The Senate Republican caucus — men and women routinely portrayed by the corporate media as being "solid" and "wise" and who "have our best interests at heart," you know, like James Inhofe, John Cornyn, John McCain, Elizabeth Dole, Mitch McConnell, Ted Stevens… — gave David "Diapers" Vitter a standing ovation when he returned to the Senate after laying low for a week after it was revealed that he had been spending a lot of time over the past decade with a series of hookers and call girls. They applauded the Family Values supporter heartily. Yesterday the Oklahoma legislature’s GOP caucus took a cue from the U.S. Senate and applauded Sally Kern (R-OK City) when she returned after her anti-gay tirade a few days ago.
First, why don’t you listen to her own words:
Yes, that was a state Representative in Oklahoma telling her constituents that she "honestly thinks it’s the biggest threat our nation has, even more so than terrorism or Islam." I can only imagine what Muslim Oklahomans must feel– not to mention what the families of friends of the victims of the right wing terrorists who blew up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City on April 19, 1995 (which killed 168 people and injured over 800) must feel. This is a seriously deranged person and in a normal society she would be left to mutter and curse under her breathe. In Oklahoma, the Republican caucus gives her a standing ovation.
Obviously most Oklahomans are not hate mongers like Sally Kerns. I asked Andrew Rice, an Oklahoma state Senator running for the U.S. Senate what he makes of this kind of outburst:
By resorting to inflamatory speech to make her point, Rep. Kern not only hurts the targets of her remarks, homosexuals and non-violent Islamic religious followers, but she also offends most Oklahomans who believe in fairness and decency. Having lost a brother in the World Trade Center on 9/11, it is offensive to me that she equates homosexuality with terrorism. As elected representatives in the Oklahoma state legislature, we are each held to a higher standard in our public remarks. I wish Rep. Kern would have avoided attacking millions of people for their religion or for who they love. I expect the Republican leadership of the House of Representatives to condemn her remarks.
Andrew was right on the money– except about the Republican leadership of the House of Representatives condemning her remarks.
Now perhaps poor Ms. Kern is distraught because he primitive believe system taught her to hate herself because of her own gay son and the only way she can justify disowning him is by lashing out. This seems to me to conflict with her job of serving the people of Oklahoma City. In fact, the very first act of this sad, delusional and obsessed woman when she managed to get into the legislature in 2005 was to introduce a bill, H.R. 1039 which urged library officials to restrict children’s access to books with homosexual themes. The following year she introduced H.R. 2158 which would have mandated the state to withhold funding to any library that refused to "segregate" books with homosexual or sexually explicit material from children’s sections. In 2006 she introduced H.B. 2107 that would have allowed science teachers to teach religious superstitions in public schools regarding creationism.
This morning the Oklahoman asks an important question– Do comments create environment of hate? It’s a question many Oklahomans are asking after Kerns’ outburst.
"Sally Kern’s comments were not only ignorant but very hurtful,” said Jerre Fine, a gay airman who served in the U.S. Air Force in Afghanistan. "We need protection from our enemies abroad. We also need protection from within, from people like Sally Kern.”
In the roughly three-minute recording of Kern at a meeting among fellow Republicans, she claimed that gays were trying to indoctrinate 2-year-olds through the school system; that they had infiltrated city councils; that no society tolerating homosexuality has ever lasted more than a few decades and that gays, even more so than terrorists, were the biggest threat facing America. The recording has been heard by more than half a million people on the Internet, according to the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund, which posted it on its Web site.
At Tuesday’s news conference, held at the Church of the Open Arms in Oklahoma City, many commented that it was just three months ago that they had another occasion to gather there.
In the days following the killing of Stephen Domer, a 62-year-old gay man, many of the same faces had come together to urge passage of hate-crime legislation that would include sexual orientation protections.
Domer allegedly was killed by the member of a white supremacist group. Kern’s critics say her actions have helped create an environment of hate, where crimes such as Domer’s killing are perpetuated.
"These words are hateful words and can result in hateful actions. This is about responsibility and accountability for words, not freedom of expression,” said Richard Ogden, chairman of Oklahoma City-based Cimarron Alliance. Ogden went on to admonish House Speaker Chris Benge, R-Tulsa, for not censuring Kern for her comments. He also lashed out at the Oklahoma Legislature in general for burying four hate crime proposals in subcommittees, and not allowing them to be debated and voted upon.
Kern absolutely refuses to apologize or back down from her bizarre statements. "I said nothing that was not true, I said nothing out of hate and I don’t believe my colleagues will censure me," Kern said Monday. And she was correct. They gave her a standing ovation instead.
