"Why can’t a woman be more like a man?" bemoans the poorly socialized, self-absorbed narcissist Professor Higgins. Why, so we could have twice the amount of Teh Stupid like we witnessed today?
As Jane noted earlier, there are still far too many intriguing (to say the least) questions surrounding this latest scandal that demand satisfactory answers before final judgment on Eliot Spitzer be declared.
That being said, as a resident of New York and someone who voted for Mr. Spitzer, I have a question for him: what the HELL were you thinking? You were the Attorney General, for crissakes, the self-righteous bulldog who chased down white collar criminals and prosecuted them. Successfully. You made yourself a whole lot of enemies on Wall Street who would kick up their well-polished heels if you were publicly scandalized. You won the Governor’s mansion running on your record at the AG’s office. Oh, did I mention the enemies you made on Wall Street? Buzz was that you were probably going to run for President in the near future, even though your track record of late was taking a beating.
And you threw it away on a high-priced hooker. I don’t give a shit if she had a Ph.D. in economics and was counseling you on the hidden pitfalls of NAFTA while she stuck a ball gag in your mouth and flagellated you with a cat o’ nine tails. I don’t even care that you had sex with a hooker, although your wife is probably a little perturbed to be the last to know about your tryst with one of the Emperors Club’s finest and your kids are now a little fuzzy on the whole "personal morality" issue. I just can’t believe how stupid you were. If this was a trap set by the Wall Street-financed Republican smear machine, then you walked right into it with your penis leading the way.
Let’s consider another angle, too, Mr. Spitzer. Thanks to your testosterone-driven madness, our Lieutenant Governor will have to step up if you decide to step aside. You understand what that means, right? It means that you’ve just made it that much more difficult for the Democrats to retake the Senate majority, which is tantalizingly within reach for the first time in over 40 years. Because you couldn’t keep it in your pants.
What is it with moralistic politicians and sex? How do we differentiate Spitzer from the Dapper Diaperman, David Vitter? Or Larry Craig, Baron of the Bathroom Stall? So the Emperors Club prostitutes have college and graduate degrees — so do a lot of lobbyists.
Honestly, it’s straight out of Woody Allen’s short story, The Whores of Mensa:
"I’m on the road a lot. You know how it is – lonely. Oh, not what you’re thinking. See, Kaiser, I’m basically an intellectual. Sure, a guy can meet all the bimbos he wants. But the really brainy women – they’re not so easy to find on short notice."
"Keep talking."
"Well, I heard of this young girl. Eighteen years old. A Yassar student. For a price, she’ll come over and discuss any subject – Proust, Yeats, anthropology. Exchange of ideas. You see what I’m driving at?"
"Not exactly."
"I mean my wife is great, don’t get me wrong. But she won’t discuss Pound with me. Or Eliot. I didn’t know that when I married her. See, I need a woman who’s mentally stimulating, Kaiser. And I’m willing to pay for it. I don’t want an involvement – I want a quick intellectual experience, then I want the girl to leave. Christ, Kaiser, I’m a happily married man."
Only this true story has a happy ending.




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WT!
watertiger…
Like. Duh.
watertiger!
Why can’t a man be more like a woman? No, wait… 8-)
this whole thing really pissed me off.
Eliot looks tyo be a goner. He should know better: leaving an electronic trail, transporting from NY to DC…the Mann Act for Chrisssakes….
Spitzer (Client #9) used the name of ‘George Fox’, one of his campaing donors. Expected to do things that “weren’t safe.” According to WCBS in NYC.
Tomorrows NYT editorial points out the hypocracy of Mr. Spitzer
NYT
84% say Spitzer should resign.
I have to say, it was incredibly stupid. Even lowly me knows that I better have my financial ducks in order on the chance that Joe Lieberman becomes, you know, Attorney General or something one day.
Heh, 17 years and counting…!
evening watertiger and folks
What is it with moralistic politicians and sex?
“Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac”.
That, and in my experience, prosecutors (ok, not all) have a god-complex…
This from Jeralyn:
link
Lt. Gov. making calls, indicating he’ll take over (also suggesting that CNBC speculation that Paterson wouldn’t take over a flamed-out administration was baloney.)
exactly. dude spent how many years prosecuting just this kind of behavior and then he commits it himself? what’s the DSM terminology for that kind of self-immolation?
hubris
OK. Local broughaha over Spitzer is over. Back to more serious news. Bwahahahaha. (Disclosure: I never watch local news.)
Why wouldn’t he take over..He is more than qualified according to his bio.
Excellent rant, Agua Tigre!
surgeons, too.
The NYT agrees..
I think he should make his parting shot be something along the lines of “I’ve stepped down; and I think that Senators Craig and Vitter should do the same.”
Make ‘em chew on that awhile.
Uh-huh.
lol @ The Whores of Mensa. That is funny.
hi…
that works for me, pw. i would enjoy that press conference very much
I resemble that. *g*
Don’t know the back story on this. Only heard on CNBC earlier in the day that Paterson might not want to take over an Administration that had flamed out. Could be wishful thinking; could be associated with Paterson’s visual empairment; could be related to absolutely nothing. I mean to be reporting, not opining.
I asked on an earlier thread and got some interesting answers, but I’m still wondering: What did Spitzer allegedly get that he thought was worth $4300?
I mean, I have no experience in this area, but I had always heard that many services were available other places for a small fraction of that amount. What is so special about the Emperor’s Club “escorts,” or this one in particular?
Made me laugh..)
It also reports Spitzer is expected to resign Tuesday.
I hope so! He should have resigned today.
one of my favorite Woody Allen short stories.
