yo

yowy zowy zed

well, almost

Big w00t for the House!!!111

Now we get to take on Jello Jay and his band of corporate apologists.

Finally…

protest votes from progressives? WTF?

ill bake the cookies!!!!!

Outstanding Jane…this is good news to report to my crew!

Yay!

Well, we’ll see what happens in a couple weeks when the Senate reconvenes. Maybe Harry will grow a set now that he sees the House didn’t back down.

Maybe, just maybe, they saw Obama’s coattails in the Foster vote. Maybe they saw the writing on the wall…

Jane,
Sorry, but I don’t understand what you mean that some progressives voted nay as a protest vote?

never thought i’d say this, really
but nancy pelosi kicked ass today when she got up and refuted the repugs constant accusations of antipatriotism. She was so pissed she was choking. It was really thrilling. didin’t think she had it in her.

just goes to show…

Remember the prescient words of Bill Cosby (before you party too hard): “there’s always room for Jello.”

hot diggety!

I’m just coming off a four-day drunk, thanks to Ferraro and Spitzer (yeah, yeah, I admit, it was just a pity-party to drown my sorrows), so I’m sobering up for a day or two, but…

If we ever do manage to strip immunity from the FISA bill to the point it becomes the law of the land,

then I’m gonna go on a bender like you ain’t never seen.

Yay, yay, yeah! I’m so happy I could shout with joy! When will we be able to see who flipped and who didn’t? I went to Roll Call, but the last thing posted is vote 00085, S Con Res. 70.

Looks like just about everything has backfired on the Republicans. From ‘the new world order’ to the economy.

good news for a change

It’s the dawning of a new time. Vote Democratic. Vote Obama.

“But again, if there is a merit to having a closed session that is worth pushing back consideration of the bill, let’s hear what their purpose is,” she said.

Secret sessions were common in the early 1800s, but the House has held only three since 1830, not counting Thursday’s, according to the Congressional Research Service. The third was in 1983, to discuss U.S. support for efforts to overthrow the government of Nicaragua.
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Rep. David Obey, a veteran Wisconsin Democrat, said he took part in that session and the two previous ones, in 1979 and 1980.

“And I think the great utility of having another one, given the mumbo-jumbo I heard in the last three, is to demonstrate the almost total uselessness of secret sessions,” he said

Just flyin’ by to note props to Schumer who actually made a powerful point in what’s wrong with Bushlogic. That credit works when people have confidence that what they’re buying will have value. Something everybody can understand…

loosely translated, ‘merika realizes when they bought Bush, he drove ‘em off the road and into the ditch because he’s a lemon…and there ain’t no hope for lemonade by staying behind his wheel.

And here Jane reports this great news about the immunity obfuscation failure.

Boo-yah! A two-fer today!

dont tell BO

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh BO is a muslim spy/

nobody (at last 70% or more of nobodies) believes bush about anything.

Eveyone knows this is a cover-my-ass proposal for illegal acts by BUSHCo. Even some of the telecoms say as much.

start the grinder and eat this chimperer up.

unfortunate initials, BO

Glad to see that we are going to give the fighting Dems lots of carrots to go along with the sticks we sometimes take to whipping them with.

They deserve monster coverage of every brave word or act taken today (or the last few days) to acheive this result. We should go over their words and actions with the same level of positive scrutiny we so often use to nagatively parse every craven theing they do.

So, let the revelling in their achievemtn begin and let’s make sure we don’t forget to thank them each and all.

I didn’t see the debate, but somebody on EW’s thread said Pelosi really kicked ass. As someone who has never hesitiated to give Nancy a hard time when I thoguht she deserved it, let me take a moment to say:

Congratulations, Madame Speaker, for holding your voting block together and for such a worthy cause and thank you for all the hard work and effort I am sure went into this achievement!

Pentagon announces al-Qaeda capture. Hmmmmm. The stench of contrived shiny objectism permeates the press. Wonder how long they’ve had this guy tucked away to pop out when they need to deflect from things like Bush’s dismal speech at the NY Economics club and this vote?

Pressure works.

that poster was saying unkind things aboutBO…on the last thread

Don’t forget to thank Steny Hoyer. He gave a passionate speech on the floor for our constitution at the close.

Just maybe Bush’s veto threat urged some to challenge him. Most people hate to be threatened. At some point you just fight the bully.

And, many thanks to Jane and Christy for staying on top of FISA, keeping us well informed and making tools available to us to give Congress a nudge. It’s an honor to serve.

