zed for The Change

sad yes, but it’s geared towards that ‘alabama’ strip in PA. i don’t think they (clinton campaign) is going to say anything stronger than they already have (it’s a vote getter, afterall) and if Maggie Williams response is any indication, I can’t see too many folks forgiving her by the time the GE rolls around (if she gets the nod)

I, for one, have stopped defending Hillary. I feel so much freer!

Thanks Pach, cuz I really wanted to pile on, too. I first saw GF’s unhappy little face on Newshour last week, waxing illogically about superdelegates and re-do’s for one state but not another, etc etc. It was great to watch Bill Bradley swat her down like a hyper little Westie.

But now this. I become more and more turned off with Clinton’s campaign with each passing day. Dirty pool and don’t tell me Hilary knows nothing of it. If she gets all riled about “pimping” Chelsea (a young lady who should take questions if she’s stumping) then she should get riled about racist comments from her supporters. That’s not what the Democratic Party stands for. Just ridiculous.

Let’s all send the Clintons some mother-effin ice tea.

Ferraro was on billo’s radio smear show yesterday. It was a hatchet job on her part, no question about it.

Billo: Blah blah blah, you’ll get blasted by the far left loons…

Ferraro: Blah blah blah, let me restate my talking point…

Not new views though:

A Ferraro flashback

“If Jesse Jackson were not black, he wouldn’t be in the race,” she said.

Really. The cite is an April 15, 1988 Washington Post story (byline: Howard Kurtz), available only on Nexis.

Here’s the full context:

Placid of demeanor but pointed in his rhetoric, Jackson struck out repeatedly today against those who suggest his race has been an asset in the campaign. President Reagan suggested Tuesday that people don’t ask Jackson tough questions because of his race. And former representative Geraldine A. Ferraro (D-N.Y.) said Wednesday that because of his “radical” views, “if Jesse Jackson were not black, he wouldn’t be in the race.”

Asked about this at a campaign stop in Buffalo, Jackson at first seemed ready to pounce fiercely on his critics. But then he stopped, took a breath, and said quietly, “Millions of Americans have a point of view different from” Ferraro’s.

Discussing the same point in Washington, Jackson said, “We campaigned across the South . . . without a single catcall or boo. It was not until we got North to New York that we began to hear this from Koch, President Reagan and then Mrs. Ferraro . . . . Some people are making hysteria while I’m making history.”

Haven’t we already had 8 years of doing anything to win?

Well, I’ll vote for Clinton in the GE if she is the nominee and facing McSame. But that’s all I will do. No money, no phone banking. Hillary can get Maggie Williams and G.Ferraro to do any necessary work in the trenches.

More dog whistle stuff to shore up some of the Penn. white racist vote. They’re thinking it worked well with the Muslim stuff in OH/TX, so let’s double down.

Seems so blatantly obvious, especially since Hillary won’t “denounce” Ferraro’s comments or kick her off the campaign. In fact, they have Ferraro repeat them more and more to the Poz Newz audience! See a trend here? They are going on Lush Limpdick’s show, and Pox Newz like crazy recently to blow the dog whistles. Shameful!

BTW, Ferraro seems to think her comments are OK since she said she wouldn’t have been picked as VP candidate if she wasn’t a woman. What about her abilities and accomplishments? Where is the outrage with feminists demanding Hillary remove Ferraro from the campaign for such sexist comments!?!?

Olbermann has promised a Special Comment regarding the Clinton campaign this evening.

Isn’t this part of pattern set by Bill Clinton a few weeks ago, after all? Particularly the part about not disavowing said verbal vomit.

…or repudiating.

Isn’t Ferraro just riffing on the idea that Obama is being “uppity”?

Anybody under the delusion that the Clinton campaign has not been cynically playing the race card should be fully disabused of that notion as of today.

Thank you, Pach.

This is waaaay out of bounds.

Someone needs to tell Clinton’s campaign in no uncertain terms will she be allowed to tear the party apart (Gore, Edwards, Richardson - preferably all): Stop the divisive tactics or they publicly get behind Obama 100% and shut her campaign down. She has been given a reprieve by the Superdelegates to make her case for the fall elections. If she uses it to win the battle while losing the war (and betraying all democratic principles in the process), she needs to be told that she will not be allowed to win the nomination. End of story.

I can’t say that anymore as I refuse to reward ’southern dixiecrat’ tactics

I hear ya on the dog whistle but I’m hoping it blows up in their face. Big Time. Major backlash.

This is the crap Americans are so sick of.

