From the New York Times:
James E. Cayne, Bear Stearns's former chief executive and one of its largest individual shareholders, will most likely walk away with a little more than $13.4 million, the value of his Bear stock holdings, according to James F. Redda & Associates. Those would have been worth $1.2 billion in January 2007, when Bear's stock was trading at a $171.51. Mr. Cayne has taken home more than $232 million in salary, bonus and other pay between 1993 and 2006, the time period for which there is publicly available data, according to Equilar, an as an executive compensation research firm.
Geez, I could certainly make do with $13.4 million after completely screwing up on the job.
Why are these people allowed to walk away with ANYTHING? After all, Cayne spent the last couple of years playing golf, smoking pot and playing bridge while his unsupervised underlings burned the company to the ground with their credit shell games. Behavior like this reeks of criminality of Enronian proportions. In a just world, he (along with the usual suspects in the crime-ridden Bush administration) would be stripped of all of his earthly posessions, including the clothes on his back, tarred and feathered, and sent out to the public square to beg for forgiveness from all the Bear Stearns employees and investors.
And I see I'm not the only one who thinks this way. So sayeth economist/blogger Brad DeLong, via TPM, on why the aptly initialed BS sold at $2 a share:
...Bear Stearns execs were unwilling to go into bankruptcy because of a various forms of criminal liability they would face -- and that everyone would be so pissed about the collateral damage of the bank's collapse that everyone would want to not only execute them but also have them drawn and quartered (in case you only know the phrase and not what it actually means: not pretty).
I have friends in the banking industry (gasp! - don't worry, they're the "little people") and they now live in fear for their jobs because of the cavalier attitude of schmucks like Cayne. Call me crazy, but reading about this subprime mortgage/credit mess, you'd think that we learned nary a thing from the Enron fiasco. How many more "private financial institutions" are going to get bailed out by the Fed before the American people get tired of paying for it?
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Happy St. Patrick’s Day peoples.
The only thing these vampires are deserving of, if not a stake, are a blindfold and one last cigarette.
Not a cigarette, they will kill you. Maybe just a blindfold.
“Hey, that’s MY racket!”
/Dick Cheney
Okay, but he’s got to be goven credit for smoking pot. Takes a real wild one for that.
James E. Cayne, Bear Stearns’s former chief executive and one of its largest individual shareholders, will most likely walk away with a little more than $13.4 million, the value of his Bear stock holdings, according to James F. Redda & Associates. Those would have been worth $1.2 billion in January 2007, when Bear’s stock was trading at a $171.51. Mr. Cayne has taken home more than $232 million in salary, bonus and other pay between 1993 and 2006, the time period for which there is publicly available data, according to Equilar, an as an executive compensation research firm.
Prick
It was planned to work this way. I saw it coming when I was refi-ing my home for the third.
(I am a selfish home owner who cashed in my equity to buy hot tubs, new cars and disneyland vacations. No wait-it was the medical bills.)
My comment from two threads back
I call it piercing the corporate veil. No corporation should have the rights of a legal person unless those at the top accept personal culpubility for their actions.
Corporations were formed as limited liability cooperatives for those too small to assume all the risk. Seems the individual assumes all the burdens while corporate officials skate.
Can you say EGO? “I am not like those guys. I’m a lot smarter.”
You know, you really do have to feel sorry for guys like Cayne. He probably bought a $120 million yacht for Christmas, has a jet and a few houses that were all paid for on loans against that $1.2 Billion paper. What’s he gonna do now?
Last Tuesday Jim Cramer was screaming ‘Bear Stearns is fine, don’t be silly’.
Priceless.
-G
I could use a federal bailout
boo hoo
h2o!
When I saw the title of this thread at the bottom of the last thread my first reaction was things got so bad CEO’s were jumping out of windows. Oh well no such luck.
Enronian encapsulates the Bush Administration.
I don’t think we should blame the entire collapse of Bear Stearns on pot-smoking. That way lies madness.
Watertiger, I think when people know the details, which the press (hopefully) will report, people will be pissed like never before.
They’ve got golden parachutes! Jumping doesn’t hurt them.
Leave James Cayne alone!
-G
You know I was being a bit snarky, don’t you?
But . . . he only took home $13.4 million. He might as well call it quits!
To answer the question at the end of your lovely post, WT: seven.
Then they will stop bailing out private investment banks, and the financial system will collapse. They will stop, though, not because the American people won’t stand for it any longer, but because the Fed is outta cash. And the Chinese will politely ask us to stop printing more.
LOL! make sure the mascara is properly smeared.
There is no free press.
Isn’t it amazing that it requires an MBA to screw up so badly. One would think a GED would qualify someone to run a business into the ground.
we just did a whisky toast in honor of st patty (man i am not a whiskey gal)
Yeeeowwww….!