Back when he was funny.
Suz – apology accepted.
Throwing bubbles at ya.
It was ment as a question to an informed reporter and not an opiner..we already have enough of those. *g*
If he stays in, he should say “I’ll resign when Vitter and Craig resign.”
If he resigns he should say “I call on Vitter and Craig to resign.”
Unless of course he’s completely narcissistic and power hungry and can’t think of anyone’s needs but his own. Which this situation suggests is the case.
Alan Dershowitz (who taught Eliot at Harvard) now defending him on CNN…no surprise there…Lt-Governor David Patterson to succeed Eliot should he resign…would be the first African-American Governor of NY…
My first hubby was an internist. He used to say that surgeons don’t ask him to do surgery and he doesn’t ask them to think.
Men.
Always thinking with their little heads.
I guess he’s teh stupid.
Bonehead…what was he thinking???? “This is gonna be really good”…”nobody will ever know, and I don’t even care?”…
Reality has come to roost. Unfortunately, it has destroyed the “reality” of those who trusted him. Gawd. Ouch. It happens all the time…all over the world.
Bonehead.
if they can find it.
…leaving an electronic trail that someone was specifically watching….
Hey, my imagination does not want to know what a male in high places gets for $5500/hour. I just don’t want to go there.
Oh Jane,
I need brain bleach for that one before going to sleep!
WYF was he thinking? The dems can’t afford the appearance of this kind of thing. We’re supposed to be the ones who give a damn about the rule of law—even if you think the law sucks, you gotta follow it or challenge it in court. We don’t need for him and this case to become a spectacle while we’re trying to fix this very broken country.
I resemble that remark…! 8-P
Any chance that Alan Dershowitz can grab to get on TV…
Well, the good-bad news, at least for elections, is that I think there is more bad bad news than there are bad pols that they can get up for perp walks (at least flashy enough to merit the kind of sensational treatment Spitzer got).
As I said in the previous thread, hearing about another federal investigation of a CA Democrat that is trumpeted for a few days and then disappears forever is like hearing a traffic report. I guess they came up dry in CA (against Dems, not there there aren’t worthy GOP targets, mind you), so they decided to try out some other states. That is cynical snark.
Below is another interesting story that will be buried (for awhile):
Exhaustive review finds no link between Saddam, al Qaida By Warren P. Strobel, McClatchy Newspapers
Mon Mar 10, 7:08 PM ET
WASHINGTON — An exhaustive review of more than 600,000 Iraqi documents that were captured after the 2003 U.S. invasion has found no evidence that Saddam Hussein’s regime had any operational links with Osama bin Laden’s al Qaida terrorist network.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclat…..hy/2875005
Clenis envy?
two heads are better than one…he was thinking with the head of his dick…
Derschowitz dropped out of the human race when he signed on to torture. Being defended by him is like having the devil on your side. Who needs it?
You are cracking me up!! I don’t want to go their either…but…hmmm…chandeliers…nah….
don’t forget: Eliot is a superdelegate–of Hillary’s…
Nevermind.
Commenters at Jezebel.com have also speculated on the same question. Here are several possibilities:
1)For that amount i better have orgasms and epiphanies and speaking in tongues and finding the meaning of life as soon as I cross the threshold.
2)Apparently this is not vanilla sex. I’m curious, too. I’m thinking of some of those most unusual fetishes, and…nope. Still not worth that money. Oh wait! Maybe she wraps his dick in a heavely cloud while angels pluck on harps. No?
3)Yep – for that sort of cash I would expect unicorns to fly out of her pu*** and fellate me.
There goes another monitor…
That is funny!
20% the right stuff.
;)
“It was a part of my investigation of prostitution.”
poor Slida Wall…been married to Eliot for 20 years…and with nice kids…tragic…
The misandry on today’s threads is a little tiresome.
Look it up.
for any new-comers – welcome to Late-Nite! *g*
The illusion that he is not dallying with a prostitute, and the discretion of a well-paid intimate.
Unfortunately, he didn’t count on the diligence of motivated antagonists.
this has totally wiped offthe front page,the deadliest day for americans in iraq……..and a host of other scandals…so he got laid while twirling a fire lit baton
BTW, why does one have to pay the consequences for one’s better half having a hysterectomy…? Hmmm…?
CNN now has psychotherapists-pundits on, speculating wildly about “men’s needs” and all that..duh? Men need to fuck, period…
TDS does open with Spitzer but then goes on saying that they’re sure that there will be enough to keep the story alive for another night. Indeed. Not spoiling with jokes or story lines, but just shows that this will hurt for a while unless Spitzer goes away.
well, like i said in another thread. not that it’s justifies things…. but by way of explanation, if you’ve ever nbeen to albany, you know it’s a Godforsaken shithole. Seems a shithole times 10 if you’re from or spent time in NYC – like spitzer who is from the Bronx. Later for you Elliot.
Damn, I meant to put a winky after my misandry…
I still love you, Teddy!
impeach boooooosh and darth….even DUNBASS Feith sez they are crooked liars
Don’t you have a picture to go with that? Please.
The ABC story still doesn’t smell right.
Most people are assuming that structuring means using multiple under $10K payments to avoid a triggering transaction. Did Spitzer really pay more than $10K for a hooker?
One way to read the ABC quote, is that at one time he wired say $4K from his bank to a series of dummy accounts and finally to QET. Being that in the past he prosecuted money launderers he thought this was sufficient to hide where the money to QET came from. He was secretive – he registered at the DC hotel under a false name.
