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		<title>By: wesgpc</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/10/its-the-economy-stupid-again/#comment-1326743</link>
		<dc:creator>wesgpc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;chicken and egg problem there, I think, wrt to big time crony capitalist corruption we see today -which is very dangerous to economy.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chicken and egg problem there, I think, wrt to big time crony capitalist corruption we see today -which is very dangerous to economy.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/10/its-the-economy-stupid-again/#comment-1326478</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 02:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;the idea that American corporations could develop a social conscience seems naive, however.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think it’s better to let a corporation do what it’s supposed to do and look for ways to improve the system elsewhere.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mostly what you’ll find is corruption in government caused by the influence of a minority of people who use great wealth to gain inordinate influence in government. That skews the workings of government, so that we no longer have Government Of the People, By the People and For the People. We need a government which doesn’t allow so much media consolidation for example. It’s money which made that happen.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jerry Brown talked about it during his 1992 campaign and a Democrat shot him down — effectively ending his campaign.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;John Edwards has talked a lot about it, though not specifically with regard to campaign financing. The media effectively silenced him.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So long as the Big Money speaks loudly with a megaphone they will be heard and will get what they want to the detriment of the nation.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We can use the Internet to change that to some extent, but not completely. We don’t have direct access to the pockets of the politicians.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Think about it, what is there in our system which isn’t in some way the fault of a corrupted government?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the idea that American corporations could develop a social conscience seems naive, however.</p>
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<p>I think it’s better to let a corporation do what it’s supposed to do and look for ways to improve the system elsewhere.</p>
<p>Mostly what you’ll find is corruption in government caused by the influence of a minority of people who use great wealth to gain inordinate influence in government. That skews the workings of government, so that we no longer have Government Of the People, By the People and For the People. We need a government which doesn’t allow so much media consolidation for example. It’s money which made that happen.</p>
<p>Jerry Brown talked about it during his 1992 campaign and a Democrat shot him down — effectively ending his campaign.</p>
<p>John Edwards has talked a lot about it, though not specifically with regard to campaign financing. The media effectively silenced him.</p>
<p>So long as the Big Money speaks loudly with a megaphone they will be heard and will get what they want to the detriment of the nation.</p>
<p>We can use the Internet to change that to some extent, but not completely. We don’t have direct access to the pockets of the politicians.</p>
<p>Think about it, what is there in our system which isn’t in some way the fault of a corrupted government?</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/10/its-the-economy-stupid-again/#comment-1326431</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I am impressed with Obama’s ability to not get “hooked” into the crappola. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is it something to be impressed about? Is it an ability?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Earlier in the primary season it was Edwards who was knocking Clinton around and (I think) caused a lot of her supporters to think twice and then switch to Obama. What did Obama do to get the lead? He might have brought in illegal voters in Iowa, but aside from that he hasn’t really done anything.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t see him as a fighter, but as a passive go-along-to-get-along kinda guy. Maybe he identifies with Bill Clinton in that respect. Bill seemed to deal with the Republican congress as easily as he did the Dems before.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Considering Obama’s staying-above-the-fray style I can’t see him fighting for anything if he’s elected. It might wrinkle the suit.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I am impressed with Obama’s ability to not get “hooked” into the crappola. </p>
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<p>Is it something to be impressed about? Is it an ability?</p>
<p>Earlier in the primary season it was Edwards who was knocking Clinton around and (I think) caused a lot of her supporters to think twice and then switch to Obama. What did Obama do to get the lead? He might have brought in illegal voters in Iowa, but aside from that he hasn’t really done anything.</p>
<p>I don’t see him as a fighter, but as a passive go-along-to-get-along kinda guy. Maybe he identifies with Bill Clinton in that respect. Bill seemed to deal with the Republican congress as easily as he did the Dems before.</p>
<p>Considering Obama’s staying-above-the-fray style I can’t see him fighting for anything if he’s elected. It might wrinkle the suit.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/10/its-the-economy-stupid-again/#comment-1326362</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Banks begged to be able to play in all sorts of cool financial instruments. And now they are taking huge hits on them and some will fall.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Watch the movie: The Hudsucker Proxy&lt;br /&gt;
starring Tim Robbins and Paul Newman.&lt;br /&gt;
It’s a Coen brothers production that’s&lt;br /&gt;
terrific.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Go Eagles!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Banks begged to be able to play in all sorts of cool financial instruments. And now they are taking huge hits on them and some will fall.</p>
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<p>Watch the movie: The Hudsucker Proxy<br />
starring Tim Robbins and Paul Newman.<br />
It’s a Coen brothers production that’s<br />
terrific.</p>
