The votes won’t likely be until later this afternoon, maybe 3-ish — but calls to Representatives need to be made now to emphasize standing up for the rule of law and the Fourth amendment, and against Presidential/telecom immunity.
We are still taking votes on our Blue Dog accountability poll — please cast your vote today.
In 1978, Philip K. Dick wrote the following:
"We live in a society in which spurious realities are manufactured by the media, by governments, by big corporations, by religious groups, political groups. I ask, in my writing, What is real? Because unceasingly we are bombarded with pseudorealities manufactured by very sophisticated people using very sophisticated electronic mechanisms. I do not distrust their motives. I distrust their power. It is an astonishing power: that of creating whole universes, universes of the mind. I ought to know. I do the same thing."
Viewed in the context of current headlines, it is a remarkably prescient view of where we are through Dick’s frequently paranoid hazy view of the world. Jack Balkin hits various issues surrounding our increasingly surveillance-driven culture:
…These techniques and technologies allow governments to do the jobs entrusted to them more powerfully and more efficiently than ever before.
On the other hand, these developments carry all of the potential risks of a powerful National Surveillance State: Governments can make mistakes in assessing levels of criminality and dangerousness; and their data mining models may characterize innocent activity as suspicious. Without sufficient oversight and checking functions, government actors may misuse the additional knowledge they gain, for example, by instigating abusive prosecutions, or creating discriminatory systems for access to public and private services (like banks, airports, government entitlements and so on). And the more powerful government becomes in knowing what its citizens are doing, the easier it becomes for government to control people’s behavior. (emphasis mine)
These are not partisan issues — they are American ones. They raise questions about priorities, about legitimate limitations on governmental power versus allowance of substantial overreach. As the CATO Institute (a conservative/libertarian think tank) puts the ultimate question:
…civil liberties won’t be preserved through compromise. The partisans of ever-increasing executive power aren’t likely to go away any time soon. If Congress compromises and agrees to further expand executive wiretapping powers, a future president will come back to Congress and argue that the law is still too restrictive and still more compromises are needed….At some point, Congress just has to say no.
Former Reagan Administration DOJ official Bruce Fein agrees. As does Bob Barr. None of whom can remotely be called liberal partisans, as President Bush tried to cast all opposition in his petulant Cartman-channelling presser this morning.
Now is the time to contact your Representative and say that they must stand up for rule of law and say no to Presidential/telecom immunity. At some point, they really do have to stand up and say "no."
KagroX has more. As does emptywheel. And Glenn. And Ryan Singel from Wired. Here as well. And cboldt walks us through the bill/amendment niceties.
(YouTube of Clannad "Theme From Harry’s Game.")
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- Surveillance Program Violates Fourth Amendment, DNI Blair’s Office Says
- Can Skittles help fix the PATRIOT Act and FISA?
- Brennan Provides Gonzales-Like Obfuscation on Illegal Surveillance Program





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Morning, Christy!
C-Span has already mentioned pressure from liberal activists on the blue dogs so keep it up, pups
Hi Christy:
Late coming to the party–Been sic, and still am…
What’s the point and purpose of this vote?
CHS! Defense of the Constitution seems to be the only hammer we have to use on people like my “Representative” Lamar Smith.
i saaaaaaaaid, downstairs,
I wish either you or I had a dollar for every time you make my day, Christy!
Thank you.
Let FISA revert!
Historians are going to be puzzled over the lack of resistance to these actions, that is if there is a history differing from the official government approved one.
if the House doesn’t pass it, great. If the House passes it, Chimpy will veto it, then what?
Lots of talk about immunity. Does the House version also ban ‘blanket warrants’?
We still have FISA. That didn’t expire. We can just leave well enough alone for now.
I called Doggett, my rep, and said to vote against telecom immunity.
If the Criminal-in-Chief vetos, we revert to the original FISA act and the telecommunications industry gets no fig leaf.
Called my Rep — she’s a Republican, so I’m fairly sure she’ll be voting for immunity…sigh. She’s retiring, so I’m hoping the Dem candidate wins in November.
great phillip k. dick quote… next i expect you’ll be quoting stanislaw lem.