What the Clintons are doing is right out of Rove/Chimpy playbook.

Revolting.

I’d be interested to know how many former supporters of Hillary there are out there.

CNN claiming 41 Southwest planes have been grounded. Apologies if this is not really *breaking* newz.

I like that idea but it’s a shame that she has to be told that, afterall, it’s not like she doesn’t know any better

I used to be in this line of thinking as well, but now I don’t know if I’ll vote at all if she’s the nominee. She doesn’t deserve it anymore.

OT - I need to get this on record. Last night, there was a guy named Carlo who showed up saying that Andre Carson, the grandson of Julia Carson, the late Congresswoman for IN7, and who was elected yesterday elected to fill out the remainder of Julia’s term, was a Muslim. This was something that had *never* been reported in the blood-red Indy press, and I more or less accused him of being a troll.

Turns out that he was right - I was wrong, and though I doubt that he’s here, I owe him an apology.

So Carlo, if you happen to see this, I apologize.

For the record, it is NOW being reported in the IndyStar; I had seen nothing about this before. Begs the question as to timing, but I’ll look at that later.

That is all.

The basis of the pattern of her remarks is that black people can’t be serious contenders in any race…that they are given special treatment because of their race, and cannot have any “real” (read white) credentials.

That’s racist.

Yeah. where’s that “superior judgment” and “experience”?

Were the Clintons always this way or does it come from now being pals with the Bush family?

nice of you to do that, if I see him later on, I will direct him to your comment

I think we are being too hard on Ferraro. She probably really does think Obama would be happier barefoot down on the old plantation picking cotton.

BTW, C&L has a thread on Ferraro/Billo with hundreds of comments. People are pissed.

BTW, thanks Pach
I can’t speak for the rest but I needed to get my disappoinment out (anger and sadness happened yesterday..at this rate, i should be at acceptance by the end of the day)

I swallow hard whenever I agree with Howard Fineman’s assessment of anything, but I agree - they are busy, busy, busy baiting the Obama campaign, this is intentional

if Obama weren’t Afro-American and they were still this far behind, it would be something equally incendiary

and sorry, but I can’t look at her and not see Hal Holbrooke in drag

“More dog whistle stuff to shore up some of the Penn. white racist vote. They’re thinking it worked well with the Muslim stuff in OH/TX, so let’s double down.”

Exact-a-mundo!

Scorched earth in full effect.

Nope, he is bi-racial, he would have been a house servant (real lucky)

I think Ferraro would be happier if she did the hormone therapy to deal with The Change.

There, I said it. A misogynistic remark from an old crone who is currently going through it herself! I’m mad as hell and I’m calling the Clinton campaign and Ms. Ferraro on their BS. That’s what crones do.

I can’t imagine she really believes what she is saying. I think she’s being a hard-ass for Hillary. All the more disgusting.

So Clinton is saying (through Ferraro) that a Black man is where he is because of his skin color. Then she goes into an African American neighborhood and says Black men can’t get ahead because of their skin color.

This is leadership? Whatever claim she had to the high road is forever gone.

I’m solidly in the Obama camp now. And I really was undecided until a few hours ago.

And if I seem to be flinging poo…so be it.

Ferraro is the last straw for me. Here’s what I just sent the Clinton campaign via their “contact” template:
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I previously wrote regarding my displeasure with your campaign tactics (of which I kept a copy). Now, the Geraldine Ferraro antics have pushed me over the side. The utter gall of this brazen, pompous woman, wagging her finger as she warned Barack Obama in pushback to be careful about further antagonizing her (in the wake of her smarmy, racist remarks), as HE would need HER for fundraising should he become the nominee — that has gotta exemplify the phrase “clinically deluded chutzpah.” We need look no further than the relative fundraising track records of both campaigns.

Here is what is starting to fully clarify for me. The Clinton campaign will do whatever it takes to garner the nomination, inclusive of every irrelevant lowball smear tactic that presents as opportune, and all the way up to actually stealing it via superdelegate machinations at the convention as a last resort.

Of course, it’s all for The Greater Good, and, if elected, a President Hillary would then shed for good the employment of all such slimy practices and govern in full transparency from the High Road thereafter.

Right.

You people leave no choice. I now must not only NOT support Hillary, I must use whatever political energy I have to actively oppose her candidacy. For starters, you can expect to see the contents of these messages out on the blogs. Yeah, I know; I’m just one Small Nobody. Just like Obama (were it not for his skin color).

