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	<title>Comments on: FDL Book Salon Welcomes Paul Frymer</title>
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		<title>By: Jane Hamsher</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/09/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-paul-frymer/#comment-1323793</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Hamsher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks so much for being here today, Paul.  Very interesting disscussion, I learned a lot and have almost the entire book underlined, so I’m sure I’ll be referring to it again.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much for being here today, Paul.  Very interesting disscussion, I learned a lot and have almost the entire book underlined, so I’m sure I’ll be referring to it again.</p>
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		<title>By: Audrey</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/09/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-paul-frymer/#comment-1323789</link>
		<dc:creator>Audrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ditto! Thanks to Bev and Jane and all who asked such great questions as well. I love this community.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks Dr. Frymer for an excellent salon.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto! Thanks to Bev and Jane and all who asked such great questions as well. I love this community.</p>
<p>Thanks Dr. Frymer for an excellent salon.</p>
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		<title>By: db11</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/09/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-paul-frymer/#comment-1323785</link>
		<dc:creator>db11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Paul - great discussion. Learned lots!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Paul &#8211; great discussion. Learned lots!</p>
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		<title>By: Audrey</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/09/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-paul-frymer/#comment-1323784</link>
		<dc:creator>Audrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Getting past the defensiveness is one of the hardest things in all of this. People put up huge boundaries and stop listening. Racism is a word that creates such extreme responses. But we can’t get beyond it by pretending it doesn’t exist. We just need to get at it by making everyone aware of how they participate in this process, usually unknowingly. It isn’t to blame these individuals–its just to create awareness of the ways in which we are both participants in this process and how the process involves mechanisms that we need to identify to target for change.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Instead, as I say in the preface of my book, we scream at Michael Richards and others who make bigoted comments, and ignore all the systemic features of racial inequality. Corporations never get accused of racism because their participation is much more subtle, is by the ‘rules’, and rarely gets any awareness.
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&lt;p&gt;Perfect description. It is frustrating. I’m glad I asked. :)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<p>Getting past the defensiveness is one of the hardest things in all of this. People put up huge boundaries and stop listening. Racism is a word that creates such extreme responses. But we can’t get beyond it by pretending it doesn’t exist. We just need to get at it by making everyone aware of how they participate in this process, usually unknowingly. It isn’t to blame these individuals–its just to create awareness of the ways in which we are both participants in this process and how the process involves mechanisms that we need to identify to target for change.</p>
<p>Instead, as I say in the preface of my book, we scream at Michael Richards and others who make bigoted comments, and ignore all the systemic features of racial inequality. Corporations never get accused of racism because their participation is much more subtle, is by the ‘rules’, and rarely gets any awareness.
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<p>Perfect description. It is frustrating. I’m glad I asked. :)</p>
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		<title>By: AZ Matt</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/09/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-paul-frymer/#comment-1323783</link>
		<dc:creator>AZ Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks Paul!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Paul!</p>
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		<title>By: db11</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/09/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-paul-frymer/#comment-1323782</link>
		<dc:creator>db11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Agree about Obama. One of the reasons I think his candidacy is so important is that he has re-engaged black voters in the political process. That there may (finally) be someone in the white house that actually cares about their interests, (or at worst won’t work actively against them) gives some hope for a future which can otherwise seem unbearingly bleak.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Whether he has (or will find) the political courage to do so remains at question, but at least there is a possibility that he will.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree about Obama. One of the reasons I think his candidacy is so important is that he has re-engaged black voters in the political process. That there may (finally) be someone in the white house that actually cares about their interests, (or at worst won’t work actively against them) gives some hope for a future which can otherwise seem unbearingly bleak.</p>
<p>Whether he has (or will find) the political courage to do so remains at question, but at least there is a possibility that he will.</p>
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		<title>By: AZ Matt</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/09/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-paul-frymer/#comment-1323781</link>
		<dc:creator>AZ Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;During the Earl Butz era of agriculture it was get big or get out.  Farmers in the San Joaquin Valley got big and little towns suffered.  Fewer people were left on the land to sell goods and services to.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During the Earl Butz era of agriculture it was get big or get out.  Farmers in the San Joaquin Valley got big and little towns suffered.  Fewer people were left on the land to sell goods and services to.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Frymer</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/09/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-paul-frymer/#comment-1323780</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Frymer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks everyone. I enjoyed the discussion very much.  Enjoy the rest of the weekend!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks everyone. I enjoyed the discussion very much.  Enjoy the rest of the weekend!</p>
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		<title>By: BevW</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/09/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-paul-frymer/#comment-1323778</link>
		<dc:creator>BevW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Paul thank you for stopping by the Lake and spending the afternoon.  We enjoyed your company and conversation.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul thank you for stopping by the Lake and spending the afternoon.  We enjoyed your company and conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: AZ Matt</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/09/fdl-book-salon-welcomes-paul-frymer/#comment-1323777</link>
		<dc:creator>AZ Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 23:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There are only so many steaks a millionaire can eat in a year.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are only so many steaks a millionaire can eat in a year.</p>
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