Hooray! My phone calls today were not in vain!

So what’s next? How long til this bill is just dead?

Oh, yeah.

Number 3 #27 ?

I wonder where President McCain will stand on privacy and domestic snooping?

Wow, what a perfect example of politics and policy colliding. The policy choice may be self-evident, but until the politics overtake the issue, nothing can/will happen/change.

‘Tis but a battle won, the war still rages.

yes he truly rose to the occaison

As an American who has had to spend hours (and HOURS!!) tracking down messes related to identity fraud, I have deep and passionate regard for privacy, and for the protection of personal information.

I never thought the Dems would actually come through.
I never thought that I’d learn so much about a law that I’d never heard of before last year (FISA).

Very grateful to FDL, EW, Glenzilla, and all involved.
I tip my hat to you all; thank you very, very much.

hahaha…can you imagine how much he has been subjected to?

Glad to see that we are going to give the fighting Dems lots of carrots to go along with the sticks we sometimes take to whipping them with.

They deserve monster coverage of every brave word or act taken today (or the last few days) to acheive this result. We should go over their words and actions with the same level of positive scrutiny we so often use to nagatively parse every craven theing they do.

So, let the revelling in their achievemtn begin and let’s make sure we don’t forget to thank them each and all.

Yes to that. Call that a good way to spend a Friday afternoon - attaboy phonecalls.

You could not have chosen a better video to illustrate the post! I thought I was the only one who posted Wanda Jackson.

amen!

Well spoken!

I was really proud of Nancy Pelosi, and Jane Harmon wasn’t too shabby either.

I imagine there’s some serious stomping about the White House this afternoon - on the chimpy’s part; and some white knuckling of a scotch glass on the big dick’s part.

If it weren’t real, hearing Bush on the economy would be a hoot. One comedic statement after the other of which he had no idea of what he spoke.

Thanks Jane for the report.

Thank you Madame Speaker and all of the House Dems that stood for the rule of law and the Constitution today.

Thanks to all the firepups who live blogged the debate also. (I am at work)

yellowsnapdragon March 14th, 2008 at 11:29 am
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unfortunate initials, BO

People seem to be going with ‘BHO’, instead.

Lahoma and I have the afternoon off. Big pep rally at our school. We rarely go to them. My lady has just paid me an exterme compliment. She tells me I am in her view, the left-wing version of John Wayne.

Kudos to Jane, Christy, Marcy and all the gang. Bmaz-ing performance. Thank you.

I’m sorry, looseheadprop, but you used the word “monster” in your post, so you are fired, regardless of whether the term “monster” was appropriate.

heh just tuning in. Is that what the silly adolecents on the dark side are calling him?

“The Patriot Act”. What was that all about?

No, she’s an “unofficial” adviser. Karl Rove doesn’t get fired by McCan’t just because all he learned about “the truth” he learned from George Bush.

You two are so cute. I just love it.

New Topic: what’s for dinner tonight? *g*

I shall celebrate the victory and get ready for the next round which I’m sure will be nastier. What I would give to be a little mouse in the corner of Darth’s office and shrub’s playroom! Bet there’s a lot of f… words bouncing off the walls. Humph!

yay! and congrats to the blogosphere and the citizens for keeping the dems’ feet to the fire.

i am no fan of Steny Hoyer (far from it) but I loved his response to the reThugs calls for bipartisanship. He really deserves appreciation for that.

Bushbaby will be even more petulant at his next no-question Press Conference.

And no one will care.

Dead Duck.

oddly enough Capuano (D-MA) voted no. Is that a protest vote?

The praise for the crew was so heady I completely dropped the ball, lost my train of thought. LHD and others are a big part of why this blog is so effective in helping us understand and respond to critical issues the MSM refuses to cover. Thanks to all.

O/T Aor Force has changed their logo to : Over All

Anyone else have the song, Deutschland, Deutschland ueber alles.

I love good news on a Friday. Heck anytime is fine, but it’s a nice way to end the week.

One small step for mankind!!!!!!!

any word on which Bush Dogs are going to get hit with robocalls yet for their disgraceful FISA vote?
please let it be carney.

I suppose kucinich’es “nay” vote was a protest?

could you enlighten me on this reasoning, what if the vote failed, his protest would have helped the president

Hi folks, just flying low over the lake right now to say…

Wahoo!!!