A standing ovation isn’t what she’s getting over at Pam’s House, who reprinted a powerful letter to Kern from Rev. Russell Mark of the Association of Welcoming and Affirming Baptists, reminding her of what it is to be a Christian and how registering to be a Republican is not the same thing as following Jesus Christ’s teachings of love and acceptance.
As a Christian I have to ask what kind of god do you worship that you would seek the murder of children? Does your Jesus call you to spread lies, repeat gossip and innuendo about people you don’t even know? Does your Jesus teach you to spread hate and to live in fear and teach others to live in fear? So very odd isn’t it that your Jesus and my Jesus are so very different. You see, my Jesus teaches the power of love; to confront my enemies face to face; to embrace them and seek to understand them; to find commonality. Out of humility, seek understanding and out of love, to not be afraid. Even in my anger at what you have said, I would seek to understand how you, my sister-in-Christ would say such ignorant, offensive and incitful things. How do you take a few obscure passages and totally ignore all that Christ teaches and seek to bludgeon an entire people? How do you do this and then go to church and worship the Christ who gave everything to reconcile the world? What about bigotry and fear-mongering is Christ-like? How dare you treat the cross with such disdain! And how dare you misuse the authority of your office. Be ashamed Representative Kern. Be very ashamed. More than your constituents are watching; God is watching.
Sitting and talking with Andrew Rice and his wife a few days ago left no doubt in my mind that Sally Kerns is not all there is to Oklahoma. The state has gotten a bad name in recent years by electing and re-electing a series of crackpot politicians like Tom Colburn and James Inhofe. I’m optimistic that this year Oklahoma will go a long way towards making up for those misjudgments by replacing Inhofe with Andrew Rice. Blue America has endorsed him and we urge anyone who disagrees with Sally Kern’s vicious remarks to donate– even if just one dollar– to Andrew’s campaign.
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hi Howie
Sometimes you can’t even shame them by playing their rants back to them. They do not see their speech as hateful bigotry.
They’re almost proud of it.
Eureka Springs gets a shoutout!
Hey Howie, great work on Blue America. 42k is grand!
Going up to read your post.
great post, howie
Clearly, people need to stop having gay children. It appears to drive them around the bend. (Schafly, Keyes, Briggs, Kern, etc.)
I am proud to be a Native Oklahoman. We will be blue again one day. Very blue.
Aloha, Howie! I seem to recall that Timothy McViegh was an ardent Aryan Nation fundie…?
It is for the kind of statement made by this woman that hate crimes legislation was invented.
I had a very dear Oklahoman Native cousin who died a year ago from cancer, as a result of aids. We in the family miss Steve… terribly.
Sho’nuff, what’s wrong with those parents…? Heh, I personally think that my eldest is pursuing a Phd in Psych to solve her own ‘confused’ lifestyle…! ;-)
“She’s a maniac, maniac on the floor,
and she’s dancin like she never danced before!
She’s a maniac, maniac……”
you get the idea.
great post
You have no idea how often our wonderful town attracts outside haters.
As a group none of them even suspects they are insane?
Not even one?!
Substitute Republican for gay in that rant and we just might agree.
Understand this: Some of my best friends are Oklahomans. ;0)
I think there should be a special island way far away for Sally Kern, Mean Jean, and G. Ferraro. Let’s see. We need a fourth for bridge. mmmmmmmmm. Mrs. Cheney!
Isn’t this 2008? Hard to believe, huh?
You all are the new us!
Howie!
Thank you so much for this!
What a powerful post, and what a moving and righteously thundering letter Rev. Russell Mark wrote!
This was the perfect follow-up to read after having seen Keith’s scorcher of a comment on Clinton and Ferraro (which also had me shouting Amen!)
I’ve been more hopeful, lately, odd though it may sound to some…these hate-mongers and race baiters and bigots are gradually going the way of the dinosaur. I see more evidence every day that more and more people are rejecting hatred — they are becoming more and more repulsed by it.
And this is one reason why Obama’s campaign has caught fire across the country, in unexpected places, with supporters pouring in from unsuspected quarters –
because people are longing to put hatred and fear-mongering behind, and to bury it in the past.
Those who pander to it, they’re on the side of the dinosaurs.
Remenber: as goes Oklahoma; so goes California and New York. ;0)
i think stupidity and bigotry are bigger threats actually
You’re right, K8. People are sick to death of turning on their radios and televisions and having people yell and scream hateful words. Enough, already.
i am missing the shout-out.
Loo Hoo -
Are you still looking for a recipe for blue cheese dressing?
Almost twenty five years ago I first moved to ES. At that time at least half the elected officials were openly Gay.
I am hoping this is not a subtle way to degrade Oklahomans.