So, lets say he used a bunch of cutouts. Unknown to him the new incarnation of TIA (”Total Information Awareness”) is being tested on live data and up pops Spitzer using cutouts.
Later Spitzer gets paranoid about the technology and switches to a cash only basis.
But the earlier record remains and some bank is persuaded to raise a flag.
I would really like some more details of what sort of “structuring” he is being accused of.
My thoughts exactly DB.
Amen, brother! Mother nature takes over…! *g*
it should be noted that such misandry is directed at politicians and public moralists, tsf.
and you have to admit — Higgins was a creep.
thank you – looking forward to it :)
mr wobbs thinks bananas may be involved (really good expensive boutique bananas)
don’t worry, i’m giving him the one eyebrow what-the-hell look
that is dumbass
I was saving #3 for late nite..Wasn’t that appropriate?
SEX!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There’s also the illusion of value, well-known to those in the sales business.
“Now this product here, it may look like every other one of these you’ve seen, but you can tell by its price that it is far, far superior to any of its competitors.”
Simply being told that something is expensive often leads consumers to think it is therefore better.
Alan Dershowitz (who taught Eliot at Harvard) now defending him on CNN
well, that pretty much seals the deal for me.
Time to resign, Mr. Spitzer.
What did Spitzer allegedly get that he thought was worth $4300?
Certainly not the most expensive blow-job in history. That belongs to Monica and the Big Dawg: $40 million worth…Ken Starr’s fees for his NC-17 report…
Don’t need to. The dude let us down! I am an andry and I feel quite a bit of like misandryating on miserable randry andries myself.
Per others above I hope the Dems don’t make a statement about this without mentioning Vitter, Craig Mark Foley and all the entrapment issues that Jane already catalogued. Our tax dollars at work… .
Spitzer has nothing to lose now. If he wants to “make up with the Democratic party,” he and his attorneys can do a lot of good by fighting this.
what did he get for 5,000?
skinny dipping in a spring chicken pond.
SELLS!
On the one hand, pretty stupid, on the other hand- the only reason this guy may have been interested in wealth and power is in order to fuck these women.
This sounds like the sequel to Driving Miss Daisy.
oh No…Sex is worse than illegal war and TORTURE
mebbe he tortured the hooker…oh nooooooo
What as opposed to ***gra???? Hmmmm…..
Of course, the GF calls me from work and asks where she can sign up to get paid $5,000 per hour.
whatever it was, it had a cape with an ‘S’ on it for super *snark*
Goldman Sachs.
i question the timming …the bloodiest day for the troops
I’m making popcorn. How many takers?
He is torturing us.
What a dick!
Albany is one of those places where there’s no there there. But even so, that doesn’t excuse what Spitzer did. Just like Bill, he can’t keep it zipped. What is it about powerful guys who just have to tempt fate. . . . it’s gotta be more than just hubris, there’s something pathological about it.
It’s not the oldest profession for nothing…! ;-)
mr wobbs refuses to elaborate, just has some smirk on his face
Always great to see darkblack on an FDL thread.
Hope you are well.
and what is PICKLES Booosh…prostitute imo
extremmmmmly high paid
I was amazed when I saw that marketing stategery actually work. Blew me away.
Spitzer must NOT resign until Senator David “poopy-filled diaper fetishist via high-priced specialty hookers” Vitter calls it a day.
I mean, fair is fair.
Spew!!!!
Thank you.
In another case of WTF was this New Yorker thinkin?!?!
http://www.dailybreeze.com/lif…..ci_8489268
This is much worse than Samantha Power’s comment, and Ferraro is much more powerful within Clinton’s campaign. Where’s the outrage and calls for dismissal?
I was saving #3 for late nite..Wasn’t that appropriate?
For Late-Nite? Absolutely. I think, subject to a possible Suz correction, that the only rule is that there are no rules…
(except that ya can’t talk about Fight-Club)
Parmesan, lotsa real butter?
Can I get back to the FL/MI thing? Jane had something earlier and I way disagree. I think Bubba’s right on this one. Seat those delegations “as is.” I’m not real sure what that means w/ MI with so many uncommitted but I guess they’re anti-Hillary if they had a xchance to vote for her and didn’t. M
Spitzer’s a schmuck. Later for him.
Nothing’s free these days…!
that is late late nite
2 EXTREMELY perfect items
uh huh
Again from Jezebel:
Ding..I think that is the right answer..Spitzer didn’t count on the fact that everyone is now wiretapped.
well after she offed numero Uno,she figured love aint all its cracked up to be
Well if I were to indulge in some pop psychology I would say that for sports stars, media celebrities, and politicians it is all the same and involves a mixture of entitlement and risk taking. It is intensely narcissistic because it doesn’t take into account that many of the consequences are paid for by others.
707
Going to pop some corn, I’ll be back in about 158 comments…
Bananas? Whatever happened to strawberries and whipped cream?
just geld the guy already,lets get back to biddness
You couldn’t pay me enough to “spend time” with the Chimperor. $4300? not even 10x that!
mr wobbs: that must have been quite the shag
I am going to be so very interested in the response of Republicans and the right-wing wackadoos. It will be instructive indeed.
Eliot’s lawyers are now negotiating with the Feds…hope he doesn’t go to jail…might encounter unspeakable (at least on this blog) experiences in the hands (so to speak) of people he himself had put in Sing Sing…
Nuh-uh.
Interesting point, Peterr…Almost like the ‘Oh, he/she’s good, but not as good as _________(fill in the blank with favorite sexy celebrity)’ paradigm.
Though, frankly, what was purchased was not necessarily ‘better’…but I suppose the purchaser must ‘maintain the fiction’ and vary the mileage for themselves.