Here was my first one:

Mrs. Clinton, your increasing stridency and now press reports that you “will not accept” things like a Michigan “re-do” caucus are driving me away from you. My wife and I were marginally in favor of you vs. Obama (we even caucused for you here), but comfortable in the aggregate with the nomination of either of you. That is no longer the case for me. In fact, if you keep up with the transparently hyperbolic negavitity and backroom machinations, I may have to sit out the general election in protest should you prevail in the nomination. I find your tactics and attitude of late patronizing. In particular, the “Red Phone” and “Ken Starr” and “Obama’s experience is limited to one speech” bits insulted my intelligence.

Very troubling. Americans have had ENOUGH of this crap.

Really pissed.

I hope you are right.

The question being: Where did Carlo did that piece of information? From a reich wing web site? That’s not a Lake name I recognize; right you were to question presence of troll.

Hi, Pach! Wasn’t it only a few days ago that you had the post about holding people accountable? It’s time to write and ask Hillary to speak about her opponents assets.

Hillary and Ferraro keep getting dirtier and dirtier, deeper and deeper in the hole they dug until no bar of soap will ever wash them clean.

This is stupid. The more desperate they become the dumber they become. These are smart people who are disenfranchising themselves. Patterson may be legally blind but he has great insight while Hillary and Ferraro have blinded souls. Nobody can help them out there. They need to head to a mountain top and meditate for a few years. Maybe they can join a Tibetan nunnery, if they’ll have them.

Yes, Hillary, there is such a thing as too late.

Hell, if she keeps this up, McCain should give her a cabinet seat (like Lieberman seems to be looking for)

Excellent. Most excellent.

She has said something simialr before (in 1988 re: Jesse Jackson) so i think that one might have to refer to her actions as a ‘pattern’

LOL Hal Holbrook in drag!

I think Obama has done just an awesome job of dealing with the Clinton/Penn slime machine with grace and humor. If he can get through that, he can get through the GOP slime machine.

They are doing him a favor by giving him the audition at the expense of their own campaign. So keep it up, slimebags. Obama just keeps looking better and better.

I used to think it was about even. But now I am firmly in Obama’s camp. Thank you Geraldine!

Does Ferraro need the Fox job more than the job she wants in the next Clintons administration. Now she gets to boost her ratings for Fox, serve on the Clintons finance committee and service what the Clintons’ think is their base. Never been much of fan of Pelosi but I stand in respect of her statement yesterday that no way do the Clintons get on the Obama ticket.

Clintons be gone, do not come back.

Hey, poo rhymes with true. You speak out! I want to hear from folks who have recently come to a an epiphany. It is a beautiful human experience, usually. Was your’s positive, even in poo-ness?

IndyStar:

Democrat Andre Carson won Tuesday’s special election to succeed his grandmother, the late U.S. Rep. Julia Carson, and fill out the final 10 months of her term.

Carson’s win makes him the first Muslim to represent Indiana in Congress, and only the second Muslim nationwide to serve there.

Carson’s 54-43 percent win, with 100 percent of the vote tallied, over Republican state Rep. Jon Elrod, was strong. But it might not have been the type of knockout blow that would fend off the competition he faces in the May 6 primary.

The campaign for that election, a mere 55 days away, begins today.

link for Pelosi statement please?

Yeah. Hillary could be Secretary of Race Relations in a McCain Admin..

You totally rock.

You people leave no choice. I now must not only NOT support Hillary, I must use whatever political energy I have to actively oppose her candidacy

I loved the whole thing but that part stood out for me as well. This is sooooo going to backfire.

On Rawstory,

Geraldine Ferraro says her comments on Barack Obama’s race being the primary reason for his success in the presidential campaign are being “spun” as racist, and she says he should be thanking her for the comments.

Fox News and Rove must be coaching her now.

If there’s any positive for the DemocratIC Party out of the Clinton campaign limping along, it’s that finally more fellow Dems are seeing the light about the Clintons and the DLC.

Jeezus…finally! I’ve been saying this since about 1995 and have spent years getting ridiculed for it. Now hopefully they’re going down forever in a blaze negative glory.

I forget which comments section I saw this, but the commenter theorized that Hil’s playing a game of “if I don’t get the nomination, then I’ll throw the general to McCain” in an attempt to set it up for herself in 2012.

Truly Machiavellian shit.

Scorched earth in full effect.

The Clinton campaign is desperate. It is banking on the notion that no matter how nasty it gets with Obama voters will still refuse to vote for another Republican and so they will have to support Clinton because they have nowhere else to turn.