Best Wishes to Jane and the rest of you pups on a some really good news…

Hey, what better way to start a weekend!!!

Let’s Party!!!

OT but I have to comment that the day shrub talks about the economy at length the markets take another dive and the steepest drops occurred right after his talk.

Bush urges patience on economy

AP - President Bush preached optimism and Republican orthodoxy of minimalist government intervention Friday as the best approach to an increasingly troubled economy.

“Minimalist government intervention”? Oh yes. Like in FISA perhaps?

I doubt he would have voted nay if the bill was going to fail.

He and Nance finally spoke a little truth to power today. They don’t often seem to do that in public. Perhaps they now read FDL, or can’t get at their e-mail because of all our messages. Don’t care: one small step for Democrats, one giant leap for democracy.

are you suggesting these might me related?

Here are the 12 Dems who voted “nay” (from the link at the top under the vote total):

Boren
Capuano
Carney
Cooper
Filner
Hinchey
Holden
Kucinich
Lampson
McDermott
Shuler
Welch (VT)

Deutchland uber alles

how could he have been certain?

and what point is he trying to make, I am lost right now

I don’t know yet. She hasn’t suggested (or inquired) what I might be hungry for tonight. So far. But that inquiry is coming. You can bet on it.

Kucinich also voted no on the extension to the PAA, even though that would have helped the position of most Democrats. He’s been very consistent: anything that increases FISA beyond the original is bad.

As to whether Kucinich would’ve voted yes if his voted was “needed” … my prediction is he wouldn’t.

He’s a purist. Now that I think about it, he’s the photo negative of Bush.

Not voting:

GOP:
Boustany
Brown-Waite, Ginny
Everett
Hunter
LaHood
Musgrave
Nunes
Peterson (PA)
Pickering
Tancredo
Walsh (NY)
Weller
Young (AK)

Dems:
Cramer
Green, Gene
Hooley
Oberstar
Rangel
Rush
Woolsey

He’s a purist. Now that I think about it, he’s the photo negative of Bush.

tell me what he is protesting, what didn’t he like about the bill, what would he have preferred

Bingo! He was given this opportunity to vote his concscience. If he was needed to vote ‘Aye’, he would have.

I lived in germany for years, they don’t even sing certain verses because of the Nazis

Where was Charlie Rangel? Why no vote?

Welch voted no? He’s adamantly against immunity.

I’m thinking he may support Nader in November.

now I get it, he doesn’t want any further extension of fisa

I agree with that position

He would prefer the bill to read, “NO RETROACTIVE IMMUNITY FOR THE CRIMINAL TELECOMMUNICATIONS COMPANIES.”

what’s next? When will the Senate take this up?

Not taking it up is allowing it to die (not good for Ds since they will be held responsible, but good for Americans). If the Senate takes it up and aproves: Bush vetoes. If the Senate will not approve: back to square one. Either way the poison pill has worked.

My only worry is that Rs will exploit this and Ds don’t know how to play that game. [ Why can’t the Ds be running commercials - “The D House of Reps has passed two pieces of legislation to protect America and the WH has bullied Rs both times into stonewalling and stalling so that neither can pass. Pres Bush says protecting America is important, yet threatens to veto any bill we pass to protect America …” I realize they need lessons from Boehner (straight face, maybe a tear) in order to make it work

Kucinich not being on the Death to BlueDogs voting list (for reasons all his own voting his way), were all these, literally speaking, traitors the the Constitution and America on that list?

And what perris sed at 86

Woolsey is recovering from back surgery.

My high school anthem was to that tune. I never knew it until years later.

What’s the deal with the USAF? I noticed a new stylized emblem, but nothing about music.

Have you heard of King Midas? Well this is King Shitass - everything he touches turns to shit.

Isn’t the next round simply the Senate rolling over and going Bush’s Rockefeller’s way and sticking immunity back in and then, because the idiots in the House voted wrong, the House being stuck giving it an up-or-down vote?

Wow. Excellent news. The Constitution survives a while longer!

No idea, new way to get victims (oh, I mean recruits). It is very creepy though to have a slogan that simply reads, ABOVE ALL

I thot we heard “No” earlier, because they can’t amend an amendment. The House change was technically an amendment, wasn’t it?

JANE!

That was such a great song to Swing in the middle of the room to.

Thank you!

The AF is trying to be the masters of air, space, and cyberspace (how that fits into the very meat and potatoes of Air Force, I don’t know…perhaps they - we, as I am still in the AF as a reservist - should change our name to the United States Murderous Geek Force?).

