The real hallmark of the right-wing rule America has endured for the better part of the new century has been its reliance on persuading the public to believe things that are factually false. The Iraq War -- in which the nation was induced to believe provably false "facts", thanks largely to a mendacious administration and a prostrate media eager to sit on its lap -- is only the most infamous example. The list -- running from the Plame affair to the Katrina debacle to Social Security and the economy, to civil rights and gay rights, to consumer-protection and environmental policy -- is not merely long, it touches nearly every facet of American governance and the public discourse.
And we can add the immigration debate to that list as well. For that matter, it's rapidly becoming the most prominent current example of the American right persuading the public to launch into another monumental clusterfuck on the basis of provably false information. And just as in those many other instances, the nation's media are playing an outsize role in helping it happen.
A couple of weeks ago word began leaking out out about polling done by a coalition of progressive immigration-reform groups that was meant to help inform internal strategy for political candidates looking to change the shape of the discourse so far. Some of the conclusions reached along the way raise some serious red flags -- particularly the possibility that liberals might simply reinforce right-wing frames along the way -- but the poll itself (which was kept confidential) made for some fascinating reading.
One aspect of the polling -- which I've received permission to discuss publicly from the groups involved -- really stood out as a prime example of how deeply right-wing bullshit infects the public discourse.
An early page in the poll, headlined "Biggest Concerns About Illegal Immigration," featured the public responses to a set of concerns that were identified by the pollsters as the most common issues raised in focus groups, letting the poll respondents say what their "one or two biggest concerns about illegal immigration today" might be. They ran thus:
Immigrants receiving free public services such as health care (48%)
Immigrants not paying taxes (35%)
Takes jobs from Americans and lowers wages (20%)
Too many immigrants aren't learning English (20%)
Weakens our security against terrorism (18%)
Causing crime problems in many communities (17%)
If you look down that list, something stands out: Each item reflects a fear based either on outright false information or on gross distortions from a highly selective set of facts.
Readers of our earlier discussions of the immigration debate will already be familiar with the groundlessness of most of these concerns, but it's still worthwhile going through them, and getting the requisite reality checks, so we can see just how far astray from anything rational we're wandering in this debate.
A. Immigrants receiving free public services such as health care
Just a small fraction of America's health care spending is used to provide publicly supported care to the nation's undocumented immigrants, according to a RAND Corporation study issued today.
Overall, immigrants to the United States use relatively few health services, primarily because they are generally healthier than their American-born counterparts, according to the study by the nonprofit research organization.
The report – which appears in the November edition of the journal Health Affairs – estimates that in the United States about $1.1 billion in federal, state and local government funds are spent annually on health care for undocumented immigrants aged 18 to 64. That amounts to an average of $11 in taxes for each U.S. household.
In contrast, a total of $88 billion in government funds were spent on health care for all non-elderly adults in 2000.
Health care expenditures are substantially lower for immigrants than for US-born persons. Our study refutes the assumption that immigrants represent a disproportionate financial burden on the US health care system.
Despite the important role that immigrants play in the U.S. economy, they disproportionately lack health insurance and receive fewer health services than native-born Americans. Some policymakers have called for limits on immigrants' access to health insurance, particularly Medicaid, which are even more stringent than those already in place. However, policies that restrict immigrants' access to some health care services lead to the inefficient and costly use of other services (such as emergency room care) and negatively impact public health.
B. Immigrants not paying taxes
Between one-half and three-quarters of undocumented immigrants pay federal and state income taxes, Social Security taxes, and Medicare taxes. And all undocumented immigrants pay sales taxes (when they buy anything at a store, for instance) and property taxes (even if they rent housing).
As the debate over Social Security heats up, the estimated seven million or so illegal immigrant workers in the United States are now providing the system with a subsidy of as much as $7 billion a year.
[The Texas] Comptroller’s office estimates that state revenues collected from undocumented immigrants exceed what the state spent on services, with the difference being $424.7 million.
C. Takes jobs from Americans and lowers wages
Rapid increases in the foreign-born population at the state level are not associated with negative effects on the employment of native-born workers, according to a study by the Pew Hispanic Center that examines data during the boom years of the 1990s and the downturn and recovery since 2000.
An analysis of the relationship between growth in the foreign-born population and the employment outcomes of native-born workers revealed wide variations across the 50 states and the District of Columbia. No consistent pattern emerges to show that native-born workers suffered or benefited from increased numbers of foreign-born workers.
In 2005, immigrants overall represented more than a fifth of low-wage workers—those earning less than twice the minimum wage—and almost half of workers without a high school education. Unauthorized workers were nearly a tenth of low-wage workers and a quarter of low-skilled workers. The number of low-wage and low-skilled native-born workers fell between 2000 and 2005, due to improvements in their educational attainment but also due to decreasing labor force participation.
