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	<title>Comments on: Monday Late Nite:  It&#8217;s Raining CEOs!</title>
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		<title>By: prostratedragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/17/monday-late-nite-its-raining-ceos/#comment-1341861</link>
		<dc:creator>prostratedragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 05:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;No one owns the loan. It’s “serviced” as part of a sliced-and-diced financial instrument, pieced out into the financial markets. There’s no lender to call and ask forgiveness of. The servicer has no authority to work out a deal with the borrower (homeowner).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Actually I’m not sure this is really the case so far as negotiating to keep a loan performing is concerned. However, I’d need to review one or two of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://calculatedrisk.blogspot.com/2007/07/compleat-ubernerd.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tanta UberNerd posts&lt;/a&gt; to know for sure. But my recollection is that the owner of the servicing rights can make some deals with borrowers, which could be enough to keep some of them from defaulting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, many banks and such do still have some mortgages on their own books, e.g. Countrywide for sure, etc. They (as a class, not each bank necessarily) always did keep some for portfolio reasons of one kind or other; and the breakdown last year of non-Fannie/Freddie securitization also meant that banks are just plain stuck with loans they hadn’t expected to have.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yet many banks reportedly have been as resistant as servicers to negotiate with borrowers. Some of the weak “Hope” this and that initiatives from the Treasury Dept. have really been directed toward getting banks to deal on at least those accounts that they do hold, and that are likely to fit into a new-standard refinance, so presumably such deals had not been getting made before.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, there is Bernanke’s call a couple of weeks ago for lenders to get started on the inevitable business of writing down the principle value of troubled loans, where the problem is the underwater borrower who can reasonbly be expected to perform in a loan that reflects current values. That, too, suggests that banks have been sluggish even in doing what they clearly have contractual rights (some would say obligations) to do.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think some of this has been strategic, maybe some kind of high-concept game of chicken some bankers have been trying to play with sources of public money like the Fed, Federal Home Loan Banks, Congress, state legislatures, … to avoid having to write  down what they’re still holding. I think it has backfired in that none of these entities has really played along, maybe because the problem is so much larger than their standard funds.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>No one owns the loan. It’s “serviced” as part of a sliced-and-diced financial instrument, pieced out into the financial markets. There’s no lender to call and ask forgiveness of. The servicer has no authority to work out a deal with the borrower (homeowner).</p>
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<p>Actually I’m not sure this is really the case so far as negotiating to keep a loan performing is concerned. However, I’d need to review one or two of the <a href="http://calculatedrisk.blogspot.com/2007/07/compleat-ubernerd.html" rel="nofollow">Tanta UberNerd posts</a> to know for sure. But my recollection is that the owner of the servicing rights can make some deals with borrowers, which could be enough to keep some of them from defaulting.</p>
<p>Also, many banks and such do still have some mortgages on their own books, e.g. Countrywide for sure, etc. They (as a class, not each bank necessarily) always did keep some for portfolio reasons of one kind or other; and the breakdown last year of non-Fannie/Freddie securitization also meant that banks are just plain stuck with loans they hadn’t expected to have.</p>
<p>Yet many banks reportedly have been as resistant as servicers to negotiate with borrowers. Some of the weak “Hope” this and that initiatives from the Treasury Dept. have really been directed toward getting banks to deal on at least those accounts that they do hold, and that are likely to fit into a new-standard refinance, so presumably such deals had not been getting made before.</p>
<p>Also, there is Bernanke’s call a couple of weeks ago for lenders to get started on the inevitable business of writing down the principle value of troubled loans, where the problem is the underwater borrower who can reasonbly be expected to perform in a loan that reflects current values. That, too, suggests that banks have been sluggish even in doing what they clearly have contractual rights (some would say obligations) to do.</p>
<p>I think some of this has been strategic, maybe some kind of high-concept game of chicken some bankers have been trying to play with sources of public money like the Fed, Federal Home Loan Banks, Congress, state legislatures, … to avoid having to write  down what they’re still holding. I think it has backfired in that none of these entities has really played along, maybe because the problem is so much larger than their standard funds.</p>
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		<title>By: readerOfTeaLeaves</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/17/monday-late-nite-its-raining-ceos/#comment-1341857</link>
		<dc:creator>readerOfTeaLeaves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 05:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;On topic, check out Greg Palast’s latest: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gregpalast.com/elliot-spitzer-gets-nailed/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.gregpalast.com/elli.....ts-nailed/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How much is this bailout netting CEOs?&lt;br /&gt;
I hope it’s not as much as Palast implies.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On topic, check out Greg Palast’s latest: <a href="http://www.gregpalast.com/elliot-spitzer-gets-nailed/" rel="nofollow">http://www.gregpalast.com/elli&#8230;..ts-nailed/</a></p>
<p>How much is this bailout netting CEOs?<br />
I hope it’s not as much as Palast implies.</p>
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		<title>By: PaytonsOpa</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/17/monday-late-nite-its-raining-ceos/#comment-1341850</link>
		<dc:creator>PaytonsOpa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 05:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For what it’s worth I am not Payton I am Paytons Opa. Opa is a Dutch word for Grandfather. I am not Dutch I just lived in Holland for 3 years and fell in love with their culture.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it’s worth I am not Payton I am Paytons Opa. Opa is a Dutch word for Grandfather. I am not Dutch I just lived in Holland for 3 years and fell in love with their culture.</p>