So where do things stand now? Does it go to a conf committee or to Bush?

That’s off the hook!

great news.

Above All

Is this a god reference?

The Airforce has some pretty rabid end of timers.

Give Ms. Cbl my best, tell her I think of The Texas Tornados whenever I see her name. ;)

Are Rangel and Woolsey still on medical leave?

Can Bush add telcom immunity with a signing statement?

Into the air, Junior Birdmen
Into the air, pilots green!
Into the air, Junior Birdmen,
Climb into that old machine!
And when you hear that Franklin sputterin’
And you get your wings of tin
We will know the Junior Birdmen
Have sent their boxtops in!

While I don’t comment here (or anywhere) all that much, I have to say that these are the real “front lines” in our battle to save America and the Constitution. Unfortunately, there are plenty more hard fights ahead but today shows that we can make a difference. Makes me proud.

You guys rock!

It’s a lot easier to be rabid when your ass isn’t on the ground.

OT: Here’s a weird story about put options and Bear Sterns:

http://www.thestockmasters.com/node/404

They have also wrongly turned the Air Force Academy into an evangelical Christian institution.

I’m not fond of throwing the word “traitors” into the conversation lightly.

But yes, I do believe that with the exception of Kucinich, the others are Blue Dogs.

Working on the Senate is going to be some very hard work. Pressure. It means changing some minds.

I want to hear Dana Perino comment on this.

Kagro explains it all here.

I wrote to Leonard and told him NO More Checks from this Iowa Democrat unless the Constitution started being important. Sent him the quote from Mickey Edwards that Howie put up and told him to line up for the Constitution.

Ed Fallon is an insufferable self-righteous twit, but I’ll support him if Leonard doesn’t straighten up.

Thank You Representative Boswell. I think my phone calls and letters to his office may have helped. I like to think so anyway.:-)I had a nice conversation with one of his assistants yesterday and explained all of the concerns that have been enumerated and articulated here at the Lake. Thanks to Jane, Christy, et al. Keep up the great work.

That implies they have minds.

I don’t think you can add things with a signing statement. Just not do stuff. But we are talking about Mr. Iwilldoanythingiwantto.

Neither.

Technically speaking, the House amended the Senate’s amendment of a previous House bill. Thus, it goes back to the Senate for consideration — without possibility of a filibuster.

Kagro X is reasonably hopeful that this was a bit of legislative skill worked out between Nancy and Harry, to cut the power of the Senate GOP. We shall see.

Bush thinks he can add or subtract anything with the mere stroke of a pen. He will use the perfunctory, “I will interpret this law in view of my Article 2 powers as the supermysticalmagical unitary executive kingly Emperor!” That is, if he signed it. He will instead veto it as there is not enough votes in the House to override and the Senate is compromised vis a vis our liberty and Constitution and is essentially on the dark side already.

President????? McC…

Have you been smoking something?

There certainly won’t be a President McCain in my lifetime.

that doesn’t make sense for Capuano or Welch. And McDermott usually knows better. scratches head.

I want to hear her comment on how the Bush tax cuts are helping Bear Stearns.

I believe so.

Speaking of a party, in connection with the vid at the top. I have just been informed from upstairs about how I would feel about a small late evening card party tonight? And if I thought this was a good idea would I perhaps give some consideration to being the bartender? Of course, I now realize (even though I was not thinking about parties or cards) I was actually subconsciously wanting a card party tonight. And I will build the Margaritas, and serve the Mexican beer. Lahoma does the food and the clean-up. That’s the deal. And not incidentally, this will be a very politically balanced party. Five Democrats, one independant and a Republican. Politics will be discussed. We are all teachers in the same school.

Welcome! Thanks for delurking.

You conjure a powerful mental image, sir.
I’m going to get the brain bleach now….

Get a load of Roy (I must be smoking a) Blunt’s wishful thinking: “This vote has no impact at all.” You wish, buddy.

We DARE Bush to veto this, chump! It goes down, we go back to square one — which is where we should be.

I used to work near the Franklin Aircraft Engine Plant in Syracuse. They made the engines for the ill fated Tucker. It was eventually turned into an office building.

IOW pixie dust.

Is that Glen Campbell on guitar?

Time to change your name to “Jim the Hopeful”

I thot we heard “No” earlier, because they can’t amend an amendment. The House change was technically an amendment, wasn’t it?

