Yawn. Bush Junta repeatedly warned of 9/11, did nothing, tried afterwards to hide their incompetence. Nothing we didn't already know. Even at this late date we wind up reading about it from a foreign news source, the Sydney Morning Herald. (h/t Charles and Raw Story)
In this election season, being able to tell genuine grass-roots groups from corporate astroturfers is particularly important. Consumer Reports and the Center for Media and Democracy have created Full Frontal Scrutiny, dedicated to separating the grass-roots wheat from the astroturf chaff. (h/t Unbossed.)
Even as Wall Street's investment banks have declared a de facto moratorium on financing new coal-fired power plant construction and are investing in natural gas and renewable energy, Minnesota's Chamber of Commerce realized that a) it's hard to transport goods and services over crumbling roads and bridges, and b) a modest rise in the gas tax will reap major rewards.
As dday and DWT point out, Barack Obama has more coattails in Dennis Hastert's congressional district than does rib-serving media favorite John McCain. Bodes well for November, no matter who's the Democratic nominee. Howie also points out that the campaign that Republican Jim Oberweis ran was a textbook bash-the-immigrants campaign -- and couldn't beat Democratic candidate Bill Foster. (Tom DeLay picked Hastert to be his puppet Speaker in part because he was in one of the safest Republican districts around. Now Tom DeLay's no longer in Congress, and a Democrat's sitting in his seat.)
It's not surprising that Bush and the GOP/Media Complex love Colombia's murderous drug-running right-wing dictator Alvaro Uribe, the last of the Latin American "Chicago Boys" disaster capitalists. What's sad is that Obama and Clinton are echoing Bush on this issue.
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Astonishing, thanks Phoenix Woman…
hi PW!
Eight American soldiers died in Iraq today, the deadliest day in 2008.
Finally, no 404!
meow
“disaster capitalists”
aren’t they in charge here too? trickle down stagflation…
What a great idea, and what a great pair of outfits have combined to put it into practice! I must say, though, that after the news from New York today, the name of this new website is a bit eyecatching, to say the least.
*gasp* Will Pawlenty actually raise taxes…? *g*
Oh gawd no! He’ll merely not renew those huge tax cuts for the the middle and below-middle classes. :)
AP - Democrats Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton on Monday joined Republican presidential candidate John McCain and a small band of GOP senators in making a run this week against the billions of dollars in home-state pet projects Congress funds each year.
Has anybody heard what Spitzer allegedly got that he thought was worth $4300?
a used Toyota pickup?
I’d say “more than he bargained for.”
$4300…
Front page news stories?
Pawlenty’s budget proposes cutting higher education by 5% and offers a 1/8 of 1 cent sales tax reduction…. Next year he would cut higher education by 10%.
One final posturing gesture before McCain makes his selection, and to hell with the State of Minnesota…
A Democratic Tsunami is a’coming…! Under-reported as always, Wyoming had a Dem caucus of little over 700 show up last cycle, this cycle, over 9,000 showed up… A similar story here in Hawaii…! Hello…? *g*
We could get out of Iraq and spend those multi-billions per month in savings of infra structure, among other things. Oh silly me. That doesn’t make a bit of sense. Does it?
heretic! traitor!
Hello, everyone! Just catching up with the news here.
Fascinating, that the very banks Eliot Spitzer pissed off would be monitoring his financial transactions so closely, eh? Normally, $5K from a man of his wealth, in a town like DC where $10K dinners are not uncommon, would go unnoticed.
I think my party will beat McCain this November. What troubles me is… then what?
A-yep.
But then we’d have to fight them over here…
Wouldn’t we?
I am thinking that Spitzer should resign. I want members of my party to practice what they preach.
OT: I’m looking to buy some swag (magnets, bumper stickers, signs) for a certain Presidential candidate whose website says there is a 2 - 3 week delay for merchandise. I’d rather not wait that long. Can anyone recommend other websites?
oh my Phoenix Woman, that Full Frontal Scrutiny is great news - and there already exposin’ ‘em - and with Consumer Reports involvement they may actually get some Corp Media coverage - wow
Too many blue dogs and DLC’ers?
Fine with me. Let Craig and Vitter go first.
I dislike the DLC and their associates intensly.
