The Drum Major Institute’s middleclass.org project released their report card on congressional support for the middle class today
With a U.S. Senator set to assume the presidency for the first time since 1960, and with an eye on the 470 other federal elections scheduled for November 4th, the Drum Major Institute for Public Policy (DMI) released “TheMiddleClass.org 2007 Congressional Scorecard” today… On the positive side, the scorecard reflects an overall improvement in Congress’ support for the middle class, with 34 Senators and 199 Representatives receiving “A” grades. On the negative side, one-third of all Representatives and nearly 40% of all Senators earned “F” grades.
“The middle-class squeeze is a recurring theme among members of Congress, all of whom assert their interest in alleviating some of the burdens faced by the middle class and those struggling to earn their way into it. If that commitment was universally genuine, 99% of Congress would have received an ‘A’ this year. Clearly, that did not happen and it was the current and aspiring middle class who suffered for it,” commented DMI Executive Director Andrea Batista Schlesinger.
I won’t make you search for the spotlight quote (pdf)
As for the three top presidential contenders, Senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton each received an “A+” grade. Stunningly, Senator McCain was the only member of the Senate to receive an “incomplete” because he missed a majority of the graded votes. Even Senator Tim Johnson, who suffered a life threatening brain hemorrhage in December 2006 and did not return to the Senate until September 2007, managed to vote on 50% more pieces of critical middle-class legislation than did Senator McCain. “When it came to doing something about the middle class, Senator McCain simply wasn’t there for them,” said Ms. Schlesinger.
One of the problems with talking about middle class interests is that nobody can seem to figure out whose interests they are. I like DMI’s take on that
What Is The Middle Class?
The middle class is more than an income bracket. Over the past fifty years, a middle-class standard of living in the United States has come to mean having a secure job, the opportunity to own a home, access to health care, retirement security, time off for vacation, illness and the birth or adoption of a child, opportunities to save for the future and the ability to provide a good education, including a college education, for one’s children. When these middle-class fundamentals are within the reach of most Americans, the nation is stronger economically, culturally and democratically.
Most Americans identify themselves as middle class. Yet DMI is concerned not only with those who currently enjoy a middle-class standard of living, but also with expanding the middle class by increasing the ability and opportunities of poor people to enter the middle class. The middle class is strengthened when more poor people are able to work their way into its ranks. In a nation that is increasingly polarized between the very wealthy and everyone else, DMI sees the poor and middle class as sharing many of the same interests. Simply put: what strengthens and expands the middle class is good for America.
Or to put it another way, I got (at least some of) mine, but it’ll be worth more if you get yours. Our representatives in congress assembled, who have more than most, maybe don’t feel that way about it. You can be pretty sure, though, that their own jobs and health insurance mean a great deal to them.
So look it up (individual grades are here, and the whole report in pdf format is here. A list of the bills they followed is here). There may be good behavior you need to reward, or you may be represented by a Republican (they’re nonpartisan. I’m not). Either way, it’ll give you something to talk about in the fall, or if you’re a widget lover, something you can post on your own blog right now.
Imagine what we could do once there are sane people in the executive branch.
[FYI, DMI also has a public affairs blog and podcasts of their progressive policy seminars.]




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Aloha, Julia!
I used to be middle class – and I still vote.
Hey Julia!
interesting post
Hi Julia. Remains to be seen if I have the brains for this thread.
MIA, what a miscreant…!
great graph!
Suz, my favoritest Mod! Bonne Soir!
I am with Suzanne. Used to be middle class. Still vote.
hey ct – how’s paradise tonight? is there still a middle class or are they being wiped out there too?
Honestly, policy geekery is not really my thing, but I find these folks really accessible.
Bond: F
McCaskill: B
For my rep — Cleaver: A
Not bad, all things considered. Of course, elsewhere in MO we have one of the worst in Minority Whip Roy Blunt (a very low F). Roy’s son is the Gov, who recently (and surprisingly) announced he’s NOT running for reelection. The MO GOP is still in a dither about that one.
still middle class, still vote
right…
Heh, three of my four critters aced it with 100% scores, sadly, Inouye, scored a pathetic 83%… I’ll be working on that in 2010…! ;-)
I kind of like the idea that it’s not quaint for people who work hard to have a sense of security. It’s kind of fallen out of fashion these days, I think.
Why yes, there is an election coming up…
Hey, you.
nonplussed, want to come to lunch tomorrow? i’ll pick you up.
It seems the Plantation mentality has set in, the Have-mores determine what the have-nots can and can not do…! 8-( The Gold Coast of Kona has all the jobs, but, nobody that will work them, can live near them…!
formerly middle class – now just barely existing :o(
Hold up. I think the ad at the top of the page has Obama too dark. Is this some kind of a racist conspiracy on McCain’s part?!
i do not think we are the only ones seeing our little slice of paradise crumble into the haves and the have nots.
two of my critters (Boxer – senate and Snachez- Representative) scored 100% and the other critter (Feinstein) scored 83% –sooooooo not surprised we need to toss her out to pasture
There are no “incompletes” in life. If St. McCan’t missed that many votes, he chose to. That’s a “F”.
Julia,
It really has fallen out of favor.
I read about it during the NYC garbage strike. People were upset at the wages and benefits the workers were making. “I have a degree in x and z and I only make…”.
I just had some serious dentistry done, I am afraid it is soup for me. Thanks, I appreciate it though.
