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		<title>By: theresa43</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/12/the-ferraro-fiasco/#comment-1331834</link>
		<dc:creator>theresa43</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You obviously no nothing of Hillary’s background.   She did not grow up of wealthy or privaleged parents — She was middle class in regular neighborhoods, public schools, regular people all the way.  So watch what you say and make it the truth.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You obviously no nothing of Hillary’s background.   She did not grow up of wealthy or privaleged parents — She was middle class in regular neighborhoods, public schools, regular people all the way.  So watch what you say and make it the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: rdwdkw</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/12/the-ferraro-fiasco/#comment-1331697</link>
		<dc:creator>rdwdkw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with you completely and wonder how different it might be if Obama was an full blooded American Indian, how many ”real” cowboys would say they always liked them indians,no kidding…….&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you completely and wonder how different it might be if Obama was an full blooded American Indian, how many ”real” cowboys would say they always liked them indians,no kidding…….</p>
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		<title>By: theresa43</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/12/the-ferraro-fiasco/#comment-1331683</link>
		<dc:creator>theresa43</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Please, someone tell me what is so wrong or “racist” for stating the obvious ( which probably does not need to be stated) that the Black RACE is voting for Obama in record numbers, most solely because he is black.  Is putting the word black into this mix of words which make it so wrong and racist.    I just don’t see it and I don’t agree that it is offensive.  It would be like me saying I voted for JFK because he was Catholic.  May not be the best political reason, but admire me because it is the truth.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, someone tell me what is so wrong or “racist” for stating the obvious ( which probably does not need to be stated) that the Black RACE is voting for Obama in record numbers, most solely because he is black.  Is putting the word black into this mix of words which make it so wrong and racist.    I just don’t see it and I don’t agree that it is offensive.  It would be like me saying I voted for JFK because he was Catholic.  May not be the best political reason, but admire me because it is the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: kittykitty</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/12/the-ferraro-fiasco/#comment-1330906</link>
		<dc:creator>kittykitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The only one post on this whole list that got it right? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i’m scooting back down the rabbit hole&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only one post on this whole list that got it right? </p>
<p>i’m scooting back down the rabbit hole</p>
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		<title>By: HooliaG</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/12/the-ferraro-fiasco/#comment-1330833</link>
		<dc:creator>HooliaG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was really afraid tonight about how bad Olbermann was going to slam Clinton. I feel reassured that he slammed Ferraro (who deserves it) and appealed to Clinton’s better nature. I almost put those last two words in quotes, but I do want to believe that she has one.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was really afraid tonight about how bad Olbermann was going to slam Clinton. I feel reassured that he slammed Ferraro (who deserves it) and appealed to Clinton’s better nature. I almost put those last two words in quotes, but I do want to believe that she has one.</p>
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		<title>By: Mauimom</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/12/the-ferraro-fiasco/#comment-1330799</link>
		<dc:creator>Mauimom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Gene McCarthy was the candidate in 1968 who took on Lyndon Johnson. Once Johnson said “I will not run, I will not accept…” Bobby Kennedy stepped in.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1968 was the first election in which I voted.  I was SO pissed @ Humphrey &amp; the Democrats over Vietnam that I did what some are threatening to do now: I voted for a third [the “Peace &amp; Freedom”] party.  That got us Nixon.  Needless to say, I look upon those voicing such threats now with concern.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1968 was a heart-breaking time: Martin Luther King’s death in April, Bobby Kennedy’s death in June, violence @ the Democratic Convention in Chicago, and the draft &amp; Vietnam hanging over us all. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thus I worry about our scene now.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Gene McCarthy was the candidate in 1968 who took on Lyndon Johnson. Once Johnson said “I will not run, I will not accept…” Bobby Kennedy stepped in.</p>
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<p>1968 was the first election in which I voted.  I was SO pissed @ Humphrey &amp; the Democrats over Vietnam that I did what some are threatening to do now: I voted for a third [the “Peace &amp; Freedom”] party.  That got us Nixon.  Needless to say, I look upon those voicing such threats now with concern.</p>
