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		<title>By: prostratedragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/06/bushs-solution-to-gas-prices-may-need-tweaking/#comment-1319022</link>
		<dc:creator>prostratedragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 09:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;I’ve seen this picture before, but I never noticed how tense the prince’s left hand looks. He’s really holding it awkwardly. It seems strange.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Does King Abdullah normally carry a weapon, small sword perhaps? Of course he would not take it into a visit with a host head of state, but you know old habits. The gesture suggests control to me. His bios have &lt;i&gt;no&lt;/i&gt; extraneous personal information in them.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;gtomkins at 69:&lt;i&gt;The jawbone of an ass&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I recall hearing him use that expression one time and snorting at his born-again claims … you’d think he’d at least know the scriptures.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’ve seen this picture before, but I never noticed how tense the prince’s left hand looks. He’s really holding it awkwardly. It seems strange.</i></p>
<p>Does King Abdullah normally carry a weapon, small sword perhaps? Of course he would not take it into a visit with a host head of state, but you know old habits. The gesture suggests control to me. His bios have <i>no</i> extraneous personal information in them.</p>
<p>gtomkins at 69:<i>The jawbone of an ass</i><br />
I recall hearing him use that expression one time and snorting at his born-again claims … you’d think he’d at least know the scriptures.</p>
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		<title>By: karnak12</title>
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		<dc:creator>karnak12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, right. That will surely work as well as it did the last time we asked her to do that.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, right. That will surely work as well as it did the last time we asked her to do that.</p>
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		<title>By: STTPinOhio</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/06/bushs-solution-to-gas-prices-may-need-tweaking/#comment-1317489</link>
		<dc:creator>STTPinOhio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;First of all these fields need to be nationalized. If I am forced to pay $3-4 per gallon of gas I’d feel somewhat better about it if it was going to our treasury vs. Big Oil, Saudi Arabia &amp;/or the rest of OPEC.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just like a prominent Democratic candidate is fond of saying, I not saying any of this would be easy. The point is once we as a country got serious about tapping this source, OPEC loses it’s stranglehold on pricing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all these fields need to be nationalized. If I am forced to pay $3-4 per gallon of gas I’d feel somewhat better about it if it was going to our treasury vs. Big Oil, Saudi Arabia &amp;/or the rest of OPEC.</p>
<p>Just like a prominent Democratic candidate is fond of saying, I not saying any of this would be easy. The point is once we as a country got serious about tapping this source, OPEC loses it’s stranglehold on pricing.</p>
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		<title>By: STTPinOhio</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/06/bushs-solution-to-gas-prices-may-need-tweaking/#comment-1317478</link>
		<dc:creator>STTPinOhio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;We have gone ’round and ’round on this before. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t expect to convince you of my opinion, so let’s just agree to disagree on this. None of us know precisely how much oil is left in any field, much less new ones that haven’t been tapped yet.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If anyone cares to read something that challenges the “peak oil” theme, check &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/raymond-j-learsy/oil-is-not-scarce-the-_b_21550.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; out. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It certainly made sense to me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have gone ’round and ’round on this before. </p>
<p>I don’t expect to convince you of my opinion, so let’s just agree to disagree on this. None of us know precisely how much oil is left in any field, much less new ones that haven’t been tapped yet.</p>
<p>If anyone cares to read something that challenges the “peak oil” theme, check <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/raymond-j-learsy/oil-is-not-scarce-the-_b_21550.html" rel="nofollow">this</a> out. </p>
<p>It certainly made sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: leftdcin72</title>
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		<dc:creator>leftdcin72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am not interested in lowering the bar to the that presented by the Clintons during the their first administration which you seem to do and  thus you limit my response to identifying positions taken by  people “in power” during the Clinton administration. My point is that the Clintons provided no leadership on the issue of dependence on foreign oil (now 66%). You call that lack of leadership “picking battles”. I call that conduct lack of leadership. Obviously you do not consider 66% dependence on foreign oil to be an issue that could have been addressed by the Clintons during their last administration because no one “in power” would have responded favorably. That is not what leadership is all about or even what politics is all about.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not interested in lowering the bar to the that presented by the Clintons during the their first administration which you seem to do and  thus you limit my response to identifying positions taken by  people “in power” during the Clinton administration. My point is that the Clintons provided no leadership on the issue of dependence on foreign oil (now 66%). You call that lack of leadership “picking battles”. I call that conduct lack of leadership. Obviously you do not consider 66% dependence on foreign oil to be an issue that could have been addressed by the Clintons during their last administration because no one “in power” would have responded favorably. That is not what leadership is all about or even what politics is all about.</p>
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		<title>By: rwcole</title>
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		<dc:creator>rwcole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oil sand and oil shale deposits are massive in north america- the expense to extract them are also very high. We are only now reaching the break even point for oil shale production according to wikipedia. This SHOULD, however, tend to keep world oil prices from going to $200 per barrel or more. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Production from oil shale apparently uses up about half of the energy extracted in mining, transportation, and heating to extract the ”oil”.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oil sand and oil shale deposits are massive in north america- the expense to extract them are also very high. We are only now reaching the break even point for oil shale production according to wikipedia. This SHOULD, however, tend to keep world oil prices from going to $200 per barrel or more. </p>