Are you saying that Ms. Feinstein is an old cow?
Let’s hope not!
Hi Mary!
I hope our nominee will use “not showing up” against McCain, especially when it comes to the middle class.
Thanks for a great post, Julia — not at all wonky! Important!
There was an article in the paper a few months ago about fewer H-2B visas being available for seasonal foreign workers, and how it was going to force people with businesses in the Hamptons to hire local.
And I couldn’t help but wonder – how terribly hard would it be to find someone to work in the Hamptons with free housing?
Hey! Newtperson!
two of my critters (Boxer – senate and Sanchez- Representative) scored 100% and A’s the other critter (Feinstein) scored 83% (also A) –sooooooo not surprised we need to toss her out to pasture
Oh, no kidding.
Bloomberg tried that with the transit strike, and New Yorkers didn’t bite. I was kind of proud of us.
when i was in the middle class, i had dental insurance and was able to have dental work done.
ice cream used to be my post dental treatment method of choice.
The middle class is more than an income bracket. Over the past fifty years, a middle-class standard of living in the United States has come to mean having a secure job, the opportunity to own a home, access to health care, retirement security, time off for vacation, illness and the birth or adoption of a child, opportunities to save for the future and the ability to provide a good education, including a college education, for one’s children. When these middle-class fundamentals are within the reach of most Americans, the nation is stronger economically, culturally and democratically.
sorry …these are no longer affordable by ..the TRUE middle class
no, of course not, old cows are still useful, feinstein not so much
right now i need 5,000 in dental work…broke 2 teeth in hurricane Wilma,i will have to fly to Mexico this summer to take care of it
My brother has worked driving heavy equipment for my cousin for the last 20 years. (My cousin’s side of the family was always considered the wealthy, uneducated side.) Last weekend I took my brother out for lunch, and he mentioned that while he got a paycheck, he was told not to cash it. This has happened for the last five weeks. What good is a paycheck if you can’t cash it or deposit it???
My side of the family has had an ongoing argument with the cousins about politics, maybe their heads will be out of the bubble soon.
Ain’t that the truth! Nor can they afford to commute, here in the Isles you can easily pay $4 a gallon, I shop around and pay $3.60… So, when will reality come crashing down upon the privileged class’s head…?
part of what went into deciding to sell the house – i can hopefully have enough money to be able to go to mexico to get my teeth fixed.
That’s illegal.
Yeah, Wikipedia has a chart on the current income distribution that kind of makes you think about the term “middle”
When the working class can no longer afford to consume…and then the whole pyramid comes crashing down.
“Hi, I’m 1929! I thought we met already!”
so he hasn’t cashed any of his checks?
I put it off. Cumulative costs are just as Sadlyyes says, $4900. I did find a plan that took 25% off of it though.
Paid $3.47 for gas today. Grocery prices make my eyes pop out. Buy clothes for 12 yr. old granddaughter that stun me. People can forget about college and vacations – they will be just be feeding the family.
hahahahahahaha
ill meetcha there…as you prolly know…the circulatory system is tied to our teeth and gums…they must be taken care of,im going on 2 years now….yea AMERICA
Arizona
2007 Middle-Class GradesPie Chart
Senators:
Kyl, Jon(R) ~ F
McCain, John(R)~ INC
Representatives:
Flake, Jeff(R, District 6) – F
Franks, Trent(R, District 2) – F
Giffords, Gabrielle(D, District 8) – A_plus
Grijalva, Raul(D, District 7) – A_plus
Mitchell, Harry(D, District 5) – B
Pastor, Edward(D, District 4) – A_plus
Renzi, Rick(R, District 1) – C
Shadegg, John(R, District 3) – F
Isn’t pretty clear…. Repug gets an F and my congressman got a B…. wow that sucks
If they are lucky.
My rep – Akins (blergh). I helped get Claire elected, but the most I can say good about her is that she’s better than Talent. She has really disappointed me on the war and FISA. My bet is that Carnahan, who will not disappoint, will run against Bond and win. The only problem is he’s not up until, I think, 2011. There are rumors that he will retire sooner, but I don’t believe any of them. However, one can hope…
Twain, will she wear second hand?
*sigh* De Ja Vu all over again! BTW, ftfy!
My then insured graduate student daughter went to the emergency room for what turned out to be an ocular migraine. She lives 10 hours away from me, you know, in graduate school. My insurance would not pay for the emergency room because “it was not in my network” you know, 10 hours away.
Problem is the gated community group doesn’t give a shit about the rest of us cause we don’t have anything they need. Like making the economy work. Like factory jobs. Etc. They make their wealth through financial games not on the labor of others.
I have a friend who runs a freight business, He was telling me local diesel at $3.95 a gallon at the local big truck fueling place.
yeah, we’re planning on planting quite the vegtable garden to offset food costs
surely you jest !
what was that study that came out a couple months ago (i think) that found most people are overly optomistic and consider themselves to be middle class when they are not or may barely be considered lower middle class?
Yes. We no longer create wealth by manufacturing products. Now we manufacture debt.
shit i have that rare malady ,i can tell her what to expect,we can compare notes…it is quite rare,and tell her not to woory too much
Eddie Bauer. They have an online outlet site that regularly holds up to 75% off sales, and frequently has free shipping promotions. They’re well-made, not cheap looking clothes, and HM pretty much lives in them. Lands End also has overstock sales that go down pretty low.
universal health care not universal health coverage – the later only give more victims for the insurance companies to screw over and fleece.