<p>1968 was a heart-breaking time: Martin Luther King’s death in April, Bobby Kennedy’s death in June, violence @ the Democratic Convention in Chicago, and the draft &amp; Vietnam hanging over us all. </p>
<p>Thus I worry about our scene now.</p>
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		<title>By: 1divasinger</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/12/the-ferraro-fiasco/#comment-1330743</link>
		<dc:creator>1divasinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;But you haven’t been bought, right? My reasoning is clear and sound. I worked for every Clinton campaign since 1992. Hard. Phone banked, put out fliers, yard signs, and got people to the polls. I was with her until I paid attention, read, researched and woke up. What I have bought is truth. Not spin. Not “vaginal” solidarity or entitlement. Now, what you call nonsense is on the public record too. You want to debate facts, cool. No problem. But I am sick and tired of the obvious being turned into some sort of triangulating spin! I watched 60 Minutes. I was stunned by her performance. I watched it again and again. Too cute by half is not even close to what I would describe her being! Save it for someone who was not there for her and her husband, defending them for 16 years. Some of us have actually gone back and looked at the lies, the spin, the reality. You might think this has been easy for me. You would be wrong! I suggest that you evaluate your own reasoning and not question mine. Perhaps you will come to a different conclusion. Perhaps not. I repeat…”I won’t be fooled again!” That’s not “too late” baby. That’s right on time!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But you haven’t been bought, right? My reasoning is clear and sound. I worked for every Clinton campaign since 1992. Hard. Phone banked, put out fliers, yard signs, and got people to the polls. I was with her until I paid attention, read, researched and woke up. What I have bought is truth. Not spin. Not “vaginal” solidarity or entitlement. Now, what you call nonsense is on the public record too. You want to debate facts, cool. No problem. But I am sick and tired of the obvious being turned into some sort of triangulating spin! I watched 60 Minutes. I was stunned by her performance. I watched it again and again. Too cute by half is not even close to what I would describe her being! Save it for someone who was not there for her and her husband, defending them for 16 years. Some of us have actually gone back and looked at the lies, the spin, the reality. You might think this has been easy for me. You would be wrong! I suggest that you evaluate your own reasoning and not question mine. Perhaps you will come to a different conclusion. Perhaps not. I repeat…”I won’t be fooled again!” That’s not “too late” baby. That’s right on time!</p>
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		<title>By: Patrickson</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/12/the-ferraro-fiasco/#comment-1330689</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If only we had equal standards in all this.  Obama should condemn &lt;em&gt;Axelrod&lt;/em&gt; for spreading the smear that Clinton &lt;em&gt;refused&lt;/em&gt; to answer the question of Obama’s religion by Kroft on 60 Minutes.  Her immediate response to whether Obama was a Muslim: “No, of course, not.”  She went on to talk about how she sympathizes with those who have been smeared and after repeated badgering said he wasn’t Muslim “not that I know of.”  That’s is the quote that has been ridiculously taken out of context.  Mind you, it’s impossible for her to “prove” Obama is of any religion (as it’s been impossible for Obama to do).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jesse Jackson, Jr. was never fired.  No one was fired over D-Punjab.  Obama never renounced the UNITE-HERE ad nor did he distance himself from the highly inflammatory remarks of supporters Michael Eric Dyson after NH (accusing Clinton voters of likely being racists and stating every criticism of Obama is “racial in subtext”) or Dick Harpootlian in SC (comparing Bill to Lee Atwater).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also: can someone from the Democratic party put a stop to the presumption that being Muslim is a smear?  Please.  Enough.  There’s no other way to counter it without attacking the bigotry at its root.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lastly, people here need to ask themselves, “Why would Clinton do something that repeatedly results in her being bashed for it?”  She wouldn’t.  She’s not suicidal.  And I say this as a man of color, for crying out loud.  None of you whites understand what your confirmation bias (She’s bad, therefore, she must be guilty) does with this issue: it’s making an absolute mockery of racial justice.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;@1divasinger:  “I won’t be fooled again!”&lt;br /&gt;
Too late.  You already bought this nonsense hook, line, and sinker.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only we had equal standards in all this.  Obama should condemn <em>Axelrod</em> for spreading the smear that Clinton <em>refused</em> to answer the question of Obama’s religion by Kroft on 60 Minutes.  Her immediate response to whether Obama was a Muslim: “No, of course, not.”  She went on to talk about how she sympathizes with those who have been smeared and after repeated badgering said he wasn’t Muslim “not that I know of.”  That’s is the quote that has been ridiculously taken out of context.  Mind you, it’s impossible for her to “prove” Obama is of any religion (as it’s been impossible for Obama to do).</p>
