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		<title>By: DWBartoo</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/the-right-wing-delusional-out-of-it-and-in-denial/#comment-1312404</link>
		<dc:creator>DWBartoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I should like to see a wee bit of ‘evidence’ supporting this ‘Blackmail Theory’.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As ’speculation’ it has a following.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But for me, at least, it has more the aspect of romantic fantasy or the feeling of a fairy-tale.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Mere ‘embarrassment’ could not be excruciating enough; why not suggest dire threat, of life or limb or towards one’s family?  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I do not find it reassuring that, according to your theory, ALL of the Democrats, willy-nilly,  obligingly have ‘phone’ or ‘net’ peccadillos or felonious, clacking skeletons so ripe for plucking that, enmasse, without exception, they are so cravenly and contentedly in the palms of our latter-day Augustus (Bush) and his Livia(Cheney).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For if they are, they weren’t ‘much’ to begin with and hardly worth a fig to the rest of us, and therefore not worth defending and certainly not worth retaining in their present sinecures, which may well be the case, regardless, but I think the ‘answer’ far more simple.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They are doing what they are doing, not because they have to, but because they choose to, perhaps they even ‘want’ to.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now, you ask, ‘Why might that be?’&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The simple answer; ‘they’ really don’t see things the way ‘we’ do.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The less-happy answer; ‘they’ wish to be on the ‘winning’ side, which, painful as this might be to believe, they do NOT see as being with ‘us’, but rather with great wealth and unrestrained power.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If this last speculation (for a ‘theory’ it is not, there being no ‘test’ or reasonable procedure to determine the ‘truth’ of the matter) is true,&lt;br /&gt;
then it shall make little difference who holds, ostensibly, the reins of power, for ‘they’ are, many of them, to a greater or lesser degree, corrupted by that same power, and no more interested in truth or justice than those whom they would, playing to the ‘public’, appear to challenge.&lt;br /&gt;
In which case, it is all but sham and pretense, ’sound and fury, signifying nothing’ …&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Whatever the ‘truth’ our dilemma remains, but perhaps ‘cynicism’ is, ultimately, more vulnerable to ‘change’ than is the power of fear, with which we have all become far too-familiar of late.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The real question, which all of us here face, is this;  If the Democrats ‘win’, will it make any difference?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;To be brutally honest, both your ‘theory’ and my worst-case ’speculation’, logically must argue, ‘NO!’&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Were it otherwise, your ‘theory’ would require a mass confessional, which seems beyond ‘likely’; whereas my worst-case ’speculation’ would  offer both more power and the opportunity of yet more wealth, neither of which would engender ‘good’ change or a call to honesty.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Our best hope, so it seems to me, is that my lesser ’speculation’ describes our situation, for then there is at least the possibility, however slim, that ‘change’ which neither threatens or embarrasses over-much, may be embraced by those who frustrate us so universally …&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should like to see a wee bit of ‘evidence’ supporting this ‘Blackmail Theory’.</p>
<p>As ’speculation’ it has a following.</p>
<p>But for me, at least, it has more the aspect of romantic fantasy or the feeling of a fairy-tale.</p>
<p>Mere ‘embarrassment’ could not be excruciating enough; why not suggest dire threat, of life or limb or towards one’s family?  </p>
<p>I do not find it reassuring that, according to your theory, ALL of the Democrats, willy-nilly,  obligingly have ‘phone’ or ‘net’ peccadillos or felonious, clacking skeletons so ripe for plucking that, enmasse, without exception, they are so cravenly and contentedly in the palms of our latter-day Augustus (Bush) and his Livia(Cheney).</p>
<p>For if they are, they weren’t ‘much’ to begin with and hardly worth a fig to the rest of us, and therefore not worth defending and certainly not worth retaining in their present sinecures, which may well be the case, regardless, but I think the ‘answer’ far more simple.</p>
<p>They are doing what they are doing, not because they have to, but because they choose to, perhaps they even ‘want’ to.</p>
<p>Now, you ask, ‘Why might that be?’</p>
<p>The simple answer; ‘they’ really don’t see things the way ‘we’ do.</p>
<p>The less-happy answer; ‘they’ wish to be on the ‘winning’ side, which, painful as this might be to believe, they do NOT see as being with ‘us’, but rather with great wealth and unrestrained power.</p>
<p>If this last speculation (for a ‘theory’ it is not, there being no ‘test’ or reasonable procedure to determine the ‘truth’ of the matter) is true,<br />
then it shall make little difference who holds, ostensibly, the reins of power, for ‘they’ are, many of them, to a greater or lesser degree, corrupted by that same power, and no more interested in truth or justice than those whom they would, playing to the ‘public’, appear to challenge.<br />
In which case, it is all but sham and pretense, ’sound and fury, signifying nothing’ …</p>
<p>Whatever the ‘truth’ our dilemma remains, but perhaps ‘cynicism’ is, ultimately, more vulnerable to ‘change’ than is the power of fear, with which we have all become far too-familiar of late.</p>
<p>The real question, which all of us here face, is this;  If the Democrats ‘win’, will it make any difference?</p>
<p>To be brutally honest, both your ‘theory’ and my worst-case ’speculation’, logically must argue, ‘NO!’</p>
<p>Were it otherwise, your ‘theory’ would require a mass confessional, which seems beyond ‘likely’; whereas my worst-case ’speculation’ would  offer both more power and the opportunity of yet more wealth, neither of which would engender ‘good’ change or a call to honesty.</p>
<p>Our best hope, so it seems to me, is that my lesser ’speculation’ describes our situation, for then there is at least the possibility, however slim, that ‘change’ which neither threatens or embarrasses over-much, may be embraced by those who frustrate us so universally …</p>
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		<title>By: JimTheCynic</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/the-right-wing-delusional-out-of-it-and-in-denial/#comment-1312105</link>
		<dc:creator>JimTheCynic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Of course. They’ve had 8 years. I’m sure with 8 years of phone transcripts and complet internet history I could find something so excrutiatingly embarrassing that you’d do just about anything to keep it quiet.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It only takes a few people to corrupt the group.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why is impeachment off the table?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course. They’ve had 8 years. I’m sure with 8 years of phone transcripts and complet internet history I could find something so excrutiatingly embarrassing that you’d do just about anything to keep it quiet.</p>