D. Too many immigrants aren't learning English
Nearly all Hispanic adults born in the United States of immigrant parents report they are fluent in English. By contrast, only a small minority of their parents describe themselves as skilled English speakers. This finding of a dramatic increase in English-language ability from one generation of Hispanics to the next emerges from a new analysis of six Pew Hispanic Center surveys conducted this decade among a total of more than 14,000 Latino adults. The surveys show that fewer than one-in-four (23%) Latino immigrants reports being able to speak English very well. However, fully 88% of their U.S.-born adult children report that they speak English very well. Among later generations of Hispanic adults, the figure rises to 94%. Reading ability in English shows a similar trend.
Hispanics by a large margin believe that immigrants have to speak English to be a part of American society and even more so that English should be taught to the children of immigrants, according to recent surveys conducted by the Pew Hispanic Center.
The endorsement of the English language, both for immigrants and for their children, is strong among all Hispanics regardless of income, party affiliation, fluency in English or how long they have been living in the United States.
Within ten years of arrival, more than 75% of immigrants speak English well; moreover, demand for English classes at the adult level far exceeds supply. Greater than 33% of immigrants are naturalized citizens; given increased immigration in the 1990s, this figure will rise as more legal permanent residents become eligible for naturalization in the coming years. The number of immigrants naturalizing spiked sharply after two events: enactment of immigration and welfare reform laws in 1996, and the terrorist attacks in 2001.
E. Weakens our security against terrorism
Using a database created from the biographical data of 373 terrorists, we have established a number of significant findings. Over forty percent of our database is made up of Western Nationals. Second, despite widespread alarms raised over terrorist infiltration from Mexico, we found no terrorist presence in Mexico and no terrorists who entered the U.S. from Mexico. Third, we found a sizeable terrorist presence in Canada and a number of Canadian-based terrorists who have entered the U.S.
Nearly half of all the unauthorized migrants now living in the United States entered the country legally through a port of entry such as an airport or a border crossing point where they were subject to inspection by immigration officials, according to new estimates from the Pew Hispanic Center.
As much as 45% of the total unauthorized migrant population entered the country with visas that allowed them to visit or reside in the U.S. for a limited amount of time. Known as “overstayers,” these migrants became part of the unauthorized population when they remained in the country after their visas had expired.
Another smaller share of the unauthorized migrant population entered the country legally from Mexico using a Border Crossing Card, a document that allows short visits limited to the border region, and then violated the terms of admission.
F. Causing crime problems in many communities
Although the undocumented immigrant population doubled to about 12 million from 1994 to 2005, the violent crime rate in the United States declined by 34.2% and the property crime rate fell by 26.4%.2 This decline in crime rates was not just national, it also occurred in border cities and other cities with large immigrant populations—such as San Diego, El Paso, Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, and Miami.
Crime Rates Have Declined as Immigration Has Increased:
Even as the undocumented population has doubled to 12 million since 1994, the violent crime rate in the United States has declined 34.2 percent and the property crime rate has fallen 26.4 percent.
Cities with large immigrant populations such as Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, and Miami also have experienced declining crime rates during this period.
Immigrants Have Lower Incarceration Rates than Natives:
Among men age 18-39 (who comprise the vast majority of the prison population), the 3.5 percent incarceration rate of the native-born in 2000 was 5 times higher than the 0.7 percent incarceration rate of the foreign-born.
The foreign-born incarceration rate in 2000 was nearly two-and-a-half times less than the 1.7 percent rate for nativeborn non-Hispanic white men and almost 17 times less than the 11.6 percent rate for native-born black men.
Native-born Hispanic men were nearly 7 times more likely to be in prison than foreign-born Hispanic men in 2000, while the incarceration rate of native-born non-Hispanic white men was almost 3 times higher than that of foreign-born white men.
Foreign-born Mexicans had an incarceration rate of only 0.7 percent in 2000—more than 8 times lower than the 5.9 percent rate of native-born males of Mexican descent.
Foreign-born Salvadoran and Guatemalan men had an incarceration rate of 0.5 percent, compared to 3.0 percent of native-born males of Salvadoran and Guatemalan descent.
It isn't possible for these misconceptions to spread without the willing complicity of the press, particularly ratings-mongerers like Lou Dobbs, who haven't yet found a right-wing nativist claim against immigrants they aren't willing to parrot as fact.