<p>Jesse Jackson, Jr. was never fired.  No one was fired over D-Punjab.  Obama never renounced the UNITE-HERE ad nor did he distance himself from the highly inflammatory remarks of supporters Michael Eric Dyson after NH (accusing Clinton voters of likely being racists and stating every criticism of Obama is “racial in subtext”) or Dick Harpootlian in SC (comparing Bill to Lee Atwater).</p>
<p>Also: can someone from the Democratic party put a stop to the presumption that being Muslim is a smear?  Please.  Enough.  There’s no other way to counter it without attacking the bigotry at its root.</p>
<p>Lastly, people here need to ask themselves, “Why would Clinton do something that repeatedly results in her being bashed for it?”  She wouldn’t.  She’s not suicidal.  And I say this as a man of color, for crying out loud.  None of you whites understand what your confirmation bias (She’s bad, therefore, she must be guilty) does with this issue: it’s making an absolute mockery of racial justice.</p>
<p>@1divasinger:  “I won’t be fooled again!”<br />
Too late.  You already bought this nonsense hook, line, and sinker.</p>
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		<title>By: 1divasinger</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/12/the-ferraro-fiasco/#comment-1330638</link>
		<dc:creator>1divasinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have sadly learned that there are elements in the Democratic Party that are neither Progressive or Liberal. Until we clean our own house of the win at all costs,triangulating,self serving,old-ass bigots…we can’t claim that the sick republicans are the sole party destroying this country. Say what you want about young people, they are sick to death of our old asses polluting this country with our greenhouse gases and our closeted bigotry. I for one am glad that the windbag blew the lid off of the Wolfson-Rove-Clinton strategy. I am just sad that it took me so long to learn who the Clintons really are. I won’t be fooled again!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have sadly learned that there are elements in the Democratic Party that are neither Progressive or Liberal. Until we clean our own house of the win at all costs,triangulating,self serving,old-ass bigots…we can’t claim that the sick republicans are the sole party destroying this country. Say what you want about young people, they are sick to death of our old asses polluting this country with our greenhouse gases and our closeted bigotry. I for one am glad that the windbag blew the lid off of the Wolfson-Rove-Clinton strategy. I am just sad that it took me so long to learn who the Clintons really are. I won’t be fooled again!</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/12/the-ferraro-fiasco/#comment-1330613</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ironically as this story was breaking the other big story was the Mississippi primary where the pundits crowed about Obama getting 90% of the Black vote. There is no way this would happen if he were white. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Joe- Are you saying that if an white individual won Mississippi by gaining 90% of the black vote there wouldn’t be something said? I think it was, when Jimmy Carter won that vote in 1976. But even then the numbers of black voters were not some incredible.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You seem to lack any historical reference about what happened in Mississippi in the early ’60’s. Blacks were essentially forbidden to vote through a whole host of literacy laws, poll taxes, absence of convenient polling sites, bureaucratic malfeasance and outright violent intimidation. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At the beginning of yesterdays vote the estimates by the media and the Missssippi Sect’y of State were that about 125,000 Democratic voters would come out. It was thought that Obama mighgt get maybe as high as 55%. But because of the SIZE of the African-American vote the numbers were over 400,000 voters.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now are you saying that if a white candidate drew 75% of the White vote someone should suggest the vote was racist? That’s what you seem to be suggesting regarding Obama. Guess who won over 75% of the white vote (including 75% of the Republican white cross-over voters?).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Ironically as this story was breaking the other big story was the Mississippi primary where the pundits crowed about Obama getting 90% of the Black vote. There is no way this would happen if he were white. </p>
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<p>Joe- Are you saying that if an white individual won Mississippi by gaining 90% of the black vote there wouldn’t be something said? I think it was, when Jimmy Carter won that vote in 1976. But even then the numbers of black voters were not some incredible.</p>
<p>You seem to lack any historical reference about what happened in Mississippi in the early ’60’s. Blacks were essentially forbidden to vote through a whole host of literacy laws, poll taxes, absence of convenient polling sites, bureaucratic malfeasance and outright violent intimidation. </p>
<p>At the beginning of yesterdays vote the estimates by the media and the Missssippi Sect’y of State were that about 125,000 Democratic voters would come out. It was thought that Obama mighgt get maybe as high as 55%. But because of the SIZE of the African-American vote the numbers were over 400,000 voters.</p>
<p>Now are you saying that if a white candidate drew 75% of the White vote someone should suggest the vote was racist? That’s what you seem to be suggesting regarding Obama. Guess who won over 75% of the white vote (including 75% of the Republican white cross-over voters?).</p>
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