<p>Production from oil shale apparently uses up about half of the energy extracted in mining, transportation, and heating to extract the ”oil”.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;One can just as easily find figures online that show peak oil isn’t here yet. The world is a big place. As our technology gets better were finding huge reserves offshore we couldn’t access before.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Most of these estimates come “cornucopians”.  They keep predicting things like a return to $40/bbl oil.  They just aren’t very credible.  I am not sure what you mean by “huge reserves”.  The real question here is can you find and produce enough new fields to compensate for what you are losing from older fields that are beginning to play out.  The answer is no.  Deepwater and other reserves tend to be more difficult and costly to produce.  They also tend to be smaller.  So no they don’t make up for what has been lost.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The oil sands in Canada are massive, and will eventually provide us with 20% or more of our oil imports.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Total Canadian imports are about 2 million bbls/day.  We use just shy of 21 million bbls/day currently.  So say you could boost them up to around 4 million bbls/day or 20%, where are you going to find the other 17 million bbls/day we need (and this assumes our demand stays flat and does not increase)?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>One can just as easily find figures online that show peak oil isn’t here yet. The world is a big place. As our technology gets better were finding huge reserves offshore we couldn’t access before.</p>
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<p>Most of these estimates come “cornucopians”.  They keep predicting things like a return to $40/bbl oil.  They just aren’t very credible.  I am not sure what you mean by “huge reserves”.  The real question here is can you find and produce enough new fields to compensate for what you are losing from older fields that are beginning to play out.  The answer is no.  Deepwater and other reserves tend to be more difficult and costly to produce.  They also tend to be smaller.  So no they don’t make up for what has been lost.  </p>
<blockquote><p>The oil sands in Canada are massive, and will eventually provide us with 20% or more of our oil imports.</p>
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<p>Total Canadian imports are about 2 million bbls/day.  We use just shy of 21 million bbls/day currently.  So say you could boost them up to around 4 million bbls/day or 20%, where are you going to find the other 17 million bbls/day we need (and this assumes our demand stays flat and does not increase)?</p>
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		<title>By: dakine01</title>
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		<dc:creator>dakine01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There are probably a whole raft of issues that Clinton did not provide leadership on.  Just as there are a world of issues that all other politicians have not provided leadership on.  I believe they call it picking the battles.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Much as we may desire the magic wand to be waved and have the miracles occur, not every issue that is important to me is important to my leaders, of either party.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Is there ANYONE in ANY position of power in today’s US political scene who has provided leadership in these areas?  And how successful have they been in advancing this leadership?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It almost sounds like you wish Clinton had acted like BushCo and done things without getting a consensus from an opposition Congress.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are probably a whole raft of issues that Clinton did not provide leadership on.  Just as there are a world of issues that all other politicians have not provided leadership on.  I believe they call it picking the battles.</p>
<p>Much as we may desire the magic wand to be waved and have the miracles occur, not every issue that is important to me is important to my leaders, of either party.</p>
<p>Is there ANYONE in ANY position of power in today’s US political scene who has provided leadership in these areas?  And how successful have they been in advancing this leadership?</p>
<p>It almost sounds like you wish Clinton had acted like BushCo and done things without getting a consensus from an opposition Congress.</p>
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		<title>By: STTPinOhio</title>
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		<dc:creator>STTPinOhio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One can just as easily find figures online that show peak oil isn’t here yet. The world is a big place. As our technology gets better were finding huge reserves offshore we couldn’t access before.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Before I go any further, I want to make clear I’m all for conservation and more of it. I know, however, it’s in Big Oil’s interest to push the peak oil meme because it means “peak profits.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A very strong case can be made there is more oil in shale rock in the Western U.S. than in all of Saudi Arabia.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The oil sands in Canada are massive, and will eventually provide us with 20% or more of our oil imports.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Again, this is not to revel in more use of fossil fuels; I’m just offering a different view on the issue.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One can just as easily find figures online that show peak oil isn’t here yet. The world is a big place. As our technology gets better were finding huge reserves offshore we couldn’t access before.</p>
<p>Before I go any further, I want to make clear I’m all for conservation and more of it. I know, however, it’s in Big Oil’s interest to push the peak oil meme because it means “peak profits.”</p>
<p>A very strong case can be made there is more oil in shale rock in the Western U.S. than in all of Saudi Arabia.</p>
<p>The oil sands in Canada are massive, and will eventually provide us with 20% or more of our oil imports.</p>
<p>Again, this is not to revel in more use of fossil fuels; I’m just offering a different view on the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: leftdcin72</title>
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		<dc:creator>leftdcin72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You are testing me but I do not agree. And certainly the Clintons offered no leadership on this issue and hence bring no “experience” to the fore on this issue in 2008. I wonder why you ignore the fact that Israel was able to discern electric batteries as a priority during the same time period and  Israek now leads the world in automotive battery technology with 200 mile range electric cars. I could be in error on the range but I am advised by my electrical engineer friends that actually Israel has even better new battery technology.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bottom line: The Clintons have never offered any leadership on this issue. Wonder why that is?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are testing me but I do not agree. And certainly the Clintons offered no leadership on this issue and hence bring no “experience” to the fore on this issue in 2008. I wonder why you ignore the fact that Israel was able to discern electric batteries as a priority during the same time period and  Israek now leads the world in automotive battery technology with 200 mile range electric cars. I could be in error on the range but I am advised by my electrical engineer friends that actually Israel has even better new battery technology.</p>
<p>Bottom line: The Clintons have never offered any leadership on this issue. Wonder why that is?</p>
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