Comments on: Abramoff’s Old Law Firm Indicted In Guam And Other DeLayed News

By: klynn

klynn — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:38:09 +0000

This is a great job Christy. Thanks. Sorry I’m so late to the thread. Was away from home until late and did not catch this until this AM.

Wanted to share a quick O/T…

Mr Klynn took me out to dinner last night. Nothing fancy — Bob Evans. The waiter looked at me and said, You look like I had had a great day.” I told him, “You are perceptive.” He asked, “Do you mind sharing what made your day?” I explained about FISA and the vote in the House. He was fascinated with the news and agreed it was good news. I shared where things will go next and he asked, “What can I do to help this?” I said, “Write letters to your Senator and to your local paper or just call and fax your Senator.” I referred him to FDL and EW.

Many overheard our conversation and many asked me questions. When I explained everything in a common sense manner of balancing security with individual rights, everyone agreed the amended legislation made sense. When I talked about how some have “couched the argument” in fear terms and explained how data was being collected and how rights were being violated, many said, “That’s just not right.”

I said I agreed and that when it comes to being a citizen in the United States of America, terror threats and all, we cannot act in a manner contra to the Constitution and fail to work for balance in security and rights. A response based in fear, that denies freedom is a slap in the face of all who fought to protect our freedoms.

Someone piped up with the ,”I have nothing to hide, they can look at all my records…” I then challenged that individual and asked if he had children. He said, “Yes, and I have grandchildren too.” I gave him some worse case scenarios of what could happen to his children or grandchildren with such illegal gathering of data. Then I shared my own story of identity theft which happened due to the Patriot Act’s invasive data gathering which made my health care information vulnerable and thus stolen and sold to a terrorist in India.

He was shocked. He was outraged. He said he was a lifelong Republican and that “that” should have never happened to me.

He then agreed, balance of security and individual rights is the best way to go. He realized no option makes us %100 safe but that an intrusive option opens doors to the government controlling us.

bmaz mentioned in an EW thread yesterday, the Dem candidates need to hit this message: that the House bill is a genuine effort to balance security and individual rights. No an attempt to manipulate with fear and invade privacy.

Bob Evans in Columbus, Ohio was an interesting spot for this to happen…

Just a story…

By: bmaz

bmaz — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:32:04 +0000

Christy – If you happen to wander back to your thread here, I am not sure how much effect that Mukasey and the other DOJ misfits had on this because this indictment was handed up in the Guam state (territorial?) court, not the Federal court there. My guess is that the locals are rightfully pissed and got tired of the lack of activity by the DOJ so they decided to act on their own. That is just a wild guess though.

By: SouthernDragon

SouthernDragon — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:02:06 +0000

I know what a measuring wheel today is but just how did the Egyptian version work? Maybe I’ll go look it up before it drives me nuts trying to that one out.

By: prostratedragon

prostratedragon — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:41:33 +0000

I gather you’re UCC, RevDeb? So’s my family. Rev. Wright is a colleague of my (retired) father. Our congregation was one of several fosters, as it were, of young Trinity Church at it’s founding in 1961. It’s rather painful to us to see Rev. Wright presented as a caricature based on a few excerpted remarks from a long career. But he will survive it.

By: oldgold

oldgold — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:22:34 +0000

Look, I have a lot more, but really what is the point? If you don’t hear it, you don’t hear it. Nothing I can say will ever convice you. But, I would guess 90% of all Americans that hear it will agree with me. Of couse, I could be wrong, but I very seriously doubt it.

By: marshen

marshen — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:19:17 +0000

Nope, not kidding. Obama live with Hannity on FOX minutes from now. They are playing an old interview they did with Wright from a year ago now. Obama probably next. They are showing alot more tape exerpts from Wright’s preaching as well.

By: kiddo

kiddo — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:15:41 +0000

Infinity is the most interesting thing I know of. I am incapable of really grasping the actual concept. Mathematics only gives me a faint taste for it. It is frustrating to me. To be sure.

By: dmac

dmac — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:11:33 +0000

rev deb-waxman on moyers is a rerun-lorita doan.

fundraising here, too, and it gets worse every time. i get to go to our local pbs station and watch them do the ou newswatch show, soon..student newscast…..i watch it. will be fun.

By: solai

solai — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:11:27 +0000

Barack Obama is coming on soon on Hannity and Colmes on FOX to discuss Wright ect.

You got to be fucking kidding me !!!!

By: eCAHNomics

eCAHNomics — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:10:58 +0000

I’m particularly fond of different classes of infinity.