Just called my Repug congresscritter, Dean Heller, Mr. Lock Step Yes Man. He will obey Bush but I take the Elie Wiesel position – always tell them so they can never say they didn’t know.
for the phone shy -
efax
faxzero
On topic, for those so inclined, here’s the Mukasey/McConnell WATB FISA letter to Speaker Pelosi from yesterday.
from the Kagro-X Christy referred to.
that’s my bold
Philip K. Dick cited on FDL! Like wow, Christy! I was reading him before Steve Jobs and Bill Gates were millionaires. He was a bit crazy, so his take on reality is especially relevant.
If it gets out of the Senate, go ahead, ChimpNuts, veto it.
Then what? Old FISA until ‘09.
I don’t think the Chimpster is gonna win this one.
In the immortal words of Charles Barkley, ‘I could be wrong, but I doubt it.’
Calling Philip Dick paranoid, or his musings, is rather like arguing that something he has predicted hasn’t come true yet so it must be wrong. Look at what he predicted that has come to pass. Alas, he is correct. This is a world of illusion. Embraced by those without hope or independent thought. 99%
Did you see his budget speech yesterday? It was good one.
Did you call your Rep today?
another 1978 quote:
I include it in my faxes
ask her straight up why she wants to let the telocoms steal from you
if you like dick, may i suggest lem?
as you know, there is some doubt as to ours having the opposable thumbs necessary to operate a phone or read a fax – so I’ve been on the phone
with Rahm, most of the Blue Dogs, HJC Members with some special love for Joyride Issa :D
Biodun! I hope you start feeling better ASAP!
Maybe a reference to the Oath of Office would be helpful as well.
Lynn Woolsey, CA-06, our strong ally on FISA and co-chair of the Progressive Caucus will not be voting today. She is recovering from back surgery.
btw, the CATO Institute article, and the ones from Bruce Fein and Bob Barr can provide some confounding silent moments for the GOP’ers that you call. It can be quite fun to quote something from them on this and then get that pause as the “does not compute” wheels begin to turn from the usual knee-jerk support offices.
Thought those of you in Red State territory would appreciate the links. *g*
Christy,
Wow, looking at the agenda and speakers I would love to be at the Take Back America event that starts Monday in DC. This is the first I’m hearing of it. I see Jane is scheduled to appear later on Tuesday after your morning appearance.
I have other commitments this time, but I would sure love to hear about things like this earlier. Maybe I missed it in a previous post.
These are not partisan issues — they are American ones.
This is one of the things I don’t get about this issue – why Republicans are so universally on the wrong side. All they need to do is imagine this power in the hands of someone they despise – say Hillary Clinton, and the light should dawn. And yet, it doesn’t. Not a single Republican Senator voted against this bill last month.
Aren’t those guys supposed to be the libertarians?
I think they may be broadcasting a number of the panels as they happen or just afterward. Last year, they put up video pretty quickly of events (like Digby’s speech at the banquet, for example.) As I find out more on how that’s going to be handled this year, I’ll be sure and let folks know…
watch as they go into full chicken head mode next year.
Maybe there’s no intention of handing over the reins.
(adjusts tinfoil fedora)
I think they decided as soon as they got in office that the one thing they must never do is let the Dems win on anything – no matter what. Just obstruct from day one.
Cujo –
some of us feel the WH grandstanding is a twofer – keeping the lid on their crimes against the constitution . . .
and a display to Telco donors everywhere ‘hey, we’ve got your back, now start sending us money again !’
Their behavior does suggest that, doesn’t it? Anyway, I’m hoping you’re right and Bobby G’s wrong.
Grrreat! Thanks.
Good day, all. Thanks, Christy, for the reminder. The fact that the FISA issue is still alive is thanks in no small part to FDL’s action. I know I’m wildly optimistic, but the Constitution might yet have a chance on this one.
