Yawn. Bush Junta repeatedly warned of 9/11, did nothing, tried afterwards to hide their incompetence. Nothing we didn’t already know. Even at this late date we wind up reading about it from a foreign news source, the Sydney Morning Herald. (h/t Charles and Raw Story)
In this election season, being able to tell genuine grass-roots groups from corporate astroturfers is particularly important. Consumer Reports and the Center for Media and Democracy have created Full Frontal Scrutiny, dedicated to separating the grass-roots wheat from the astroturf chaff. (h/t Unbossed.)
Even as Wall Street’s investment banks have declared a de facto moratorium on financing new coal-fired power plant construction and are investing in natural gas and renewable energy, Minnesota’s Chamber of Commerce realized that a) it’s hard to transport goods and services over crumbling roads and bridges, and b) a modest rise in the gas tax will reap major rewards.
As dday and DWT point out, Barack Obama has more coattails in Dennis Hastert’s congressional district than does rib-serving media favorite John McCain. Bodes well for November, no matter who’s the Democratic nominee. Howie also points out that the campaign that Republican Jim Oberweis ran was a textbook bash-the-immigrants campaign — and couldn’t beat Democratic candidate Bill Foster. (Tom DeLay picked Hastert to be his puppet Speaker in part because he was in one of the safest Republican districts around. Now Tom DeLay’s no longer in Congress, and a Democrat’s sitting in his seat.)
It’s not surprising that Bush and the GOP/Media Complex love Colombia’s murderous drug-running right-wing dictator Alvaro Uribe, the last of the Latin American "Chicago Boys" disaster capitalists. What’s sad is that Obama and Clinton are echoing Bush on this issue.



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Astonishing, thanks Phoenix Woman…
hi PW!
Eight American soldiers died in Iraq today, the deadliest day in 2008.
Finally, no 404!
meow
“disaster capitalists”
aren’t they in charge here too? trickle down stagflation…
What a great idea, and what a great pair of outfits have combined to put it into practice! I must say, though, that after the news from New York today, the name of this new website is a bit eyecatching, to say the least.
*gasp* Will Pawlenty actually raise taxes…? *g*
Oh gawd no! He’ll merely not renew those huge tax cuts for the the middle and below-middle classes. :)
AP – Democrats Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton on Monday joined Republican presidential candidate John McCain and a small band of GOP senators in making a run this week against the billions of dollars in home-state pet projects Congress funds each year.
Has anybody heard what Spitzer allegedly got that he thought was worth $4300?
a used Toyota pickup?
I’d say “more than he bargained for.”
$4300…
Front page news stories?
Pawlenty’s budget proposes cutting higher education by 5% and offers a 1/8 of 1 cent sales tax reduction…. Next year he would cut higher education by 10%.
One final posturing gesture before McCain makes his selection, and to hell with the State of Minnesota…
A Democratic Tsunami is a’coming…! Under-reported as always, Wyoming had a Dem caucus of little over 700 show up last cycle, this cycle, over 9,000 showed up… A similar story here in Hawaii…! Hello…? *g*
We could get out of Iraq and spend those multi-billions per month in savings of infra structure, among other things. Oh silly me. That doesn’t make a bit of sense. Does it?
heretic! traitor!
Hello, everyone! Just catching up with the news here.
Fascinating, that the very banks Eliot Spitzer pissed off would be monitoring his financial transactions so closely, eh? Normally, $5K from a man of his wealth, in a town like DC where $10K dinners are not uncommon, would go unnoticed.
I think my party will beat McCain this November. What troubles me is… then what?
A-yep.
But then we’d have to fight them over here…
Wouldn’t we?
I am thinking that Spitzer should resign. I want members of my party to practice what they preach.
OT: I’m looking to buy some swag (magnets, bumper stickers, signs) for a certain Presidential candidate whose website says there is a 2 – 3 week delay for merchandise. I’d rather not wait that long. Can anyone recommend other websites?
oh my Phoenix Woman, that Full Frontal Scrutiny is great news – and there already exposin’ ‘em – and with Consumer Reports involvement they may actually get some Corp Media coverage – wow
Too many blue dogs and DLC’ers?
Fine with me. Let Craig and Vitter go first.
I dislike the DLC and their associates intensly.
