Comments on: Memo to Michele Hirshman: You May Have Mike Garcia Between a Rock and a Hard Place

By: jawbone

jawbone — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:10:47 +0000

I had not known about the Bruno connection–altho’ Roger Stone could just be posturing, claiming a “kill” when he actually had nothing to do with taking Sptizer down.

But, now these stories about Paterson’s affairs coming out, with the hint that one of his affairs when he and his wife were having problems was with a staffer has already raised questions about misconduct and sexeual harrassment on MSNBC at least. The affairs? No problem. The possible misconduct? Did Bruno know about these peccadilloes before going ballistic on Sptizer?

Can Joe Bruno resist impeaching Paterson and gaining the governorship of NY???

Pure conjecture, but I put nothing beyond reThugs.

By: BooRadley

BooRadley — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:42:28 +0000

If there is any prosecutorial hanky panky, he is in a position to one last great act of civil service for his state and his country–which would be to expose that prosecutorial misconduct if it exists.

lhp, imho the real story here is that FBI and DoJ resources dedicated to the GWOT were used to trail high priced hookers for at least two years. If I’m at the FBI or DoJ, I’m asking myself, do I want to spend my day chasing armed and dangerous Islamofascists or chasing high priced hookers. IMHO, this is about a government boondoggle with ~~hate that word~~ Homeland security. Once they figured it was whores, they should have turned it over to New York state.

FWIW, I thought all those Mike Nifong-like leaks to the press sure qualified as massive prosecutorial misconduct. They could have just named him in the filing against the Emperor’s club and left the rest to our imagination. The fact that they went so far beyond that, to me, shows how deeply his political enemies were invested. IMHO, they wanted a male whore or a something kinky, that they could get on tape. The fact that they got neither, again imho, really pissed them off. The fact that they went into such extreme and unnecessary detail (as Christy and you pointed out about the “difficult” customer part (which Kristin demolished on the tapes)) simply confirms to me what the agenda was.

By: serge

serge — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:06:37 +0000

When David Vitter experiences the same condemnations, I’ll get medieval on Gov. Spitzer’s ass. Until then, fuck the hypocrites.

By: looseheadprop

looseheadprop — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:33:37 +0000

Which is how it is usually used.

By: mui1

mui1 — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:08:18 +0000

But my point is why waste so much money on “Spitzer’s a John to a fancy adult escort agency.” (My answer is really? He and how many other politicos?) I mean was going after “johns” the original intent of the Mann Act? Isn’t money much better spent going after organized crime human trafficking and prostitution rings?

By: looseheadprop

looseheadprop — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:03:01 +0000

Just to be clear, I think they have him cold under the Mann Act.

His conduct, IMHO, clearly makes out all the elements of the crime under that statute. It’s just that ordinarily the statute is not used for situtations involving consensual immoral activeity between adults.

By: mui1

mui1 — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:48:33 +0000

If there is any prosecutorial hanky panky, he is in a position to one last great act of civil service for his state and his country–which would be to expose that prosecutorial misconduct if it exists.

I hope they do expose any prosecutorial misconduct.

By: mui1

mui1 — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:39:36 +0000

LHP, I am so grateful for your posts. What a sanity outlet. People on ground seem to think Spitzer “broke the law, what a jerk.” Then there is the E-channel news of the “other woman.” I have to try and explain that I am not defending prostitution, Johns or even Spitzer persay. My objection is to a “hit” on an elected Dem official, and the principle of the thing. If the USAttorney is fudging his reasons for using the money laundering act or the BSA on Spitzer, so much the worse. If there are rethuglican political operatives involved, it positively stinks. And then there is the Mann act. If this is generally used on human trafficking and pedophiles-cross-state as you wirte, then it seems the law is being bent and distorted and tax payer resources are being used that should be used for say, Mafia, and not for political hits. ARGHH! Disinfectant should be applied to the DOJ, not Eliot Spitzer.

By: looseheadprop

looseheadprop — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:39:11 +0000

I agree with that. But do we know when in the timeline that happened? You see, if it came AFTER the investigation was already underway…..? Which I don’t know.

By: looseheadprop

looseheadprop — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:31:43 +0000

If he can be induced to continue to fight, the dog may yet bark.

You bring up a very intriging point. Spitzer has the legal team (Michele Hirshman is lawyer’s lawyer–for me, she is an icon), the savvy and the money to take this fight to the gov’t.

If there is any prosecutorial hanky panky, he is in a position to one last great act of civil service for his state and his country–which would be to expose that prosecutorial misconduct if it exists.

Hey, it might even get him a second act in politics.