And another observation with this post and BT’s previous. The Dick quote is particularly chilling juxtaposed against Chimpy’s words this morning attempting to define “political reality.” With Rove at his side, it worked for many years. No longer. Bush’s spectacular incompetence and criminality has exposed his motives for all to see-he’s never been interested in “governing.” For Bush, it’s always been about wealth…and power.
Haven’t read him recently. Are there any contemporary SF authors you recommend, covering similar territory to Dick/Lem?
Currently reading Bernstein’s bio of HRC.
For folks who are interested, here’s a YouTube clip of an interview with Philip K. Dick that was done for an SFF convention in France (not sure if it was a Worldcon or another one) — it’s spliced with some discussion of the movie A Scanner Darkly…I think it may have been put together as a promo piece for the movie or something, but it’s an interesting peek into Dick’s mind and the application of his thought processes to fiction and reality these days. Fascinating stuff…
I hope I’m wrong. I cannot help awaiting with anxiety the dropping of the False Flag shoe between now and election day.
Neil Stephenson’s Cryptonomicon is a good one. Pretty much any cyberpunk, including Pat Cadigan’s Tea From An Empty Cup touches on some of this. Lots, actually…
The money’s certainly an issue, and I’ve noted before, as have several others here, that it’s not really telecomm immunity, it’s actually Bush Administration immunity. The latter explains Bush’s support of this bill, but not Congressional Republicans’. At least, it doesn’t explain near universal support.
Well, sorry to run, but I really do have to get out of here. Wrote my congresscritter, BTW, and I also posted a note at my blog. Let’s hope this works this time.
Thanks for keeping after this, Christy.
which is why I believe they have no intentions of allowing elections
don’t forget, the only stop gap we had for war in Iran has just retired
hang on to hats
We hate it when THEY play the fear card.
That was my thought as well. Why bang the inverse fear drum? Education is so much more constructive.
Christy,
After watching the Mark Klein interview yesterday, I have been adding to my faxes and emails re: no immunity or basket warrants -just rule of law, the request for Klein and Pasdar to give testimony before Congress.
I have also sent thank you letters to Klein and Pasdar care of the EFF.
Perris @45 -
I agree with you. With the election so near these guys aren’t banking on “maybe we’ll win”. They know it’s a sure thing. It won’t be by popular vote or anything near it but via some other means. SOBs.
If the House passes it, Chimpy will veto it, then what?
Send it back as is, as many times as it takes to get it through to the republics that this unconstitutional piece of legislation will NOT pass ever.
they are setting the table, the will attack Iran, of this we are already informed
if that happens there will be no election
Thanks, siri…
No, if he vetoes it – don’t do anything — don’t bother with any more bills, leave FISA just the way it originally was.
Gives people something to do I guess.
No, we have not already been informed that there will be an attack on Iran. We know that there is a faction of government that has advocated that within the Bush Administration and the neocon policy advisor folks. We also know that there has been strong pushback among the diplomatic and military corps AGAINST this, as well as from a lot of the intel community.
Really, we have enough to deal with without going twenty steps down a road we may very likely never take…and elections are going to happen, so we’d better get our asses in gear and work on them for state, local, and Congressional candidates. Now, not later. Because you can be damned sure that the wurlitzer is gearing up for this election cycle…
Philip Dick, authro of “When Angels Dream of Sheep,” which Bladerunner (1982) was based on…one of my most fsavorite movies..the future, it’s all there, with the dystopia and all…
I likes they way you think Redd, but that ain’t news.
Actually, it was “Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?” — and his work is fantastic and incredibly thought-provoking. I highly recommend the read.
Hope you feel better soon, btw. Any better today?
I know who Bush and his ilk are and they will veto it. I have no illusions about that. His Repugs will walk in lock step. The pseudo Bush dogs will walk in lock step. Will Harry Reid talk with members of the House and convince them to do what he does in the Senate? I don’t know. Where does Nancy stand on this, realistically, not for cameras? I don’t know.
Just let Bush’s veto stand. Otherwise, it becomes an act of Congress.