Hey, I just went to Tijuana for a dental appliance. (Mine broke, and the insurance only covers it every five years.)
I could not believe my eyes. Hadn’t been to downtown Tijuana for probably 20 years. The place is beautiful! We walked across the border, and all you see is dental, medical and pharma joints. I was absolutely shocked. It is the economy of Tijuana now. Americans everywhere. Police (and juvenile police-so cute-on every corner.) The place is clean, absolutely no trash on any street, and street signs and lights we would envy in San Diego. Mindblowing.
And, the best dental appliance I have ever had.
They might wake up, when the restaurants they frequent, theater they attend, and the service they need is non-existent…!
!!! missed your comment before mine. Contact me, I’ll take you to Dr. Gastelum.
OMG, really! It happened to her again last week, and I’m pretty freaked out.
oh goody,now to find a cheap flight
AND, she is NO LONGER insured as she aged out of my insurance.
I have a difficult time finding the right size for her on line and she’s at the age where she is out-growing everything (including shoes) about every 3 months. I would rather buy for her than for myself and I love shopping with her. At her age they have to look just right all the time.
I’d heard similar tales. People have laughed at me when I tell them that they should investigate it. Some people you can’t help.
Illegal is a sick bird.
no no ,dont worry,email me at kismecat…yahoo,its vaso motor
Careful, Southwest just grounded a bunch of their planes…! ;-)
She will be find. It is not any fun but usually not dangerous. I have them. Ron has them.
oh thank you,am saving up right now!
I cured the Calvin Klein syndrome with the teens….. idea given to me from a friend who had raised her kids….. set up bank accounts with X amount of money per month and tell them…. thats it….. don’t ask me for anything else again. It worked….. my daughter went from high end labels to k-mart brand.
See if she can get insurance through school. Fairly cheap. Better than nothing.
can she wear a small size 4,i have an outfit leggings and a pretty fleece sweater ,bought for somebody i no longer talk to…”g”
He’s told when it’s safe to cash them. Apparently my cousin gets a check, and tells the employees when they can deposit them. Sounds really bad to me. He’s got a building in an industrial park, and probably 10 expensive pieces of heavy equipment, but no income. He’ll have to give the equipment back to the bank, I’m guessing. This is his collateral. I’m thinking he may turn into a democrat.
sheeeeeeeesh you have them too?
We shop at Target and Old Navy – none of the high-end stores at all. Her special treat is to get a new t-shirt from Hot Topic.
Suz, we’ll all go to Tijuana together. It’s the best experience I’ve ever had. Seriously.
Thanks, but she is a size 10 – at least the last time we shopped. She will be here next week and heaven only knows what the size will be then. I appreciate the offer.
don’t forget to join the hot topic discount club card thingie – i remember baby girl’s hot topic days and that discount certainly helped.
they suk big time anyway,true story…i once was denied a seat by one of their stewards and his wife,while they were deadheading on a vacation…
Weird. It’s been 10-15 years since I’ve been to TJ, and that does sound amazingly different. A presidential candidate had just been assassinated before we got there, and the poverty was astounding.
You sure they didn’t just clean up an area for Americans and brush the riff-raff under a rug somewhere?
Surely sounds different from the old Tijuana which was dirty and dangerous. Makes me want to see it.
OK — I will tomorrow at work.
Heh, my middle girl has discovered Ross’s, she can get the Klein’s, even if they’re slightly irregular…!
Katymine, you should write a parenting book. Seriously, every single idea you mention here on the Lake is wonderful and makes perfect sense, but especially the ideas about kids. I mean it. Write a book, please.
i REALLY need to take care of this
Yep, me and Joan of Arc. I have had them since I was 24. I was really pregnant. Apparently, women often have their first migraine (ocular or otherwise) when they are pregnant. Hormones do the trick.
The Republiclans score was abysmal. What a surprise! They appear so compassionate. Not toward the middle class of course but the upper crust. If things get really bad just remember what someone once said, maybe it was prophetic “eat the rich!”
Thanks, I’m catching up. Let me know how you cope.
that would do it
mr wobbs just came back from an emergenmcy run to the regular grocery store and told me cxereal for $7.00 bread almost $4.00!! who the hell can affored those prices??
The ‘Factory’ outlets in San Ysidro is worth it alone…!
My mom says a lot of folks in Palm Springs area drive down to Mexico for dental treatment. A real estate agent she knows had an estimate from his dentist for over $27,000 for bridge work and repairs – he went to Mexico and got dental implants for $5,000 and was treated like a king.
We did buy a semester of insurance at University of Delaware, but have not tested it yet. Thanks Mary!
hey ,hey…1 washing and everything looks irregular”g”
Time to recirculate the story about Bush staying at the 3 billion dollar UAE hotel with all the white sand imported in from Algeria.
-G
yup,ive really researched it indepth…the hormones control the blood vessels,just like when women get hot flashes
Does anyone here know anything about scleroderma?
Or the story about his dad being driven to school in a limo during the Depression.
if i may suggest, line drying your clothes or using a rack (indoors) will extend the color and life of your clothes
youtube baby….
Actually, our manufacturing output continues to set records. It did in 2006, and though the data is not completely released yet, 2007 looks set to break the record again. American workers are far more productive than workers anywhere else, which is why we can make so much stuff while employing less in manufacturing. our manufacturing output is actually about 2 and a half times that of China.
