In Texas, the caucuses were swamped in places that previously had seen as little as 3 or 4 people participating in past years. Voter turnout in TX blew the prior primary record out of the water by around a million voters.
In Ohio, they also set a record for primary turnout, as voters battled horrid weather to get to the polls:
Results showed that the Democratic contest dominated the night in Ohio, with many unaffiliated and Republican voters choosing to vote on the Democratic side in this perennial swing state that has made a habit of picking presidents.
With 97 percent of precincts reporting, Democratic candidates received more than twice the number of votes that Republicans did, with 2.15 million votes to Republicans' roughly 1.05 million.
There were also record numbers in Vermont and Rhode Island. Vermont had 13,000 new voter registrations to add to their voting totals, all registered just since January. Rhode Island's turnout was more than double their previous primary high mark.
Which just adds to the increased numbers in every Democratic primary thus far. It's especially notable in light of prior primaries, comparing D and R numbers this year:
In the first five weeks of 2008, "voter turnout" was a phrase that was used almost exclusively in connection with the Democratic Party. There were routine stories of precincts running short on ballots, poll hours being extended, and voters packing haunch to paunch inside community centers and local churches. Crowd sizes were described, often with growing awe, as "staggering," "record breaking," or "unprecedented."
The actual numbers justified the claims....
On a state-by-state basis, Democrats had higher turnouts than Republicans in 19 out of 25 states. The six outliers that tilted Republican were Arizona (Sen. John McCain's home turf), Utah (a pro-Romney Mormon stronghold), Michigan (where Rep. Denis Kucinich was the sole Democrat to campaign), Florida (where no Democrats campaigned), Alabama, and Alaska.
Even in Georgia, a state President George W. Bush won in 2004 by 17 percent, Democratic voters outnumbered Republicans by nearly 100,000....
Every state thus far has also seen newly added registrations, some at rates exceeding what the expectations were from prior years. While primary turnout doesn't necessarily translate into a fall victory, the increased enthusiasm and new registration numbers -- if it holds through November -- could have a very positive effect on a whole host of down ticket races. And that translates into a potential long-term shift in a whole lot of communities and states.
Some of the credit for this increase has to go to Obama strategist David Axelrod, whose background in media work and message crafting has helped him shape a formidable ground game for the campaign. The increase in Clinton organizational energy coincided with the return of Harold Ickes, whose experience is useful, whose past missteps may be legion, but whose mind for numbers is incredible. Which makes for a lot of continued excitement in the weeks ahead, I'm sure. But the most credit has to go to energized voters:
"I don't know how much difference this makes in the long run, but it makes a lot of difference to me," said 31-year-old Megan House, who was hoping to be chosen a delegate for the next stage of the process. "You've got to make a stand somewhere. People are understanding that democracy is controlled by those who show up."
For all of you thus far who have voted and worked this election cycle? Bravo.
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My party is on a roll.
Our only hope is a voter tsunami.
the dem turnout is the most comforting thing I have as regards this election
I am certain they would do whatever it takes to steal yet another election but if the numbers are too great, they might not even try
let’s temper the euphoria with the fact that most people don’t come out for primaries, on the democratic side we are more interested in who runs then they are on the republican side
they will therefore not show up in the prmirary but will show up in the general
I hope I am wrong but the voting numbers should be closer during the actual election
let’s hope it’s a tsunami ask kerkwurdiglieber says
oh man. i saw that same quote in the houston chronicle while looking for info on texas turnout and thought it a perfect slogan for someone…..
Come November, we’re going to defeat you, Mr. Rove. Soundly.
So Karl Rove. This is your vision of Republicanism as far as the eye can see? I don’t think so.
Mr. McCain: You pathetic sap.
I think we will get a tsunami. Can’t think of any reason all these people would go through these rather difficult conditions, including weather, and not bother to vote in the general. It obviously means a lot to people this time around and that’s a great thing.
karl rove has new math, and the republicans are gonna win
the prsident has the same math
they call it “fuzzy” math
they have an ace in the hole, a “catastrophy” and elections will mean nothing at all if they play that ace
We need all of that enthusiasm in November when the waves of negativity will drive up R turnout.