Heh, I was just saying that downstairs, PW! *g*
Who would use a (by-definition illegal) prostitution ring to “launder” money?
Bullshit.
I want them gone too.
The Spitzer story may have driven the Foster victory in Hastert’s old district off the front pages, but the RCCC hasn’t forgotten it. They are deathly afraid of it being contagious.
I am thinking that Spitzer should resign.
Absolutely. Both the Republicans and the press will use this to say that the two parties are the same. If he doesn’t resign, they’ll be saying that all the way to November. He’s got to go.
I’d rather have sex than kill someone.
The standards for the morality of the Democratic Party should not be determined by reference or comparison with that of the Republican party.
Exactly, how would it clean it…?
And (referencing the ABC story) why would money transfers out of Spitzer’s bank account indicate that he was hiding bribes? Unless the feds were thinking he was bribing people?
This thing stinks, but I’m sure our DoJ is upright and not politically motivated.
Heh, it’s already pandemic…! Hard to put pandora back in the box…! 8-)
The deal for me is ‘hypocrisy’. As far as I’m concerned prostitution should be legalized.
I worked in risk management in a nationally chartered credit card bank for a number of years, till 2005. After 9/11 the feds ramped up expectations under FINCEN regulations regarding the reporting of “SARs” (Suspicious Activity Reports). Eventually they provided total indemnity for filing erroneous or outright false SARs — so banks would cooperate more. It got to be an off-the-record quota thing; if you weren’t filing enough SARs, you weren’t helping out in the War on Terrah.
Brilliant.
Evenin’ PW. Have just been watching “Science of Interrogation” on the National Geographic Channel. Harsh interrogation techniques and how they may lead to false confessions compared to well structured interrogations of constructing the baseline, inviting the narrative and then challenging the deceptions, based on actual cases.
Should be required viewing for all the lizard brains…especially the Current Occupant.
Dang, sorry, Father, but my quote of your comment didn’t register…
I am in no way making excuses for banks - and would be the least surprised to find political motivations in all this - but
per my comment downstairs - Patriot Act created an atmosphere wherein changes were made to anti money laundering provisions in the Banking Secrecy Act - and anyone who wants to google and read all those damn pdf’s have at it - the gist is banks are now on the hook in a big way wrt to reporting
what they can’t get through NSA, they can get from regulated ‘actors’ who face penalties up to including seizure
I see BobbyG is playing the same song:)
I’m sure Mr. LS will be glad to hear this ! *g*
tho i personally think prostitution, as a victimless crime, is the least important human interaction that needs legal interference, the fact is it is against the law on the books, and spitzer himself made a point of prosectuting prostitutes.
he should resign.
Did I ever mention that I miss the ‘Quote this Comment’ feature or the edit function…? *g*
Spitzer’s replacement would be historic
If he resigns, Paterson would be 3rd black governor since Reconstruction
Didn’t the Current Occupant declare he likes Romney for Veep?
Read it and “veep” Pawlenty.
Ya gotta love the mentality: We want data! No matter if the fucking stuff is utterly wrong and useless, we want data.
More “lost in the NY news blizzard” stuff, this time from DC’s “The Hill“:
It’s hard for a political party to win a race if they can’t even get someone to fill their slot on the ballot.
Wake up America! The Chicago Boys have been running the show in this country since that bastard Reagan took office. Anyone who doesn’t get that, needs to pull their head out…
The fact that Obama and Clinton are echoing the rhetoric shouldn’t come as a surprise either, as one can’t function in our economic climate without being party to the scheme.
Sheesh! This isn’t rocket science, it’s economic suicide.
That lede from the AP is a killer for Hillary and Barack. Its weak me-tooism. It sounds like McCrazy and the Rethugs are leading the charge while Hills and Obama ride along and say me too! The MSM is gonna keep doing this. H & B better get creative - sooner rather than later. Perhaps one of them could spearhead a campaign to legalize prostitution nationwide.
Something about the Spitzer thing leads to my idea that, for some reason, he thought that he would never be caught. How was he led to believe that? Who leaked his name?
He’s not that stupid…
I guess he was.
Hi all,
Just wondering if anyone else thinks this Spitzer story has conveniently broken on a day when the big story could have been the WSJ’s bombshell story about the details of the warrantless wiretaps by BushCo.?