Can someone give us some clarity on this? I thought it went from the House to the president’s desk. He threatened to veto the House version. Now I’m confused.

Bush does have a toady packed Supreme Court ready to rule his way.

Sorry — you’re right.

(I think it may be time for the decaf.)

I’m not throwing out the term “traitors” lightly. I MEAN it. The very definition of the term is what you have when people directly and inarguably violate their oaths of office to uphold and defend the Constitution.

There is NOTHING more important than that, yes, “suicide pact”. It IS a suicide pact, it was a suicide pact to get that document from our Founders. Any willing violations of the words and spirit of that document IS treason. No ifs, ands, or buts.

hehehe

I’m not a fan of these protest votes. If we ever lose one because of Kucinich et al, there will be hell to pay. Makes you think that the Illinois Leg.may have a point with voting ‘present’ when you like a bill but it doesn’t go far enough.
What’s the saying? “Perfect shouldn’t be the opposite of good”? Something like that.

See my 119

You’re killin’ me again today!

How long ago was that?

The perfect shouldn’t be the ENEMY of the good.

Yeah, baby, and McBatshitCrazySaint is tied to the Veto-King. Kinda like stink on sh*t.

Good, I though I was gonna have to fly to Oakland for a duel on the last post!

sounds awesome, we’re doing something similar (cards, dominos and Siedler-german board game)

Treason carries with it the death penalty, and I’m not one who is ready to execute everyone who loses a case before the Supreme Court because their position was unconstitutional.

Make no mistake — I’m angry that any member of Congress would vote in opposition to the Fourth Amendment. I’m just not ready to kill them because of their votes.

Wow. Excellent news. The Constitution survives a while longer!

Exactly.

How have we gotten this close to losing our liberty, our rights, and our freedom?

That’s why the party Whips exist, to make sure that doesn’t happen…ish.

– Can someone give us some clarity on this? I thought it went from the House to the president’s desk. He threatened to veto the House version. –

In order for a bill to go from Congress to the president, both chambers have to agree on exactly the same language. At this point, the House and Senate language is radically divergent, and the latest action is the Houses, on a bill sent back to it by the Senate. Now the Senate is in the same spot it put the House in.

I think the question of what the Senate will do next is really interesting. It has no obligation to take up H.R.3773. The Senate may decide that it doesn’t have time or the inclination to navigate something new, this year, and may well pass an extension of the PAA — an extension that reaches past GWB’s term in office.

I just called Welch’s office to complain, as I have called them every time FISA comes up, and every federal elected official from Vermont (all three…) have said they are against immunity. This makes no sense, and I’ll post the reply if/when I get one - they said they would email an answer on it.

from up top—-Eleven Democrats voted ”nay,” and that may include some protest votes from progressives.

=========

yeah, what does that mean exactly? the protest votes.

haven’t read all of the comments yet, so, if answered already, forget i asked……..thanks.

Peter 119 and 139. Thanks. It really is up in the air, but I’m proud of those who, at long last, figured out how to stand up a little straighter.

It’s better to risk a loss than never to have tried. imho.

Hey Roy, come visit us at FDL, I got your impact right here!

And yoh! President crankypants, stomping your feet and waving your arms around in the air. How’s that working for you?

Talking Bush idiocy on Economy: How does a weaker dollar (almost $1.60 to buy 1 Euro these days) help us?

Can he even spell hyper-inflation?

Thank you so much. The twists and turns and ups and downs and ins and outs are maddening. I like things pretty straight forward. Regardless, I’m learning a lot about the finer points and will do what it takes to get this bill passed.

Unlike Kucinich, I’m not always a purist.

– Thus, it goes back to the Senate for consideration — without possibility of a filibuster. –

The only filibuster (60 vote hurdle in essence) that the House-passed version can bypass is the filibuster associated with a motion to proceed. Once taken up by the full body, H.R.3773 can be blocked by 41 Senators.

I just loved the transparent timing, with a poke from BushCo,for the MSM to take a moment to inform us that yet another ‘High Ranking ” Al Quaeda operative had been apprehended, ’some time last week’.
Gee, right in the middle of the vote on immunity for warrantless spying and blustering about our vulnerability to attack by the Repukes too.
How very fucking convenient.

The plant was closed when I arrived in 84 but still had the signs. It was on the shores of the most most polluted lake in the US, Lake Ononadaga. They rehabbed it around 1988.