The GOP blinked. They nominated John McCain.
work, later all
State elections officials say about 3.7 million Texans — or about 29 percent of the state’s registered voters — had cast ballots with about 85 percent of precincts reported. The state’s previous turnout record was 2.7 million set in 1988.
These numbers are astounding…
I think I have a primary hangover…is anybody a little freaked that rushbo is telling his disciples to vote for HRC? Is this good or bad? True? To me it means that a good number of folks voting for her in primaries will not vote for her in the general. Or is this inconsequential due to the fact that more dems are turning out.
sorry if I missed this discussion in an earlier thread someplace.
Which is exactly why doing the work NOW is so important. We can’t wait until September to start gearing things up for all the down-ticket races and especially not for Congressional races for folks like Vic Wulsin, who won her primary last night and will face off against Mean Jean Schmidt again.
We have to get on the ball now…no waiting, no way.
Years ago, I worked on an Axelrod-managed campaign in Illinois. I know very little of the behind the scenes stuff of the Obama campaign, but I see — and admire — Axelrod’s hand at work in a lot of things they are doing.
Oops — meant to include a link on Vic Wulsin’s win — here you go…
It’s always good for the GOP. Always. Just ask Rush, or Sean, or BillO, or anyone else at Faux News.
I sure wish some of the 350M spent so far on the Presidential primary would find it’s way to the down-ticket candidates.
rgr that! That is where the real race is.
You are seeing a tsunami at the moment, will it still be on this fall for the election? I think so.
You can bet the republicans are going nuts these days, and that, unsurprisingly, they will stop at nothing to win. Cheney and his faithful minions will go mediaval on the Democratic party. Expect the worst from these cornered rats, the very worst…
Doh! I should have known that! *g*
There is work to be done. We cannot do the unspeakable. Let John McCain win. I want to see Obama and Hillary come to an agreement. Very soon. This is a must. The nation comes way before personal ambition.
The time has arrived for Senator Clinton and Senator Obama to show real leadership. They know what I’m talking about.
Christy,
I’m trying to get a hold of the recording of McCain’s phone call from Texas to the Rep/ McCain headquarters in Columbus last night. My husband and I were watching the news and McCain in his thanks reminded the republicans he will surely “contest and fight” the Ohio vote outcome in the November election. I thought that was pretty strong and revealing for him to say after this March primary. Both of us said at the same time, “What the *&%$ does that have to do with tonight’s outcome except the number of voters who registered Dem, especially “switch overs”.
My guess is, Reps are already contesting the number of Dems voting. The comment needs to be looked at and HAMMERED away at because Ohio voters will not put up with language like THAT NOW before we even have had the Presidential election.
Honestly, when will the GOP GET A CLUE!
This broadcast ran right after a live broadcast with the Secretary of State explaining the high Dem turnout and the need to keep polls open longer in some areas because precincts ran of party declaration sheets for voters and had to deliver extras.
Let me just add for Sen. McCain, the “switch over” rate was so high in Ohio thanks to your “buddy” former Secretary of State, Kenneth Blackwell, who ran for Gov. in Ohio. So many of us DID NOT want him to end up on the ballot and knew the Dem candidate who was the strongest would surely win. Many Dems and Indeps. declared Rep. in the last primary (last May) to cast a vote against Blackwell.
Stop the threat on Ohio now Senator McCain.
Thanks, Christy for the excellent overall.
Personally, I’m not particularly comforted by the difference in numbers betwen Dem and the Dark Side primary turnout numbers. In addition to whatever number of them are crossing over to vote and caucus in our open primaries and caucuses, Dark Side races are not contested at this point in the game. Yes, I remember we’ve been outnumbering them from the beginning.
