Comments on: America’s War on Terror in the Time of Technology http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/16/americas-war-on-terror-in-the-time-of-technology/ Firedoglake weblog Sat, 28 Nov 2009 15:05:56 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: leftdcin72 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/16/americas-war-on-terror-in-the-time-of-technology/#comment-1339365 leftdcin72 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 02:35:47 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/16/americas-war-on-terror-in-the-time-of-technology/#comment-1339365 <p>you are not paying attention</p> you are not paying attention

]]> By: bigbrother http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/16/americas-war-on-terror-in-the-time-of-technology/#comment-1338867 bigbrother Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:06:10 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/16/americas-war-on-terror-in-the-time-of-technology/#comment-1338867 <p>Ironically they were making mincemeat out of the Clintons during the Impeachment proceedings…they have zero principals…it is election time in America the daggers are stabbing and labels are printed in hope that they will stick…what liberal media? Where is the Impeachment proceedings today? Please compare the crimes of Bush to any other president</p> Ironically they were making mincemeat out of the Clintons during the Impeachment proceedings…they have zero principals…it is election time in America the daggers are stabbing and labels are printed in hope that they will stick…what liberal media? Where is the Impeachment proceedings today? Please compare the crimes of Bush to any other president

]]> By: selise http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/16/americas-war-on-terror-in-the-time-of-technology/#comment-1338693 selise Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:58:16 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/16/americas-war-on-terror-in-the-time-of-technology/#comment-1338693 <blockquote><p>9/11 created a rationale for the construction of the surveillance state. Has this state made us safer? No, but that very fact is used to justify more surveillance, not less. If you believe the argument though, for us to be completely safe our lives must be completely surveilled all the time. What this idea does not take into account or deceptively leaves out is who protects us from our protectors? The Founders understood this danger 200 years ago and wrote the 4th Amendment. What does it say about us that we have largely unlearned it in less than 7 years?</p></blockquote> <p>does no one read Watership Down as kids anymore? </p> <p>(google the character cowslip if you don’t know what i’m talking about).</p>

9/11 created a rationale for the construction of the surveillance state. Has this state made us safer? No, but that very fact is used to justify more surveillance, not less. If you believe the argument though, for us to be completely safe our lives must be completely surveilled all the time. What this idea does not take into account or deceptively leaves out is who protects us from our protectors? The Founders understood this danger 200 years ago and wrote the 4th Amendment. What does it say about us that we have largely unlearned it in less than 7 years?

does no one read Watership Down as kids anymore?

(google the character cowslip if you don’t know what i’m talking about).

]]> By: nonplussed http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/16/americas-war-on-terror-in-the-time-of-technology/#comment-1338654 nonplussed Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:41:56 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/16/americas-war-on-terror-in-the-time-of-technology/#comment-1338654 <p>This book describes an incident of interest. ‘The Detonators’: A Nearly Forgotten <a href="http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5587197" rel="nofollow">New York Attack</a></p> <p>Saboeurs blew up Ammo Dump in 1916 at <a href="http://www.njcu.edu/programs/jchistory/Pages/B_Pages/Black_Tom_Explosion.htm" rel="nofollow">Black Tom Island, NJ</a></p> This book describes an incident of interest. ‘The Detonators’: A Nearly Forgotten New York Attack

Saboeurs blew up Ammo Dump in 1916 at Black Tom Island, NJ

]]> By: GregB http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/16/americas-war-on-terror-in-the-time-of-technology/#comment-1338642 GregB Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:34:57 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/16/americas-war-on-terror-in-the-time-of-technology/#comment-1338642 <p>No felon left behind.</p> <p>-G</p> No felon left behind.