I wonder whether Pat Buchanan will be punished for telling that black woman to “shut up.”
Oh, and one other thing.
While we drove across the country, schlepping all our earthly belongs in a camper attached to a rickety truck, pulling our ancient Ford car (stuffed with more belongings) to move to Arizona, we found ourselves enchanted by the beauty of Oklahoma.
And Oklahomans were warm, friendly, and very hospitable to us Northeastern city folk when our truck broke down and we had to stay longer in campgrounds than anticipated. And prior to that trip, I had had no idea of the beauty of the rolling hills and lakes of Oklahoma.
Makes me wanna burst out in song from that musical, lemme see, what’s it called? ;-)
Where in the main post do you see such a possibility?
No Kiddo, just one that is especially odius.
Wasn’t that long before Erik Estrada started hawking lots nearby…? ;-)
Did I indicate I did?
OKK, the Oklahomans I know best are you and Lahoma. And a finer pair couldn’t be found anywhere at all outside of Texas.
How else can you justify Inhofe and Coburn…? *g*
We’re only sayin’
You’re doin’ fine, Oklahoma!
Oklahoma O.K.
L – A – H – O – M – A
OKLAHOMA!
Yeeow!
Expressing your “hopes” certainly suggested you did, imo.
I am really pissed today. Fucking Pelosi is the most worthless politician we’ve ever had to suffer through. We might be rid of cheney/bush right now if not for her. The repukes were going to impeach Spitzer, while bushco walks free everyday WTF!!!
If I could drink I’d be drunk off my ass right now.
/End of rant.
As a former Oklahoman, I appreciate this disclaimer by Howie:
“Obviously most Oklahomans are not hate mongers like Sally Kerns.”
Ah, yes, that’s how it goes!
;-)
I loved singing that song in our choral class in school; it pumps up the good energy flowing through your veins, mightily.
It was Inhofe who bragged that his family had never had a gay in it.
Sally Kerns meet David Duke.
Just got back. Yes, have you got a recipe? Thanks!
I drove through Oklahoma once, does that count?
*g*
She did get a standing ovation from her caucus, though, so she’s not being shunned as she should be.
In the rant when she talks about city councils being taken over by Teh Gay, she mentions Eureka Springs as an example of such.
In a motel?!?
;-)
under the sheets.
:O
aha! thanks
I hardly think so. Is this a debate?
This just in from Oklahoma City (AP via The Oklahoman):
Sanity continues to break out in Oklahoma.
Great post, Howie — and good luck, Andrew! It sure would be nice to see someone like him in DC.
LOL!!!
What a convenient, multi-purpose fashion! Just what the hip dinosaur is wearing these days…
I agree with you. Those legislators are not fit to represent their state.
Sure they are, that’s why they listen.
BTW, I just noticed that Keith posted a thread at Kos about tonight’s Special Comment, and it’s got almost a thousand comments already. (Of course, maybe y’all discussed this already in a prior thread?)
Better lay off on this thread for a while.
I don’t like these kinds of quotes or statements. It almost seems to reflect regionalism. They have these same kinds of idiots in Cali, or NY or anywhere else.
“They applauded the Family Values supporter heartily. Yesterday the Oklahoma legislature’s GOP caucus took a cue from the U.S. Senate and applauded Sally Kern (R-OK City) when she returned after her anti-gay tirade a few days ago.”
More from the OK legislature (this from last week), featuring Andrew Rice:
Someone who looks for “win-win for everybody” could be quite a change from Inhofe.
Buchanan needs to apologize for telling her to shut up tonight before the show is over. She stood up for herself and Rachel stood up with her. Good for them, bad for Pat. I was appalled.
Mary, dmac asked me to relay this linky to you… It’s the eighth pix when ya scroll down…
http://icanhascheezburger.com/
Yep.
See my 51 and 58, for instances of OK sanity, Ms. Kern notwithstanding.
For anyone who’s wondering, I can assure you that Andrew is running a professional campaign. His communications team does a great job keeping even wee Blue America donors like me informed of goings-on. This is the kind of seat we were very dubious about two years ago — Virginia, Montana, Rhode Island. Luckily, we have even more of these Senate possibilities this round.
I’m very happy to be an Andrew Rice supporter, and pleased that he’s taken a firm stand on Sally Kern’s hate speech. Has anyone gotten a statement from Senator Inhofe yet?
Wonder if an email barrage would matter?
Indeed I do. Don’t know a good time to pass it to you since I’m often asleep when you’re on-line and doubt the Lake would appreciate my throwing it in right now. Do you ever check in on Pull Up A Chair Saturday morning?
