Login HereThe NYT has updated their report:
Gov. Eliot Spitzer has been caught on a federal wiretap arranging to meet with a high-priced prostitute at a Washington hotel last month, according to a person briefed on the federal investigation.
The wiretap recording, made during an investigation of a prostitution ring called Emperors Club VIP, captured a man identified as Client 9 on a telephone call confirming plans to have a woman travel from New York to Washington, where he had reserved a room. The person briefed on the case identified Mr. Spitzer as Client 9.
The governor learned that he had been implicated in the prostitution probe when a federal official contacted his staff last Friday, according to the person briefed on the case.
The New York Sun has details into the investigation of Emperor's Club VIP.
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Damn that was quick
If guilty; yes.
Jane?
Given that he’s made all kinds of remarks against prostitution rings, yes. It’s the hypocrisy here.
If gov’t/taxpayer money was involved, then absolutely.
Otherwise I’d consider it his own bidness.
Same as with republicans.
That’s why we need more female mayors, governors, presidents. When was the last time a female politician was caught with a prostitute (or intern or congressional page)?
Repubican or democrat, men are men!
Ah, that’s better.
Yup, I think he should resign. But as a matter of form, he needs to come up with some entirely unbelievable reason for meeting the prostitute in the first place.
So is the prostitute going to do the rounds on the talk shows? Or would that be too much of a pay cut for her?
I think he should work to decriminalize prostitution and apologize.
I think one of the worst human virtues is hypocrisy.
Yes, if only to demonstrate to the American people and the Republican party that breaking the law has consequences, and that honorable people take responsibility for their decisions. This is not the year to be burdening one’s allies with scandal.
By the way, you know that theory? The one about how, since they’ve been wiretapping basically everyone from their first day in office the Bush Administration must have the goods on everybody, and if people don’t toe their line they threaten to expose them to scandal? Yeah. How ’bout that theory?
He was going to meet up with this prostitute on the 13th of February. That’s the day before Valentines day for christ sake. He needs to resign quickly and put an end to this story.
I used to have a male pal in college who was a prostitute. For women only.
I think he should keep his job and attack. Yeah, I paid to get laid…if I was in Nevada, it wouldn’t have been a crime. And it shouldn’t be a crime here and I’m going to change it.
Of course, given his moral crusader image, that may not be possible.
Boxturtle (Might be best for him to resign and slink away before the election)
And just in case you didn’t notice, men have been doing this for thousands of years. Ladies don’t fool yourselves, they’re all the same. Some are slightly better than others but its a matter of degree not kind.
Where’s Lorena Bobbit when we need her? In all fairness though, at least it wasn’t in a bathroom stall
It will be somewhat interesting to hear the other names on the list of “clients.” Joe Schmuckola ain’t gonna be able to afford many visits with a $1K per hour call girl, to say nothing of $5.5K per hour. There pretty much have to be other well recognizable names on the list.
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Citizen Hamsher and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
I have for years been beatin’ the drums ta do away with or at least decriminalize “victimless” crimes, not just “morality” crimes but marijuana possession and many other “drug” crimes. And in this case, I think that Spitzer could ride this one out and it would take a lotta attention and heat away from national politics and some more divisive issues inside the Democratic Party in NY…but I REALLY feel for Spitzer and I want ‘im ta do what’s best for his family. This is probably gunna jest give the Democratic Party in NY back ta Schumer and Bloomberg but I don’t think it’s gunna have much effect beyond the internal dynamics of NY Democrats.
KEEP THE FAITH AND WATCH OUT FOR THE GLASS IF YER THINKIN’ ABOUT FLINGIN’ ANY STONES!!
By the way, you know that theory? The one about how, since they’ve been wiretapping basically everyone from their first day in office the Bush Administration must have the goods on everybody, and if people don’t toe their line they threaten to expose them to scandal? Yeah. How ’bout that theory?
This is a large part of the reason I voted no.
The GF just called and asked if I had heard about Spitzer. I said yes and did you see that the going rate was $5000/hour? She..”where do I sign up?”..Me.. “sorry they only want PhDs and Lawyers”…She “Damn..I should have gone to law school”
p.s. I wonder where the leak came from?
after watching his statement , gov of NY not leaveing
these power happy jecks just don’t get it . America you are the ones,,, seeing the real prostitues.
Yer right on!!
Some argue that HRC and Billy own the Demo party in NY.
Has Spitzer endorsed Obama or Clinton?
Along with all the other bad boys of congress. No making one resign without Craig and Vitter heading to the land of retirement with him. Why only one pay the price (oops, no pun intended) when the others go free (heeheehee).