I called my worse than useless Congressman, Cliff Stearns, but I’m sure it wont’ do any good? Can we please get an ActBlue candidate in FL-6?
I also called all six of the Blue Dogs in our poll and told them we have raised quite a bit of money on this issue and that their vote today will have a big say in how we spend it.
different strokes for different folks… lots of people working on anti-war organizing and not electoral politics, and visa-versa. it’s all good, but none of us have to do it all.
call made; … i hope it helps persuade Rep Jim Cooper (D-TN) to vote against any bill which may include Telecom immunity. as mentioned often before, legal corporate activity requires no immunity or “protection from liability”.
Oh yeah — I’m not saying that anti-war work isn’t valuable. It is. Very much so. So is election reform work and accountability on votes, etc.
But standing around frozen, terrified that we are going to war with Iran or that the election isn’t going to happen gets us nowhere but spinning in fear circles. And I just don’t have the time or energy for it today…I’ve been o the damned phone all day trying to get ahead of the FISA vote and figure out whaich maneuver is real, and which is a fake out from the GOP…it’s been crazy today.
Thanks for that correx–always can’t get that title right…I saw the movie not read the story…
I get better everyday, by increments…some kinda viral infection, as my doc told me. I had flu-like symptoms, they took tests.. came out negative for flu…something going around in the Twin Cities that;s for sure. A lot of my friends here have something or other..and my HealthPartners clinic said a lot of people have been coming in with the same symptoms as mine…oh well…
Hope everyone in your family is OK..especially The Peanut…
Thanks for all the hard work. It is very appreciated.
If you want to know whether they’re planning an attack on Iran, read this, from The American Conservative, Aug. 1, 2005 issue.
BTW Christy,
Thank you SO much for all you efforts on FISA and retroactive immunity. Your depth of effort partnered with others (i.e. Glenn, Jane, EW, and all in the threads) has been true democracy in action.
Thank you.
OT Joe Sestak has a really strong opponent this time around. Any help you can give will be appreciated.
christy…. when i wrote “no one has to do it all,” i wish that could mean you too. was just recently thinking about what causes burnout and how we can help each other avoid it.
(((christy)))
christy, I don’t want to take this off topic and I agree we need to make these elections count but please read scott ritter and then a must read the true story of the bilderberg group
that is an incredible story and I hope you can get the author for a book salon
I believe they will make sure they will attack Iran before their term is over and bush today actually bragged about engaging war on two fronts as if the more fronts the better
I won’t bring this up again and would have emailed these links to you but sometimes you don’t get the mail
will return to actual thread
sorry about the ot
Just got off the phone with Devin Nunes staff. These people spin so hard it’s no wonder they act brainless. This is one republic that needs to go. Sadly he just got another term.
Has Sean Hannity apologized for all Christians on the news that a Rwandan priest was convicted of abetting genocide in the killing of 1,500 ethnic Tutsis?
I mean we’re waiting and the silence is defeaning.
-G
*Playing the collective guilt game often used against all Muslims.
A faction of the government planning something, and the entire government being behind it are two different things. See Sy Hersh’s report from 2007 on the morphing planning/strategery/attempts to convince on Iran/Iraq ad the Bush Administration for a peek at some of the competing undercurrents, just for starters. The neocons are not the entire government…no matter how much they would like to convince themselves and everyone else that they are.
I’m hoping there are lots of calls going out. On my first try to Space’s office, it rang many, many times and nobody answered. The second try went through okay.
FWIW, when they had to scrape to rotate 30,000 troops back into Iraq for the surge, I really don’t know where we have anything, other than nuclear weapons, to conduct a war with Iran. The troops we have in Iraq or barely able to hold their own now, without a million or so Shiite Iranians pouring over the border. Frankley, I think Fallon was just saying openly what any military commander would say quietely, while still arguing that “all options are open.”
Jeebus, my representative is Dan Lungren.
We need to support Bill Durston, the dem, running against this moron.