And our economy began to shift to an information economy long ago. That is just a fact of life that people are going to have to accept. The old days where everybody you know worked in a mill or the coal mines or whatever are gone.
isnt it auto-imune?
Does stress have anything to do with the onset of an attack?
yup,hand wash ,or gentle cycle …cold water,mild ivory soap…and line dry…iron on inside out
No, but I’ve always found the Mayo Clinic website useful for research.
it could,that is why they put you on inderal…you want ,to try to control your heart rate…like the old bio feedback
Yes. My daughter is getting tested for it. Scary. Scary. Worst than Lupus.
At some point you have to wonder when will all of this illness stop?????
She is an athlete. Is one of the most motivated people I know (along with her brilliant sister). Her sister diagnosed her. It can be a mild to killer disease.
im a firm believer in Chinese medicine,and acupuncture…check it out….auto imune,means your own body is producing these effects…check it out,the oriental stuff
Oh, yes. This is the American part of Tijuana. I’m sure there are darker parts. This is unbelievable. They are totally aware of what America needs but does not provide. And the doctors and dentists are educated in America for the most part. Everyone is a winner. I’m not kidding when I say it is the best service I have ever gotten for dental care. I have insurance here, but I pay there. The appliance I got there was $450, negotiable, and here I was told it would be $2700.
I grew up medium-low middle class. After college, I started over in Alaska, as a commercial fisherman, then civil service public safety administrator, finally educator. Since we started a family, we’ve always been solid middle middle class. We’ve never really aspired beyond that. Eight years ago, was as close to upper middle class as we’ve come.
I don’t despise Bush for keeping us from getting to upper middle class, though his policies are mostly the root of it. So many others have so many more troubles in this economy than we’ve had in our family. We consiuder ourselves failry fortunate.
I do despise him and most GOP legislators at EVERY level for screwing working people over whenever the choice comes between working people and some big corporation.
My oldest daughter is getting her masters in Chinese Medicine in Berekley.
Auto-immune diseases are terrible. They are rampant in my family. What does one do when your body attacks itself?
you do NOT WANT to see his performance at the GRIDIRON club
try to eat well,destress,go to a good herbalist,eat organic,get good sleep…LOVE YOURSELF!! and get a pet,
I’ve had about six opportunities to click amd watch at various blogs. I’ve passed every one, so far…
Texas Betsey
I suddenly realized that my comment about “jesting” might have sounded somewhat flip. I didn’t mean it the way it came out. I was thinking about the granddaughter and how everything has to match and even the hair has to be perfect. Such a difficult age. At some point they won’t feel so “judged.”
My oldest has hasimotos disease. It is you immune system attacking the thyroid. Sometimes people with this get scleroderma.
Does cancer have an auto-immune component?
this is SO VERY WONDERFUL! ,no?
do you know what test she is getting? ANA or something else?
(disclaimer – i am NOT a doctor)
My 116 comment meant to be directed to your comment.
that would be hashimotos.
i have the opposite autoimmune disease – graves disease – i was told there was no increased cancer risk due to it.
Yeah, but it’s a whole different mindset. I think of Mexico as shopping, and there is still that, where people stand outside of their shops selling the best leather or whatever. They want your business and are not shy about soliciting it, but it’s just much more “Americanized.” Not much on the bartering front at all. Just prices that are half or less of what we pay. Clean, I’m telling you.
Eventually. She has an appointment with the doc that runs the research on it at UCSF.
My parents were lower middle class i think. Well enough to raise a family and pay on a small home, along with have enough to eat. We had our times to stretch in the late 80s as well. Dad’s having to again, now right along with me this time. But he never had enough to put me through college, nor my brother. That colored a lot of my adult decisions and still does, but i’m also entirely used to doing for myself thanks to that.
Dad’s a paper mill worker, and i’m now a pharmacy tech. He’s in one of the few specialty areas of manufacturing that have managed to stay viable in the information age. I’m of course, in the Information Age version of a healthcare job. Except i’m literally working poor because the retail corporation is one of the cheapest out there, when it comes to paying their pharmacy staff. I get vacation and medical benefits, including dental and vision but oh, hey! I still get paid barely enough to do use those benefits. And this $1,000 deductible thing kicks my skinny little ass every year on the turnover. I only have to by 500 of it but my medications aren’t exactly CHEAP as an asthmatic!
So far I have seen nothing that can be helped with either duct tape or WD-40.
Carry on without me.
try not to worry
Some thing that graves and hashimotos are the same disease swinging in different directions.
grrrrrrr
True. The only difference is that you can’t sue the Mexican doctor for malpractice. Which is why you need Dr. Gastelum!
i’ve been known to dance to the beat of a different drummer but not as a swinger in a different direction (laughing)
I was more worried a week or so ago. Now I am in strong mom mode.
G.W. Shitheel is on a projection jag again.
-G
Links to Al Ja*eera
Kind of puts things into perspective, doesn’t it? MoFo’s.
Whadda ya growlin at me for? The ice tricked helped ya didn’t it?
bad teeth can give you heart disease
{{{marymccurnin}}}
One never knows what might kick in.
Isn’t it sad that the middle class crisis throws us here into multiple medical stories? I’m really sad about that, when Julia put together such a informative thread. My apologies all. And thank you all for such helpful information for my own.
do you have any idea how hard it is to get duct tape gunk off of skin – wd40 does not remove it dood.
good…eating and sleeeping well,and de-stressing is a big step in the right direction,put cell phone on vibrate mode,and use it minimally
True. I put things out to dry naturally as much as possible. And, if you soak your black garments in vinegar water before you wash them, it sets the color.