<p>Go Eagles!</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/10/its-the-economy-stupid-again/#comment-1326356</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;OMG, this shows how desperate the Obama people are getting– the little girl in the ad actually supports Obama. So what? She was a tot back then, she was just an actress! Talk about desperate!!!!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Reichs~ Everybody in that ad were actresses. It was make-believe. It didn’t happen. There would ALWAYS be someone to answer the phone in the White House. It wouldn’t keep ringing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If Hillary really wants to answer that phone, President Obama can give her the night desk in the White House Response Room.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’d rather that someone be there to handle a crisis that is calm and moderate, rather than someone who in a crisis feels the need to “go negative”. The latter indicates panic when the campaign is spinning out of control. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The one who is desperate, and showing every symptom of it, is Clinton and her campaign. The melodramatic speeches about “Words”, the false bravado about victories (when Obama made up those delegate losses in Ohio and RI quietly in the next week, without bravado). Within the month it will soon be apparent that there just isn’t enough time to cut the delegate count below 100 or so. That’s when the Superdelegate shifts will start.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s all a matter if Clinton wants to “foul the nest” further for the party and to continue to hold it up to extortion…or will finally have the epiphany that she may be a perpetual blemish much like Nader has become…except 10 times worse. And she might be giving up either a Senate leadership role or even a Supreme Court Justice position down the road.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>OMG, this shows how desperate the Obama people are getting– the little girl in the ad actually supports Obama. So what? She was a tot back then, she was just an actress! Talk about desperate!!!!</p>
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<p>Reichs~ Everybody in that ad were actresses. It was make-believe. It didn’t happen. There would ALWAYS be someone to answer the phone in the White House. It wouldn’t keep ringing.</p>
<p>If Hillary really wants to answer that phone, President Obama can give her the night desk in the White House Response Room.</p>
<p>I’d rather that someone be there to handle a crisis that is calm and moderate, rather than someone who in a crisis feels the need to “go negative”. The latter indicates panic when the campaign is spinning out of control. </p>
<p>The one who is desperate, and showing every symptom of it, is Clinton and her campaign. The melodramatic speeches about “Words”, the false bravado about victories (when Obama made up those delegate losses in Ohio and RI quietly in the next week, without bravado). Within the month it will soon be apparent that there just isn’t enough time to cut the delegate count below 100 or so. That’s when the Superdelegate shifts will start.</p>
<p>It’s all a matter if Clinton wants to “foul the nest” further for the party and to continue to hold it up to extortion…or will finally have the epiphany that she may be a perpetual blemish much like Nader has become…except 10 times worse. And she might be giving up either a Senate leadership role or even a Supreme Court Justice position down the road.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn in MA</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/10/its-the-economy-stupid-again/#comment-1326350</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn in MA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;LOL! With the “What, me worry?” on the door!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL! With the “What, me worry?” on the door!</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/10/its-the-economy-stupid-again/#comment-1326339</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;We’ll put a shrimp on the barbie&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;See, now that’s just the kind of thing Spitzer may have been paying/charging $5,500/hour to see/do/experience.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We’ll put a shrimp on the barbie</p>
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<p>See, now that’s just the kind of thing Spitzer may have been paying/charging $5,500/hour to see/do/experience.</p>
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		<title>By: ScoopMag</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/10/its-the-economy-stupid-again/#comment-1326290</link>
		<dc:creator>ScoopMag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;When I saw the banking situation described as a “systemic margin call”, I thought a banking crisis at this point in time may trigger a bottoms-up approach to banking. Do It Yourself microlending, Firedoglake Bank &amp; Trust anyone? Not really kidding. With electronic fund transfers, a more peer-to-peer lending system can arise, most likely among online communities at first. Food for thought.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I saw the banking situation described as a “systemic margin call”, I thought a banking crisis at this point in time may trigger a bottoms-up approach to banking. Do It Yourself microlending, Firedoglake Bank &amp; Trust anyone? Not really kidding. With electronic fund transfers, a more peer-to-peer lending system can arise, most likely among online communities at first. Food for thought.</p>
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		<title>By: cinnamonape</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/10/its-the-economy-stupid-again/#comment-1326266</link>
		<dc:creator>cinnamonape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Linda Douglass was on Tweety, and she didn’t agree with you: she said going negative has worked for Hillary. That’s how she won Ohio and Texas.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hillary was way ahead in both Texas and Ohio when she was “nice” Hillary. Are you saying that she would have lost in those States if she hadn’t have “played dirty”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How Nixonian of her!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Linda Douglass was on Tweety, and she didn’t agree with you: she said going negative has worked for Hillary. That’s how she won Ohio and Texas.</p>
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<p>Hillary was way ahead in both Texas and Ohio when she was “nice” Hillary. Are you saying that she would have lost in those States if she hadn’t have “played dirty”.</p>
<p>How Nixonian of her!</p>
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		<title>By: Darroch</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/10/its-the-economy-stupid-again/#comment-1326240</link>
		<dc:creator>Darroch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ithought Yunus’ Banker to the Poor was a great book… the idea that American corporations could develop a social conscience seems naive, however.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ithought Yunus’ Banker to the Poor was a great book… the idea that American corporations could develop a social conscience seems naive, however.</p>
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