. We all read pretty well.

i was not talking about over mydd and how they do things there - we discourage bashing other blogs policies here- i was talking about how the lake likes things here.

Dont think it’ll be that diffucult. He voted for Clinton twice, not sure about Gore v. Bush but am sure he voted for Kerrey in 04. He’s a military history nut, so has affinity for McCain from that POV. But when I tell him about McCain’s narrowly focused military tactical approach to foreign policy, McCain’s bomb bomb bomb Iran, McCain’s five crashed U.S. planes & history of acting out, don’t think I’ll have a hard time to convince him to vote for anyone but. And that’s before we even get to the economic issues, like McCain thinks spending $100+ billion per year in Iraq is just fine as long as no US soldiers get killed. My friend is a big believer in spending on infrastructure, especially trains (esp freight) for economic efficiency, and that just ain’t on the R agenda.

Yes, I know.

Did anyone see the Martha Radditz interview with Cheney today? A snippet was on ABC news world reports tonight and really…I had to immediately shut off the tube before I blew a gasket.

wow, I drove thru Eureka Springs once, back in 1987

well, twice, actually, coming and going, as it was (Granddaddy lived near Bergman)

the Ozarks are great, the scenery is beautiful, but your weather sucks

I flew outta Springfield Missouri once (and BOY were my arms tired), the sky was clear, there was no wind, and it was 17 degrees, at noon. Arrived at SFO at 5 pm, it was cloudy, raining, and 64 degrees outside

I’ll never leave Cali againjust wanted to say HIGH

and I hope things get better for you

if not, it was about 75 degrees and SUNNY today in my part of Cali, jus sayin, is all

well, good luck, i’m off for the night

Plenty of rivers run north. Nile is best know. Right on my property line is Wallkill, a tributary of the Hudson. Ditto Roundout creek. St Lawrence. You get the drift.

I have been out drinking rum and coke and other ignighted thangs so I cannot claim to be sober or unbiased but . . . . . what was I talking about . . .oh yea… I loves me some Nweton er whatevah

hi spidey

It’s generally fairly high humidity around these parts, but I do like the fact all four seasons are about three months in duration.

Eel in CA?

Dearest Mary - what I wouldn’t give to feel like that right now!
Kisses back!

hey mary (laughing)

Ugh. ABC was on a particularly bad roll today.

hey kirk

I am self employed and can call in “I ain’t coming ta work taday cause I don’t wanna.” That is why I am poor.

i’m proud to say i have blocked ABC on my comcast cable box since the spocko’s brain mess. i checked and comcast does in fact report back statistics indicating to each channel owner how many households block via parental controls.

geez…I thought Brian Ross had more class than that…but did anyone see that clip of cheney flipping off Martha Radditz ’s question? It must be on youtube, you gotta see it.

his ’so and no’ comment? saw it on KO tonight, spidey

Way cool. How do I block the religious channels & report back. Sounds delicious.

Good to know. Wish I was using a cable box.

**Applause** Now if we could just elect enough congress critters with the cahones to help us not be forced to pay for those we choose not to watch.

i was down paying my bill and just innocently happened to ask ‘if i block all abc and disney and espn channels is it reported back to abc (who owes em) - clerk said yes, all parental control blocks are reported back to the channels.

i happy danced out of the office.

Plenty of rivers run north. Nile is best know. Right on my property line is Wallkill, a tributary of the Hudson. Ditto Roundout creek. St Lawrence. You get the drift.

You are right..foot meet mouth..I have been on the Nile several times, watching the boat fight the current going South.

cheney is aggressively arrogant…can’t wait to see him walk out the door…if indeed he can still walk by then

Good for you. Hopefully the next administration will install an FCC that forces ala carte service.

I suspect there’s some sort of Northerm Hemisphere cultural bias going on against northbound rivers. Suspect that if you catalogued rivers by size & direction, no pattern would emerge. (Amazon runs east.) But it’s just a thought.

Here’s a clip of that:
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/....._0319.html