Don’t worry kiddo, every state has the Kern types in elected position. Sometime they do get voted out. Arizona has had some really crazy folks in the time I have been here. Usually they put their foot in their mouth and it is obvious to most people that they need to voted out.
But fewer people are listening these days, I do believe.
The ratings for hate radio (while still way too high) are slipping (Melanie What’s-er-Face got the boot in California, for example). “Fixed News”, as Keith calls it, has had noticeable declines, too.
In my world where I see it is in the comments from folks who didn’t used to sound so open before, but now seem genuinely disgusted by the place fear-mongering and bigotry has been taking us.
Don’t get me wrong, the David Dukes of this world are still very, very dangerous (which is why I admire Orcinus so much), but they aren’t getting the kind of traction they’d love to get (and which they feel they’re entitled to by virtue of their {gag!} “purity”).
I hope you are right.
Oops.
Sorry about that…I guess I’d better go back and read earlier threads to see what I inadvertantly stumbled into.
No harm meant to anyone’s feelings at the Lake.
I guess I’m projecting. I listen to Sean Hannity whenever I go pick up lunch. (About twice a week for 10 minutes.) It’s all so ugly and mean-spirited. The only time I heard anything worth repeating was this week when a caller referred to Spitzer as “love potion number 9.”
letters@msnbc.com
It seems someone at Blue Oklahoma noticed what happened in Denny Hastert’s old district, and they liked what they saw.
Haaa! I love it.
No biggie, someone went all crazy about being off topic on the last thread.
What’s next, cameltoes…? ;-)
“Buchanan needs to apologize for telling her to shut up tonight before the show is over. She stood up for herself and Rachel stood up with her. Good for them, bad for Pat. I was appalled.”
As was I. I brought this up at the end of the last thread, but most folks had gone upstairs.
We do not find this post pleasing. Do you understand that Mr. Klein?
Lahoma and okk.
Absolutely! I immediately sent e-mails after I looked for a phone number on MSNBC.com, but could not find one. He needs to apologize on the air to her before the show is over.
Yes! I’ll be here for most, if not all, of Christy’s thread. If I miss it, I’ll read later. Hope to see you there. Now you’re making me want a cobb salad!
I would think a community where Ms Kern lives and speaks like she does, would first and foremost take her words as a warning.. Do not allow your two year olds to be around that woman!
I’ve got to tell you all a little story.
On September 11th, 2001, I was working on a project in Los Angeles. My Bride was back in NY and had planned to fly west on 9/12 to join me for my birthday party on 9/15. Needless to say, she didn’t fly, and missed my birthday party. No one flew, for several days. Then airplanes began flying again and I finished my project and was ready to come home. But my Bride was nervous and didn’t want me to fly, not yet, it was too soon. She suggested that i drive home in my rented car. I thought that was a fantastic idea and left several days later.
I drove east on I40 and on the way I saw my daughter who was in school in Santa Fe, visited the Grand Canyon, Nashville, Memphis, Graceland, and Gettysburg on the way home. That trip was one of the most gratifying experiences I have ever had. Seeing my country, the nation of my birth, coast to coast, by myself, in a leisurely manner. But one of the most emotional days I have ever had in my life occurred when I visited the Oklahoma City Memorial in OKC. It destroyed me. It was so beautiful and devastating that it had me in tears for hours. I will never forget it. If you ever get by that way, do not miss it.
My Oklahoma story, hope you liked it.
Do you think Rachel will bring it up on her show?
Gimme a nudge if I forget; hopefully Christy won’t mind.
I missed it. What happened?
Also, I’m working on Bob Hamilton’s campaign, and would appreciate if any pups know of CSPAN clips of Issa that are particularly egregious. If you see any hearings in the future where Issa needs to be documented, please note the name of the hearing and the time. Another firepup is working with me to put together a worst of the worst Issa YouTube.
Surely you are not defending the hatespeech of Sally Kern? What about the post is displeasing to you? Would you have the locale of Sally Kern left out of the post so as not to offend? Surely that would lead to less support for Andrew Rice.
I cannot see what you could find displeasing about this post.
waccamaw i have loo hoo’s email addy and i want the recipe too if you don’t mind. i am at tex betsy at g mail.
I hope she brings it up with MSNBC management.
Betsy, would you send it to me too, please?
Buchanan should be fired forthwith.
That was despicable.
Raven – left you one downstairs..
Many of us here in Oklahoma who are working so hard to return our state to blueness do not take kindly to having our shortcomings bandied about. We know what our deficiencies are. We don’t need someone to point them out to us. Lahoma is livid. And so am I.
I just wanted to say every state has one bad nut in it, here in Florida we proudly hold Katherine Harris up to this standard, I believe she was running for the US Senate and she said something borderline hate speech about Jewish people.