Heh, I was just saying that downstairs, PW! *g*
Who would use a (by-definition illegal) prostitution ring to “launder” money?
Bullshit.
I want them gone too.
The Spitzer story may have driven the Foster victory in Hastert’s old district off the front pages, but the RCCC hasn’t forgotten it. They are deathly afraid of it being contagious.
I am thinking that Spitzer should resign.
Absolutely. Both the Republicans and the press will use this to say that the two parties are the same. If he doesn’t resign, they’ll be saying that all the way to November. He’s got to go.
I’d rather have sex than kill someone.
The standards for the morality of the Democratic Party should not be determined by reference or comparison with that of the Republican party.
Exactly, how would it clean it…?
And (referencing the ABC story) why would money transfers out of Spitzer’s bank account indicate that he was hiding bribes? Unless the feds were thinking he was bribing people?
This thing stinks, but I’m sure our DoJ is upright and not politically motivated.
Heh, it’s already pandemic…! Hard to put pandora back in the box…! 8-)
The deal for me is ‘hypocrisy’. As far as I’m concerned prostitution should be legalized.
I worked in risk management in a nationally chartered credit card bank for a number of years, till 2005. After 9/11 the feds ramped up expectations under FINCEN regulations regarding the reporting of “SARs” (Suspicious Activity Reports). Eventually they provided total indemnity for filing erroneous or outright false SARs — so banks would cooperate more. It got to be an off-the-record quota thing; if you weren’t filing enough SARs, you weren’t helping out in the War on Terrah.
Brilliant.
Evenin’ PW. Have just been watching “Science of Interrogation” on the National Geographic Channel. Harsh interrogation techniques and how they may lead to false confessions compared to well structured interrogations of constructing the baseline, inviting the narrative and then challenging the deceptions, based on actual cases.
Should be required viewing for all the lizard brains…especially the Current Occupant.
Dang, sorry, Father, but my quote of your comment didn’t register…
I am in no way making excuses for banks – and would be the least surprised to find political motivations in all this – but
per my comment downstairs – Patriot Act created an atmosphere wherein changes were made to anti money laundering provisions in the Banking Secrecy Act – and anyone who wants to google and read all those damn pdf’s have at it – the gist is banks are now on the hook in a big way wrt to reporting
what they can’t get through NSA, they can get from regulated ‘actors’ who face penalties up to including seizure
I see BobbyG is playing the same song:)
I’m sure Mr. LS will be glad to hear this ! *g*
tho i personally think prostitution, as a victimless crime, is the least important human interaction that needs legal interference, the fact is it is against the law on the books, and spitzer himself made a point of prosectuting prostitutes.
he should resign.
Did I ever mention that I miss the ‘Quote this Comment’ feature or the edit function…? *g*
Spitzer’s replacement would be historic
If he resigns, Paterson would be 3rd black governor since Reconstruction
Didn’t the Current Occupant declare he likes Romney for Veep?
Read it and “veep” Pawlenty.
Ya gotta love the mentality: We want data! No matter if the fucking stuff is utterly wrong and useless, we want data.
More “lost in the NY news blizzard” stuff, this time from DC’s “The Hill“:
It’s hard for a political party to win a race if they can’t even get someone to fill their slot on the ballot.
Wake up America! The Chicago Boys have been running the show in this country since that bastard Reagan took office. Anyone who doesn’t get that, needs to pull their head out…
The fact that Obama and Clinton are echoing the rhetoric shouldn’t come as a surprise either, as one can’t function in our economic climate without being party to the scheme.
Sheesh! This isn’t rocket science, it’s economic suicide.
That lede from the AP is a killer for Hillary and Barack. Its weak me-tooism. It sounds like McCrazy and the Rethugs are leading the charge while Hills and Obama ride along and say me too! The MSM is gonna keep doing this. H & B better get creative – sooner rather than later. Perhaps one of them could spearhead a campaign to legalize prostitution nationwide.
Something about the Spitzer thing leads to my idea that, for some reason, he thought that he would never be caught. How was he led to believe that? Who leaked his name?
He’s not that stupid…
I guess he was.
Hi all,
Just wondering if anyone else thinks this Spitzer story has conveniently broken on a day when the big story could have been the WSJ’s bombshell story about the details of the warrantless wiretaps by BushCo.?