President????? McC…

I’m thinking of running.

You have my vote!

I am also opposed to the death penalty. I am for trials for treason against those who ARE spitting on the Constitution. We can then give them life in prison without parole. I do not believe that treason REQUIRES death…but if so, that law can be changed.

i’ll vote for mary too.

LOL!

You trust flying still?? They’ve got us just where they want us…

Can’t fly, not safe
Can’t drive, too expensive

I suppose one could travel by train or bus, but price and safety have always been concerns with those two.

I guess I’ll just end it all. That’s what they really want.

you’ve missed the dancing of late? and don’t forget the oddly timed giggle.

something needs adjustment. i won’t hazard a guess what. be my guest, heh.

This is great news.

Let’s get Carney now.

yet another ‘High Ranking ” Al Quaeda operative had been apprehended, ’some time last week’.

oo, oo, was it #2 or #3? How thrilling!

Well…unless the GOP is in charge. THEN it is OK to pass along a bill that contains extras the GOP prefers but that was NOT in any final bill. You know, just kinda made up from the gist of the two different bills sans conference!

Will do. Sorry for the delay. She should be around in just a bit.

Sanity would seem to indicate, in this upcoming election, that the Democrats would be running unopposed. But no, the GOP is running that ridiculous Bush suck-up, John McCain.

OT: but great map The World According to Oil

h/t Bartlett [R] on floor

No death penalty, ever, by my values. Jail time is fine.

– I thot we heard “No” earlier, because they can’t amend an amendment. –

The general point of “can’t amend an amendment” in this context is to prevent perpetual ping pong between the chambers. If they disagree, they are supposed to say so, and request a conference to negotiate a compromise.

The “amend and amendment” thing is supposed to apply to narrowly drawn clauses; and doesn’t fit real well when the “amendment” is in fact a hundred pages of text (substitute amendment is a fresh bill, not a “change” to a bill).

At any rate, the rules are meant to drive legislative issues toward a conclusion. When the difference isn’t amenable to a compromise, then no legislation is produced.

Well what do ya know. I can’t believe they didn’t go behind doors and cave. Can we please have impeachment now?

I don’t give a rats ass about any of it. I flew to Denver for my uncle’s funeral last week. Rented a crappy Chevy and drove 200 miles up on the Great Divide on Sunday just to see the sun come up on Mt Quandry!

How many names and alias’s?

You go! Person.

L.

they can block away AFAIC. No bill is better than one with immunity. And it now looks like that is their choice or am I wrong?

Now now, we need for oil to go up a bit more and then for the repercussions of that to trickle through the economy before you can say “hyperinflation“. But it is coming.

Are we going to have a special “Fool us once” Blue America?

Ha!

I nominate Rick Noriega.

lol, good one nonplussed.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

said by others and h/t to them, but thought it useful to have it altogether in one place.

Would be better to have their State and email links so they can be properly admonished. For ex. is that Capuano of MA?

DEMS VOTING NAY

Boren
Capuano
Carney
Cooper
Filner
Hinchey
Holden
Kucinich
Lampson

Not voting:

GOP:
Boustany
Brown-Waite, Ginny
Everett
Hunter
LaHood
Musgrave
Nunes
Peterson (PA)
Pickering
Tancredo
Walsh (NY)
Weller
Young (AK)

Dems:
Cramer
Green, Gene
Hooley
Oberstar
Rangel
Rush
Woolsey

McDermott
Shuler
Welch (VT)

I know, but we gotta take baby steps here. He beats the hell out of Cornyn. Of course, my dog is quite a bit smarter than old John.

Just wait. Bush will imply that the capture of yet ANOTHER number 2 or 3 (of the THOUSANDS that exist) was brought to you ONLY by illegal spying on Americans. Somehow. The details are, you know, secret.

LOL, I’ve got my finger goggles on, singing that song, and my PF Flyers and code ring too.

too funny.

I’m kinda to that point too. Breathtaking vistas are my thing regardless of cost.

I see Shuler on that Nay list - assume that’s good old Heath. What a disappointment he is !

Thanks for clearing away some of the smoke. ;->

woo frakkin hoo!

Congrats to all the Patriot Pups here who helped make this happen - and congrats to Jane, Christy, LHP, Emptywheel, Digby, Glenzilla, and all the other patriot bloggers who set the stage and moved us along.

Good on y’all!

The best is the enemy of the good. - Voltaire

w00t! I’ll w00t for that!