I just wrote Rachel.
I don’t know what it’s a recipe for, but I want it too, Betsy.
Everyone wants this recipe waccamaw, just post it. If it pisses anyone off, they’ll have to try it before they complain!
sangemon –
Yes, I loved your story. We too saw much beauty on our way across the country, and although we were stressed out by the move, and by our scarily rickety vehicle and our scarier financial state, we couldn’t help but be touched by the beauty — both of the landscapes and the diverse folks across the way.
We didn’t have time to see the memorial, but I would definitely want to if we get the chance to pass that way again.
We spend a great deal of time on FDL pointing out the problems with America. Most of us are Americans. I ask you to think for a minute what you are saying. You are much too important to this blog.
i need to start a recipe blog!
nighty night
I hope this proves to be Buchanan’s “Robert Novak moment” (that ended his tenure at Crossfire)
I realize MSNBC feels a need to provide some partisan “balance,” but I think Buchanan has outlived his usefulness for that purpose.
It was unspeakably rude and disrespectful. The network can do better than that.
I am quite sure they both will complain to MSNBC management. They both verbalized on the show how inappropriate it was. If Buchanan doesn’t apologize tonight on the air, it will just be another blow-up for MSNBC.
sleep well raven
I am not doing that at all. Defending the Sally Kern speech, I mean. And I think you know it. What I object to is the constant reference to Oklahoma in connection to negatitive and bigoted political spokespeople. Can’t Klein fight his own battles? However make no mistake. I will go toe to toe with whoever.
I have said “shut up” in anger or frustration. Almost immediately I breathe deeply, apologize, and continue with, “What I meant to say is ….”
Just so you know, it was on the Ellen Degeneres show, so about a million people knew before this post.
Aloha, Raven!
Kiddo, dear friend, this thread has been pointing out that Oklahoma is NOT made up of Sally Kern clones.
And many, like myself, have been inspired by the post itself to write about our very good experiences of the people there.
It sounds like your heart hurts about these matters — a big warm hug to you, and to Lahoma.
kiddo, we make fun of Texans here too. And New Yorkers. And Californians. And the entire state of Florida. I don’t think it’s meant to be offensive.
In connection with this epidode, what in your view do you think I am saying?
I wonder how much the release of the report that showed 25% of teenage girls (and likely that many, or more teenage boys) are ALREADY infected by a Sexually Transmitted Disease influenced this? Face it folks, that’s an epidemic! These kids need a) medical examination, b)treatment, and c) comprehensive education about the risks of specific sexual acts and how to reduce those risks.
Far more girls than boys cinn. But yes they do all need a, b and c.
Seems like that standing ovation for Vitters and their silence regarding Craig’s sexual harrassment of his fellow shitters would make great fodder for campaign ads against Republicans in OK and everywhere else. Too bad the Dems are such pussies they would never stoop so low — at least not against a Republican.
Sorry I’m late. Jane didn’t tell me when she was gonna post this. Andrew Rice just called me from somewhere in Oklahoma to tell me it was up.
tonight’s special comment is up.
This Oklahom
oa (oops, she wouldn’t like all my typos would she?) lady is a fucking look.Didja see Spitzer’s
chickdate? Very nice.I’ve never watched Degeneres. But I don’t see the point. At this point.
Another thing Andrew told me, a lot of conservative Republicans in the state legislature abhor what she did and are keeping away from her.
In fact, the entire point of Howie’s post is to raise money for Andrew Rice, who hopes to replace James Inhofe as Oklahoma’s Senator. I cannot imagine how any Oklahoman would take offense at that.
We’re on your side, OKK and L. Hope you realize we are.
loon. Not “look”. Damn those typos.
evening, pups
had to care for my furry kid, she cut her paw on something outside so mommy had to clean, bandage and offer lots of love.
OKK and Lahoma, it’s not directed at you… I apologize for my remarks, and, I’m absolutely positive no ill will was meant by Howie or any pups…! *g*
Florida sucks. I wanna go home.
Breaking News: After a series of questions on the topic Senator Clinton has made a public apology to the whole Ferraro situation, as well as discussing, somewhat more opaquely her husbands statements in South Carolina.
Clinton On Ferraro
She also stated that she would expect her supporters to wholeheartedly support Senator Obama if he is the ultimate nominee.
At the same time there seems little to suggest that she will retract her claws on attacking on other issues, suggesting that there will need to be efforts to rebuild the party after a hard fought Primary camapign.
hiya Howie! Great post.
Hope you told Andrew Rice how proud we are of him for tackling this issue head-on.