LOL. I know I just did.

Boyohboy. I was so wrong about Ferraro years ago. Even felt sorry for her back then.

Does she have delusions of meanqueendeity? or is she just plain nuts?

Was she always like this? or has a marble slipped somewhere twixt the ears & the slit tongue?

or is that silt?

Go to TPM. It was there yesterday. Pelosi said that because of the Clintons claims that Obama could not be Commander in Chief, there could be no joint ticket. I don’t have it exactly right. It was a pro Obama statement.

Thanks. Anybody got the email address for Keith Olbermann / “Countdown”?

Pelosi

I am reminded of all those Shakespeare tales in which power begins losing its power and is challenged. Oh, the tales the Barb could weave on this subject. It’s amazing what it brings out in human nature. Desperation begets desperation until there is no too low to go to hold on to it. My, my, the weds we weave to ensnare ourselves.

This is all good. They all self-reveal. Obama must have them furious that he won’t play the game. How can there be a game if you refuse to play the game!

My hubby agrees with you! :)

Revising and extending my [previous/yesterday? it seems like a lifetime ago] remarks:

I denounce and reject Hillary Clinton.

It is too convenient by half to lay this on Geraldine Ferraro…that ol’ Gingerbread Boy fable has it… she is what she is, and demonstrably was in the past.

This is on Hillary Clinton. This divisiveness was her choice of campaign tactic. Her minions should all be called to denounce and reject her and this tactic as well. I’m lookin’ at you, Bill Nelson, Ed Rendell, Gov. Spitzer Corzine, et cetera, et cetera….

Just heard a conversation on MPR reminding us that 40 years ago today, Gene McCarthy upset the “rules” in the New Hampshire primary. I worked for Gene McCarthy’s national field staff. On this date back then, the outlook was positive, uplifting even. Before the darkness and hate set in. Spawned by purveyors of division.

On this date today, there’s still time to stay together, to be positive, uplifting even. But the fork in the road is coming up awfully fast.

The pattern of racist tactics of the Clinton campaign is clear. Unconscionable. And no smarmy half-assed wink and a nod smirking “tug back the reins” response from Hillary Clinton will suffice.

She should do as another politician has done today. Resign. Her campaign is on the wrong side of history. And the wrong side of honor.

Machiavellian or, perhaps, Clintonian?

Actually, I was thinking of Ferraro, but now that you mention it…..

Wow. We now have IN and MN electing Muslims to Congress. It’s a whole new era boys and girls!

Pelosi couldn’t do it, but her pal George Miller could: get signatures of a majority of Super Delegates saying they will not vote for Hillary if she and her surrogates don’t stop attacks on Obama—and deliver the msg to Hillary.

p.s. What more would you expect from “foxy” Ferraro

The original wording of it all was so bizarre, and the blowout afterward has been weirder still.
It is a good indicator of how truly messed up all politicians are. What they will use to gain, who they will attempt to walk on and make sure they are down and out before they do as they leave the room on fire behind them.
Our representatives should be held to some standards. I forgot again, sorry. They create the standard to which they refuse to comply, and they do it by law.
does your state allow you to create laws by petition and public vote? we clearly can’t rely on those that represent us to do anything if they aren’t forced to, by law.

Purely positive-Obama’s campaign has handled the bullshit with grace and wit. Even the “monster” comment seems particularly apropo now.

Also note, that Mark Penn, Hillary’s Million Dollar campaign manager is a major corrupt K-street lobbyist. Penn also has John McCain as a client through BKSH. Mark Penn and Charlie Black worked together to spread false information about Iraq WMDs.

Mark Penn is a war criminal and Hillary is a war-monger, who will wage war for the Oil Companies.

“I think Obama has done just an awesome job of dealing with the Clinton/Penn slime machine with grace and humor. If he can get through that, he can get through the GOP slime machine.”

Indeed. It recently occurred to me if he gets mud on his suit, he loses.

He’s then contradicted the whole ‘no more politics as usual’ premise of his campaign.

gawd … what a drag … i don’t like seeing clinton do this stuff. so sure she’s the right one that anything along the way is justified… grrr …

The clinton2 campaign has been embroiled in one misstep after another, a further indication that her experience is not something we need.

Ferraro should know better. When her husband was caught with his fingers in the cookie jar there were cries of “profiling” because he is of Italian descent.

Heh, I stand corrected. *g*

who’s going to say/do that? Which one of our fearless Democratic leaders? (crickets chirping).

Thank you!