-G

]]> By: sporkovat http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/16/americas-war-on-terror-in-the-time-of-technology/#comment-1338619 sporkovat Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:24:25 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/16/americas-war-on-terror-in-the-time-of-technology/#comment-1338619 <p>amen to tw3k at 107.</p> <p>this is like extolling the virtues of Coke over Pepsi. Different flavors of high fructose corn syrup.</p> <p>Imperialism breeds blowback, so end the imperialism and trade with the world without coercion and slaughter.</p> <p>not an option when your range of thought only encompasses Coke vs Pepsi, even if Obama is the New Coke, with a new, refreshing taste of ‘Change!’</p> amen to tw3k at 107.

this is like extolling the virtues of Coke over Pepsi. Different flavors of high fructose corn syrup.

Imperialism breeds blowback, so end the imperialism and trade with the world without coercion and slaughter.

not an option when your range of thought only encompasses Coke vs Pepsi, even if Obama is the New Coke, with a new, refreshing taste of ‘Change!’

]]> By: dmac http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/16/americas-war-on-terror-in-the-time-of-technology/#comment-1338614 dmac Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:20:36 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/16/americas-war-on-terror-in-the-time-of-technology/#comment-1338614 <p>biodun, great post-</p> <p>even with all this ’advanced’ technology for the ’new’ types of warfare/weapons, you still gotta have a person to pull the trigger, shove the knife, etc…….even drones have to have a human to push the button……..</p> <p>so some things don’t change no matter how advanced it gets……..still gotta have a human being to do it.</p> <p>they were scanning people right after 911 on the staten island ferry..right when people were just starting to go places again……..at the time, i couldn’t understand why noone was saying anything about it….they already had the equipment ready and trotted it on out while people were still in shock, and willing to do it…..don’t know if they still are or not, would like to know.</p> <p>and some driver’s licenses have a ’chip’ in them already.</p> <p>and i didn’t know that some of the hijackers were living in/around delray beach, florida…….i spent some time there, few years ago, loved it there. was visiting a friend in boynton beach.</p> biodun, great post-

even with all this ’advanced’ technology for the ’new’ types of warfare/weapons, you still gotta have a person to pull the trigger, shove the knife, etc…….even drones have to have a human to push the button……..

so some things don’t change no matter how advanced it gets……..still gotta have a human being to do it.

they were scanning people right after 911 on the staten island ferry..right when people were just starting to go places again……..at the time, i couldn’t understand why noone was saying anything about it….they already had the equipment ready and trotted it on out while people were still in shock, and willing to do it…..don’t know if they still are or not, would like to know.

and some driver’s licenses have a ’chip’ in them already.

and i didn’t know that some of the hijackers were living in/around delray beach, florida…….i spent some time there, few years ago, loved it there. was visiting a friend in boynton beach.

]]> By: hackworth http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/16/americas-war-on-terror-in-the-time-of-technology/#comment-1338585 hackworth Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:12:59 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/16/americas-war-on-terror-in-the-time-of-technology/#comment-1338585 <p>Rove’s rant is typically beset with line after line of lies, false dichotomies, non-sequitors and rapid fire repetition of Newt’s Republican smear words. Rove should be in prison, instead he writes op-eds for the WSJ. Is America a great country or what?</p> Rove’s rant is typically beset with line after line of lies, false dichotomies, non-sequitors and rapid fire repetition of Newt’s Republican smear words. Rove should be in prison, instead he writes op-eds for the WSJ. Is America a great country or what?

]]> By: nomolos http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/16/americas-war-on-terror-in-the-time-of-technology/#comment-1338573 nomolos Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:02:40 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/16/americas-war-on-terror-in-the-time-of-technology/#comment-1338573 <p>I know I was just feeling snarky with this damn snow outside.</p> <p>Good post. Thanks</p> I know I was just feeling snarky with this damn snow outside.

Good post. Thanks

]]> By: ironranger http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/16/americas-war-on-terror-in-the-time-of-technology/#comment-1338571 ironranger Sun, 16 Mar 2008 19:01:58 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/16/americas-war-on-terror-in-the-time-of-technology/#comment-1338571 <p>I am wondering how the very staunch Clinton supporters will react or respond to the rove oped offering advice to Clinton & McCain.</p> I am wondering how the very staunch Clinton supporters will react or respond to the rove oped offering advice to Clinton & McCain.

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