How do I get Dr. Durston on the radar with the progressive netroots community?? He is our perfect candidate, an er doc, a V. war veteran, wants the troops home yesterday, and lobbies actively for universal health care. Bill served on the Board of Directors of the San Francisco Bay Area Chapter of Physicians for Social Responsibility from 1999-2003, and he helped re-form the Sacramento chapter in 2003.
And he is making headway in a very conservative part of Cali. Can we have him on FDL?
I think sometimes we get away from what this is really all about; Darth and the Gang staying out of jail.
No immunity means televised hearings where a lot of unsavory (and most likely illegal) things will undoubtedly come out.
You can tell they’re feeling the heat on their backsides because of how often they send Pres. McFlightsuit out to say “Boo!”
Gas prices hitting new highs everyday? Not an effing word.
But “Terrists on the phone!”, almost every day.
yeah tough…you’ve done your best, and that’s all anyone can do. Personally, I don’t think this stupid admin can afford to take us to war in Iraq…but Chimpy’s crazy, so he’s not flying straight…And Cheney has no horizon..he’s doesn’t give a shit what people think of him..never has. So he’s playing an end-game. He’s a dangerous fella…he’s got nothing to lose…
As for me, my being sick has put me on the sidelines for now…composing on my lptop doesn’t really involve much physical effort…so..
Asked a republican friend how they felt about terrorists invading our country in a cyber attack where they were able to listen to any citizen’s telephone calls or grab anyone’s email?
Response from friend, “That would be terrible. See that’s exactly what we need to fight against.”
My response, “I know, I agree. So call your rep and let them know that you are against retroactive immunity…”
Then it was….crickets…
Fallon was saying opening what the majority of military commanders in positions of authority have been saying privately. And repeatedly, from what I’ve been hearing. The Army and the Marines are stretched beyond thin, and the only people remotely contemplative of any sort of strike on Iran are the “true believers” in the Air Force — and even that is a far from unified sentiment. I’m not saying it isn’t a possibility given how utterly craptastic and insane the decision-making process has been with these idiots for long-term problem considerations…but it is not high on the likely things to happen in the near future list in my mind.
And we need to sometimes take a step back and put some perspective on all of this, especially given that a general election is fast approaching and an attack on Iran would piss off the entire GOP establishment on which Shrub is going to have to shortly depend for any exorbitant speaking fee kick-backs and cushy book deal payoffs to enhance his brush-cutting lifestyle choices. Same for Dick. Doesn’t mean they won’t do stupid shit, lord knows, but I think there are a number of factors in play that lean away from doing something this utterly moronic at this time…
And it seems like we’re seeing signs that the daily song and dance about terrists is wearing thin, getting Foster elected being a prime example. As much as it churns my stomach everytime i see him talking about it, i’m tempted to say, let him keep it up, keep delaying, more leaks about domestic spying will come out, he’ll look more and more the fool.
Don’t rely on the MSM for any help or clarity on this vote, it’s wall-to-wall hooker milking. Media cows, read your scripts, babee-s… the only difference between you and the scandal woman of the hour is….
oh, wait a minute, there is no difference.
The rethugs are actually STILL running that ad. The one telling everyone that we are all at risk cause Congress won’t do it’s job and pass the Senastes version of FISA. I read that their coffers are really low. so they’re paying out all that money to run the “scarey ad” and why aren’t they putting that into McCain’s campaign? Because for some reason still unknown to the majority of us, telecom immunity is a total survival issue for the Bu$h/Cheney Crime Family! In any case, I’m HIGHLY INSULTED and angry that that bs comes into my living room during the 5PM news(MT, CNN).
Did I just see Cheney at the desk in the senate????? Looks like it got turned over to Tester now. GAWD! 1/20/09 can NOT get here soon enough!
another means to apply pressure:
I like to fax their largest non-pac contributor and cc the congr.
eg, just sent one to Heath Shuler’s sugardaddy Phillips & Jordan (almost double the nearest contr.)
my fax to the contrib. asks why they would send money to someone advocating the Federal Govt. vacuuming up all their financial/proprietary data all the time
in Shuler’s case, I specifically asked if ol Heath could guarantee them their competitors would never have access to their bid info
all the contribution 411 is available at opensecrets dot org
It may feel like that but I didn’t see anyone here frozen in fear. I see them gearing up to prevent rather than react after the fact. I appreciate all the attention on FISA and I keep in mind what Frank Church said in 1978. FISA hits me and my family. I consider it extremely important. I don’t play on the legal and procedural side because this is not my forte. There are people better at that and I count on their expertise.