I endeavor to be, Boo, and hope the same for you.
Wouldn’t it be interesting if this was a reverse sting.
that is late late nite
I stand corrected – though I’m usually horizontal by the time late-late nite hits…
Hiya, Suzanne!
and i got milk from the dairy today in a real glass bottle!!!!!!
ROLMFAO
Or carrot sticks and onion rings…
she got some powerful drugs babe,look ather
I think that is right..it isn’t the sex, it’s the risk and danger of exposure. Of course hard ball politics selects for those characteristics.
Well at least he wouldn’t have to up $5000 for it, just a few packs of smokes and a can of smoked oysters
That is what I have thought about some of the things JFK is said to have done.
who wants some fabulous oatmeal cookies i just made
I put him on time-out for a few minutes (he’s on a roll)
Real butter only–hold out your bowls.
mr wobbs wants teh cookies
i’ll settle for a banana (aww man I walked right into that)
The ultimate in gambling.
from the Beeb:
recipe joy of baking
he felt he was gonna die young,from addisons disease
Had a really yummy dark chocolate covered frozen banana this afternoon. Hmmmm.
mokay want some cookies?
he just went to get a bowl of ice cream to go with his cookies *g*
hahahahahahhahahaha
would you explain that, please?
If only he had just gone to a tropical place like Rush Limbaugh… .
When I left the house this morning I figured it would be th court stuff filed to get Meirs and Bolton into sing before Congress. That is a major thing.
Cookies, popcorn & scotch (forgot to mention that). Yum. Serve ‘em up.
in lieu of the topic, I won’t repeat that to my husband…*g*
has it occurred to anyone that the fee IS the bribe? that it is the illegal money?
that maybe the hooker got 500 and the rest was a ’contribution’?
For example: Judith Campbell (Exner)
Wiki
My pork ribs which have been in the oven for only a 1/2 hour is already smelling awesome… I’ve only put a dry rub on it em so far…!
and Oliviers Hamlet is on,and Mcbeth has finished,and Romeo and Juliet is next…poifect nite for moi
Republican voters today are giddily laughing as if their party never has done anything wrong.
Spitzer must NOT resign until Senator David “poopy-filled diaper fetishist via high-priced specialty hookers” Vitter calls it a day.
I mean, fair is fair.
I most emphatically disagree. I think what you’re trying to say is that until the behavior of Democrats sinks to, or below, that of Republicans, that there is nothing to apologize for.
I’m not buying any part of that.
Which party has traditionally been considered to be considered to be the party of “family values”? Not us. At least not up to today, which presents a dramatic opportunity, coupled with Obama’s staffer resigning, to begin to re-claim some of that ephemeral and elusive high moral ground.
It’s time for Spitzer to go, and by doing so, he could actually help by making it clear that his behavior is unacceptable within the Democratic party.
oh bo0y….smashed potatos too?
Agree, thanks for the link. IMO it’s a riff on Joe Biden’s “clean and articulate.” It’s also a riff on Lieberman’s “Are you a Bill Clinton Democrat or a Jesse Jackson Democrat?”
IMO, Barack and Michelle “can’t take the bait.”
Don’t dignify it with a response. That’s not fair, and I don’t mean to dilute the refined white supremacy in her comment, but I think that’s the political calculus. A lot of European Americans
want to use Obama as an example to teach other African American/blacks how to talk and actfeel comfortable with Obama, because he never plays the race card.It is actually unrealistic but I was thinking this could be a string on the repugs ability to spy on their political opponents.
Mwahahahahhaaa!
Main Entry:
mis·an·dry Listen to the pronunciation of misandry
Pronunciation:
ˈmi-ˌsan-drē
Function:
noun
Etymology:
mis- (as in misanthropy) + andr- + 2-y
Date:
circa 1909
: a hatred of men
you all are making me hungry again
That sounds right to me.
totally agree with you jay. We need to lead by example.
funny ya dont hear it much
a wittle nibble cant hurt,boy the ribs sound sooooooooooo good
misandry; polyandry; –andry, the stem, so to speak…*g*
Garlic mashed spuds and pasta salad…! I’ve another 2 hours to fix’em…! Well, the pasta is done and cooling…
Yes. If the Dems don’t figure that out, they REALLY don’t deserve to be in office.
Teddy, thanks for introducing me to a new (for me) word.
I join in your disapproval.
misogyny; androgyny; –gyny..also the stem…
I understand why this is so distressing and big topic of conversation. A rising star in Democratic Party is taken down, or at least set back a few years.
One thing to remember though is that, to the extent that there is a case for poltiicization, it is in the Cheney/Bush Shock and Awe department. It could have been far worse -for example, serious white collar crime or organized crime -that is what they were probbably looking for. That would put a dent in the Abramoff stench coming from their quarters. But, it is just sex, apparently. So they make lemonade our of lemons and make some Shock and Awe.
We cannot be Shocked and Awed. After damage is assessed, need to move on. If it is as bad as it looks, Spitzer needs to be out of the poltical game for awhile. We have to ignore the Shock and Awe, and get on with the work of getting those cruds out of office.
You think the economy is scary now? Wait ’till McSame McCain takes the oath of office with a Congress as spineless as this one. Then it will be time to stock up on cigarettes and soap bars and and medicinals you can get your hands on as well as couple of c-weights of flour, and hunker down. Because then we will be in a real mess.
Same with foreign policy and Iraq (and Iran).
I finally got the drill down to making tender ribs—3 hours in the convection oven at 250 deg. then a quick finish on the grill. Sauce on them for the last minute of cooking or so. I get great baby backs from BJ’s.
