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	<title>Comments on: Enviro Shit-Talk That Isn&#8217;t About Hillary, Obama, Nader, or Ron Paul: Lurkers, Please Join Us (We Sent The Poo-Flingers To Bed Early)</title>
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		<title>By: kirk  murphy</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 21:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;begreen and upcoaster: welcome to the Lake.  Thank you both for letting us know what’s happening in your bioregions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;  begreen, thanks also for spreading the word about the welfare ranchers’ war on the wild.  some good friends of mine have served the Buffalo Field Campaign: good on ‘ya for getting the word out.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;upcoaster, I really hope the lawsuits stop another Rio Tinto nightmare: far too many around the planet already.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>begreen and upcoaster: welcome to the Lake.  Thank you both for letting us know what’s happening in your bioregions.</p>
<p>  begreen, thanks also for spreading the word about the welfare ranchers’ war on the wild.  some good friends of mine have served the Buffalo Field Campaign: good on ‘ya for getting the word out.</p>
<p>upcoaster, I really hope the lawsuits stop another Rio Tinto nightmare: far too many around the planet already.</p>
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		<title>By: upcoaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>upcoaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 15:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;watershed–South shore of Lake Superior–Upper Peninsula of Michigan.  One of the lovelier spots in the lower 48.  Is having a sulfide mine shoved down its’ throat by the state DNR and DEQ.  Mine owned by Rio Tinto, one of the most egregious polluters on planet Earth.  Hopefully many lawsuits will keep putting off start-up date.  Maybe someday everything won’t be all about the money.&lt;br /&gt;
I’m a dreamer, but I’m not the only one…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Upcoaster&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>watershed–South shore of Lake Superior–Upper Peninsula of Michigan.  One of the lovelier spots in the lower 48.  Is having a sulfide mine shoved down its’ throat by the state DNR and DEQ.  Mine owned by Rio Tinto, one of the most egregious polluters on planet Earth.  Hopefully many lawsuits will keep putting off start-up date.  Maybe someday everything won’t be all about the money.<br />
I’m a dreamer, but I’m not the only one…</p>
<p>Upcoaster</p>
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		<title>By: begreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>begreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 10:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;watershed:  Boise River&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;eco-news in my neck of the woods:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;livestock industry kills :&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;880 of yellowstone’s last native buffalo&lt;/a&gt; so far … rounding up more every day ~&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://wolves.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/wildllife_services-danskin/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wolves&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://wolves.wordpress.com/2008/02/23/buffalo-ridge-ternination/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wolves&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r8PhnTL-c0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wolves&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://wolves.wordpress.com/2008/02/24/comment-by-michael-robinson-google-news-comment-delisting-will-intensify-government-war-on-wolves-on-behalf-of-livestock-industry/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;more wolves&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hcn.org/servlets/hcn.Article?article_id=17251&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;bighorn sheep&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.westernwatersheds.org/news_media/newsmedia_2008/letter_congress_stop-wildlife-killing_3-6-08.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;188 animals per hour (24 mammals/hour)&lt;/a&gt; (pdf)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMFDOAd3Kw0&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;watersheds&lt;/a&gt; all over the west…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;cowboys’ war on wildlife ~ on public land&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the past 7 years has been hell on the west ~ DON’t let it happen again…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;be&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>watershed:  Boise River</p>
<p>eco-news in my neck of the woods:</p>
<p>livestock industry kills :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/" rel="nofollow">880 of yellowstone’s last native buffalo</a> so far … rounding up more every day ~</p>
<p><a href="http://wolves.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/wildllife_services-danskin/" rel="nofollow">wolves</a>, <a href="http://wolves.wordpress.com/2008/02/23/buffalo-ridge-ternination/" rel="nofollow">wolves</a>, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r8PhnTL-c0" rel="nofollow">wolves</a> and <a href="http://wolves.wordpress.com/2008/02/24/comment-by-michael-robinson-google-news-comment-delisting-will-intensify-government-war-on-wolves-on-behalf-of-livestock-industry/" rel="nofollow">more wolves</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.hcn.org/servlets/hcn.Article?article_id=17251" rel="nofollow">bighorn sheep</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.westernwatersheds.org/news_media/newsmedia_2008/letter_congress_stop-wildlife-killing_3-6-08.pdf" rel="nofollow">188 animals per hour (24 mammals/hour)</a> (pdf)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMFDOAd3Kw0" rel="nofollow">watersheds</a> all over the west…</p>