They will each fight on, maybe all the way to the convention. My prediction.
is anybody a little freaked that rushbo is telling his disciples to vote for HRC? Is this good or bad? True?
Obama has coattails, HRC has Clinton Derangement Syndrome. the Rs will remember they have to help JimBob clean out the garage/have a Drs appt/get their hair done and the Dems will turn out in force if it’s an Obama/McStain race. if it’s HRC/McStain the Rs come out in a last throes frenzy to vote against her and there won’t be as much enthusiasm on the Dem side.
amen on your props to Axelrod, Christy !
even before I’d made up my mind I thought that alone may be reason to support Obama, imagine that juggernaught hooking up with Chairman Dean’s 50 State Strategy after the convention - Bluenami !
I am hoping that this means the non-voting majority have finally woken up. I remember the stunned silence from everyone after the 2004 returns came in. It reminded me of the guy who goes onto the meeting thinking he had a deal, just to get shafted once the meeting starts.
I suspect the public is quietly pissed because most people just assumed Kerry had won.
The majority doesn’t stand up and scream like we do. Like everything else in our lives, we just quietly do what we need to solve the problem.
And I hope everyone enjoys the Debussy in the YouTube above. It’s a lovely break from the ceaseless talking head chatter, I have to say…
That might prove to be undesirable and perhaps somewhat defeatist.
Agreed. Just my prediction. Not my preference. If the numbers remain equivocal, the fight will continue. To me, that’s obvious.
im tired
show me the money….CHANGE is the answer to Bushco/neoconism
hey BobbyG -
the fight will continue.
after their statements on Monday, wonder if we’ll hear from Gov Richardson and other ‘establishment Dems’
Oh, and thank you all for the non-poo-flingy environment today.
if Pelosi,would start impeachment proceedings,Bushco would not have time to….1..keep fighting the FISA crap,2start a war with Iran,3Venezuela,Hammas…etc,etc…throw em a CURVE BALL Nancy
Wolcott disagrees with you on that one.
I know most everyone who likes Claude Debussy usually picks one favorite. Clair de lune. God I cherish this tune and all of Mr. Debussy’s work. The man was, and remains, pure genius. His music is almost haunting.
She got No Game. Wish in one hand, shit in the other, see which one fills up faster.
i say keep their stable of lawyers busy defending the Chump &Co
You are welcome. I’ve had it up to here with whinging and hand wringing and overwrought melodramatic name-calling and finger-pointing. This is politics, not a Miss Manners festival. And it will work itself out in the end the way it always does…over time.
Christy @ 15:
Indeed. Methinks we may need to remind ourselves of this over and over and over again. Edwards spoke of the epic battle. We must not let ourselves get bogged down/iraqisized = disheartened by the vagaries of the campaign season.
More and better Democrats…from the WH to the Congress to the statehouses to the wee township halls. This is no time for timeouts.
Erm, Republicans came out to vote for Hillary knowing she’s the weakest link in the General Election being offered up by the Democratic Party.
if ever there were high crimes and misdemeanors…see war crimes trials,a blueprint to follow,i think Vt.made some indictments last night….push THEM ALL back on their heels
Your proof on that would be at what link? Are you sure that GOP voters didn’t favor either her or Obama in their votes — because I’ve seen plenty of evidence in reporting and number-cruching from a number of disperate sources and from both campaigns on that. If you throw out an accusation or innuendo, please be prepared to back it up with links and facts. Thanks!
I believe I had noticed that!
thanks so very much for the musical respite. it’s soothing and smile inducing after a twisted 24 hours.
How many? Where?
Someone disagrees with me? How dare they? Off with their heads! And make it hurt. ;0)
Clenis was so busy defending the wurlitzer attack,he didnt have time for much else………push Chimpco…back
Agreed. Pandemic Bu’ush-ist criminality. I just won’t hold my breath that Pelosi et al will do anything.
not quite DeBussy, but music to this hippy’s ears -
by 501c4 issue-advocacy group Campaign to Defend America, ran in Ohio
McSame
I just want the Republicans outta the White House.