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		<title>By: PaytonsOpa</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/17/monday-late-nite-its-raining-ceos/#comment-1341839</link>
		<dc:creator>PaytonsOpa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 05:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That makes sense. I wasn’t thinking that way probably because it doesn’t affect my schedule. How selfish of me. In an earlier respomse to you I mentioned a Michael Ruppert book “Crossing the Rubicon” or something like that. Forgive me if you have read it but if not I highly reccomend it. It explains a lot of what is happening now. Many people dismiss him as a nutty conspiracy theorist but his credentials are valid and his ideas ring true. Scary stuff. Iy is much worse than many of us can possibly imagine. There is so much disinformation out there that the truth gets hidden. Got to go now, sleep is calling. Thank you for your understanding. Together we may find the truth and the way. Peace out as the youngsters say.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That makes sense. I wasn’t thinking that way probably because it doesn’t affect my schedule. How selfish of me. In an earlier respomse to you I mentioned a Michael Ruppert book “Crossing the Rubicon” or something like that. Forgive me if you have read it but if not I highly reccomend it. It explains a lot of what is happening now. Many people dismiss him as a nutty conspiracy theorist but his credentials are valid and his ideas ring true. Scary stuff. Iy is much worse than many of us can possibly imagine. There is so much disinformation out there that the truth gets hidden. Got to go now, sleep is calling. Thank you for your understanding. Together we may find the truth and the way. Peace out as the youngsters say.</p>
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		<title>By: aliasofwestgate</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/17/monday-late-nite-its-raining-ceos/#comment-1341817</link>
		<dc:creator>aliasofwestgate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 05:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah newt. In terms of viewing ability a reair schedule works well like that.   The initial airing is still in the prime time slot for the East Coast. If it was knocked into something not IN that block of time, or off air entirely? I’d worry. Particularly in terms of how stations usually work. Granted, most stations haven’t aired things well for years, at least on the News channels. MSNBC seems to be playing by the old rules for the moment, which is good.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah newt. In terms of viewing ability a reair schedule works well like that.   The initial airing is still in the prime time slot for the East Coast. If it was knocked into something not IN that block of time, or off air entirely? I’d worry. Particularly in terms of how stations usually work. Granted, most stations haven’t aired things well for years, at least on the News channels. MSNBC seems to be playing by the old rules for the moment, which is good.</p>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/17/monday-late-nite-its-raining-ceos/#comment-1341813</link>
		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 05:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey Bro, no problem!!! ;&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;No, actually, I am just concerned that programming that counters the shows like Morning Joe and such which are Republican slanted, such as most notably Olbermann..not go the way of being shown between the obsessive “lockdown”, “prison”, “sexual predator” shows…and end up aired when the least amount of possible viewing public can listen to his views as opposed to what we are bombarded with 24/7 by the rest of the media.  I am for free media, not suppressed  media, which is where we are likely headed as November approaches.  Sigh.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bro, no problem!!! ;&gt;</p>
<p>No, actually, I am just concerned that programming that counters the shows like Morning Joe and such which are Republican slanted, such as most notably Olbermann..not go the way of being shown between the obsessive “lockdown”, “prison”, “sexual predator” shows…and end up aired when the least amount of possible viewing public can listen to his views as opposed to what we are bombarded with 24/7 by the rest of the media.  I am for free media, not suppressed  media, which is where we are likely headed as November approaches.  Sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/17/monday-late-nite-its-raining-ceos/#comment-1341809</link>
		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 05:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;ls-&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i see what you’re saying, &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;but i can’t picture ko being manipulated/mistreated/screwed without him throwing a punch…….or a kick…….or something.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and he isn’t, so far.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and he would be the one to know that, if he was. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;so, wait until his next new show, and you’ll have your answer.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ls-</p>
<p>i see what you’re saying, </p>
<p>but i can’t picture ko being manipulated/mistreated/screwed without him throwing a punch…….or a kick…….or something.</p>
<p>and he isn’t, so far.</p>
<p>and he would be the one to know that, if he was. </p>
<p>so, wait until his next new show, and you’ll have your answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Blub</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/17/monday-late-nite-its-raining-ceos/#comment-1341803</link>
		<dc:creator>Blub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 05:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yep.  Shrub protects his friends, I guess.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep.  Shrub protects his friends, I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: newtonusr</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/17/monday-late-nite-its-raining-ceos/#comment-1341799</link>
		<dc:creator>newtonusr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 05:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;KO&lt;br /&gt;
8pm (5pm pacific), 10pm (7pm Pacific), and 2am (11pm pacific).&lt;br /&gt;
I don’t see the problem… I see an additional airing, and I see his second show (missing by an hour) avoiding conflict with The Daily Show on the East coast.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KO<br />
8pm (5pm pacific), 10pm (7pm Pacific), and 2am (11pm pacific).<br />
I don’t see the problem… I see an additional airing, and I see his second show (missing by an hour) avoiding conflict with The Daily Show on the East coast.</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/17/monday-late-nite-its-raining-ceos/#comment-1341798</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 05:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;does that mean he maxed?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does that mean he maxed?</p>
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