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpoi…..ad_292.php
It is the “New American” Justice Dept. that’s prosecuting Spitzer, after all.
Spitzer prosecuted prostitutes?
I looked at that and said “Did I say that?”
*g*
If Alan Keyes isn’t busy …
In some areas of Nevada for example, prostitution is considered non-immoral.
Oh…nooooooo!!! *g*
The previous Mr. LS….bad news….
Total Information Awareness lives!
Heh, you made a funnee…! 8-P
Or, did Spitzer prostitute prosecuters?
Essentially Scooter Libby gets off. But some of us are outraged about Spitzer. I don’t get it.
Seven Deadly Sins, One Convenient Location.
(Actual I-15 billboard)
I thought #44 was even funnier … either that or I’ve had
too muchjust enuff Chianti tonight … *g*ya know Bobby I had an ah hah moment ’bout half way through all those pdf’s – they really covered everything with GWOT (and yet so incompetent at execution) but was wondering what else like Banking Secrecy Act or FINCEN is sitting out there as yet another political tool
- some kid at WaPo published a book approx 2 years ago about our all but gone privacy – believe he had a section devoted to Patriot Act and all it’s ugly little progeny – will have to go look it up
Don’t let Bowers or The GOS hear you talkin’ like that.
You’ll be targeted as a troll or worse….
Someone with functioning brain.
O/t -
If the pup who was raving about the Pete Seeger special on PBS is around, I’ve caught parts of reruns several times now and it’s every bit as wonderful as you billed it! Thank you!!!
Does anyone really believe that Cheney, Rove, Rice and Bush will ever be prosecuted or forced to resign for war crimes? Perhaps we should inquire of our Speaker if Spitzer is off the table.
What have you got on that Skippy? The majority of reporting I’ve seen indicates that Spitzer went after the money boys on Wall Street – not the streetwalkers. If Spitzer pulled sanctimonious hypocrisy, then let him go down in flames (metaphorically, of course). I’ll stand by him if he ain’t a stinkin’ hypocrite. (Maybe he and his wife had a personal arrangement.)
Yeah, me too
Good point!
Guess we know what the FISA hubbub is really all about. I kin see George and Karl sitting in front of the fire at the WH chuckling as they listen.
That does it. I’m moving to Nevada.
Yeah, true! Any nibbles yet? I’m looking at a possible FDL meetup over Memorial weekend…! *g*
We expected BushCo Industries to screw the nation and give Libby a pass. We don’t like it, but we were not surprised.
Spitzer, OTOH, disappoints us mightily, if for no other reason than he gives the GOP a huge political gift right when they need something to take the focus off of their flailing presumptive nominee and the current occupant of the White House.
Sure. They demonized Plame and Wilson in the MSM – let the liar labels stand. Rove called Wilson a liar just the other day at the ($40K) college talk in Iowa.
You’ll be one of the first to know, buddy … working on several possibilities …
I think Total Information Awareness would have been the big story today if this one hadn’t “conveniently” broken today.
7 Deadly Sins – lost in the Spitzerpalooza – Vatican added 7 more deadly (mortal not venial) sins today incl . . .wait for it Pedophilia
link
I should have recorded it.
In Hawaii?
News: The economy is failing; now its Spitzer’s fault.
No, no, no..W…I lay it at your feet, Preszident Decidertapdancingsingingdeciderboy…
At your feet!!
From the tail end of an AP story in the Chicago Tribune:
It’s hard for a political party to win a race if they can’t even get someone to fill their slot on the ballot.
Oh – there’s another one to file under “things I feel just awful about”. *g*
By design.
True, but, give credit to the Iowans for roundly booing him for it, and, one intrepid soul asked if they could have the $40 G’s back after the speech…! Bwhahaha…!
Meanwhile, there may be some fallout in the presidential race if Spitzer resigns — he may no longer be allowed to remain a superdelegate, and he was one of Hillary’s top superdelegates.
Oh, yes. The Iowans were having none of Rove’s bull.
Yes’m! Here in Hilo!
You’ve made a lot of comments, and you haven’t heard the story?
I heard the story on NPR on my way home form work, they probably have it on their website if you want to know what the story is about.
