Comments on: Who Won The Texas Caucuses? Who Knows?

By: ChrisO

ChrisO — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:32:01 +0000

This is old news. It’s also standard campaign practice. We’ve heard plenty of stories from Texas about people being bullied, people trying to take control of the caucuses, shutting doors on voters, etc. What campaign worth it’s salt would just sit back and let the other campaign control the caucus? There have been stories of Obama workers telling Clinton supporters they can leave the caucus after casting their vote, so when the delegates were actually selected there wouldn’t be enough Clinton supporters on hand.

I have no idea which of these stories are true, but if the potential for this kind of mischief exists, what campaign wouldn’t try and control the process?

The Obama campaign keeps getting talked up for its smarts and organization, particularly at caucuses. Do you really think they didn’t take the exact same approach, and instead sat back and let the Clinton campaign run things?

This is just anothe ginned up outrage of the day for Obama supporters.

By: ChrisO

ChrisO — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:22:58 +0000

So did Raw Story interview all of those voters to ask them why they voted? Why is it when Obama attracts Republican voters he’s showing his broad appeal, but when Republican’s vote for Hillary (which we don’t even know if they did) it’s part of a nefarious plot? Funny how Rush is so powerful among Republicans, yet his enemy McCain is the nominee. Just because Rush claims something doesn’t mean it happened.

I’d be interested in some evidence that shows which way all those Republicans voted. They just give their party affiliation, you know, they don’t say how they’re going to vote. So does Obama attract the Republican vote or not?

By: secularhumanizinevoluter

secularhumanizinevoluter — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:06:30 +0000

Yeah, who needs that pesky ol vote thingy anyway, let’s just have the most obnoxious, aggressive folks shout down anyone with another opinion and call obamalamadingdong the winner…now THAT’S democracy!!

By: hazmaq

hazmaq — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:22:54 +0000

OBAMA WINS! Because Team Clinton think caucuses are UNDEMOCRATIC anyway and that those voters don’t count.
AL FRANKEN WINS! His Democratic rival just dropped out.

Say goodby Hillary!
Say goodby Norm!

Obama and Franken -THEY’RE GOOD ENOUGH, THEY’RE SMART ENOUGH AND DOGGONE IT - PEOPLE LIKE ‘EM!

By: secularhumanizinevoluter

secularhumanizinevoluter — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:14:51 +0000

Awwww, who cares. Just announce obalamadingdong won big whether he did or not. HE will.

By: voxpopgirl

voxpopgirl — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:11:53 +0000

Umm, maybe this will explain why those caucus delegate results aren’t being reported/are being held back:

The Dallas Morning News’ blog online reported on Sat. Mar. 1 that Clinton caucus training materials instructed supporters to fight for procedural control.

Why? To control the announcement of the delegates.

The Dallas Morning News reported:

In training materials being handed out by the Clinton campaign, it is clear that they want to control those caucus sessions. The materials say in part, ‘DO NOT allow the supporter of another candidate to serve in leadership roles.’

[SNIP]

The Clinton Campaign Texas Training Materials stated:

“The control of the sign-in sheets and the announcement of the delegates allotted to each candidate are the critical functions of the Chair and Secretary. This is why it is so important that Hillary supporters hold these positions.“

http://trailblazers.beloblog.c.....ategy.html

By: craz3z

craz3z — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:36:37 +0000

This doesn’t surprise me. I lived in Texas for 2 years, and I found it very difficult to vote there. First, I had to have a voter ID card in order to vote. When I moved to a different county and changed my address for my drivers license online I asked to change my voter registration. I got two notices from the county I moved from letting me know that I had been removed from their registration list but never got a new voter ID card from the new county despite repeated requests. By the time I left Texas 8 months later I had yet to receive a voter ID card. This is probably part of the reason why Texas has always averaged 20 something percent turnout in previous elections. I can only imagine how frustrating it must have been. November can only be worse.

By: STTPinOhio

STTPinOhio — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:50:47 +0000

“She had a sincerely worried look on her face.“

If I was a smart ass, I would ask “How could you tell?”

But I’m not, so, never mind.

By: STTPinOhio

STTPinOhio — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:47:24 +0000

It’s definitely true. When it happened, they even had a copy of the canceled check on the news.

By: dmac

dmac — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:41:20 +0000

ecahn–he was mayor, and city council in cincinnati, he wasn’t going to get the nomination, he was small-time……..i didn’t even remember him running for governor, and i was informed, so, couldn’t have been that serious of a run.

and the hooker thing was laughed about all over town…….not that he got a hooker, but that he didn’t use cash. was at the quality inn, covington, northern kentucky. i think he was single at the time.

didn’t hurt him a bit was what we all thought. people made jokes about it, the funny kind…even he did…even the bastion of two-faced willy cunningham-pre-willy–wlw radio, didn’t even spend too much time on it, except to laugh about it. and cincinnati at that time was VERY republican.

at that time, he also did daily commentaries on the local rock show, webn, where he kicked ass daily…..i still remember the one he did about unions……..he was already branching out into other arenas by then.