It’s pretty black and white. If he is found guilty or admits guilt then he should resign. It is currently against the law. Break the law and pay the consequences.
I don’t know, but he can keep his god damn dick in his pants. Jesus fucking Christ Elliot.
correction: downstairs I quoted “Indicted 2/7 - sealed”
it was a sealed criminal complaint, not indictment
mutterings about resignation and swearing in of successor @ 7pm est
Men should not be allowed to post on this story. Guys, your the problem not the solution.
Well, his career as a pol is done, but as a lame duck he has nothing to fear and he can really go progressive and aggressive.
I say he should take the opportunity and do something with it.
On TDS Spitzer said he was a delegate for Hillary.
Not on any moral basis, I voted hesitatingly “yes,” he should resign.
His conduct reveals a staggering lapse in judgement. Again, not from a moral perspective, but if you’re the governor of a state, and you want to screw hookers, people will notice. The hookers will know who you are. The fact that he got caught suggests to me he had an illusion of teflon. I found his statement today, with his wife at his side, to be consistent with that illusion of teflon. Fair or not, all a lot of us wants to hear about from Eliot is what sex is like with a $5,000/hour hooker.
He’s a smart guy. We need smart people in government. If he can provide good government, I have no problem if he stays on.
It’s also very important to me that he’s in a Blue state. If I thought it was between Eliot and a Republican taking over New York state, than ofcourse I wouldn’t want him to resign.
I’m in retirement. Do you think I’m too old to qualify for that $5,000. per hour job? I could use the cash. Would that be net? I thought that older with more experience I could get a little more per hour ;)
Is this a serious comment?
I don’t think they have a case against him.
But I think that this spying shit has to stop.
BBC has more.
NY governor apologises in scandal
It’s a matter of supply and demand.
paid for fuckery.
Agree completely. I also wanted the list in the Vitter case released….you know good for the goose etc.
You can bet there are some VIPs on this list and that the Wall Street guys who are celebrating this are not the ones who are worried themselves.
Have long thought that Spitzer had made himself a target even before this. Now everyone should worry.
That is the first thing I thought of.
Millionaires SHOULD pay more for some things. They can afford it.
Maybe he wanted something kinky and wifey was a prude. Maybe there wasn’t even “sex”.
Who cares??????????????????????????????/
Yeah he broke the law, he should resign.
All elected officials who break the law should resign in the order of the damage of their crimes, number of people killed and wounded etc.
That list would start with Bush, Cheney….. ah you know the list… it’s long.
Joel
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Citizen kiddo and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
I deliberately kept Mrs. Clinton out of the mix ‘cuz I personally don’t think she runs ANYthin’…she takes orders and, if ya look at the management of her campaign and the total lack of flexibility and coordination from the top, you might get the idea that she can’t manage a rock garden let alone the politics of a state.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION THIS TOO SHALL PASS!!
Has the media blamed Hillary for this yet?
I vote: cannot decide
OT to QuakerGirl — or should I say “babe”. Older women are better in the sack. 5k? I dunno.
Is the New York Sun a credible publication?
Semiserious!
Yet another irony. Spitzer bullied lots of his targets cause he got ahold of their phone calls, emails, text messages, etc. And that’s just how he got caught. Teeheehee.
He should resign. Just to get it out of the headlines. McGreavy isn’t in the spotlight anymore but Vitter is. As long he is the Governor the first and only questions asked will be about his involvement. I hope the DNC’s eye is on the big picture and convinces him to go. I don’t know who is in line of succession but it doesn’t matter. I swear, the Democrats will find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. They are going to have to load the Democratic leaders up with saltpeter until after the elections. I am not naive enough to believe Democrats are cleaner, smarter or more moral than Republicans, I just hoped they could keep it under wraps better.
WTF is wrong with these people?
Wow, I was back on the other thread about the re-vote cost. Your quick, Jane
We gotta get out of this puritanical thing. It’s the 21st century.
Ever notice the media and its constant pre occupation with sex, glamor, make overs and so forth.
What the eff do you expect people to do with all that “titillation”? Aren’t we all encourage to party hearty?
His wife looks devastated.
My vote: No
consenting adults
free market
wife should be throwing his stuff into the street…..
Another Murdoch rag.
He had an account and a balance on the account.
John Corzine told his driver to break the law and speed and he almost lost his life in an accident and he coulda killed innocent people.
Did anyone lose their job or go to jail or pay a fine?
I felt the same way with Clinton. When you are surrounded by enemies who are out to get you, why do you hand up your….on a silver platter. Just plain common sense, guys!
What do you mean, the supply of low life men vastly exceeds the supply of ethical ones?