Oh, that.
Brake clean or solvent works like a charm.
Sorry.
it is the lack of safety nets that causes middle class worries about being ‘next’.
GWB criticizing anyone for “wasting the country’s wealth” may be the single most ridiculous thing I have ever heard in my life.
This just breaks my heart. to think that in great britain everyone including tourists can go see a doctor without costs. (I dunno what to say about the dentristry there..brits aren’t known for the prettiest teeth- though mr wobbs are pretty good)
Kari Connolly? or perhaps someone who works with her?
don’t know of her, but cv looks very good. as does, at least after skimming, the work the group is doing.
looks like your daughter will be in good hands.
oh sure – like i keep that around the house
Medical issues and the middle class do rather complement one another these strange days. No health care. Bad health care. No relief from medical debt. No universal health care is killing the middle class. Really. Dead.
Even the damn co pays are enough to kill ya anymore, let alone the final bill even if ya do have insurance.
good to know, thanks
Yep. That is her.
What? Mary, what is this disease? Best wishes, sis.
Oh, what is the ratio of water to vinegar?
Scleroderma. Sort of like lupus or multiply sclerosis.
Today I am officially on Medicare and it is a real relief. No more dealing with insurance companies. It’s almost worth getting old.
vinegar is a miracle product!,a life saver i could list a dozen uses
here’s medline, but i’m sure mary can tell you more.
Congrats.
does this mean happy birthday wishes are in order?
Congratulations, Twain!
i use it for cleaning (windows, stove, etc.) safer too than commrcial products
I will be 75 in September but if you want to start the party now I’m game. :)
try to eat well,destress,go to a good herbalist,eat organic,get good sleep…LOVE YOURSELF!! and get a pet,
My focus and success so far is to eat and sleep well and I do have two very hilariously funny and loving felines! I need to work on the herbalist. I absolutely LOVE any solitude that I can find. Ooops, maybe not on the solitude part; I’m here after all! *g*
parabens (congrats) twain
My total billed from 9/11/07 to 1/1/2008 was $72,000…. with copays, deductible and co-insurance I owed nearly $5,000…. it all started again the first of the year…..
Thankfully I have received two very positive MD reports…. Nephrologist said that mets (tumor spread) would be rare after reading my pathology report and the Surgeon said that I won’t need a repeat CT until next fall.
Woohoo that means a lot less exposure to radiation…. One CT scan = 100 Chest Xrays….. so far in the last six months had enough radiation to equal 601 Chest xrays (one was a actual chest xray)
Oh! Do! I have a vinegar collection just for cooking. But I want to know more. I’ve heard that there are many mysteries to vinegar.
gonna have to see if we can find a not your birthday birthday cake (laughing)
Thanks, doctor. If I need your services, I assume they will pay. Let’s hope I don’t but would like to meet you anyway. *g*
sounds like all is well…relax and enjoy EVERYDAY before biggus dickus ahnilelates us all “G”
That is absurdity to the highest power.
Like Kumbatcha.
Or sour kraut with pro biotics. Ron just made homemade sour kraut.
Labor is devalued and only money-making acumen is respected. But now the world wide ponzi scheme is collapsing.
The debt ridden middle class has to insist that wages rise as quickly as inflation. It’s the only way it can get back to even.
Being middle class in America has meant having the ability to accumulate debt. When that ability is gone, it means having less than nothing. Today, millions can only aspire to the freedom of being penniless.
{{{{{{{{{{{{{KATY}}}}}}}}}}}}}} take good care
perhaps many of the issues facing us now would have been prevented if only biggus dickus actually had one.
In my Ayurvedic remedies book: a yummy tea made from 1 tsp (or 1 tbs, to your taste) apple cider vinegar and an equal amount of honey in very very hot but not boiling water first thing in the morning, before coffee or oatmeal or anything else, regulates blood pressure and assists weight loss.
*poof*
you reminded me that I haven’t had my chocolate for the day !
(((katymine!)))
Where are we all going to go when we cannot pay the mortgage/rent?
Millions on the streets while the houses remain empty?
I don’t think so.
yum…ive set the clock at 3 every afternoon to have green tea and honey too,i shall try your idea too..thanks
Sad to say, but if you took a poll of actual middle class voters, you’d see a different skew altogether.
This is another way of saying ‘We know what is good for you’
Fill up the sink so that it will well cover the garment. (Say four gallons of water) add 1 cup of vinegar and swish before you put the garment in. Let it set in the vinegar water for a couple of hours.
Wash any blacks in cold water even after the vinegar treatment, but it helps the color stay true.
my local news was saying yesterday that many suburbs in the bay area are having squatters taking up residence inside empty homes in empty subdivisions. there are many streets where there are only one or two residents out in antioch and the valley.
I am so glad at least you have a good prognosis!
The bills will be there, no matter as long as you can at least enjoy life without the constant worry!
Good for you Katy!
I used to be middle class – and I still vote.
Wanna see my purple finger from yesterday?
(have I been here long enough that no one needs to ask which finger?)
Mary, I truly admire you for your strength.
1001 uses for VINEGAR
enjoy
http://www.vinegartips.com/
Bush or Cheney finger, either way we know which digit it is, just which hand is the question.