<p>cowboys’ war on wildlife ~ on public land</p>
<p>the past 7 years has been hell on the west ~ DON’t let it happen again…</p>
<p>be</p>
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		<title>By: kirk  murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>kirk  murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 08:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bonjours, omyword - thank you for joining us, and for your very kind comments about the article.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I sure agree with you about the core of responsibility for eco-destruction…and glad you enjoyed the campaign-free zone.  I also like reading the (other) writers and commenters here - they teach me a lot.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(can’t imagie why the Powers keep letting me dirty the place up…)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bonjours, omyword &#8211; thank you for joining us, and for your very kind comments about the article.</p>
<p>I sure agree with you about the core of responsibility for eco-destruction…and glad you enjoyed the campaign-free zone.  I also like reading the (other) writers and commenters here &#8211; they teach me a lot.</p>
<p>(can’t imagie why the Powers keep letting me dirty the place up…)</p>
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		<title>By: omyword</title>
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		<dc:creator>omyword</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 08:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m a little late in posting, since I just woke up here in Paris, but I appreciate the invite to delurk. This is my number one political blog to read, and it is Firedoglake’s coverage of the Libby trial that was the straw that broke my particular camel’s back, and empowered me to start blogging. I’d been a-political for most of my life, having been raised in a right-wing extremist household. If I asked questions or disagreed, I’d be shouted down. It was safer to STFU. But…no longer. I started to get really angry with The Junior Bush, so I started to educate myself, which of course, made me angrier. I HAD to start blogging, or I would explode.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am continuously astonished at not only the caliber of writing on this blog, but the incredible intelligence and insight of the community. Reading a single post is often only the tip of the iceberg. The comments go deep and long, and educate me even further, and I try and read every one. I have yet to go back and read all the comments on this post, but I will.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I found this post compelling, because of its ban on Dem blahblahing, for which I am grateful. I was tired of this campaign when it started back in ought 07. :-) Meanwhile…our environment…this is a subject I don’t post on in my own blog, or haven’t yet. I think I believe that the core responsibility for environmental destruction lies in the corporate and industrial and war complexes. Unobstructed corporate greed and arrogance is the cause and basis of this destruction. And unobstructed is a tame word…it implies that there is little oversight and a dearth of legislation and control, which is true. But it’s worse than that…governments and leaders worldwide aren’t just turning a blind eye, tacitly allowing this to happen. No…they are openly and blatantly supporting and funding corporate globalization of environmental destruction.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t know how to stop the corporate blob that’s covering our planet. It’s a Republican problem, yes. But the not-to-be-mentioned also have their pockets full with corporate shit-flavored money (just keeping on topic here).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyway - thanks for being here FDL and I’m happy to be a lurky-loo in such esteemed company.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m a little late in posting, since I just woke up here in Paris, but I appreciate the invite to delurk. This is my number one political blog to read, and it is Firedoglake’s coverage of the Libby trial that was the straw that broke my particular camel’s back, and empowered me to start blogging. I’d been a-political for most of my life, having been raised in a right-wing extremist household. If I asked questions or disagreed, I’d be shouted down. It was safer to STFU. But…no longer. I started to get really angry with The Junior Bush, so I started to educate myself, which of course, made me angrier. I HAD to start blogging, or I would explode.</p>
<p>I am continuously astonished at not only the caliber of writing on this blog, but the incredible intelligence and insight of the community. Reading a single post is often only the tip of the iceberg. The comments go deep and long, and educate me even further, and I try and read every one. I have yet to go back and read all the comments on this post, but I will.</p>
<p>I found this post compelling, because of its ban on Dem blahblahing, for which I am grateful. I was tired of this campaign when it started back in ought 07. :-) Meanwhile…our environment…this is a subject I don’t post on in my own blog, or haven’t yet. I think I believe that the core responsibility for environmental destruction lies in the corporate and industrial and war complexes. Unobstructed corporate greed and arrogance is the cause and basis of this destruction. And unobstructed is a tame word…it implies that there is little oversight and a dearth of legislation and control, which is true. But it’s worse than that…governments and leaders worldwide aren’t just turning a blind eye, tacitly allowing this to happen. No…they are openly and blatantly supporting and funding corporate globalization of environmental destruction.</p>
<p>I don’t know how to stop the corporate blob that’s covering our planet. It’s a Republican problem, yes. But the not-to-be-mentioned also have their pockets full with corporate shit-flavored money (just keeping on topic here).</p>
<p>Anyway &#8211; thanks for being here FDL and I’m happy to be a lurky-loo in such esteemed company.</p>