Just had a disturbing conversation with a coworker. My coworker’s prediction is that Hil will get the nomination, and as a result will lose all those “energized” Obama primary voters in the general. Thus we snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Again.
My coworker is very savvy, but I hope very wrong.
Isn’t that table odd? Maybe someone else can see the unifying principle, but it escapes me at the moment. However, it looks as though more often than not Republicans just don’t do primaries — they save it for the General Election. (Kinda fits with acquiesence to authority: the wise ones will decide who we are to vote for, and when the order is given, we shall march to the polls and do the right thing.)
The participation in the Democratic primaries is wonderful, and the NEW registrations may be important, but this is going to be a short, hard, vicious uphill fight, between the conventions and the general.
In fact, here are a few that I’ve seen this week:
– Obama hopes for crossover votes in Ohio.
– Texas Republicans crossover for Obama.
– Disgruntled in Texas.
And that’s just a tiny sampling. In the general election, the ability to snag crossover votes is going to be critical — which is why both Obama and Clinton need to start working that angle now rather than waiting until later. They are both politically savvy enough to know this — and we shouldn’t allow divisive media spin to tell us that it isn’t good tactics to court this, because it is. (See the above numbers on Georgia for a glimpse as to why…)
INQUIRY…..push em back…..they have WAY TOO MUCH time on their hands between now and Jan 09…keep em busy answering supboenas
If McCain gets in it will be the age of torrid conservatism.
The antidote for poo? Trying to soothe us savage beasts any way you can, eh, christy?
he is a bush/cheney puppet
Not gonna happen, IMHO. Sad, but true, I think.
I meant it yesterday when I said I had really had it with the invective. We can talk facts all day long, but throwing out non-fact-based, unsubstantiated whinging is no good for anyone. Least of all for motivating folks to do the work we all need to be doing going into November — that needs to get started now.
The media’s interest is to play divide and conquer with all of us, continually stirring the pot and the animosity…because that means more revenue for them and a clear field for St. McCain. Don’t fall for their crap.
Hi everyone. Just curious. Am I the only one who does NOT take that prediction as bad news?
To me, if we can keep it clean and fair, a good tussle is a good thing. We voted for Obama, and almost surely will again. But I am glad Hillary Clinton eked out a couple of important victories to keep her going. Nothing like a good lively ongoing debate to keep the interest level up.
It should take some of the fire out of Nader’s brimstone, and as for StCain’s campain? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Still, it might not be a bad idea for everyone here at the Lake to remind both the Democratic candidates AND their respective campaigns to KEEP IT CLEAN AND FAIR. Get down-&-dirty? Yer gonna lose.
So, on to the Convention if necessary.
And thanks for the great posts Redd. I’ll bet the MSM would rather have ignored the humungous turnout. It gives me goosebumps, heh.
GO BLUE!
it is the answer to a big win….tie old man McBush to the CRIMINAL party
I took a little comfort in something (gasp!) Tim Russert showed everyone last night. It was some sort of estimate done by the Obama camp (he claims) of which states Obamawould win and it’s been accurate. Obama’s people were not counting on wins in Texas or Ohio. So they must have a plan all the way through. Their campaign is rather remarkable in how they are charting their own course down Poo River.
Did anyone else see this? thoughts?
Did she give a reason for this? Because she is going to have to win remaining states by pretty overwhelming majorities to pull it off.
Rush is just trying to find a parade to get in front of so he can pretend he has some influence, after his anti-McCain jihad was a complete failure. I don’t think his ability to move people to action is any greater now than it was then.
so who will McBush chose as his partner in crime?
I hear ya. I saw a headline about Obama’s “glass jaw” and just rolled my eyes and said to myself “well, they have to print something and sell it.”
Christy, you so rock!