I agree completely. I was worried a little how he would handle this past week of extra attacks, but he seems to be sticking to his guns of positivity for the most part. He’ll respond to an attack, but then quickly turn it back into why he’s the better choice. Seems to working yet again…
misandry; misogyny; mis– the prefix, so to speak. And that concludes our lesson on etymons tonight, ladies and gentlemen…
you can cook for me anytime…..the otherday my friend made the spuds with gorgonzola….it was verrrrrrrrrrrry tasty,and i was surprised
Spitzer is about to join the Gary Hart club for political has beens.
no, not the ribs, the smashed potatoes *g*
Dayem, Kiddo started the grilled ribs thing the other day….now I’m obsessed with ribs…on the grill…outside..slow…tasty…yeah.
No way this is just a Monty Python inspired skit? Jeebus… his crank or his life. I guess his crank won. Sad, sad, sad, sad. OTOH and completely unrelated in anywhere more civilized and less sex-obsessed, Spitzer would be celebrated for his swordsmanship even if it was with a hooker.
Can we please do more to bring my yucky senator David Vitter back into the spotlight? I’d love to get rid of him.
Two bits of good news:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/cq/200…..GzKUWs0NUE"> Franken Now Major Democratic Candidate for MN Senate
Republicans Have No Candidate For ARKANSAS Senate Race
A “We Already Knew The Obvious” bit:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclat…..E80Lqs0NUE ">Pentagon Admits: Absolutely No Al Qaida:Iraq Link
And just a little prognostication. Obama will win big in Mississippi tommorow despit a Gallup poll suggesting it closing to within 4 points. Uh-Uh…ain’t gonna be close! I looked at the Gallup polling methods and they made some major mistakes.
Yep, the puts it in perspective.
Don’t be shocked and awed too much. As soon as the immediate (and I mean really and only immediate) dust settles, time to move on to getting good president and better congress in next election. That is all that counts in the long run.
agreed …enuf already
I’m doing two hours wrapped in tinfoil on a cast iron grill in a 325 degree gas oven, then a 1/2 hr. slathered in sauce, however my dry rub packs flavor too…!
For some reason the repugs are calling for Spitzer to resign, but they’ve had no such call for David “Washington Madamizer” Vitter
Why can’t Spitzer simply have a talk with God, work it out with the BigGuy, and be done with it? Works for the Repubes.
Here are a couple of more miso- words:
misobasilist, misocapnist, misocynist
miso soup
Slurrrrppp…..
hehe mr made a sundae with homemade ice cream, a piece of defrosted 7up pound cake, bananas (hahahaha) and raspberry sauce looks good
It’a all in the rub, CT! Try it at 200-220 for six hours and you’re there.
I thought John McSame started the rib thing.
Cuz he prayed fer
forgetfulnessforgiveness and said Jesus loves him.There’s probably nothing to gain by treating this as a one-off —and then having the next hammer drop in a few weeks like we were all newborn. Of course, a lot depends on both what the Feds are actually prepared to do, and what the Spitzers can stand.
If an indictment comes down I might lean toward an early resignation, and would assume the same if the family situation is too fragile, on which I hope never to hear details. But if he steps down soon without any further action from the USA, it might be some decades before the political aspect of this thing pierces the mainstream. I think it’s pretty important for all Democrats, and just all of us, that it do so asap.
And the RNC’s desired candidate for SD’s Senate seat held by Johnson, said ‘No Thanks’, leaving them high and dry, too!
Well, all i know is our strategists need to be on the talking head shows saying if spitzer goes, there should go Vitter
Yeah, he probably make some good rib too…personally, I’d like the recipe..on the other hand, I’d like to know why he doesn’t consider torture, torture.
I agree and I’m not a guy.
If I had the patience…! 8-P
Cuz he prayed fer
forgetfulnessforgiveness and said Jesus loves him.Baloney. He had sex with *women* – that’s actually a big plus in his column within the R party.
Al Franken is awesome. If he gets to the Senate, every one of his speeches will be tearing the Rethugs apart.
I put mine in a smoker for an hour or so first..but without a smoker, paint with hickory liquid smoke the dry rub then low temp oven.
The best dry rub and sauce that I have used is from the Blues City Cafe in Memphis Tenn.
How about a letters-to-the-editors campaign in your state, after Spitzer resigns (if he does), pointing out the double standard and calling for Vitter’s resignation?
I’d hardly call him a rising star. He’s made no friends in the DEM party
*chewing on cocoa nib* the chocolate monster overtook me suddenly, dang
Interesting EUP’d from DeanOR on the spitzer spolier:
NY Bill to Declare Abortion a Fundamental Right for Women is Top Legislative Priority for Gov. Spitzer
I’ve already started threads on the paper’s eforums here… however, I think we need folks to keep bringing up similar repub offenders
More good news, kind of sort of -at least indicates further crack up of GOP big money and fundamentalist coalition:
Read today that Southern Baptists are putting Global Warming on their agenda of God’s good work that needs to be done. They have a proviso that solutions such as abortion in order to slow global warming cannot be tolerated.
Way I figure it, this is good news. Most Southern Baptists are not totally irreversibly crazy end-tiimers like Hagee and LeHaye. And this gives a chance for communication with them, while retaining principles and self-respect, on new common ground. As opposed to weird thrid or middle way gyrations that do nothing but signal weakness and weasaliness.