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		<title>By: omyword</title>
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		<dc:creator>omyword</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 07:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:LooHoo@14&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LooHoo@14&lt;/a&gt; - This is GREAT news. I had been following this but it seemed to drop off my feedreader radar. I couldn’t imagine having a NeoconKrishtianRhat mini God’s army training in beautiful San Diego’s back yard.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="mailto:LooHoo@14" rel="nofollow">LooHoo@14</a> &#8211; This is GREAT news. I had been following this but it seemed to drop off my feedreader radar. I couldn’t imagine having a NeoconKrishtianRhat mini God’s army training in beautiful San Diego’s back yard.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbrother</title>
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		<dc:creator>bigbrother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 04:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Notice Earth Hour:&lt;br /&gt;
On March 29, 2008, we’re asking you–and millions of others–to switch off the lights for one hour during Earth Hour.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What is Earth Hour?&lt;br /&gt;
Earth Hour is a global event created to symbolize that each of us, working together, can make a positive impact on climate change–no matter who we are or where we live. Starting at 8 pm local time on March 29, 2008, individuals, communities and businesses will “turn off the lights” in cities around the world for one hour. This simple act will not only heighten awareness of the impacts of climate change on our world, but also inspire individuals and businesses to take practical action to reduce their own carbon footprint.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Notice Earth Hour:<br />
On March 29, 2008, we’re asking you–and millions of others–to switch off the lights for one hour during Earth Hour.</p>
<p>What is Earth Hour?<br />
Earth Hour is a global event created to symbolize that each of us, working together, can make a positive impact on climate change–no matter who we are or where we live. Starting at 8 pm local time on March 29, 2008, individuals, communities and businesses will “turn off the lights” in cities around the world for one hour. This simple act will not only heighten awareness of the impacts of climate change on our world, but also inspire individuals and businesses to take practical action to reduce their own carbon footprint.</p>
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		<title>By: dmac</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 04:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;hey larue–i’m a girl, but girls can do a good ’hoss’………….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;bluegrass is huge here……..have you heard of the rarely herd? they’re from here……..winners of bluegrass assoc guitar of the year singer, group, etc…….they hosted one year, too.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;a friend gave me a mandolin a year or so ago, but haven’t gotten it out much, it’s hard to get the hang of it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;have you heard of del ray? she plays led zeppelin’s when the levee breaks, it’s killer….that’s the name of the cd it’s on, too…she was one of my favorite people at fur peace. she can play the hell out of a guitar. the guys bow to her mastery…..&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;make sure to check out wolfgang’s vault, larue, you will go nuts.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey larue–i’m a girl, but girls can do a good ’hoss’………….</p>
<p>bluegrass is huge here……..have you heard of the rarely herd? they’re from here……..winners of bluegrass assoc guitar of the year singer, group, etc…….they hosted one year, too.</p>
<p>a friend gave me a mandolin a year or so ago, but haven’t gotten it out much, it’s hard to get the hang of it.</p>
<p>have you heard of del ray? she plays led zeppelin’s when the levee breaks, it’s killer….that’s the name of the cd it’s on, too…she was one of my favorite people at fur peace. she can play the hell out of a guitar. the guys bow to her mastery…..</p>
<p>make sure to check out wolfgang’s vault, larue, you will go nuts.</p>
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		<title>By: foxman</title>
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		<dc:creator>foxman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 04:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;yes, Corporatism vs Environmentalism.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;guess who wins…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, Corporatism vs Environmentalism.</p>
<p>guess who wins…</p>
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		<title>By: Larue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 04:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hope you get there and you break a leg with all of them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mavis Staples, on now. What a treasure Pops and the family have been.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Right up there with the Pete Seegar’s, Jean Ritchie’s and others who have kept alive the old traditional music, and the political and social change music, for so many decades. Bless them all. I’m outta here, I need to talk change, and politics, not status quo (yer not status, or quo, IMHO). ;-)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope you get there and you break a leg with all of them.</p>
<p>Mavis Staples, on now. What a treasure Pops and the family have been.</p>
<p>Right up there with the Pete Seegar’s, Jean Ritchie’s and others who have kept alive the old traditional music, and the political and social change music, for so many decades. Bless them all. I’m outta here, I need to talk change, and politics, not status quo (yer not status, or quo, IMHO). ;-)</p>
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