Speculation re resignation. Lt. Gov. Paterson (blind, iirc) may not want to take over the damaged administration. If he demurs, State Senator Bruno, arch enemy of Spitzer, would become gov. More ironies than you can count.
Yes, I read what your are telling us somewher this am. Ms. Clinton doesn’t seem to be a very good manager. But someone is pulling the strings in NY.
Sexist much there WigWag?
The DOJ is involved, and that makes this whole thing stink to high heaven.
Paid a fine.
who?
Yes, he should resign. It’s illegal. Obviously, you can make a very good case that it shouldn’t be, but as of now, it IS, and he’s the Governor. He can’t break the law, and it isn’t for him to decide that some laws aren’t important.
It also shows appalling stupidity. You have to be godawful dumb to be messing with hookers when you’re a Governor.
The sexist ones are the people paying for sex.
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Firepup Freedom Fighters:
I jest saw part of his presser…it doesn’t look like he’s goin’ ANYwhere soon unless Schumer sends Mrs. Clinton out ta crank up the heat and I don’t think she’ll do it ‘cuz it might ta backfire on ‘er BIG TIME!
I for one will get behind ‘im if that’s what he is chosin’ ta do …let’s let the folks in New York sort this one out.
KEEP THE FAITH AND KEEP YER EYES OPEN…IT’S 3 O’CLOCK, DO YA KNOW WHERE YER SPOUSE IS??!!
Spot on!
Let his wife and kids handle him. It will be a lot worse. His kids have to be deeply hurt, disappointed in their hero dad, knocked for a family values loop and really, really angry with him. His wife should nail his balls to the floor.
Yes. Rove’s DOJ.
Hookers…not a freebee from Monica…a pro booked bet ehe kept a semen sample…what a frickin asshole…no a dumb cop….during the primaries and he’s a bigtime cop.
he is smart enough I hope not to deny it when he’s on tape.
Your busted and your the freakin governor who plays switchy. Can someone give classes on how to protect your political brand.
Voter: They are all the same.
Frank Zappa…the universe is made up of stupidity because there is so much more of it.
who paid to repair the car… the hospital costs… whp paid the price for Corzine and the cop acting lawless?
Low life NY governor pays 5 large for sex with rather attractive Georgetown law student.
She needs the bucks. He needs the grunt.
I’m certain she is. Silda’s a wonderful woman and would never have expected this.
How much longer in his current term? (Thinking that Paterson might agree to complete term but not go for reelection?)
Way to have no compassion for Mrs. Spitzer.
He should resign. What a disappointment.
Corzine, iirc, and there were other discipliary measures. I’ll see if I can find a link.
Which men and women both do.
So what is your point?
He hasn’t been charged or convicted of a crime yet… why should he resign
He’s only 1 year 3 months into a four year term. Too much time left for someone who doesn’t want the job.
It’s all too confusing. I need some one to sort it out for me. And she’ll be home soon.
Does this open a door for Bloomberg? There’s been talk about him running for gov.
What is he actually supposed to have been caught doing which is illegal?
To get it out of the headlines so that his family is not so exposed to this. It is a horrible situation for them.
Yes, but he certainly seems to be admitting it in his statement.
FWIW, from a legal perspective, I think it would be wise for the U.S. to explore legalizing some forms of prostitution. I don’t think locking up adult hookers is a terrific use of law enforcement resources.
From a moral perspective, I personally think prostitution is a significant problem for the johns and the hookers. I didn’t mean to imply otherwise in my comment above.
I was approaching the question from the perspective of Spitzer’s ability to do his job.
Paterson can be gov. Why would he take the Lt gov post if he wasn’t prepared to be gov.
I like him better than Spitz.
Someone on the last thread said that it has to do with participating in transporting the hooker across state lines which is a violation of an old act, the Mann act.
If he goes down, I wonder how many he could take with him?
Oh, you’re right. Hmmm. I’m assuming Paterson could take over to smooth the roiled waters and then outline a quicker transition plan (special election).
Good question.
I think he should resign.
Right after Vitter and Craig resign.
I am firm on this. I want to hold the members of my political party to at least the same standards I hold the Republicans. And hopefully a little higher.
From what I heard about the succession rules, no.
He should have enrolled in grad school and claimed she was his major professor.
Sandero - he solicited - and he may have done it across state lines - ridiculous but illegal
How come Little Boots doesn’t resign over J.G.??
We all know the answer to that question.
I’m with you.
Right now there is a trial in Queens concerning a buy and bust operation that resulted in the killing of Sean Bell. They were trying to bust prostitution.. hookers. And Bell paid with his life.
Can we stop this madness.
People are dying in Iraq. People are stealing BILLIONS of our dollars, females are being raped, humans are being tortured, rendered, others are denied trials.