I can agree that that is one way of looking at the situation.
Just got an email from Harry Reid saying Bush supports terror. Well, no shit.
That’s it for me. Spitzer’s a stinking hypocrite in the same company with Larry Supertuber Craig and Diaper Dave Vitter.
via TPM
Two former officials familiar with the data-sifting efforts said they work by starting with some sort of lead, like a phone number or Internet address. In partnership with the FBI, the systems then can track all domestic and foreign transactions of people associated with that item — and then the people who associated with them, and so on, casting a gradually wider net. An intelligence official described more of a rapid-response effect: If a person suspected of terrorist connections is believed to be in a U.S. city — for instance, Detroit, a community with a high concentration of Muslim Americans — the government’s spy systems may be directed to collect and analyze all electronic communications into and out of the city.
The haul can include records of phone calls, email headers and destinations, data on financial transactions and records of Internet browsing. The system also would collect information about other people, including those in the U.S., who communicated with people in Detroit.
Too bad. I’d have invited you to a BBQ if you were going to be back East. Doing a family thing, but waifs, strays, friends, enemies, donator-targets also invited. Will do a FDL-specific BBQ in May or June too.
Just wondering if anyone else thinks this Spitzer story has conveniently broken on a day when the big story could have been the WSJ’s bombshell story about the details of the warrantless wiretaps by BushCo.?
Ya know – I used to think along those lines. But since damn near *every* day has some bombshell (color me and the rest of the country ’shell-shocked’) with regard to the Bush administration, I’m thinking that if timing were everything, *nothing* would ever get reported.
If didn’t love my wife, I’d maybe spend all my money in the house of the rising sun.
Thanks for the round-up. though no schadenfreude here on my end. What with more worrsome economic news and the Spitzer scandal, it is a depressing dat, and as usual the Bush/Cheney news is depressing.
I am not sure the Spitzer case is like Siegelman or Davis, as some commenters have said. Unlike Siegelman, it looks like Spitzer did do something. And Davis had been digging his own political grave with mushy conservative lite fake centrism for years before the recall and Arnold came along.
It is no surprise that they are after Democratic officials. In California, hearing some off-the-wall news flash out of nowhere (and then dropped back into nowhere) that some Democratic state official is under investigation is like listening to traffic reports.
More likely, this was a standard fishing exhibition, suddenly rushed for big announcement to cover up some pretty explosive news regarding Cheney/Bush incompetence. In addition to more evidence of pre-9/11 malfeasance, there is the story about the Hama/Fatah coup and civil war plotting by Cheney/Bush that blew up in their faces. It blew up in their faces so bad that a Hamas official was quoted as saying he thinks Bush is secretly on his side.
And they need a counterbalance for Siegelman, after that case got splashed all over the airwaves.
My second though after this is that those CA Democrats must be really clean, since nothing ever comes of those investigations. Third thought is to see what story is political damage done before calling for Spitzer to step down. Depends on the evidence, though from his statement, it sounds like he did do something. But then, so did Craig and Vitter.
Worst thing to do is get all whiney and defensive. As GOP has shown in politics having a pair of brass ones has its advantages. We will see whether Spitzer did stuff so bad he has to step down, if so that is too bad. Can’t be distracted from the main goal, which is to discredit and end current GOP political machine.
Scott Horton has some interesting facts regarding the Bush Junta’s targeting of Eliot Spitzer:
Part of? What was his role? He was AG of NYS. Do you think that they don’t have a vice squad?
The day there *isn’t* a story about BushCo corruption and ineptitude is the day I wonder “What did we miss?”
Heh, the biggest BBQ pit in the world will be the featured attraction, Madame Pele’s flow…! *g*
Exactly. Why is that so hard to get?
That’s it for me. Spitzer’s a stinking hypocrite in the same company with Larry Supertuber Craig and Diaper Dave Vitter.
Yup. And it’s time for the Democratic party to separate itself from the acceptance of such law-breaking.
(disclaimer – prostitution shouldn’t be illegal, but at the moment, it still is)
Sounds great, but there are “obligations.”
Makes sense.
Before he was AG, he was in the DA’s office in Manhattan.
Too much information.
Even if the girls couldn’t do math?