She’s so cute when she’s mad

Ding!

The perps may deserve it - but we deserve better. Time to detach death from the Justices’ tinkering forever more.

– They can block away AFAIC. No bill is better than one with immunity. And it now looks like that is their choice –

The choices are still myriad. The Senate can pass yet another (different) version; the Senate can pass an extension of the PAA (which by definition has no retrospective immunity provision, it just changes the date on an existing law); or the Senate can take up H.R.3773 and “tweak” it, e.g., by removing the section that permits pending cases to be handles with the telecoms presenting state secret evidence in judge’s chambers, out of sight of the plaintiffs.

Regardless, the House has spoken. The ball is now in the Senate’s hands.

Boy, you give a mouse a cookie…

Well, Heath sucked as a quarterback, too.

This vote just shows what we can do when we work hard and I am so proud of everyone - all the posters and all who wrote, faxed and e-mailed. Breathing room for the next fight.

Believe it or not, all 21 who were on my blue dog list voted yea, including Carney, with the exception of Cramer, who did not vote. Haven’t found the three yet, unless someone found them while I was looking. If so, please, who are they?

I concur. But if he were,(in an ideal world), ever convicted of war crimes, Mr. Bush tries my conviction on being against the death penalty. But I suppose I would take more satisfication in knowing our prez were in isolation for the rest of his life behind bars.

I never had PF Flyers!
Humph. If they made them today I’d probably buy a pair.

not without comment from me, calling attention to someone passed over/ rejected, who nevertheless is bizzy proving to be JUST as progressive as advertised in his campaign.

omg, won’t i ever shut up on this subject? No.

All together now, if and as you wish, of course:

YAYYYYY SEN. SHERROD BROWN of Ohio!!!

Keep up the good work!!!

That’s odd, I see Shuler on the yea list!

Just wait. Bush will imply that the capture of yet ANOTHER number 2 or 3 (of the THOUSANDS that exist)

I couldn’t figure out why over the years there were soooo many 2 or 3 top man captured. It is some variant code: 2,3,2,3,2,3,3,2,2,3,3,2…… to infinity.

Keds will give the same nostalgic fix. *g*

I would like the VERY poetic justice of seeing both Bush and Cheney tried for war crimes at the Hague and imprisoned for life at Spandau prison, walking in the footsteps of their “heros” (and Bush Jr’s Grandfather’s best buddies).

I think it was Peterr who had him on the Nay list. It will all get straightened out later, I guess.

they must STOP the insider trading…or close the market down……a few gain and millions lose

IRT to Bush accountability. I still a step in the correct direction would be for the US to become a State Party to the Rome Statute.

I believe the Al Qaeda power structure is in the form of a very VERY VERY wide pyramid.

Much like Klaus Barbie in France (after the French paraded him through the streets).

Post that lists the 21 blue dogs who wrote to Pelosi on FISA

Today represents a stumbling block, at least, to the administration’s desire to sweep certain facts out of public sight.

I’m happy about the outcome, but the outcome isn’t necessarily durable, and the outcome may have a price tag of extending the odious PAA for an indefinite period.

– I couldn’t figure out why over the years there were soooo many 2 or 3 top man captured. –

They are ALL second in command, if you get them in the right order.

just one way…we repay debt in cheaper dollars ,and US commodities are cheaper to Europeans but it sux in many other wats

How does a weaker dollar (almost $1.60 to buy 1 Euro these days) help us?

It helps us contribute yet again to the record profits for some of those that Bush really serves, namely, the oil companies.

Fortunately, we only have Cheney. Oh wait, he’s really first in command.

I hope this makes Lieberman upset. He seemed so keen on telcom immunity in his last letter ; ) Then of course there were those obnoxious ads against Chris Murphy and Courtney.

I can’t tell who it is but I don’t think it’s Glen Campbell. Could be. He’s old enough.

I had sent an email to Pelosi last week calling her craven because at the time it appeared the Dems were caving. So after today, I sent another note apologizing for what was perhaps a rush to judgment.

Great news!!

Way to go Fire Pups! I watched the vote go down and was so proud of all of you. Thank you so much for your activism!

By the way, I think Kucinich was protesting the Democrats for ALLOWING A SECRET SESSION TO OCCUR. It was a risky move on his part. Not sure I would have done that considering the importance of this vote. Maybe he knew it was going to pass and figured voting against it wouldn’t be a risk? Could be. Not sure.