An excellent report!!
Twain, I’d be delighted to meet up – I look forward to it.
I’m not expecing you’d have any need of my services: the people willing to even think of seeing a shrink are the ones least likely to need us….
OMG! Congratulations. Keep us posted on the tricks. I’m 10 years away from getting medicare, but we need to keep each other informed.
that is going to continue and grow
You and Pach would have a field day with my crazy ass.
This sounds rather gross, but I’ve taken up Neti potting after co-workers rec. I’m allergic to tons of stuff, just lately in my 50’s and doctors have had me on nasal meds. I recently took up this nasal cleaning, and I’m off meds now for weeks.
Elmore and I are planning another trip to Europe….. probably in May…. right now the plan is to fly to Paris….. train to southern France…. drive to Tuscany and then fly to Crete for a week poolside vegging… eating organic food…
Actually it quite simple – visit social security office – done :)
Does that put vinegar in the same class as duct tape and WD 40?
Not as far as I know. Concerning the various auto-immune diseases I have researched, none have a link to cancer. I do believe that certain people have a genetic predisposition to cancer regardless of their life styles and/or specific diseases. But, I am not a medical professional. Please consult the experts.
thanks
what a wild ride the bankers took us on(colectively speaking)
I don’t know which report you’re referring to, but that’s been a commonly reported phenomenon among social scientists in this country for at least 20 years, and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it was coextensive with the emergence of televised entertainment, and mass mediated culture in general. But it’s definitely getting worse. I can’t remember the last primetime show that dramatized a working-class family, with real problems. Maybe Roseanne?
Even people who live like they’re middle-class nowadays are so awash in consumer debt that I think we have a pretty difficult time imagining what it should look like – what a “well-educated” person, employed in a socially valuable capacity, ought to be able to afford. Our image of ourselves, all around, is badly skewed. And we’re also so conscientious about “maintaining appearances” and maintaining ourselves in what we believe is a middle-class lifestyle, that we’re actually hiding from ourselves how bad it’s become. The perception of income inequality and income disparity among people within a given immediate community has been studied pretty extensively in Britain, Italy, and the Scandinavian countries, by social scientists in concert with people who study stress-related epidemiology – their conclusions do not bode well for the USA. And it’s not that income disparities don’t exist in these places – it’s that the perception of disparity has a very negative impact on people’s well-being.
Fox News skeevster John Gibson has had his show cancelled.
Tucker Carlson is done.
Pat Buchanan snapped tonight and told Michelle Goff to shut up.
The rightwing meltdown is continuing.
-G
Sounds beyoootiful. Have a blast!
Here is the wiki on sauerkraut.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sauerkraut
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I thought those were used to make green tea?
*Kidding.
-G
you said it. greed is just destructive
Excellent!
great,my dad was a famous physician…he believed in as few meds as possible,nsaids for exaple,ibuprofren and such are very toxic,same for tylenol
yessssssssssssss another one down, many more to go
Did you see the e-mail I sent to MSNBC that I posted earlier tonight? I’m hoping tonight’s outburst will earn Pat a well-deserved retirement…
yup
Is it on youtube?
did anyone put him in his place??
This place amazes me. We are discussing sauerkraut!
It just makes me happy to be here – seriously.
If you’ll just lay off the WD-40, everything will be OK.
*g*
I was really surprised that Abrams treated that “shut up” as lightly as he did….. WHAT does he think his show is….. Bill’O’s?
Bad ratings or because he is a mean drunk. Any reason given?
I don’t know, but it should be. Rachel Maddow really came down hard on Buchanan after he told the other woman to shut up.
*gasp* was that a zig? Dang, I hadn’t seen one of those in eons…! 8-)
Yes–see my 222
Get your travel agent to buy SNCF tickets for the train at the Paris airport (Charles de Gaulle) in advance. Don’t go into Paris — the TGV leaves from the airport.
Chris,
It’s the place most of us feel impacted, I’m guessing.
Maybe this is wrong, but my fear is that property values will decline while mortgage rates rise. That means whoever is left with lots of cash will be buying a lot of real estate because it’s tangible. This would translate to a few landlords and lots of tenants, which means further upward distribution of wealth – the opposite of what is needed.
No…where is it?
Race is Pat’s downfall. He’s kept it in check for a long time, but Obama is flushing the racists out of the tall grass.
-G
The average grocery store item travels about 200 miles from source to shelf. Some travel 2000 miles. That healthy fish could have been deep-netted in the western Pacific, which means it traveled a lot farther. Distribution is no longer the minor cost it was before. Petroleum and its derivatives are also essential in many intermediate steps, from delivering seed or feed, to harvest, to cleaning, prepping, bagging and loading.
Oil per barrel has gone up almost four times since Shrub decided to let Dick Cheney be president. Past oil shocks didn’t have to contend with massive and growing demand from China or widespread war in the Middle East. Odds are high we’re contending with permanent increases in energy prices just when our jobs, benefits and retirement, our access to healthcare, education and housing, is also under permanent assault.
In many cases, that’s been a direct result of, or deeply aggravated by, the policies of George Bush. He and the Congresscritters who scored lowest on this survey, think “We’re doing just fine”. To paraphrase a late nite comedian, when Bush says “We”, he means “Me”.
Whoo hoo, Twain! Can anyone best Twain in years on this earth?
Bush or Cheney finger, either way we know which digit it is, just which hand is the question.