For anyone that hasn’t gone into the weeds to understand CDOs, SIVs, CDOs squared and cubed, and how the pirates of Wall Street created this mess — the Kyle Bass subprime letter is a jaw dropping primer:
http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blo.....kyle-bass/
Nice tune! I have a copy of the original LP that he and the Clancys released, Rising of the Moon. Struggles against the oppressors of the people. That is one thing the little people have always had, the music. No one will sing songs lauding Donald Trump or George Bush.
Toast to St. Patrick’s day! WTF.
As Athenae says, we should ask
[Snip]
Read the whole thing here.
Oh I’m sure they have answers what this is SOOO different. But let’s see if anyone asks the questions. I’d like to hear the answers.
Heather Mills did better than he did today.
$1.2 billion would buy a heck of a lot more than that. Money’s out of reach in some foreign account.
Imagine trying to spend even $100 million. Where could you possibly put it?
I was warning back before Thanksgiving that Wall Street knew it ate the seed corn. Watching the Fed throw money at the problem like gasoline adds a sort of comic horror. I would hope that cooler heads would prevail, but as long as Bush is at the helm the economy will continue to fall into the abyss. Or in Dubya’s case, “son of abyss.”
Why would these pricks jump when the aholes in Washington will bail out their friends. They won’t jump, they’ll have to be pushed.
Great art can come from great suffering. Blues music for example.
OT: nasa tv is fab right now :D
I love Athenae.
I wonder were Ken Lay is actually living.
i still don’t understand how the secretary of the treasury can pass money to private companies without it going through congress…………..i don’t ’get’ it…………..
how many millions are we up to now? (rhetorical, you don’t have to answer)
how many million was it that schip needed? a drop in the hat.
these asshats make me sick.
Me too.
ijust let it touch the tip of my tongue and then poured the rest into mr wobb’s glass. i’m not trying to grow any hair on my chest
So I’m naive. One can hope. But I feel you brother. And we try to teach our children that there are consequences to bad behavior. Only at our level I guess. The right wing scoffed at Edwards saying that there are two Americas.
Was my first reaction this morning when I found out that the head of Ameritrade, the guy who invented the subprime mortgage, had died. Cause of death was “unknown”.
me three
Billions…trillions…millions…
Show me the books.
Didn’t think so.
We are being ripped off…
Hellowwwwww!
I’ll be performing at the Wall St Station tomorrow afternoon, If someone dropped $100 million in my guitar case I’m sure I could put it to good use.
I was being responsible with my money. Besides not even someone at Bear Stearns would lone against the presumed value, since that $1.2 B was not liquid and if it was to become liquid, then everyone else’s shares would be worth, oh, say $2.00 per share. :-D
Wooohaaatttt????
Holy shizzola!!
Too many coinkydinkies….
Dayem..
There may be two Americas now, but America is going to be Brazil in five years. I’m still looking at that Ford truck with the full camper on it.
I’ve spent many nights in a tent, but I sure as shit don’t want to live in one.
Maybe a whole new art form will be inspired from this. Bet you’re right.
I wonder too.
Natural Causes, FL.
When you are part of the powers that be it would be a piece of cake to be taken off of the grid.
what gives?
ckls at 30
thanks for the link
guess they can not list bad karma as a cause of death
hmmmm just gives me the creeps
He is going to be reincarnated as the lowest form of life on earth-a neocon.
Right…uh, huh…
Having said before on FDL that Jim Cramer is a professional shill for Wall Street Neurastheniacs, Jim’s advice to hold onto Bear Stern stock at $63 per share on March 11 progarm speaks volumes.
Bear Sterns stock sold for $2 per share on March 16 … five days later.
Oh, but you have such a different value system. Of course you could put it to good use. What if you were trying to spend it all on yourself? What could you possibly buy that would make you happier than, say $3,000,000 could buy?
These jackasses aren’t trying to spend it on anything worthwhile. They may get their groups together for a charity, but it’s not for charity. It’s for tax breaks. Sick, sick, sick.
Wow, everyone should be forced to read his letter. Holy crap.
so, now ken lay is elvis????????
rofl……..
Isn’t Dubai building a series of islands offshore?
-G
That’s a firing offense for someone in his line of work.
I wish Cramer’s obvious conflicts would be revealed. Too many people watch.
http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blo…..kyle-bass/
This letter.
Cayne also hired all”bridge bums” that asked as traders for the options market. His thinking was that the logic that made good bridge players made good traders too. There was some truth to that except as a group they were profoundly lazy and tended to be risk takers as in gamblers (hence the bum part). It was amusing to go down and see 30 guys playing very high stakes backgammon while the market was still open.
Hmmm.
You mean more than Palm Island?
Per Raw Story http://rawstory.com/news/2008/....._0317.html :
I heard him say that people should just “walk away” from their homes. He said that.
Who said that?
you tell me, man. Maybe too much rich food?
I got a “Not Found”…
love the cat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
as for bagpipes and melancholy and message– it all started as smoke signals, drumbeats, keening and wailing while the world never or could not listen, right?
brrr, umphhh, brrr.
“taps” by any other name……
keening.
paste again . paste again
Why would the banks choose to foreclose and end up with nothing as opposed to working with the lender to restructure the loans?