Well… it isn’t the entire point, but if anyone would like to throw some dough into Andrew’s campaign, you can do it at Blue America and even a dollar or $5 helps. Imagine replacing a psycho like Inhofe with a brave progressive like Andrew.
Kiddo is really not pleased. He’ll calm down.
Goodnight good folks.
L.
I heard the story of that woman’s remarks in DemocracyNow! Amazing that such people still exist and get elected to public office.
If jesus has any sway he needs to show his face and straighten a lot of the “christians” out. They’re giving his name a very bad rep.
Oh please, don’t do that.
Like most people here, i wasn’t paying one godamned bit of attention to harris during that campaign. did she say jews couldn’t be saved or that we were a Chrisrtian country? i just chalked it up to more idiocy from her.
I agree we all make mistakes. Both women immediately told him how inappropriate it was. That was the right time for him to apologize, IMHO.
Aloha, Lahoma and OKK!
Howie when I get a job I will toss you some cash. Things are tight here. But you are doing such amazing work.
I don’t have to; he’ll be reading this when he gets home tonight. He was writing to Jane and I all morning about this to tell us how important it is. The gay community needs more straight allies in Congress like Andrew!
feeling a bit like one of us damn backward southerner’s who are always/often getting thrown out with the bathwater?
sometimes i think its difficult for some folks to remember this happens on their own city council(s) too … or school boards … or PTAs …
About damn time, better late than never but it actually may be too late..damage is done
Hugs Lahoma.
Rachel put fat pat in his place. He acted like a bully. Maddow is a classy gal… and smart as nails.
Feraro’s a loon, too. I guess when she ran for VP she heard enough “the only reason Mondale picked her is that she’s a woman.” It’s been a long time, Gerry. Drop it.
Ahhh… Pachelbel…thanks for that too, Howie!
I wonder. I don’t know if they actually were comprehensively testing the boys. If there is a sexual difference in proportion it must be because of a) teenage girls are having sex with quite active males, and males on average are having less sex than teenage girls, b) teenage girls are having sex with older, infectious males (thus there are males out there passing the diseases, but they fall outside the teen “window”), or c) the males are able to fight off or resist infection better than the females.
For chlamydia, males tend to be more symptomatic…and go in for treatment…and thus are more likely to be diagnosed. Not sure about the other STD’s, other than HIV…in which females are more susceptible than males to infection.
That was fun. I love making those clips. I try to put Jane in as many as I can. Last night I did one for the Boston band, Human Sexual Response and called her to tell her I was putting her in it and it turned out she had been friends with them when she was around 20-something!
OT my e-mail to MSNBC
“Watching the Dan Abrams program on the evening of March 12, 2008, I was shocked and offended to witness MSNBC “political analyst” Pat Buchanan tell a guest on the show, a black woman, on the air, to “shut up.”
Buchanan’s remark was unspeakably rude and disrespectful.
I understand that MSNBC feels a need to provide some partisan “balance” on its political news programs, and I have no problem with that approach. I can appreciate the (usually) good-natured give and take. There have even been times when I found myself agreeing with Pat. I bear him no animosity. But this incident is not the kind of conduct I can find acceptable on MSNBC, the network I choose most often to watch.
It is clear that Pat Buchanan has outlived his usefulness as a “political analyst” on MSNBC. He should be replaced with someone who can comport himself or herself with the dignity and courtesy that your viewers deserve.”
the address is in Teddy’s comment 70 linked above.
I don’t forget. I live in “blue California”, but it’s district 49 represented by Darrell Issa. That’s going to change soon too.
Cats, whether Leopards, Lions and tigers are both male and female sexes.
I was considering using the phrase “pull her punches” but actually though that it would convey the wrong impression. Have another suggestion?
Are you movin’– or is he?
What is the ‘entire’ point?
great video, Howie. Jane’s in the baseball cap, right?
The point is that there is an insane Republican in an elected position stirring up hatred against minorities. It could be anywhere. And we need to fight it wherever it is. That we have an ally like Andrew to help, is a godsend
An opportunity seized to tell you how much I appreciate your work, Howie. Political activism has the power to move mountains.
Oh thankyou soooo much for setting me straight. I’m in awe.
Howie…I always thought that this was the better-known HSR song
Jackie Onassis
Another one you could work up!
Thanks. It’s about the community we’re all in together
I just want to say to kiddo that I value your and Lahoma’s presence here very much. Your comments add a lot to the dialogue and the sense of community here. As a former Oklahoman, I personally have no problem with Howie’s post. There are idiots everywhere. I thought he balanced the negative image suggested by this woman with the very positive image that Andrew Rice gives to your state. But you are certainly entitled to your own opinion. I don’t mean to suggest that you aren’t. I just hope you will stay around. :)
Roland just arrived to take me to dinner. He’s more dangerous than terrorists or Islam.