Can we have some balance and perspective. This is nonsense for prudes and puritans.
Quite frankly, I’ve had enough sex for one afternoon. I need to go home and get supper started.
Mann Act. Prostitution across state lines.
The references that come up under google are all in the immediate aftermath of Corzine’s accident, so looking for the fines & other consequences is like looking for a needle in a haystack, so I’m not going to pursue it. I remember there were some, don’t remember what they were, but they were not too onerous.
How many males go to the slammer when CAUGHT with a hooker.
David Paterson
David A. Paterson (born May 20, 1954) is an American politician and the current Lieutenant Governor of New York. He is the first African American to hold this position. He was selected as running mate by New York Attorney General and Democratic Party nominee Eliot Spitzer in the 2006 New York gubernatorial election.
Paterson was born legally blind in Brooklyn in 1954.
Apparently he crossed state lines, not her. What’sthe violation there?
Oh really? What do you suppose the percentage of men versus women paying for sex?
He owes the public an apology for hypocrisy and perhaps for breaking the law (depends on what he did).
Sex between consenting adults should not be a crime.
It may be a good time to bring pressure against Republican Senator David Vitter to resign– the one who got caught doing the same thing in New Orleans. At least we could pick up a Democratic replacement Senator in LA, while we would continue to hold the Governor’s mansion in NY.
I think one of the worst human virtues is hypocrisy.
I think William Bennett left this one out of his book. Just kidding, I know what you meant.
I think it’s a little premature to be talking about jail time. Or do you have a link to share?
I am beside myself with rage. What is so damned difficult about acting like a responsible adult. The hypocrisy just makes me furious. If this impacts the election in an significant way, I will probably have a stroke.
utahgirl
We have an accountability problem in this country. Corzine, a billionaire got off way too easy for his CRIME.
What is prostitution across state lines? Is that rubbish or what?
GET REAL.
The hooker came from NY to DC, and he paid for the trip.
I don’t know the statistics off-hand, but it would be sexist to try and come up with some generalizations based on that.
I vote no he shouldn’t…resign I mean….
Hiya Jane…
And if you want the full story on how sleazy Spitzer was as NYS AG, flip to CNBC. He didn’t hesitate to use dirt on his targets’ private lives to squeeze them. Sauce for goose, sauce for ganer.
Uh, I believe the current governor of LA is an R so most likely an R appointed until a special election in a red state
what’s the problem with paying for sex?
99% of males do it in one form or another. hahahha
Who gives a shit, that’s not a crime.
It’s not about sex, it’s about the law and about judgment. If the allegations are true, Spitzer is reckless, compulsive, incapable of controlling his desires, and willing to break the law to do so. He’s also blind to the needs of is family, state, and party, in that order, putting them second to his own drives.
This isn’t someone you want in power, even if the drives are mundane - if Spitzer had broken the law to buy cigarettes his judgment would have been just as reckless.
However since he appears to be deciding to hold on to power, he ought to offer to resign right after Senators Craig and Vitter. Then he’ll be in office til the voters remove him.
(Frankly, I would have enjoyed it if his wife stepped up to the microphone and said “Actually, I’m fine with it. We had a marvelous three-way.”)
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Citizen kiddo and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
“But somebody is pullin’ the strings in New York.”
And I could offer ya an idea about who that might be but I would get “moderated” and would probably bring the lunatic fringe from that block out with numbers. Suffice it ta say that the folks that control New York weren’t major contributors to Spitzer’s efforts when he was Atty, General. That slimy Schumer must be scurryin’ around quite gleefully right now.
And a heads up to those that wanna start usin’ the “sexist” angle in this discussion…don’t even THINK about it!! WigWag ya better think twice before ya throw anymore a that crazy-assed shit out in this forum.
KEEP THE FAITH AND DON’T LET YER MOUTH WRITE ANY CHECKS YER ASS CAN’T CASH!!!
As in “I do” ?
I think that they should use whatever they can to stop corporate criminals.
He should resign to spend more time with his family, if they’ll have him.
He didn’t do anything to his family.
He didn’t DO anything which should matter to anyone else.
Didn’t someone write that she was a law student at Georgetown. What state line?
If true, that cinches it for me. He needs to resign.
I think the Mann Act is still on the books.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mann_Act
Interesting, isn’t it, how we attract to ourselves what we do to others. Things often work out that way.
Interesting day, ‘eh?
This Spitzer cat didn’t realize he was leaving an “electronic paper trail” — especially in this day of panoptic Bu’ush era surveillance?
Dude, that alone oughta disqualify you from public office, on grounds of abject stupidity.