One of these, as it happens, is the claim that most Americans are up in arms about illegal immigration -- something that Dobbs repeated for his audience yesterday. But as Media Matters explains in detail, most polls found that only between 4 and 7 percent of various poll respondents consider it among their most pressing political issues.
The spread of afactual garbage into the mainstream is indeed a widespread media problem. And if they're not going to clean up their act, perhaps the blogosphere can do it for them.
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I could watch Dobbs, thinking that he was somewhat rational and I could talk or debate his views with mine. That changed when he turned his show into a nonstop anti-immigration rant. It just got so monotonous I stopped watching.
Before this gets dugg:
“Each item reflects a fear based either on “
Representative Steny (can’t tell ya his last name - it’s secret)!!!
The whole “immigration” question was created by Rove as an inflammatory election issue.
Prior to 2004…between 2001 and 2004…the Administration did absolutely zero to protect the “borders”..which was a sure giveaway that they weren’t worried about “terrorism” at all, which made me question that if they thought terrorism was such a huge threat…why not do something about it….it was clue number one to the biggest lie ever.
BTW…”9/11 Press for Truth” is running over and over on FSTV, in case you haven’t seen it…
Sorry for the OT, but I think it is all connected on some level. JMHO.
What is FSTV and where do you find it?
This is America, dammit! Immigrants are WELCOME here.
Blue America!
There are several ways of knowing that Bush hasn’t been serious about terrorism per se since the get-go: His gutting of antiterrorism funding prior to 9/11 (he was largely shifting the monies into missile-defense boondoggles), his failure to make Al Qaeda the priority in the “war on terror” reflected by the misbegotten adventure in Iraq; the failure to seriously pursue the anthrax case; the insistence that “eco-terrorists” and animal-rights groups pose a greater “terrorism” threat than right-wing extremists … the list goes on.
And yes, you’re correct that the administration certainly never viewed the borders as a significant aspect of the “war on terror” until it became a convenient way of mollifying the nativists.
Rep David Scott calling the thugs out for playing games and switching blame.
This is America, dammit! Immigrants are WELCOME here.
damn - don’t get out much, huh? You are supposed to be afraid - VERY afraid. Pleasse re-think and try again… /s
It’s easy when you have an population of idiots.
You want better policies to dominate? Get a better electorate.
Dance Roy Dance!!!! da daduh
Free Speech TV - it is on DishTV at 9415 and it is also on DirectTV, but I don’t know the number, I think it is 375 or something.
Immigration makes a great decoy that keeps the masses fighting amongst themselves while the elite rulers run amuck with power to rule the world. And, the masses fall for it.
One of my favorites is:
Anybody remember their Italian speaking grandparents who never quite mastered English. In fact, Grandmama didn’t speak a word other than Thank you and Hello.
This is pitting worker against worker like corps did with unions. Is anyone focusing on corporations and going after them? Occassionally, on the House floor there is a weak finger wag and it dies when the next speaker hits the podium.
The immigrant issue is needed to keep the people fighting amongst themselves while we lose our Rights, Democracy, Constitution and Rule of Law.
Same channel as Democracy Now.
So, the House is still debating the merits of going into a closed secret session? The “tonight” label on C-Span threw me, I thought they were recapping while the House was behind closed doors.
I’ll concur with bluejeansntshirt on this: we are (almost) all immigrants, and as such, we should welcome more with open arms. (I note with considerable disgust the administration’s quota of 500 Iraqis/year, not even remotely close to enough to admit those who have repeatedly put their lives and their family’s lives on the line to assist the US. And but a microscopic fraction of the number needed to take in all those who’ve been displaced at the behest of our leaders.)
If we as a nation aren’t serious about it, then maybe we should send a kid up in a harness to spray-paint over the words on the Statue of Liberty. You know, just cover them up because we don’t mean them any more. But if we ARE serious about it, then we need to overcome hate-mongering, xenophobic racists like Dobbs et.al. and see that new arrivals get the same chance we, or our parents, or theirs, had.
I don’t like the business of my gov’t being conducted behind closed doors. Sounds fishy to me.
This is a great post debunking the propaganda.
If you don’t have a Digg account, this post is worth creating one, just to Digg it.
The fear hit me like a ton of bricks a few yrs. ago.
Got over it and became active. Still kicking self for falling into their trap.
Thanks I don’t have dish. I was just listening to Rachel Maddow show and they were playing our Presidents song he sang at the Gridirion Dinner. Disgusting.
I worry the dems going to make a secret deal behind closed doors to cover their asses.
It is on Youtube, in segments…and elsewhere on the net…worth watching.
yep. and to expose ours.