He will. Do you question the ability of the Robert Hamilton campaign to replace him? Just cuz we have $25,000 and he has untold millions? Give it up, Howie. We’re going to educate this district!
have a wonderful dinner howie
Poor Keith. He seems to think all lunacy out of Hillaryland stems from the advisers. Make no mistake, this crap is coming straight from Hillary herself. This is nothing new from her. Dog whistles are her specialty.
“Take him at his word…as far as I know…etc” Please.
i can sympathize more than i care to admit … being a queer from Bob Corker and Lamar Alexander -ville. it just means i have to write (and rant (-;< ) more than some.</p>
Take care all. I am off to the sack.
Loo Hoo…I think that Boeing might have some jobs in your District. Find out, and start to make a little stink between the nominee and the local Representative ;-)
Thanks for doing this, Howie. I hope to make a contribution for Andrew before the election, but it will be a bit later since I just put in for the FISA fight today. It’s really exciting to see so many people coming together over causes that can really make a difference in our world.
I have finally talked kiddo into going upstairs for a movie. But to tell you the truth Mr. Klein, we, kiddo and I, are a bit weary of hearing about the problems, from others (non-Oklahomans) that we face here in Oklahoma.
Clinton’s apologies notwithstanding [for Ferraro’s comments, for her husband in SC], the pattern remains damning…and the numbers of repetitions over time by minion after minion of Hillary’s shows a clear tactic that no apologies can wash away.
I stand by my comment back in Pach’s posting and my homeblog.
Exactly. This is on Hillary. Clinton.
Thanks, I will.
I can understand that but I didn’t mean the story to be about Oklahoma. It just turned out she happens to be from there. Oklahoma is no different from anywhere else.
How dare you Howie Klein!
Trying to save our Republic and all that shit. For Shame!
As an Arkansan (and one time OK resident) I will gladly accept any and all help in shining a light on our bigots while promoting good folks at the same time.
Howie, thank you so much!
I am in for what little I am able to contribute tonight.
Florida is so broke they are laying off prosecutors!
Buddy can you spare a billion?
Damn I missed the speacial comments, I’ll catch it on rerun, i suppose but thanks to the folks live blogging. Though I’ll have to hunt down what rachel maddow said the puke buchanan for telling that young woman to shut up
See the top post @ http://crooksandliars.com/ for the KO video.
it’s up on c&l
Mort Zuckerman had the audacity to say; “Spitzer’s actions and downfall is the most stunning in recent history…!” Uh, Mort, look at Foley’s, Vitter’s, Craig’s, ad nauseum… stances on the issues, and say that again with a straight face…!
WTF was Walter Mondale thinking!?!
Wooing the women vote…? Just a guess…!
Sandman, what part of FL are you in?
“Florida is so broke they are laying off prosecutors!
Buddy can you spare a billion?”
I am sure it’s the fault of ‘them emmygrants’.
Ohh Im not but have to put up with Corker! what a loser.
thank you
OT:
Most excellent Spitzer-related media gaffe: CNN
from Boing Boing by Xeni Jardin
I have nothing to add to this excellent sentence:
CNN apologized today for getting on-air analysis of Gov. Spitzer’s legal options from a former U.S. Attorney who resigned after being accused of biting a stripper.
Would Harold Ford Jr, really made a difference, anyways…? 8-(
I don’t think I heard of Mort Zuckerman until today, on Bloomberg web site, he says the US is already in a recession with no end in sight.
Re RonD, Space Coast.
Not when he’s compared to Harold Ford…
Thanks for making my day ! I needed a laugh.
Cafe coronary-choke,choke…
any time friend!
Anybody else think the crocodile tears the media were shedding over “the wife” standing stoically by her man [translation: being used again by her man] were really over the top on this one? Oh, we feel so sorry for Silda and the girls, so sorry that we’re going to milk this angle for all it’s worth with pond scum like Laura Schlessinger.
Maybe, just maybe, that look in Contessa Brewer’s eyes today was actual intelligence and revulsion at the script she had to follow and the wish she could go home and take a shower. Wolfie and others, not so much, didn’t seem to bother ol’ breathless a bit…
I used to have friends in Satellite Beach…I’m over in Tampa. Nice to meetcha.
Mort’s been the editor of US News and World Report, for years now, been a regular guest on McLaughlin Report, too…!
Yea, but with Ferraro? There were no other options?
That means you now have 49 other states to pick from before coming back here.
Heh, good question…! 8-)
wow, she’s just ape-shit crazy … nothing more to say about that … make it stop!
he might have been a smidge better than Corker, but it was a tough call.
run al, run. (-;< </p>
The best take on Clinton’s actions I’ve seen yet:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..91187.html
Bob Cesca shakes it all down.