They might learn something. Like for instance, we can explain to them that lefty secularists and liberal religious types have not been proposing abortion as a solution to global warming. At least I never heard of that.
yea but jesus loves everybody.
meant to type:
“Read today that Southern Baptists are putting PREVENTING AND SLOWING Global Warming on their agenda”
Evening all-
Another secret for great ribs: after removing them from heat, roll in foil and put in a cooler until time to eat. The cooler will keep them hot, and they will continue to cook slowly…until they fall off the bone.
Can’t beat it.
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15. mycologists 16. mycobacterial
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19. Mississippians 20. misbalance
Suggestions for misocapnist:
1. miscaptions 2. musicalities
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5. miscitations 6. masochistic
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Suggestions for misocynist:
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5. misoneisms 6. Missouri City
7. Mason City 8. misorients
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Steve, you’ve sent me on a goose chase…
I have a bbq place three buildings down from me, they start smoking the ribs, etc early in the morning. By the time I come home, my entire home smells of bbq… and their rub is great.
Add that to the list of big stories that were la-la-la’d out today.
Shoyu, molasses, and, Worcestershire sauce, fills the bill too…!
Some good news from my state:
http://www.salon.com/wire/ap/a…..=D8VAR9IO0
I haven’t noticed Gallup doing state polls. Their National daily poll has Obama up 4-5% the last couple of days. TPM’s polling page seems to have the MS average in the 12% range for Obama.
http://tpmelectioncentral.talk…..lltracker/
Al Giordano, who has been the most accurate predictor of this season and in 2004, has Obama winning fairly big, but only picking up 1 delegate tomorrow because of the demographics.
http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=861
A win in the 30% range might change this and help with the popular vote at least.
We discussed record high oil and gold prices yet? Plus, the BIG downturns in the markets… economy is tanking big time1
I don’t know…she’s commenting on the “climate of the times”…a sexist media (true…it has changed in the last few years)…and the excitement of a black candidate who is actually competitive. I recall a similar effect about a decade ago with a fellow named Colin Powell, and about 25 years ago the Press and Public were all excited about a bevy of women candidates.
People being excited about someone who is groundbreaking is a two way street. Ironically Ferraro herself benefitted from it- from some people- wasn’t the goal to bring out more women to the polls by making her VP?
But this seems to be moaning about the fact that Obama “jumped to the front of the line” ahead of Clinton. She should realize that Clinton benefitted from being a) a woman in a sea of male Democratic candidates, and b) being a high profile Presidential spouse. There were far more experienced MEN in the race.
Sometimes the stars are not in conjunction…and when one has been very lucky to get into a spot, one can’t then start bemoaning a turn of bad luck.
People actually BUY dry rub?
Call in the shrinks. Spitzer is a case study in something.
Vitter, Craig, whoever Guckurt/Gannon was seeing the White House, Mark Foley, The Grobenator, etc… .
He was thinking with the little head. I think his wife is kinda attractive but I’m older than Elliott, and not into youthful types. If they haven’t hit 40, I throw ‘em back.
it all depends on the black turnout …
there’s supposed to be storms tomorrow also; that could lower the dem turn out, usually does
He is a liberal.
How would that work, anyway? To keep the population down?
and SD too ? this means they really dont have any money, was worried they simply hadn’t shown their cards to date and not enough to make two candidates feel warm and fuzzy – frickin’ dumbasses – 24/7 piracy of the last 7 years and you don’t have enough to field candidates in god’s country ?
does this mean that despite all that party discipline, no one outside of Abramoff and his gunsels knew how to raise cash ?
I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMEN…FINGER POINTING
…WE WERE DISCUSSING ENTRAPMENT
Great idea. Now I want ribs…
Cat got your tongue? ;-)
back to biddness
booosh/cheney are war criminals…McSame is happy to continue this
Why bother, Pryor is worse than lieberman.
Here are the qualifications that the Republican who was think obout running listed:
At least our pervs do it the old fashion way, I guess
me too Loo Hoo
That was the shortest reply I have ever seen. How did you do it? *g*
hey there…
I met this guy in TX cooking ribs and such…he said..smoke everything long and slow…the longer the better…24 hours best…the slower the better…when I ate some chicken he smoked, I asked him what he seasoned it with….Nothing. Most outrageous thing I ever ate…long and slow…
No..Just FU’d
hahahahahahaa
good for the economy
Who lives in the White House?
How do you make dry rub? (Never heard of it before tonight!)
It’s excruciating. I expect a pretty long, slow ride down to where even after inflation adjustment the numbers are unlike anything we’ve seen. No matter who wins, they’ll have a hard time getting the brakes on for a while.
Hi! How u doin?
thats how i cook my turkey too
Scraping the bottom of the barrel, eh?
*note to self to show mr wobbs the movie, fatal attraction*
Actually it was the last Insider Advantage Poll…but one came out today that was more in line with the other polls.
Mississippi
InsiderAdvantage 3/9/08 338 LV Clinton 37 Obama 54 Undecided 9
InsiderAdvantage 3/6/08 412 LV Clinton 40 Obama 46 Undecided 14
ARG 3/5-6/08 600 LV Clinton 34 Obama 58 Undecided 3
Rasmussen 3/5/08 816 LV Clinton 39 Obama 53 Undecided 8
it’s mostly paprika, chili powder, etc.
Humanity.
hahahahahaahahahaha
long and slow works for a lot of things really
Now, now, M’dear, that’s not nice…! ;-)
Killer….no spice necessary if you do it right.