1,777 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Hardin Smith and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
Before we get too far out on this high tide of voter turnout, let’s make sure we got a paddle ta get back ta the beach when the the current shifts. I wanna know about the Republican crossover in Ohio and the breakdown of the Hispanic vrs. Black vote in Texas. This, friends, is what we’re seein’ here with the Clinton-Ickes-DLC campaign machine: 1.) organize Republican crossovers in areas that are decidedly NOT multi-cultural (read racist) to bulk up her vote and neutralize the vote in the big urban areas. 2.) pit the Hispanic vote against the Black vote as we saw in LA in the earlier primary to undo years of careful organizin’ of local party workers and dispirit large blocks of urban voters who have been energized ta vote for the first time in years.
The results of this strategy can only be negative for Democrats in the fall. If Mrs. Clinton succeeds in stealin’ the nomination in a brokered convention from the candidate that ken beat McCrazy, we lose in the fall and half the new voters energized by Obama disappear in the future and the corporatist ‘big state” television politics kills democracy. If Mrs. Clinton loses the nomination with the grace she has shown up to this point and with the message she has used to energize some of her key constituencies, then the Democratic Party is mortally wounded. I don’t see ANYthin’ good comin’ from last night unless it wakes Obama up and he looses the “dogs of hell” on the Witch from Illinois (or is it Arkansas or is it New York) over NAFTA, the war and Joe Lieberman.
KEEP THE FAITH AND KEEP FIGHTIN’, THERE IS NO COMPROMISIN’ WITH FASCISTS!!
Repeating my earlier thought from today: Let’s push for Timmeh to make his next “gotcha” moment asking St. John if he will pardon Bush and Cheney if elected. We have a right to know!
I too am concerned with skewed numbers due to open primaries where repubs are trying to influence the dem choice.
Let’s start referring to him as John McBu’ush.
This MSM suggestion that the Democrats’ battle will cost them the general election is ludicrous. If anything, it publicizes and popularizes the party and gets people (like me!) who have never been involved in a campaign to go in (I plan to make phone calls in Pennsylvania for Obama).
One negative thing, however, about a drawn-out race is that the party’s not unified on ending the war and we may end up with a(nother) candidate who has neutralized the war as an issue to campaign on. Clinton is implicitly depreciating those Democrats who have always opposed this war as “naive” or “inexperienced” and unable to go against McCain. That is a calamity.
yes WALLPAPER him to them,and ALL their crimes
Huckelberry Hound, champion of zygotic citizens, would be an entertaining VP candidate choice.
yes
I will agree with Wolcott on this: MSNBC’s election night coverage is ridiculous. As I have said previously, Tweety and KO have absolutely no business anchoring these election night shows. This allows their prejudices to flavor the entire coverage.
I watched CNN, for the most part, last night and found it to be superior to MSNBC. thge news people were straight and accurat ein their coverage. Their opnion people were the equal of MSNBC’s.
i say darth will pick em…Condi?
Norske, if both candidates are playing by the rules as they were written at the start of the campaign, then neither of them will be “stealing” anything. And to start down that throwing out accusations road without any proof? That just hurts the party when we are months away from the convention, now doesn’t it?
Not like Sen. Clinton is one thing, accusing her of trying to pull something that neither she nor Sen. Obama have tried to remotely pull as yet is uncalled for at this stage. Both of them are working the superdelegates. Both fo them are jockeying for spin positioning. Both of them are fighting hard for the nomination personally and through surrogates. Both of them are politicians and expected to act like it…which is to say, neither of them are saints, nor are they surrounded by as many dirty-trickster sinners as McCain.
So let’s keep our eyes on the real enemy for the fall, shall we? Hello, GOP…we hear you snore.
but we must expose the crimes and harp on them,not just let them go down the memory hole
Cheney and Condi hate each other. So I seriously doubt it.
OK …who will the cabal chose iyo?
Does anyone differ with the premise that Hillary or Obama are highly preferable to McCain? And if anyone takes exception to this statement would you pleases include me in on your thinking as to your reasons?
short & sweet.
there ya go!