A quote from the TPM article linked by Tross:
“Here’s the way the whole thing works, according to Gorman: into the NSA’s massive database goes data collected by the Justice Department, Department of Homeland Security, and the Department of Treasury. This information includes data about email (recipient and sender address, subject, time sent), internet searches (sites visited and searches conducted), phone calls (incoming and outgoing numbers, length of call, location), financial information (wire transfers, credit-card use, information about bank accounts), and information from the DHS about airline passengers.”
The article says the NSA has incorporated many of the features of the discredited operation Total Information Awareness.
This may or may not have anything to do with Elliot Spitzer, but it is certainly a cause for concern.
thanks for that link to Scott Horton’s analysis. When Scott Horton speaks, I listen. or maybe I should say when he writes, I read.
If there is something fishy about this, then certainly pursuing more evidence of politicized DOJ would not be whining.
It is a travesty, through and through…! Watch the Repugs raise a squall when the Dem Prez tries to purge the DoJ…! 8-(
Whoa. I’m musta picked up the wrong hymnal coming in here tonight.
What does that mean?
Is this Spitzer thing not so incredibly obvious? People cheat, have sex, whatever…but they don’t go from “client #WTF to Eliot Spitzer” without some kind of link or catalyst…just doesn’t happen.
Really…we aren’t that stupid are we? Are we?
I’d like to see them argue with a Constitutional Law Professor …
When this is over and done with and Eliot is gone, you will learn that this was a political witch hunt much the way it was for Siegelman and they are sending a message that virtually anyone can be taken down.
I suspect that everyone up there has skeletons in their closet. And when you look hard you find them.
With the telcoms help the closet doors have been turned to glass.
Well, maybe by Spitzer going down in flames, we can illustrate to the public what we’ve been talking about re these TIA etc
Not if he went to Nevada. I know in Reno, one must go outside Reno city limits for legal services. Hence the location of the former Mustang Ranch. I’m guessing that Vegas has the same deal, though I wonder why so many call girls hand out cards on the strip. I guess thay can get it on in the hotels (illegally) without getting hassled.
I wonder if every politician, since winning office, were removed for doing tawdry and illegal things we could get a quorum? One thing is for sure. We wouldn’t have a President George W. Bush.
Well, if you are married, you’ve made a commitment. You stick to your commitment.
OT: Ewwwwwwwwwwwww
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..90839.html
What Scott has is a general picture of BushCo behavior, not an explicit set of facts that says Spitzer was set up or targeted improperly. As Horton says himself at the end of your quote: “This has nothing to do with Spitzer’s guilt or innocence. But it has everything to do with the fading integrity of the Public Integrity Section.”
We knew before this all hit the press that the integrity of the DOJ was in the tank. That’s old news, and today’s story about Spitzer doesn’t change that. It just puts the DOJ back in the news again.
What happens in Vagas stays in Vagas.
Oh… I’m confident I could teach them math. As long as they and I stay focused. Of course. ;0)
I’d agree in general, but we have seen this administration use the news to their advantage countless times. Remember the terror alert warnings that were all timed appropriately?
If there is something fishy about this, then certainly pursuing more evidence of politicized DOJ would not be whining.
Yes – it would. One way or another, the guy got busted. The fact that Republicans are not similarly being busted is of no moment, at the moment (heh). He got caught breaking a law and being a hypocrite, things that we all roundly despise about the Republican party.
No
cryingwhining in politics – just win the next damned election and get things back on track.In the meantime, for the good of the party, Spitzer’s gotta go.
Absolutely. Interestingly, there hasn’t been a peep from either Larry Flynt or the DC madame re: the high profile republican clients.
Oops! I was responding to JayT at 96.
Pork country style ribs are my entree, for tonite, I shall be back…
Well, of course, and Spring Happening notwithstanding, I didn’t understand your comment to Kiddo…if he wasn’t in love, which may or may not have to do with being married. Why would anyone spend all of their money at the House?
Since I am far from an expert on the Bible, can someone advise me if Jesus ever condemned Mary Magdalene?
That’s perfect.
But, if they were focused on you teaching them math, you might be wasting your $$$.
I’m grateful to this universe that you have your lovely lahoma. And, that you take your auntie to church.
I’m grateful for you.