INGREDIENTS:
1/2 cup brown sugar
1/4 cup paprika
1 tablespoon black pepper
1 tablespoon salt
1 tablespoon chili powder
1 tablespoon garlic powder
1 tablespoon onion powder
1 teaspoon cayenne
This is my rub. you have to cook it low and really slow though or the brown sugar burns… my family comes from KCMO so it’s not typical of say memphis or nc
I’ll just bring this guy up once more, since he’s been incredibly accurate in predictions (not 100%, but much better than any polling company), but I noticed today that he called Penn a guaranteed win for Clinton no matter how much campaigning Obama does there.
http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=870
I was surprised since he’s already made up a lot of ground there in polls, and he’s got over a month to make up more. I think Giordano’s statement has to do with Penn not allowing Independents to vote in the Dem primary. It’s registered Dems and that’s it. Obama gets a lot of help from Independents. I still think Obama can pull it off.
707 I have no idea about that which you are referring to!
Let ‘em stew in their own juices, eh? ;-)
ya know….i mready for a major change….and i aint no youngin
DLC = status quo
huh? he was cracking jokes about bananas and $5000 shags earlier. i just want him to understand how undesirable it would be for him to mess around on me.
Hey, Maumelle is tough town. /s
if i told you how,you would laugh,it involves butter
Hates Kings, Tobbacco smoke, and hates dogs…
Never heard of dry rub??? You must live in California. *g*
ohhhhhhh fukkkkin YUM!!!
Hey, Loo Hoo! Try it sometime…you’ll be amazed what foil and an Igloo can do for ribs. BTW, congratulations on being part of the effort to unseat Issa.
I would not rest easy if I were him.
got it.
I agree the story that the Feds found the transactions in routine SAR or CTR filings is silly. They must have been looking at QAT, and found wires from Spitzer to QAT. I’m having trouble with the idea that you could find this any other way.
Alright, Miz Bobbit! Easy now…!
I don’t either, LOL
Um …
confidentiality ?!!Never mind ! *g*exactly ;)
me too,of course i will add my Colmans dry mustard that i now have a FETISH for
I love butter. Pray tell? I hope I won’t laugh, I’m afraid to ask.
I’ve kicked up the cayenne since moving to new orleans but find most folks can’t take it unless they live on hotsauce like we do down here. That recipe is just a little spicey. You can up the cayenne if you like it a bit spicier. Or, when you add bbq at the end, make sure it has louisiana sauce added.
I’ve never made the same one twice. Just start throwing in herbs and spices. Garlic powder, onion powder, chile powder, thyme, the tiniest hint of allspice. Make it up as you go along. I’ve thrown in as much as 20 things and as little as 5. You cannot fuck it up. Just be carful with the salt.
oh no, i don’t mean i would harm him, moreso some crazy azz woman he has an affair with but then again, i’m brasilian and could well go medieval on him
a family secret,you give the bird a butter massage and throw it in a brown n bag…200 degrees for 7 hrs
Whew, at first I thought you were responding to my 271… ;-)
Sounds great! Slow means 200 degrees for hours, I guess. Then put it on the grill at the end? Add anything?
Hey Elliott, how comfy is sleeping on the couch in the Governor’s Mansion tonight? I can’t wait to see the SNL skit next saturday night and who plays Spitzer.
oh yeah? like..making love maybe?
Here is the secret to great Buffalo chicken wings…equal parts butter and Tabasco…that is it….bake the wings til done at 350….put into a bowl of the sauce…blue cheese..you know the drill…
Blow your mind…
food is better
yup, cook it like at 200 -250 for 5 -6 hours, then throw it on the grill, then add your fav sauce on the side for dipping
made em last friday YUM
Perfect!
a gimme *g*
Eliot…
Oh ohhhhh Laertes got Hamlet
food and sex…same difference…visceral pleasure…oral even…
Supposed to be the big intro tomorrow in the North County Times. I’ll link it up if it really happens. We’ll see. He’s a tough customer that Issa. Nice when you can throw millions of dollars at a campaign…
Robert Hamilton
See, it all boils down to hunger..all of it.
mr just made me cut and paste your hot wings recipe. mr: it’s on come friday
yea its all good…and so is SPRING
I hate daylight savings time … i should go to bed
oh shit they are all dropping now
I thought you were into white pepper! You change your spice fetish weekly? *g*
yea me too
And induce much pain on the other end, too… Equal parts Tabasco and butter…?
that too, i can send ya some…ya think the NSA will think its anthraxxxxxxxx…..just kiddin guys
Let’s cut the crap. Men all over the world have sex with hookers, especially in places where it is not a crime. It’s a problem between them and their confessors. It’s a problem between them and their wives. And it’s a problem between them and the public-health officials. But, it’s not a problem between them and me. Enjoy, and be careful!
hahahahaha
Another wing variation-mix one pack McCormick buffalo wing seasoning with flour for a seasoned coating, then fry over medium heat, remove and douse with buffalo wing sauce. Add Marie’s Blue Cheese …
gets you right where you want to be.
spring..yep,
…”the time of love and hope, as they say…”
–Arthur Rimbaud.
…”the time when memory is mixed with desire…”
–T.S Eliot.
thank you…sheeeeeeeeeesh
Welcome to Texas, why do you thing I always make the ice cream?
;)
G’nite folks, I’m out…
okay, i’m headin off … i gotta teach tomorrow night, but i want to come back for the ms dissection
laterz!
Mmmmmm…I wish I had some now…
Sounds good! I’ve made buffalo wings by frying them like regular chicken with flour, s&p. Then dip in a bowl of tabasco and bake until semi crispy.
Aloha, WDD!
and chicken livers toooooooooooo!!!! yum
He just requested that I make my famous pasta salad tomorrow…to eat with his ribs LMAO.
ok im out…bonne nuit!
boa noite
Nighters, sleepyheads.