OT nasa tv hot . hot . hot !!!111
I’m planning a vacation there…
Ohhh, yeah, what if there is a Tsunami..from Mother Nature..hmmm…..maybe I’ll just go to the fence…of the property… Not. I’m not going somewhere where there are “repercussians” and all…ya know… volcanos and such..
when the loan is for more than the house is now worth…
The link is at #30. It’s a great letter.
The dead on the toilet Elvis.
http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blo.....kyle-bass/
jeep jeep, thank! I had missed that!
I’m so confused. Where are you going on vacation? Dubai? I’m kicking myself to the moon cuz I could have bought a condo there in 2001 for $82,000. $4000 down.
It has been this way since recorded history began. The few control the many. They use religion and sexuality and race to divide us. They try their hardest to stop any form of education that may reveal them and their schemes. They are so frightened it is sickening. There are enough resources on this planet to feed and clothe and shelter everyone. I have no idea what drives someone to want to have so much more than they can ever use. Is it something genetic? There are definitely defective units among our population. I worked for several years as a licensed Psychiatric Technician in a Forensic Hospital dealing with Sexually Violent Predators and they only recognize themselves as “human” no one else matters. It is the same mindset I see among the neocons. They recognize each other and understand each other but no one else exists. They have no capacity for empathy or compassion, it is a sign of weakness to them. I finally became so disgusted trying to mwork with them that I quit my job and gave up my license and I now work as a clerk in a convenience store and I am much happier. The same thing that drives these serial rapists and child molesters is evident in the behavior of these CEOs and neocon war mongering fucks. They need yo be identified and isolated from the rest of us forever.
No one owns the loan. It’s “serviced” as part of a sliced-and-diced financial instrument, pieced out into the financial markets. There’s no lender to call and ask forgiveness of. The servicer has no authority to work out a deal with the borrower (homeowner).
Dude should learn the value of rigorous paragraphing, though….
LOL Agreed. There should be a shit load of these asshole doing the perp walk right about now. The Fed is going to bail them all out, protecting them from bankruptcy and criminal prosecution.
I’m not going anywhere in reality…actually, I would not want to be anywhere other than where I am…(except excursions to the coast when I have the opportunity)…I like where I am…for once in my life.
Here’s my question: exactly what does this mean (from this mornings’s NYT):
Can you say “Nationalization”?
and let all the regular folk lose everything while the Fed does nothing. oh wait, all their troubles will be fixed with that $600 check. praise jeebus for that.
Hmm. Maybe you actually lucked out by not buying there….Dubai is really intriguing…but ultimately it is an illusion.
watertiger at 85
well, i guess he didn’t leave the building……..
what’s pathetic is that the “money people” are all talking about a second and third quarter stimulus.
Like those checks are going to go back into the market? No, they’re going to pay off credit card debt, mortgages, student loans, rent…
That is the core at what is going on…covering the tracks by slicing and dicing the “evidence”….
It reminds me of carving up a corpse and distributing it all over the place…
Yet, the evidence is still discoverable.
i think the money people should share with the rest of us whatever it is they are smoking that makes them so upbeat.
LOL
seversl years ago i heard a program on New Dimensions Radio with a guy talking about how just about any one who reaches the level of CFO, CEO etc… is in some ways a sociopath. can’t remember his name only that he was a teaching physician a UCSF or USF Med Ctr. and that he has written several books.
good evening dear friends.
how ya feeling tex? everything go ok?
The fed is bailing out the banks, I haven’t heard of them helping one actual person from losing their house.
There is a documentary floating around called “The Corporation” that illustrates exactly that point. Corporations act in a totally sociopathic manner.
No Olberman rerrun tonight…what is up with that? Do they think we don’t notice??? I guess so…just San Quentin shizzola…
Can you say squeeze?????
‘xactly!
everything went fine except for my plans to nap all afternoon when i returned home. tree trimmers with electric saws took care of that. pain is manageable. not too half-brained anymore.
was rerun at 7pm ca time. i think they have switched out some of their schedule. my cable shows another rerun at 11pm tonight.
they changed the rerun times
They changed the KO rerun schedule! I don’t know the details but I think it reruns at 10PM and then again some other time.
a wise woman once said its always something
glad you are doing ok
MSNBC changed his re-air times, 7pm, 11pm pacific.
Do you really think it was wise of you to be trimming trees? :)
Good to hear you are doing well.
I am not even allowed to climb stairs without another adult present, for a full 24 hrs. Or drive or sign contracts.
Keith said he’s going uptown. He’ll have countdown at (I believe) 11:00 pm and 2:00 AM.
Why is MSNBC obsessed with shows that are about incarcination all weekend?
Why are we inundated by shows about imprisoning people?
Why is MSNBC obsessed with sex “crimes”.
What is wrong with these people?
This is serious!
Good question. The prisoners are all so repentant. I liked it for the first few times I saw it years ago, but this is getting icky.