A big hearty Thank You to all those in history who helped get America to this point. Obama couldn’t be where he’s at today in the Prez Race without the blood, sweat, and tears of thousands before him that helped our society become what it is today. Obama himself has said this and kudos to him for understanding where we’re at in history, and that now was his time. He didn’t listen to those saying, “Wait yer turn!”

Now if we can just get the Constitution back!

Wow. We now have IN and MN electing Muslims to Congress. It’s a whole new era boys and girls!

If I could rephrase a little We now “…. elect despite the fact that they are Muslims……” good for the voters.

I understand this is all about Pennsylvania. But, realistically, if she wins PA bu 20 percent, she still can’t win by the numbers. Does she really think the supers are going to give it to her? Is she delusional?

Certainly not Nancy or Harry. They are too busy leading the Democrats back to the minority status they covet.

Can’t remember whether I saw that piece last night or today and don’t know time what time jayt had the interaction. *Him* I know and trust….. Carlo, not at all, unless you tell me Carlo has established cred with people like you at the Lake. *g*

He’s then contradicted the whole ‘no more politics as usual’ premise of his campaign.

I think if Obama would run a daily TV ad in Penn. pointing to the “Old Politics as Usual” tactics of Hillary, he might just take the state.

Mark Penn, Howard Wolfson, and Lanny Davis are true geniuses at something.

I fully agree. I think it’s time for the superdelegates, who care about the party and country, to put an end to this crap. If the Democratic Party splits this year, with race as the issue, it will never come back and it will be to the detriment of the country. When I listened to Hillary Clinton during the debates, until the last couple, I felt reassured that she would pull the plug if it ever became apparent the campaign was putting the party at risk. Since her “McCain and I” statements, I have come to believe she will do whatever it takes to try to win.

agree.

everything they come at him with, he should ridicule and make into an ad. The add should contain bullet points of each and every kitchen sink component and should be updated as needed.

Precisely.

I just sent my first ever political contribution to Obama this morning.

You could try going through spotlight (link just above comments this page)

Um, may I speak up for Muslims? Not all Muslims are al-Qaeda. I just needed to say that.

My ancestors are Prussian and came to the country well before WWI and WWII. Not all Prussians were Nazis. Now, I know it would be kind of hard to run for President during those times, but they did a lot of patriotic work, like enlisting, and the women were top fundraisers. They were Americans first.

I just felt the need to point that out. Thanks.

“Now if we can just get the Constitution back!“

The fact that he taught constitutional law for years should help to insure at least he’ll have respect for the document.

I’ve heard tale that some POTUS called it “Just a god**mn piece of paper!”

I don’t think they’re going to get away with it.

I heard that PA voters are older. I think appealing to the Constitution and clean politics and honor would certainly be appealing. I think that is change that older voters could embrace.

Anyone see McGovern on Colbert? McGovern was the first presidential candidate I could vote for.
I actually caucused for McGovern- went with my spouse and baby- in California. (Yeah we had caucuses then.)
I had no clue what was supposed to happen in that caucus but I remember going door-to-door with the little one in the baby stroller. And I still have a McGovern bumber sticker.

Despite my involvement, I actually didn’t know or didn’t remember about all the shit that went on in the 1968 and ‘72 Democratic convention. I lived in Chicago so I remember the demonstrations and Abbie Hoffman and all that, but I didn’t remember how the candidate was selected. Did McGovern really win in the primaries in ‘68 and then the party somehow chose Humphrey? And in ‘72 did the Dems shoot themselves again with intra-party feuding and mechinations? Anyway, that bit of history is making me very nervous.

Bobby Kennedy would have won the primaries, but he was assassinated. I don’t remember if Humphrey was next in line or not.

thanks a lot Teddy for pointing out that the date of that article is TODAY.

If your aim is to point out that I’m an asshole, you’re doing quite well.

And fwiw, I believe that I mentioned above that it *was* being reported today, but had not been reported before.

Although CHS has dimissed the superdelegate issue as inconsequential in prior posts, I find it most distressing that 20% of the delegate vote at the DNC is unelected, in the form of supers and UADs. This is most undemocratic and note bene, the Repubs only have elected delegates. The Supers and UADs were a response by the likes of Mondale and Ferarro to the McGovern sweep in 72 where the hacks did not get seats on the Convention floor. Unelected delegates should apportioned based on the primary votes and caucauses. Ok, Obama loses Ted Kennedy and John Kerry, the loss of Kerry could be a blessing.

Hey guys. new thread upstairs. Careful, it’s the doughy pantload with newly flung poo.