As for frozen in fear. FISA has a better chance of doing that than Iran because it won’t be me that loses any blood in Iran. I’ll just feel the shame. And, I am appreciative of the heavy lifting you are doing on FISA. It doesn’t go unnoticed even if not always expressed. For that I take responsibility for being remiss.
There are dedicated people out there protesting any talk of invading Iran. I support them as well. I assure you not one of them is frozen in fear. They stand strong, determined and bold.
I agree fully. I don’t think even Bush and Cheney are that crazy, but I’ve thought that before. Still, I’m more worried at present about the Democratic Party splitting along racial and gender lines.
Excellent !
Absolutely GREAT idea.
707!
I second that motion. Ms p and I attended his “Health Care Not Warfare” meeting with Norm Solomon on Friday. He is such a breath of fresh air, especially after having to put up with Dan Lundgren and before that Doug Ose (who, by the way is rising up from his coffin, for a shot against Charlie Brown, just what the Central Valley needs, a carpetbagging vampire).
Christy while I agree with the spirit and the logic of what you say, I am always overwhelmed by the sheer detachment from reality exhibited the Bush/Cheney cabal.
Logic rarely dictates.
-G
That being said, I still think the US will launch strikes on Iranian military facilities in the aftermath of a large scale attack on US military in Iraq.
These idiots think they’ll be able to pull off a Bill Clinton style cruise missile diplomacy hit and the Iranians will be frightened and jump back in the box.
Idiots.
Are you in District 3? I am in RC. Lets work together for Bill. my email is mary at dahothouse dot com.
Christy,
Are you guys going to approach the CCIA for a donation to the FISA action fund? Don’t forget their letter from a couple of weeks ago:
These are some companies with very deep pockets, after all.
They have a reduced window of opportunity, about 7 weeks now that Fallon is gone in which the moon, the Israelis, and American troop levels in Iraq are all lined up. I reiterate that the most likely scenario is an Israeli attack, an Iranian response, and us piling on.
i thought invading iraq was beyond stupid (and there was establishment R push back then too), but cheney et al. don’t think the way i do… so imo, anything is possible. not advocating freezing in panic, that won’t help anything.
Yep, we’re across the river in Carmichael. Sounds good, I’ll drop you an e-mail.
Yeah, well…you and me both on that one. But there’s been considerably more pushback from a whole host of fronts on no more idiocy. And I’m hoping that forced pause — and the decreased window that Hugh points to above — will continue to decrease probability. But it’s Cheney we’re talking about…so who the hell knows, unfortunately.
In any case, I’m still going to keep on working to roll back the stupid where I can. And to kick their asses in the upcoming elections. Any hope we have for reform rests on getting more reform-minded people in office to both check and balance…and to find some measure of accountability where we can.
Made the call. My guy, Jim Moran, has been strong on this, but I thought Webb was too, so it’s always good to keep up the pressure. (I’m hoping to corner Webb at a fundraiser at the end of the month and ask him (politely) what the heck he was thinking.)
Hey Biodun, feel better. There’s some crap going around the TCs that’s just knock-down NASTY. Like you had to come back from the continent to catch an exotic flu bug here.
I got Jane’s mass email the other day on the FISA vote and I sent some more cash to Blue America, but I got to admit the tone of the letter was depressing; pretty much a, “We know we’re going to lose this one but let’s marshal our forces for the ongoing war.”
Well, I hope the House finds a backbone somewheres and we just don’t give it up!
current Chair of the Joint Chiefs, Admiral Mullen 10/22/7
transcript link
now, where were we ? oh yeah – 3 ringy dingy . . .4 ringy dingy
Unfortunately, it’s not the official Republican groups (the ones whose coffers are low) that are wasting their money on the ads, it’s people like the Swiftboat crowd. Still, wingnut money wasted is wingnut money wasted, and it may still reduce the amount they’re willing to spend on elections.