Aloha, sadly and Dakini…!
chicken livers fried in butter, pepper, and Worcestershire sauce.
I’m starving for someone who just ate 2 hours ago…*g*
G’night, wobblybits and sadlyyes.
off to find that movie to show to mr. i may pop back up later
boa noite, pups
Well the PA vote is six freakin weeks away. That’s a hell of a long time. A long long long long time. PA certainly favors Clinton at the moment. But anything could happen.
Dang, you Portagees have some spunk, eh? There’s quite a contingent of ya’ll here in the Isles…! ;-)
Pour that over fresh linguine…mmmmmm
I will be glad to cast a vote in PA :)
evening all. sorry i am late, but i have been baking cookies. And more cookies.
bona noche…
Mmmmm-linguine.
Hey, TexBetsy!
hi RonD!
Well, I have molasses cookies over on the counter…
BTW, Betsy, great pics from the meetup!
thank you! bunch of us having lunch this Thursday while I am off from work.
Well, for starters, there’s baby bush and laura bush.
If anyone is in central Texas and didn’t get an invite from me for lunch, let me know.
Allright…don’t spill the libido on the keyboard. Eliot got something going,,,could get legs like Citizen Kane…it’s catching on.
oh look! more cookies
OMG. Did you guys see this?
Ann Coulter was Robert Novak’s date at the Gridiron. Pukesville.
Cute!
I was going to say that either could do a lot better.
But I’d be wrong!
Hi Loo Hoo!
newtonusr,
ET, Jr’s car still working after 200 miles.
As far as spitzer is concerned, IMHO, successful pols and wealthy guys do this stuff all the time. A lot of them can get laid outside of marriage in a heartbeat. But that can get compicated. You deal with a high class hooker, and it is all business. The chances of getting caught are, well – it appears that they’re once in a Spitzer…
I’ve been reading Dan Savage for too many years. I’m not even going to guess.
Hey, newt! That’s just a perfect dating situation. Where’s darkblack?
But… but…. teh womens – they makes us soooooo excited!
hahaha
Wow, that pixie dust spans the pond…
http://www.guardian.co.uk/poli…..tution.law
That’s good news, ET, maybe it was only a clogged coolant passageway…!
would be the first African-American Governor of NY
None of this makes me happy – I think it’s a damn tragedy – but Andy Cuomo, whose entitlement-crazed vanity bid for the nomination did so much to ensure that Carl McCall didn’t become the first African-American Governor of NY has been gunning for Spitzer since he got into office, and I have to say that it would make me really happy if he had to watch someone else take the job.
I thought buffalo sauce was just half and half butter and tabasco.
McCain, Lieberman, and Lindsay Graham are going on a taxpayer financed trip to Europe in the next few weeks to meet with various european leaders. I thought McCain was against wasteful spending by members of congress. It seems like more of a photo op, hey I look presidential type trip to me. The McCain campaign should be paying for this, not us.
This primary is getting boring as hell.
We need ta get a little sex into the thing- Cain McBush?
masaccio March 10th, 2008 at 9:19 pm 270
Um, the DOJ or the NSA may have just had a directive to scrutinize Democratic people.
The ABC item says they used the Spitzer info to find the prostitution, not vice-versa.
Listening to Fugue saying to self good night off to bed..to sleep perchance to dream….up all night (almost) oops!! switched to Pelegro negra (Peru) so exotic and so ‘high’ in the sun by the sea there were lotsa doggies wakin their humans today… are latin rythms with the big drums…now some steel drums and some happy voices joining in oh my headphones
So back to my story…how can Elliot go…Oh I am so sorry My Lord forgive I am so sorry and will never do it again Uh Oh I forgot about the abortion lege…I take it back…ahh why was I so lame buying a body for my peversion
Whoa we got a corelation between surpressed aggression expressed by Jean Paul Sarte by the authority the judge…oh my god Eliot had a mock trial with the legal student hooker in his suite and she had to submit to his authority the governor’s there is more to this male dominance he pays for misogyny…could not express it at home inappropriate arrgh what kind of population do we have here? Roles to play role of the magistrate, the general Genet is all over FISA…”The Balcony”
The seocnd bowl of choc syrup covered ice cream is kicking in
Yah we scream for ice cream… solamente up tempo marimbas, wheedoa steels hypnotic african peruvian jive rythm…doncha want to move to la musica.
Today was a good day…EOC energy proofed me humble abode…nice in tite…water conserves…energy save light…allright…goodnight NPR Santa Barbara…San Luis Obispo oooh yeah after the comlete La Traviata!!!..three acts by Verdi…famous in SF thrown over the parapet…everybodies dead so were of to …to sleep perchance to dream..baldedash and trash Tommorow we continue the vegetable garden in pots
It is my Springtime mine I tell you mine mine mine my Baby Spring oh Baby warm and nice sunny and nice dogs and cats and birds and meece and bugs and flies…what no Monarchs? What’s up with them…these fucking assholes sprayed where are our environmentalist when most needed don’t you need to be needed environmentaliste to votre plant PCL… love is lovlier the second time around much more wonderful with both feet on the ground
Yes folkie wuks universal love is superior to romantic love and god love,
so nice is way better than that Save the Plant ecosphere…stop the fucking war you
Who felt they had to destroy his career? and why? That’s all I want to know about it.
big brother at 351
cracked me up! although i don’t think it was the ’ice cream and syrup’ that gotcha vibin’.
reminded me of years ago when my sister would dance around the house doing things and talking to herself and singing, when she thought nobody was home………..heelarious………she still does it.