Well, if you consider Dianne Feinstein an option…
Mondale conducted a very public search for a female running mate. I forget who the others were.
I’m sorry I supported him. He sure was charming though…and all we had here in TN
I read she is on chemo
I haven’t read the comments but didn’t she have bad things to say about Eureka Springs, AR and the “homosexuals” taking over the town council?
oh yeah … if you want an unbiased fair analysis of clinton’s campaign, huffpost would be the place to find it.
So. What.
Chemo is no excuse. Especially given the pattern repeats itself from long past.
I was in the arena in San Francisco when Ferraro made her acceptance speech at the Democratic national convention in 1984. It was a very exciting moment for the Democratic Party. Ferraro was not known to be a racist, she had a very positive image.
Same here. Can you believe Republicans created the largest state insurance company in the US? (Here in Florida)
These aren’t your father’s Republicans.
Perhaps it’s simply true and stands up to scrutiny?
I believe she was serving time at the time.
I think so…just trying to be funny…and failing it seems…
special comments = wow
Funny that you can’t get away with saying “I’m not a racist, but..(insert extremely racist comment here)” anymore. But if you’re a Christian, all you have to do is say you “love” the gays before saying the most hateful things about them possible. Ms. Kern was most entertaining in prefacing her remarks with a statement implying that she would be in certain danger for the loving things she was about to say about the sissies and dykes in the queer ghetto that is The Great Plains. Wow, that took some courage! God knows I say a prayer and clench my anus everytime I have to take I-35 anywhere.
of course, given the preponderance of clinton stories on huffpost over the last year, i’m sure that’s the likely reason.
ever read arianna’a take down of al gore during his 2000 race? equally journalistically honest.
even i have my warts. (-:
Got back here late, but I wanted to say best of luck to your “furry kid”!
A dog? Or a cat? Sorry I don’t know, but I either missed an earlier reference or forgot in my disorganized brain.
Good for you for taking care of it — hope you used a good antibiotic ointment or some other antimicrobial agent on the bandage.
Our “kid” (pupster) got infected paws from chewing on her pads during allergy season (inhalant allergies can even cause pads to ooze an itchy brownish discharge, if the allergies are bad enough — dogs do amazing things with their pads — leaving scent and such, and they perspire through their paws, all stuff I was amazed to learn about).
The infection came, not from the chewing itself, but from subsequent exposure to a staph infection in the ground she walked on (so said the vet, anyway).
What did you use to hold the bandage on? We used gauze wrapping (with an antibiotic ointment and “black salve” [ichthammol] mixture), but then held it in place with bandaging tape topped with a TODDLER’S SOCK, which in turn was held in place with a gently tied ribbon.
What a pain in the butt it is to try to keep bandaging on a pet’s paws!!! They don’t seem to understand the reasoned explanation you give for why they shouldn’t chew and scrape it off. ;-)
There are many different writers there with many different opinions. I was highlighting one particular article that I thought perfectly captured what The Clintons are all about.
You can simply dismiss anything at the site as Clinton-hating, or you can choose follow the link I put my comment. Whatever the case, certain truths remain.
this is epu, but didn’t know if anyone posted it—
these are two things about the ’wound too tight’ woman rep from oklahoma who compared gays to terrorists.
this one is about her gay son. yeyp, her GAY son.
http://www.queerty.com/sally-k…..-20080312/
this one is interesting, too……..she’s screamin’ ’they’re threatening my life because i’m speaking to you all’…….and the fbi said, well, maam, not quite…….yet.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news…..hThey04584
What a supreme load of shit! This woman needs to be hospitalized for her ignorance. Homosexuality is not bad or evil, it is natural to many people.
For a legislator to be this monumentally ignorant requires natural stupidity, plus learned homophobia. That’s a deadly combination.
As a native Oklahoma, I can only retch in disgust. This kind of crap is a large part of why my husband and I moved our family from my native state. No way do I want my children to grow up listening to and learning from such ignorant, hate-mongering people.
Just sent an actblue donation to Rice!
And so you condemn the whole state of Oklahoma. I’m sure that whatever state you relocated to doesn’t have people that talk and think the way Ms. Kern does. As an Oklahoman you should be ashamed of yourself. As another Native Oklahoman, I can say, with clarity, that you shame our state. Shame on you. I spent more that half my life in California and Florida. And let me tell you there are lots of folks like Kern in those two states and in just about all points in between.
Please sign the Petition to Remove/Terminate Sally Kerns from the State Legislature. OK to post/Please repost
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/request-to-termin