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpoi.....ad_292.php
It is the “New American” Justice Dept. that’s prosecuting Spitzer, after all.
Spitzer prosecuted prostitutes?
I looked at that and said “Did I say that?”
*g*
If Alan Keyes isn’t busy …
In some areas of Nevada for example, prostitution is considered non-immoral.
Oh…nooooooo!!! *g*
The previous Mr. LS….bad news….
Total Information Awareness lives!
Heh, you made a funnee…! 8-P
Or, did Spitzer prostitute prosecuters?
Essentially Scooter Libby gets off. But some of us are outraged about Spitzer. I don’t get it.
Seven Deadly Sins, One Convenient Location.
(Actual I-15 billboard)
I thought #44 was even funnier … either that or I’ve had
too muchjust enuff Chianti tonight … *g*ya know Bobby I had an ah hah moment ’bout half way through all those pdf’s - they really covered everything with GWOT (and yet so incompetent at execution) but was wondering what else like Banking Secrecy Act or FINCEN is sitting out there as yet another political tool
- some kid at WaPo published a book approx 2 years ago about our all but gone privacy - believe he had a section devoted to Patriot Act and all it’s ugly little progeny - will have to go look it up
Don’t let Bowers or The GOS hear you talkin’ like that.
You’ll be targeted as a troll or worse….
Someone with functioning brain.
O/t -
If the pup who was raving about the Pete Seeger special on PBS is around, I’ve caught parts of reruns several times now and it’s every bit as wonderful as you billed it! Thank you!!!
Does anyone really believe that Cheney, Rove, Rice and Bush will ever be prosecuted or forced to resign for war crimes? Perhaps we should inquire of our Speaker if Spitzer is off the table.
What have you got on that Skippy? The majority of reporting I’ve seen indicates that Spitzer went after the money boys on Wall Street - not the streetwalkers. If Spitzer pulled sanctimonious hypocrisy, then let him go down in flames (metaphorically, of course). I’ll stand by him if he ain’t a stinkin’ hypocrite. (Maybe he and his wife had a personal arrangement.)
Yeah, me too
Good point!
Guess we know what the FISA hubbub is really all about. I kin see George and Karl sitting in front of the fire at the WH chuckling as they listen.
That does it. I’m moving to Nevada.
Yeah, true! Any nibbles yet? I’m looking at a possible FDL meetup over Memorial weekend…! *g*
We expected BushCo Industries to screw the nation and give Libby a pass. We don’t like it, but we were not surprised.
Spitzer, OTOH, disappoints us mightily, if for no other reason than he gives the GOP a huge political gift right when they need something to take the focus off of their flailing presumptive nominee and the current occupant of the White House.
Sure. They demonized Plame and Wilson in the MSM - let the liar labels stand. Rove called Wilson a liar just the other day at the ($40K) college talk in Iowa.
You’ll be one of the first to know, buddy … working on several possibilities …
I think Total Information Awareness would have been the big story today if this one hadn’t “conveniently” broken today.
7 Deadly Sins - lost in the Spitzerpalooza - Vatican added 7 more deadly (mortal not venial) sins today incl . . .wait for it Pedophilia
link
I should have recorded it.
In Hawaii?
News: The economy is failing; now its Spitzer’s fault.
No, no, no..W…I lay it at your feet, Preszident Decidertapdancingsingingdeciderboy…
At your feet!!
From the tail end of an AP story in the Chicago Tribune:
It’s hard for a political party to win a race if they can’t even get someone to fill their slot on the ballot.
Oh - there’s another one to file under “things I feel just awful about”. *g*
By design.
True, but, give credit to the Iowans for roundly booing him for it, and, one intrepid soul asked if they could have the $40 G’s back after the speech…! Bwhahaha…!
Meanwhile, there may be some fallout in the presidential race if Spitzer resigns — he may no longer be allowed to remain a superdelegate, and he was one of Hillary’s top superdelegates.
Oh, yes. The Iowans were having none of Rove’s bull.
Yes’m! Here in Hilo!
You’ve made a lot of comments, and you haven’t heard the story?
I heard the story on NPR on my way home form work, they probably have it on their website if you want to know what the story is about.