Hi Kiddo. You and Lahoma up all night dancin? ;->
This is what scares me about a Clinton candidacy. (Not poo, just pragmatism. I personally don’t care which one wins–or appears first on the ticket.)
that is teh fabulous.
I agree. The conventional wisdom has been that when the Republicans wrapped up their nomination first, it was (as always) good for the GOP and bad for the Dems, because McCain could go straight into “defining” his opponent, and the Dem candidates would still be fighting each other. Instead, the result seems to have been that the exciting Dem contest sucks up all the media oxygen, and no one cares much about what McCain might be trying to do.
i want the fall election to be such a resounding repudiation to the Republicans ,that Barry Goldwater looks stellar
AP - Barack Obama regained lost ground in the fierce competition for Democratic convention delegates on Wednesday based on results from the Texas caucuses, partially negating the impact of Hillary Rodham Clinton’s string of comeback primary victories.
I’m just thinking out loud and people here politely allow me to do so, so here’s some more. I really want to be able to rally around our dem choice asap. I’m really impatient.
However, it probably IS a great thing that our candidates continue to duke it out because then everyone has a voice in areas of the country. Not all states have open primaries…plus, whoever does finally get the nomination should expect to have support in all states because everyone had a chance to choose.
OTOH, if it gets too nasty, that’s counterproductive too.
I think you are looking at trees rather than the forest.
What cabal? You mean the voters in all the states who have yet to vote? Or the superdelegates, most of whom are elected officials and answerable to voter opinion so that they take it into account when they make their decisions public?
Jeebus, people, it’s not as though we haven’t been down the contested primary road before. Either Obama or Clinton will end up being the nominee in the end — whomever doesn’t get the nod will support the other, because they both know that McCain as President is bad for all of us. Which is pretty much the point…isn’t it?
and as usual,i DONT trust the MSM(corporate)
aint it though :)
via TPM
Hi GW, thanks again for your report yesterday. You must be bursting yer buttons over caucus turnout!
the ensconsed corporate oligarch
I think the question was about who will be chosen for McCain’s VP.
Nope, it’s all pure speculation at this point. But I do agree with Christy wholeheartedly about the poo flingage. Despite whatever scenarios we can imagine, we need to push both candidates towards progressive positions and encourage a pragmatic resolution to this electoral conundrum.
in my question ,i was asking who would be McBushs mate,chosen by the Cheney cabal
We are having some work done on the kitchen today. I wanted a new, bigger and better stove, which requires some cabinet relocation. When it comes to cooking and other kitchen stuff and some other things, Lahoma likes to keep me happy. Hope you are having a great day Adie. ;0)
we are trying,has Edwards weighed in?
?
Ahhh…well, no idea there. PW has odds on Tim Pawlenty, who has been kissing McCain’s ass in the worst way. I think Huckabee wants it badly, but I doubt seriously if he’d make the cut. Ditto for Huckleberry Graham. If I had to guess, I’d say Haley Barbour would be on the short list, to reel in the 28-percent crowd that loathe McCain…but it’s just a guess.
The primary in my state (PA) is closed so Rethugs would have
to register ahead of time (by March 24th) in order to vote for a Dem.
By the way, I hereby declare PA to be the KING OF ALL STATES.
You may now commence with the groveling.
oh Haley B. has Katrina skeletons ……..many
It saddens me that the Clintons are able to sustain a divisive campaign, in part, based upon the empty promise of Universal Healthcare when the Clintons have a proven inability to work successfully with the legislative branch of government. Ohio is a red state forever for the Clintons going forward. And if they are nominated, the only hope for their election is that they are viewed as the lesser evil than McCain. I suspect that the Ohio vote for the Clintons is a fear vote, not an experience vote or a change vote or a positive vote, except for women over 60.
we need to push both candidates towards progressive positions and encourage a pragmatic resolution to this electoral conundrum.
Exactly because neither of them are truly progressive. Not only that but