Sounds good.
ok, I’ll concede that the terror alerts were, let’s say, suspiciously timed. But I stick with my original point that if basic news stories had to be held until some unpredictable day when the Bush administration *didn’t* do something outrageous, there would no longer *be* any news.
I’m not an expert, but I’ve studied, and I never heard that he condemned here…quite the opposite. But Spitzer never met Mary.
I guess that is his perspective.
He did not.
“Public Integrity Section at the Department of Justice”
Isn’t that the unit that was assigned to cover up or whitewash USAttorneyGate?
Because they don’t bust johns.
Ahem.
Various stories about less-than-reputable women have gotten conflated onto Mary Magdalene.
Perhaps the best answer to your question comes from the story where Jesus came upon a woman who was about to be stoned to death for being caught committing adultery. Jesus saw the situation, turned to the folks with the rocks in their hands, and said “whoever is without sin should throw the first stone.”
Thump. Thump. Thump.
Pretty soon, all the rocks had been dropped (not thrown) and the would-be execution squad had gone home. At that point, Jesus turned to the woman and said “Go and sin no more.”
He doesn’t excuse what she did as acceptable, but he doesn’t want her killed for it either.
OT..Here is a link the tomorrows NYT editorial on Spitzer:
NYT
It’s been nice to talk to you, LS, as always, but the bubble bath calls.
(I haven’t met you in person, but, when I’m driving around and see the spring flowers growing wild on the side of the rode, I think of you.)
Your nice, demi. And speaking of my Auntie, I’m just about out the door to spend the night at her house. She’s almost 100 (next September) and someone in the family stays with her every night and takes her out to lunch every day. Good night. ;0)
Your reply was misdirected.
Yep. Lottsa Marys.
Thump. Dropping rock now.
Q: Would you be more surprised that Hillary screwed around or that Obama screwed around?
Thanks Peterr
Last time I brought up Mary Magdalene here will continue to be the last time.
Your reply was kinder than those I received.
That said, I do not bear Spitzer any ill will, and there certainly are questions about how he came to be in this position, but unless one of those questions points to a set-up , frame or fraud, I would say the crusader should step down and start thinking about how to recover in private.
Bless your horse back ridin’ and fishin’ heart!
(give her a peck on the cheek for me. Seriously)
Yes, I’ve known that story since my Grandmother taught it to me as a little kiddo. She gave me that story one afternoon after she took me to a matinee in Sacramento, to see the silent version of “The King of Kings”. I love the symbolism in it. ;0)
I do not care who was screwing whom as long as it was consensual and involved adults.
What I do care about is how the feds got involved and I am not buying that this came from the IRS. This case is by the Public Integrety Section of DOJ – boosh’s public integrity section of doj has zero credibility with me.
Either, to be honest. She knows what it’s like to be betrayed and I can’t see O going down that road (michelle could whoop some azz)
Good night all you beautiful folks.
I would be relieved if I found out that Hillary screwed around.
jayt: no, I still don’t think it would be whining if there is a case that they politicized it in an improper way. My first post made just your point. Spitzer admitted he did something, he’s gotta go. No point in whining about improper actions that might be there. But if you have evidence of politicization, then you must make the case. You can do that without whining.
If I were a pol on TV I would say
“Spitzer seemd to admit guilt to something today. We need more facts and see what happens over next few days. But, everyone knows the DOJ is polticized, and it seems yet again this was a politicized case, at least handled very politically to distract public from more horrible news on Bush and Cheney incompetence….
Well, yeah, the DOJ is polticized, and this is part of a pattern, the guy being guilty makes no difference -he is guilty and the DOJ is perverted and politicized. ARE YOU SIMPLE MINDED Chris! Can you walk and chew gum at the same time!!?? YEESH I GOTTTA SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU?
Yeah, what about the hookers? So what? Get a grip dude.”
Cottleston Pie :)
If Jesus were alive today, he’d make a heck of a Public Defender…
(I would say Judge, but around here only former prosecutors get elected to be judges)
why, it’s almost as if there is a bi-partisan consensus in support of corporate tyranny both at home and abroad?
unthinkable, I know.
oh and PW, there are vaccine “cultists” even within the government and judiciary!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..88323.html
don’t they know thimerosol is a compound, just like table salt?