I can agree that that is one way of looking at the situation.
Just got an email from Harry Reid saying Bush supports terror. Well, no shit.
That’s it for me. Spitzer’s a stinking hypocrite in the same company with Larry Supertuber Craig and Diaper Dave Vitter.
via TPM
Two former officials familiar with the data-sifting efforts said they work by starting with some sort of lead, like a phone number or Internet address. In partnership with the FBI, the systems then can track all domestic and foreign transactions of people associated with that item — and then the people who associated with them, and so on, casting a gradually wider net. An intelligence official described more of a rapid-response effect: If a person suspected of terrorist connections is believed to be in a U.S. city — for instance, Detroit, a community with a high concentration of Muslim Americans — the government’s spy systems may be directed to collect and analyze all electronic communications into and out of the city.
The haul can include records of phone calls, email headers and destinations, data on financial transactions and records of Internet browsing. The system also would collect information about other people, including those in the U.S., who communicated with people in Detroit.
Too bad. I’d have invited you to a BBQ if you were going to be back East. Doing a family thing, but waifs, strays, friends, enemies, donator-targets also invited. Will do a FDL-specific BBQ in May or June too.
Just wondering if anyone else thinks this Spitzer story has conveniently broken on a day when the big story could have been the WSJ’s bombshell story about the details of the warrantless wiretaps by BushCo.?
Ya know - I used to think along those lines. But since damn near *every* day has some bombshell (color me and the rest of the country ’shell-shocked’) with regard to the Bush administration, I’m thinking that if timing were everything, *nothing* would ever get reported.
If didn’t love my wife, I’d maybe spend all my money in the house of the rising sun.
Thanks for the round-up. though no schadenfreude here on my end. What with more worrsome economic news and the Spitzer scandal, it is a depressing dat, and as usual the Bush/Cheney news is depressing.
I am not sure the Spitzer case is like Siegelman or Davis, as some commenters have said. Unlike Siegelman, it looks like Spitzer did do something. And Davis had been digging his own political grave with mushy conservative lite fake centrism for years before the recall and Arnold came along.
It is no surprise that they are after Democratic officials. In California, hearing some off-the-wall news flash out of nowhere (and then dropped back into nowhere) that some Democratic state official is under investigation is like listening to traffic reports.
More likely, this was a standard fishing exhibition, suddenly rushed for big announcement to cover up some pretty explosive news regarding Cheney/Bush incompetence. In addition to more evidence of pre-9/11 malfeasance, there is the story about the Hama/Fatah coup and civil war plotting by Cheney/Bush that blew up in their faces. It blew up in their faces so bad that a Hamas official was quoted as saying he thinks Bush is secretly on his side.
And they need a counterbalance for Siegelman, after that case got splashed all over the airwaves.
My second though after this is that those CA Democrats must be really clean, since nothing ever comes of those investigations. Third thought is to see what story is political damage done before calling for Spitzer to step down. Depends on the evidence, though from his statement, it sounds like he did do something. But then, so did Craig and Vitter.
Worst thing to do is get all whiney and defensive. As GOP has shown in politics having a pair of brass ones has its advantages. We will see whether Spitzer did stuff so bad he has to step down, if so that is too bad. Can’t be distracted from the main goal, which is to discredit and end current GOP political machine.
Scott Horton has some interesting facts regarding the Bush Junta’s targeting of Eliot Spitzer:
Part of? What was his role? He was AG of NYS. Do you think that they don’t have a vice squad?
The day there *isn’t* a story about BushCo corruption and ineptitude is the day I wonder “What did we miss?”
Heh, the biggest BBQ pit in the world will be the featured attraction, Madame Pele’s flow…! *g*
Exactly. Why is that so hard to get?
That’s it for me. Spitzer’s a stinking hypocrite in the same company with Larry Supertuber Craig and Diaper Dave Vitter.
Yup. And it’s time for the Democratic party to separate itself from the acceptance of such law-breaking.
(disclaimer - prostitution shouldn’t be illegal, but at the moment, it still is)
Sounds great, but there are “obligations.”
Makes sense.
Before he was AG, he was in the DA’s office in Manhattan.
Too much information.
Even if the girls couldn’t do math?