With regard to Buch/Cheny issues, I’ve found that I’ve suddenly become ambidextrous… *g*
Good one Doc.
wonder if it’s been youtubed yet?
harry(cat sitting onmy hands ,must go nite all
No, Colbert was joking about it tonight.
So long to another asshat.
Probably had to get sacked because Turdblossom is sucking up the pay.
-G
Aloha, Sadly!
I don’t realize I’m that old until I get out of bed. Then, all hell breaks loose.
he hasn’t been keeping it in check too much lately and surely msnbc noticed that
Hi! I’m trying to stay current here…isn’t it the truth!
Whao, katymine. You sure have had far more than your share. Hugs.
Bush considers serfdom a triumph of his much talked about ownership society.
-G
Gnite sadlyyes.
This is true. But I think that the medical scandal in this country was the silent tipping point. After Katrina and now the mortgage bullshit people will not take it anymore. You see this in the numbers of people voting in the dem primaries. And when you fuck with people’s homes they get really angry. Especially since American culture promises a home, chicken in pot, etc.
I will. Same to you!
mary trying to bust the margins?
From previous thread…
OT my e-mail to MSNBC
“Watching the Dan Abrams program on the evening of March 12, 2008, I was shocked and offended to witness MSNBC “political analyst” Pat Buchanan tell a guest on the show, a black woman, on the air, to “shut up.”
Buchanan’s remark was unspeakably rude and disrespectful.
I understand that MSNBC feels a need to provide some partisan “balance” on its political news programs, and I have no problem with that approach. I can appreciate the (usually) good-natured give and take. There have even been times when I found myself agreeing with Pat. I bear him no animosity. But this incident is not the kind of conduct I can find acceptable on MSNBC, the network I choose most often to watch.
It is clear that Pat Buchanan has outlived his usefulness as a “political analyst” on MSNBC. He should be replaced with someone who can comport himself or herself with the dignity and courtesy that your viewers deserve.”
the address is letters@MSNBC.com
RIP former Ohio Sen. Howard Metzenbaum.
-G
I busted through margin manners.
Bravo.
-G
Tough one!
Rest in peace, Metz.
g’nite sadly
Oh, don’t poof, it’s so nice to see you!
found youtube of the shut up comment…he.is.an.ass.
don’t know, but it should be. Rachel Maddow really came down hard on Buchanan after he told the other woman to shut up.
And right here is where I stir up trouble. Buchanan is on the air very day, fro 6:00 A.M. to 11:00 P.M. I don’t know how he does it. I agree with him about once a month, but he’s allowed his say.
If *I* was on the air that much, I’d be gone in less than a week. I don’t agree with him, but one mistake, given the amount of air-time he shoulders – shit – give the guy a break.
Going to watch KO again….. it was just TOO good the first time..
Really cool site!
*waving g’nite to the leavy sleepy (or tv watching) pups*
what an embarassment to all mammals that walk upright
and snakes.
give him a break? Hell no, i won’t give this racist jackass a break
That fear seems well-grounded. The financial system no longer knows who’s holding “good” assets. The spread of purportedly AAA-rated, “asset-backed” securities is wide; escalating defaults are mocking that AAA rating. With higher risks, rates to consumers are likely to remain high or go up, along with tighter access to credit at any price.
Systemic changes in jobs and job security, and compression in total compensation (below the VP level) will have many effects, including putting downward pressure on house prices. Property prices may decline for 1-3 years, even in places outside the coasts, SW and Florida that have not seen such massive escalation.
Communities will have to redefine themselves. There is no neutral spot for government – it is, after all, only another expression of “community”. We can demand that our government respond to our needs, or allow the Bushes and Cheneys to keep helping themselves at our expense.
Hiya Dear,
Are you worn to pieces yet, or what?
ding ding ding!
OT…More on Adm. Fallon..Better news? that last question just shows how fucked things are.
TPM
oh crap – that should have been leaving sleepy….
fork
hell, he is a poster child for thinning the herd
i really wanna hear what he has to say once he is officially gone. bet it is gonna make our hair stand on end and give us a real bad case of heartburn
anybody got a quarter? Insomnia may or may not have a cure, but music helps….
jukebox
I agree, that’s about as often as Pat’s libertarian views coincide with my progressive liberalism…! *g*
No,no, that would be me leaving… I worked until 9:00 with a great group at the museum. I’m so happy to be here.
OT…
link
got back out of bed to post this, i forgot to do it earlier…..i hope teddy sees it……….nite pups.
these are two things about the ’wound too tight’ woman rep from oklahoma who compared gays to terrorists.
this one is about her gay son. yeyp, her GAY son.
http://www.queerty.com/sally-k…..-20080312/
this one is interesting, too……..she’s screamin’ ’they’re threatening my life because i’m speaking to you all’…….and the fbi said, well, maam, not quite…….yet.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news…..hThey04584
It’s way beyond KPMG or Arthur-Anderson level credibility issues…! 8-(
h/t to GregB-
Fallon on war with Iran:
“‘Get serious,’ the admiral says. ‘These guys are ants. When the time comes, you crush them.’”
G’nite all. Fun evening.
nite twain
Aloha, Twain!
‘night, Twain.
g’nite twain
I didn’t see your email.
g’nite Twain: good dreams.
ok – I found one in the couch cushions – a re-broadcsat of one from a few days ago – my all-time favorite bar-band, Sonia Dada:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0tGNOWvC1k
This is really sad….