So, the House is still debating the merits of going into a closed secret session? The “tonight” label on C-Span threw me,
hell, at this point, with one Dem after another walking up to object, “tonight” is going to become “tomorrow” pretty damned soon.
“Closed Secret Session” = last-ditch, Hail-Mary pass by the R’s to de-rail the passage of the FISA bill that’s coming tomorrow. It’s patently ridiculous, a most transparent obfuscatory move by the R’s to delay the inevitable.
And Steny is all in favor - attaboy, asshole…
Amen. As long as I live, this president will be the template for intolerable leadership. His policies are asinine, his politics are abominable, and I find the man personally offensive on every level. An utterly contemptible, lousy excuse for a chief executive.
I know it’s ben all over the internet. I still just shudder thinking this man has ruled our country for 7 years. And I worry about what is going to happen this next 7 months.
good for you - you know I was just kidding, right?
clapping !!
The problem with him is he comes off like a baffoon, but shame on us for bleiving in that charade. He really is evil.
You are not alone…especially after his stupid joking arrogant song the other night….I’m counting the days, and I hope they leave…not hope, I insist….
He is a buffoon. He’s also evil. There’s no need to choose between the two.
Of course. No worries mate. ;-)
Thank you. I’m here all week. Try the veal!
Thanks for the great post David. Great lay out of the facts.
‘Sup, Doc?
jayT! Dude! You still driving towards Texas?
Double clapping!
Not much. Got a stack of midterms to grade, but I left the key at the lab. Oh well, I have all of spring break to do it.
Hey Congress, you are as sick as your secrets….
We’d better not get screwed again…
jayT! Dude! You still driving towards Texas?
Yup. Got a real shitty, slow car though. Should be there by Tuesday…
Whoa!!!
Note to self: Don’t try to drive and type at the same time…
excellent. we’ll schedule lunch again for next week, in your honor.
You comin’ to Tx…yay!
Spring Break is one of god’s better creations. I think that, somewhere there in The Rule Book, it states that it is to be spent in the sun…
I came in late to learn about the secret session. What better way to further reduce public approval of our legislative branch? Sheesh.
Shiiite, tomorrow, it’s gonna be 90F….
Locally, the rule is that the sun don’t shine during spring break. And all my money is sunk into a conference in Vancouver the following week.
I believe I heard mention this was the fifth secret session in 180 years.
We hit 42 today, quite a difference from the cold/snow we’ve had. AND, the tomatoes, sweet peas and onion seeds I planted last weekend have come up already! At this rate…no, I better not dream about planting outside yet.
What gives with the House? Adjourn or not?
Locally, the rule is
See, right there is your problem. Rules are only written to be selectively ignored…
That’s five times too damned many for me!
A lot of the anti-illegal immigrant ranting is so over the top, I want to ask, “If the Americas had a zero-tolerance policy since 1492, where would you be? Do you really believe that because your ancestors arrived before the 432 years-late crackdown or they (or you yourself) got one of the quota slots that by your logic shouldn’t have been issued, does that really give you the right to pass judgment on those who haven’t had your family’s luck?”
This whole thing is a bright, shiny object. Dobbs has reached the point of being frantic as if they were invading his house.
Four of the occasions in the last 15 to 20 years.. Most if not all during Bush terms.. I think I detect an accelerating secret pattern..)
I am not surprised.
evening, pups
great post, i’ll forward it to my dad
btw– check out the t-shirt linked here.
http://westwindworld.com//stor.....=73″
C. Takes Jobs From Americans and Lowers Wages:
I live in California and recall a time when commercial and residential construction jobs were highly payed, mostly white, blue collar jobs. These jobs are now lower paying and occupied by mostly latino workers at least in my state. This has happened because of an influx over the last twenty years of skilled immigrant labor and builders or contractors taking advantage of these folks to maximize profits and dramaticly lower labor costs.
I think in this industry and others jobs have been taken away over the last twenty years from american born workers and handed to immigrant workers who are in no position to demand or negotiate higher wages or even the same wages the job earned when held by the previous “american born worker.” It’s not the immigrant taking jobs away, it’s the rich white factory owner or builder taking these jobs and giving them to immigrants to pad his own greedy pockets.
Most if not all during Bush terms…
Bush = secret?
Nah, you’re just gettin’ a little paranoid there, dude.
Or maybe not…
http://video.google.com/videop.....;plindex=0
Warning - 90 minutes….
well.. if anyone wants to know where things are going on the Mexican/Latinamerican immigration front:
Today’s AP headline:
“Rice worried about Latam terrorism”
ya know, the fearmongerers had a mismatch for awhile.. the terrorist bogeyman was in the fertile crescent while the immigration bogeyman was down south, and nobody was buying the argument that middle-eastern types are pouring across the Rio Grande.. so now.. a new tactic! Rebrand the ‘rrerorists! They ARE Latin American!