Okay, just popped on some Mozart and am settling in for a few more phone calls this afternoon. Went out to get the mail and it is absolutely gorgeous outside today. Nice day to kick some constitutional butt…here’s hoping, anyway.
Don’t worry about the future and what the bad guys might do. So long as our guys do what’s best, then we’re on the right track.
We do have a problem with Bush, but that is in the process of being cured. Elect Dems, push Congress to do the right thing, tell off the media for being stupid, etc.
That’s the spirit!!
Hey, just took your idea and somewhat reversed it.
I sent my letter to my congressperson and asked if they were able to “protect” the information of “X, Y and Z companies” who were his top donors because a vote for immunity means advocating the Federal Govt. vacuuming up all their financial/proprietary data all the time. (cc’d each companies CEO).
The top contributors are also top employers in our fair city. Explained that ANY violation of their proprietary information could put the company out of business and leave many citizens in his district jobless.
Closed with the concern of the risk of corporate espionage being larger than ever and that this was his chance to close the irresponsible fire hydrant force of Federal information gathering and protect his constituents and his donors rights as well as interests.
I called my critter. Salazars. BOTH of them. Rep. John’s local office told me they don’t know how he’s going to vote on FISA. That they are there to hear from us, i.e. AS OPPOSED to talking TO us. His staff member said “We don’t know what he’s going to do on this, HE’S HIS OWN MAN.” Whatever the hell that means. I told him yes, John’s his own man, when dealing with his own private issues. Meanwhile, he’s OUR MAN, elected by the people of the 3rd District to represent us, and a vote for telecom immunity is not what we had in mind. Ever. Who writes this stuff????
Wonderful!
Called 2x (busy), emailed. For all the good, Rep. is Heather Wilson (R). Also sent note of encouragement to Tom Udall, not my district, but can’t hurt.
Text of emails (somewhat modified for Wilson)
Appalling is the breadth of the illegal spying on Americans, as detailed in the recent Wall Street Journal article. Equally shocking is the FBI admission that they continue to misuse “blanket” national security letters under the Patriot Act.
The House bill on FISA looks promising and settles the issues claimed. Let Bush veto it and reveal (again) his real agenda (e.g. covering his ass in illegal deeds).
Overall, congress has been an extreme embarassment in not standing up to clear violations of law and utter contempt by the Administration. It is past time to turn that around.>
Excellent response.
He’s his own man? What are they thinking!
Sorry, paste of entire message to congress critters failed. You get the gist….
Phone: Ring ring ring!
Bush: Hello. What? No, I haven’t seen bin Laden.
Bush: Hey, why are you laughing? Stop it.
Bush: That’s not nice. Osama, is that you?
Bush: Didn’t I tell you to stop calling me?
Just called my rep’s local office (Baird-WA). Nice woman, didn’t know how Baird would vote (argh) but said the office had received a number of calls this morning on FISA. Now I’m going to call the six Bush Dogs. That should be fun.
Thanks for all of your good work, Christy and Firepups!
That seems an odd response from John’s office. He’s made public statments lately that seem pretty firm against immunity and executive overreach. I’m not excited about Ken getting another crack at voting for immunity, he’s not someone i’m feeling very confident about on this issue. He’s stabbed us in the back a few times on PAA/FISA.
Heading for my phone – just noticed – Indiana’s Andre Carson being sworn in by Pelosi on C-Span…NICE!
Ooh – this is getting better – Cong. Carson making his maiden speech — mentions bringing home the troops as the best way to honor the dead and wounded. Next, middle class housing relief. Oh, and I think the first thing he mentioned was the loss of 63k jobs.
I LIKE this man!
cbl2 at 84–
thanks! i wanted something else to try, i liiiiiiiiiike that, thanks. we can ’melanie morgan’ them! spocko them!