Well, I do care about the non-consensual people involved. Like, his wife.
But, as I am ready to dip into the bubble bath, I’ll leave it to you and the other late nighters to take the blame from him and put it on the government. I will bathe in the assurance that you will leave No Stone unturned. :)
Yup. The personal part is the personal part no matter who you are. It happens all the time, all the time.
How this went down…is highly suspect.
Interesting story..using the tides to generate electricity
link
Client #9 = Spitzer.
Who knew that? Who snitched? Not the morality of it, the practicality of it. Someone “inside” something, knew his identity. Who leaked it, how and why?
That is the bottom line.
To those who replied to my Q about screwing around, all were thoughtful (Cottleston Pie notwithstanding) but the A is that the real world would be SHOCKED, I repeat SHOCKED, if Hillary did it, and modestly tsked-tsking if Obama did it.
You can’t repend there isn’t a double standard. Remember the book about Hillary’s x-racial affare by Anonymous.
I’m not defending the Federal Government’s illegal and immoral wiretapping. But, I think people should be held accountable and especially in this hypocritcal situation. I am not a prosecuter, judge or anything but a Blonde in Sylmar who understands a broken heart.
Mke that pretend.
Spitzer fucked up badly.
Now let’s see if the dept of justice fucked up too in this political investigation.
Gawd, can you imagine? There are more shoes to drop…ugh.
i apologize and have self moderated and removed my inappropriate comment
you make a good point. The politicizing – i.e. blaring and playing to the media, may be unfair and worth looking at. Although, while Vitter got off easy, I seem to recall that Larry Craig got bashed, for quite a while, quite unmercifully.
Somebody upstairs had a statistic as to the number of prosecutions brought by the “Justice” Department against Democrats, as opposed to the number brought against Republicans. Now to me – *that’s* worth looking at.
But then, we’ve known for quite some time now, since the days of Ashcroft, that the DOJ is politicized. Win the next goddamned election and fix it. In the meantime – don’t get caught with your pants down.
But, the linkage is still dubious…
Some individuals do possess the conditions ‘Mitochondrial’ or otherwise, to be adversely affected, but, the vast majority are not…!
NYC local news about to come on. Will post any goodies.
Top 10 will relat to Spitzer. Be sure to tune in.
I’m sorry you think that, one never knows, do one?
Nevertheless, I intend to enjoy my bath.
OT..Interesting, color coded maps of US with Dem primary voting by county
dkos
No to mention that there is already a ton of right-wing smear already aimed at hillary.
Well if Obama is caught screwing Hillary- then who wins- and does Bill get into the action?
Aww… eCAHN, my 5 o’clock news just came on…!
there are some hear agree. I do, even if I put it reather indelicately above.
Spitzer seemed to admit guilt today, so however they got him, they got him on something, and it looks bad. So, no point in trying to defend him against that.
Also, this is another pattern or very publicly leaking and sensationalizing cases selectively for political purposes. Perhaps selective investigations -I am convinced it goes on against Democrats in California all the time.
It is important to keep those two issues distinct, and not confuse trying to defend Spitzer, if he was admitting what he seemed to today, with the very serious and dangerous problem of corrupt DOJ.
Spitzer should have spent more time spooning with his misses and less time paying for a forking.
Spitzer still in NYC tonight.
LOL at Obama+Hillary.
Self flagellation, Ma Cherie? *g*
It is coming. The charge isn’t new, but they are targeting someone specific. It is going to get ugly.
Ann Coulter dating Bob Novak?
“Let’s say I go out every night, I meet a guy and have sex with him. Good for me. I’m not married.”—Ann Coulter on Rivera Live 6/7/00
“Anorexics never have boyfriends. … That’s one way to know you don’t have anorexia, if you have a boyfriend.” Ann Coulter on-Politically Incorrect 7/21/97
Peterr, the other take on that story is that a stone flew out from the crowd and when Jesus saw who threw it he said “dammit Mother!”
CTuttle:
pretty awful way to find out whether your kid posesses those conditions or not, since they are developing normally before being injected with mercury.
which, can do damage in minutes as researchers at the University of Calgary demonstrated:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85tgwh3HpsM
Saw ”Sicko” last night.
Two breasts, four beasts.
RW says, ”Check it out”!