U.S. Millionaire Growth Stalls
jayt, it’s not like on one immediately told him how inappropriate his remark was. Both female guests spoke up. After their respective objections were made was the time for him to express his apology. I’m not saying that people can’t say stupid things, but once it’s immediately pointed out to you; if you didn’t mean it, just apologize. JMHO, but it pissed me off.
That is a problem. She is a right wing wacko married to a Southern Baptist minister. If “Gay” in an acquired “condition” and two jeebus crackers have a gay son, it must be due to the “homosexual” conspiracy.
My dad’s five years older than you, it’s just that I can’t get him to visit the tubes.!
Sen. Metzenbaum followed the FDR model: he was one of the Senate’s wealthiest members, but he worked tirelessly for progressive causes that benefited working men and women. He was far from perfect; some of his early businesses ran on non-union labor when that was a rarity. But he would have despised the Bush notion that government should serve only the haves and the have mores.
but you know, as I’m reading the rest of our comments here, I’m encouraged. Sure, the hyper-consumptive tendencies of our culture are going to claim
somea lot of victims – especially amongst the younger generation. But we’re a hella-resourceful people, and the fact that so many people from so many different walks of life, at so many different stages of life, can meet in a community like this, mediated by the internet’s capacity for instant two-way communication, means that when the trainwrecks of debt and resource-scarcity hit (ie, when the reality-based contingencies set in), maybe we’ll have a fighting chance. At least we won’t have to give up saurkraut.dmac – plaese help! my proofreading sucks….now I can’t seem to read. can you help me find the bit of the article about her gay son?
Steeped in the ideology of the supremacy of the military. Sounds like an admiral to me.
-G
Count on Howie Klein for the link.
Here
falasafa, i take hope in how much ad money has to spent just to maintain the useless consumption treadmill. as purchasing power collpases, i’m hopeful th enew “keeping up” will be excellence in making do with less – adn making the time to do it.
just in time for the planet, too.
thanks, steve-AR!
I’ll certainly agree that an apology was called for – I have no argument with that – I’m just saying that with that much air-time, each and every one of us would have fucked up a long time ago.
Agreed. It’s not a “sub-prime” lending problem. I’d say it’s pretty much the entire financial system, from those predatory consumer mortgage brokers to those predatory board members at the likes of CitiGroup.
If taxpayer dollars are going to bail out anybody, lenders would not be high on my list. Those whose toil runs each office and business, whose toil is supposed to repay those debts, would be much higher on my list.
earl, i don’t know if this is answerable, but is the a handle on what % of US GDP is the financial/fluff sector?
i’m curious as to the proportion of the economy supported by tangible activities vs that which is simply a speculative bubble – and i’ve no idea of how to figure in the real estate bubble (ultimate deflation by 20% of today’s prices? 40%?)
Maybe this is the kind of crisis that has to occur before people will recognize and acknowledge the fact that the current economic “system” makes no sense. I hope you’re right that communities will unite – and learn to sustain themselves in a manner that rewards and values, labor, cooperation, creativity, compassion and all the just “being” that makes life worth living. I imagine that there could be a return to craftsmanship, local farms, professionals who care more about the work they perform than the amount of “money” they accumulate, etc. It’s all possible if only people recognize what they really want and need.
yeah kirk, steve-ar gave you the same link, it’s the right one…….
sorry, i had gone back to bed, then realized i should have checked to make sure it posted ok……..
ok, nite again.
well put. and a very good question @297. funny they don’t profer that formula in macro 101.
Thank you for a refreshing comment….If MSM ever goes liberal as it is accused of being….I may hook up again…I love life without TV telling what to think…you bloggers watch for me.
Sad that the war chief in the ME stepped down for being diplomatic to foriegn powers. More war samller middle class.
Impeach, start the investigations. They got NY and AL dem governors with their spy info. It is time for congress to let go of their ankles when a Bushco is around.
I agree. My problem is that he didn’t apologize after being confronted by both women with what he said. When I wrote to MSNBC, I did not ask that he be fired. I asked that he apologize on air directly to the young lady he told to ’shut up’ before the show went off the air. Perhaps they best keep a PR person after hours and rid themselves of any racist/sexist commentators.
kirk at 293 says–”falasafa, i take hope in how much ad money has to spent just to maintain the useless consumption treadmill. as purchasing power collpases, i’m hopeful th enew “keeping up” will be excellence in making do with less – adn making the time to do it.
just in time for the planet, too.”
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i learned how to do just that. my life was changed for me, and i had to learn. so i did……
my life is totally different. my view is different. my attitude is different. how i treat people is different.
but most important; what i want is different.
VINEGAR is an available carbon source for many biochemical bodily cellular
processes.
Use organic vinegar for consumption. A capful or two in 4oz of water, diluted to taste. It is great to sip on throughout the day…like lemonade. You will notice a subtle change in how you feel. Like having a vinegrette salad dressing. Use cheaper organic for cleaning and washing.
Also nibble on fresh fruit like citrus and apple or whatever you can afford. Nutrition is way cheaper than getting sick…get Prevention magazine at the library or on line from Rodale press they are full of health tips (no prescription necessary for a healthful diet).
Be well. Be happy. Enjoy your life progressive friends.
Here’s an excellent blog post which tells the story and gives great details about our ‘credit crisis’ situation.
http://www.swans.com/library/art14/mdolin31.html