I’m so sick of all this I could cry.
“Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free”
Words permanently engraved with the Statue of Liberty.
Would you blame the French if they asked to have her back?
i think they’ve erased that since 2001. prob started on the process earlier.
I’m surprised it wasn’t shipped back to France as part of the “Freedom Fries” movement.
That was a trick by the French so everyone would want to immigrate to the US and the French could keep France “pure.”
Gold topped 1,000.00 USD today.
Sittin’ pretty at Fort Knox!
That can be changed. I’m sure they have stonemasons at Homeland Security.
“Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free”
Words permanently engraved with the Statue of Liberty.
That dog don’t hunt no mo…
It didn’t work well, considering the race riots they had in France a few years ago and the high unemployment rate amongst immigrants.
We take what we need.
There is a nursing shortage here, so we go to the Phillipines and Ireland and get some nurses.
We denigrate them here– Tweety and Timmeh recently did it on tv and KO even did it the other night…………..but hey, we’ll give special visas to those folks who have been taught the fine art and science of nursing over there and continue to bash the very same immigrants that are literally saving lives here.
Go figure.
your huddled masses waiting to be bussed back to south of the border
Gold topped 1,000.00 USD today.
goddammit - I *knew* that was coming.
Oh liquidity, wherefore art thou?
…and the US Dollar hit an all time low
Ron Paul is prolly havin’ a hissy fit!
Thank you, assholes of the Bush administration.
Good night Pups
“Oh liquidity, wherefore art thou?”
In shrubco’s Euro-dominated numbered accounts
no fucking shit?!?
It is no wonder there is a shortage of nurses here. In Los Angeles, half of the students drop out and don’t even graduate high school. This nurse shortage is just a symptom of our failed public education system.
Well, we can always revise it to fit the 21st century
“Give us your oil, your drugs, your huddled masses of cheap consumer goods”
but…but…but that’ll help lower the trade defecit, right?
sleep well my friend. did you see the pix online?
yes, but perhaps not as much as one might hope… some of our biggest trading partners link their currencies at least partially to the dollar.
“Give us your oil, your drugs, your huddled masses of cheap consumer goods”
Yeah, that almost works, but you forgot to include a totally hypothetical and unrealistic threat of military action….
’scuze the language but, that was surprise to me. we are digging ourselves such a large hole..
oops… forgot the /s
;~P
None whatsoever. USD < 100 Yen</p>
will bush ever admit that maybe we have a little problem here? i don’t worry about gold the way i do oil, but shit, it looks likes a speculative commodities bubble to me.
NCLB. Asking kids to memorize meaningless information tends to turn them off, if they’re healthy. Plus, punishing schools who do not score well on the stupid tests by withholding funds, kinda doesn’t help. Putting all high school kids in college bound programs kinda makes them drop out. Having no classes like metal shop, wood shop, mechanics, etc. tends to have lots of Americans go to prison rather than work. It’s part of the Bush plan.
prison is big money for the folks that own the prisons or have the clothing, food, laundry contracts.
So says Hugh.. The question I have is what will it take to burst? The Dow went up today.
Admitting theres a problem? No way.
Kinda like he couldn’t admit he had a drinking problem until he was 40.
And why admit there’s a problem with the economy / Iraq? If you have faith and keep a positive attitude, everything will work out (the salesman approach, I guess).
NCLB. Emphasizing all that sucks (Rote learning) and removing the mental stimulation. Suppress educator creativity, teach to the lesson plan. Way to empower the educational process.
I remember when the impossible doomsday scenario was gold $1,000, oil $100, Euro 1.00 (as in 1 dollar buys 1 Euro).
Well…today: gold $1,000, WTI $110, and $1.00 buys $0.64 Euro.
Thanks George. You’re in my thoughts every night.
loo hoo, texas actually offers many career pathways within the high schools, but the students who have trouble with academics spend so much time making up their 9th grade credits AGAIN or struggling with the other academics that they drop out before getting involved in the career classes.
George: relax. the Lord will provide.
yeah, well he has a clue…. so i guess i shouldn’t be so surprised.
re: bursting… well, it sure looks like helicopter ben is working overtime to inflate it. but doesn’t ian say that the longer the bubble expands, the worse the damage?
Amen.
Add to that the lack of nursing instructors here.
There’s a large number of nurses who are employed in office jobs in hospitals, which means fewer nurses for patients. We would not need those jobs if there were single-payer health care.
I know I intend to take up canning this year.. and maybe buy a deep freezer.