P.S.
McGovern won the primaries, but his message was so socialist (I loved it!), Nixon destroyed him at the same time he, Nixon, was directing the Watergate break-in.

I think that the Clinton campaign is doing this on purpose, and that it’s about winning Pennsylvania.

James Carville famously said that Pennsylvania is two cities separated by Alabama. Much of the state consists of working-class whites, many of whom are no longer working, who’ve seen their income decline and resent everyone but the people actually to blame. They think affirmative action took their jobs away. They think that those latte-sipping liberal professionals don’t give a shit about them. And the Clinton campaign is hoping to win their votes, by any means. Even though this will leave them behind in pledged delegates, they hope that a big win here, as well as in a Florida revote, will persuade the superdelegates to award the top prize to Hillary and force Obama to accept the VP slot. After tearing the party apart, she’ll say that this is the only way to heal it.

Yes, this bothers me quite a bit and GF herself claims a big role making these rules way back when. sorry no link, but I heard it on the newshour two days ago.

Gene McCarthy was the candidate in 1968 who took on Lyndon Johnson. Once Johnson said “I will not run, I will not accept…” Bobby Kennedy stepped in.

George McGovern was the candidate in 1972. I don’t remember McGovern being part of the ‘68 campaign unless it was to run as a favorite son from South Dakota.

Concerning super delegates and Clinton’s hope that they favor her significantly more than Obama…

Let me point out that if party insiders go against the vote of the people, they will be turning off so many voters that the democrats may lose next election!

Clinton tries her scorched earth campaign because she is banking on the hope that people will vote for her over McCain. That is true. But there are other options out there, like not voting at all.

Sure, some will vote for Nader/Green. Some. A small percentage. But many more won’t be bothered to vote at all. The insiders will blame Nader/Green for spoiling, but in reality, it will be voter apathy and the non-vote that will make Clinton lose.

And concerning Ferraro’s comments…

Both of these campaigns have usually been pretty good at getting rid of aides and supporters, or silencing supporters, when they cross the line and attack the other candidate in a personal way.

Despite the (relative to past primaries) close count, they’ve been usually pretty good at dealing with the passions of their supporters.

Ferraro has said a few things which make Obama look like he got it all by chance or luck-of-skin. But voters, and supporters, and crowds gathered at speeches, are not produts of luck or chance. No one gets lucky every time they speak like that. No one gets that lucky with campaign contributions..

I think it’s important that Clinton says Ferraro is full of shit. Ferraro’s proximity to the campaign, and Clinton’s silence seems to indicate that Clinton is okay with Ferraro’s comments.

OK- so maybe I just misheard what the Colbert piece said.
But did McCarthy win the primaries and Humphrey became the nominee?
Who was the nominee in 1968 and how did that person get chosen?

Actually, after Bobby Kennedy was assasinated, it ended up being Humphrey versus McCarthy in 1968. Humphrey was nominated in the convention, which was conducted in the old way, prior to the McGovern reforms of 1972.

Yupper. It was wrong in 1988, and it’s wrong now.

Now MSNBC is playing apologist and spinning Ferraro….what she really meant by her comments was that Obama is lucky to get the press he’s getting…ummmm…because he’s a black man….ummm….and he shouldn’t be getting that kind of press….because he’s a black man…and that she’s congratulating him for getting the press coverage…ummm…even though he’s a black man or because he is or in spite of the fact that he is…and there’s nothing wrong with that….and Obama should kiss her white *ss.

And at some point during the convention, the nomination was offered, I think in the smoke-filled room, to Ted Kennedy who declined. I don’t recall if Humphrey was the leader in the primaries or if the smoke-filled roomers just selected him. I recall being turned-off and disappointed, but as the campaign went on, and Veep Humphrey disengaged himself from LBJ on Vietnam, I began to warm to him. If the campaign had gone on for one more week, I think Humphrey would have won. The vote was very close and Humphrey had the momentum.

The MO of the Clintons is to keep repeating their racist comments, if necessary, in the form of apologies or explanations. After the Clintons accused Obama of just being another Jesse Jackson in SC, Bill Clinton spent another week going on TV explaining and apologizing.

did you catch the name of the “reporters”?

LOL the repugs are defending her comments and stating that there is some truth to it because of the high percentage of blacks voting for him. Funny how that argumant never works in reverse and how they forget how Obama had to earn the black vote .

Does that mean that the whites that didn’t vote for him are racist? or the one who did are suffering from white guilt?