<p>It only takes a few people to corrupt the group.</p>
<p>Why is impeachment off the table?</p>
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		<title>By: DWBartoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>DWBartoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Don’t eat ‘em either but, be there a noodle beyond redemption?  Do not noodles also await the Rapture and transport to their own ‘heavenly mansions’ or at least, a ‘righteous’ end, a chance to make something of themselves in the sauce of their better selves?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do as you wish, but, in the better world we all would seek, all noodles are innocent until proven suseptible to brackmail or some such slimey connection as lobbying against the macaroni or supporting the endless occupation of spaghetti-land. Of course if ‘oil’ is involved we butter send them all to gitmo and let Dog sort them out.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don’t eat ‘em either but, be there a noodle beyond redemption?  Do not noodles also await the Rapture and transport to their own ‘heavenly mansions’ or at least, a ‘righteous’ end, a chance to make something of themselves in the sauce of their better selves?</p>
<p>Do as you wish, but, in the better world we all would seek, all noodles are innocent until proven suseptible to brackmail or some such slimey connection as lobbying against the macaroni or supporting the endless occupation of spaghetti-land. Of course if ‘oil’ is involved we butter send them all to gitmo and let Dog sort them out.</p>
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		<title>By: PLovering</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/the-right-wing-delusional-out-of-it-and-in-denial/#comment-1311989</link>
		<dc:creator>PLovering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Obama has sponsored the “Tax Haven Abuse Act” to recover monies Wall Street  Crooks have stashed away in offshore Pirate Islands.  There are some 12,000 of the Crooks in the Cayman Islands, alone, harboring derivatives worth $1Trillion.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There are 500$Trillions worth of these derivatives stashed in Pirate Islands around the world.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wall Street will be coming after Obama with both barrels blazing.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama has sponsored the “Tax Haven Abuse Act” to recover monies Wall Street  Crooks have stashed away in offshore Pirate Islands.  There are some 12,000 of the Crooks in the Cayman Islands, alone, harboring derivatives worth $1Trillion.  </p>
<p>There are 500$Trillions worth of these derivatives stashed in Pirate Islands around the world.  </p>
<p>Wall Street will be coming after Obama with both barrels blazing.</p>
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		<title>By: mack</title>
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		<dc:creator>mack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In 2004 we took our then 5 year-od daughter with us to the polling place.&lt;br /&gt;
She was very excited and called out to her girlfriend up the block&lt;br /&gt;
“We’re going to vote for John Kerry”&lt;br /&gt;
HEr little friend lookde puzzled&lt;br /&gt;
“The man who wants to kill the babies?”&lt;br /&gt;
Now, this a a sweet kid, and while we don’t have a ton in common with the parents, they are generally decent, young folks, both Army Vets.&lt;br /&gt;
They have a Ron Paul sign on the lawn this year.&lt;br /&gt;
^_^&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2004 we took our then 5 year-od daughter with us to the polling place.<br />
She was very excited and called out to her girlfriend up the block<br />
“We’re going to vote for John Kerry”<br />
HEr little friend lookde puzzled<br />
“The man who wants to kill the babies?”<br />
Now, this a a sweet kid, and while we don’t have a ton in common with the parents, they are generally decent, young folks, both Army Vets.<br />
They have a Ron Paul sign on the lawn this year.<br />
^_^</p>
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		<title>By: perris</title>
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		<dc:creator>perris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Actually, the price of gas has not gone up. The value of the dollar has gone down.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I do believe adjusted for inflation these are the highest prices ever paid for petro&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;however I agree with your point and I have been predicting this inflation for some time now thanx to the president printing money withouut reservation;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I buy product from canada and they say they are keeping prices the same this year but we are paying a much higher exchange rate&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have been predicting this for some time no&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Actually, the price of gas has not gone up. The value of the dollar has gone down.</p>
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<p>I do believe adjusted for inflation these are the highest prices ever paid for petro</p>
<p>however I agree with your point and I have been predicting this inflation for some time now thanx to the president printing money withouut reservation;</p>
<p>I buy product from canada and they say they are keeping prices the same this year but we are paying a much higher exchange rate</p>
<p>I have been predicting this for some time no</p>
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		<title>By: CTuttle</title>
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		<dc:creator>CTuttle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This is interesting…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;TX Primary: Final Early Vote Totals&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Over one million people voted early in Texas.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.burntorangereport.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=5258&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.burntorangereport.c.....aryId=5258&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is interesting…</p>
<blockquote><p>TX Primary: Final Early Vote Totals</p>
<p>Over one million people voted early in Texas.</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.burntorangereport.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=5258" rel="nofollow">http://www.burntorangereport.c&#8230;..aryId=5258</a></p>
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		<title>By: AstralTechnician</title>
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		<dc:creator>AstralTechnician</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Um…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The higher the price of fossil fuels, the higher the urge to conserve and not waste. A dammed good portion of this county’s fuel consumption is waste, so from a standpoint of inconvenient truths, I’m all for high fuel prices until folks get real about melting ice caps. Folks should have listened to Jimmy Carter.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That being said, the operative phrase should be “windfall profit taxes.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Obama/Dean 08&lt;br /&gt;
“Paradigm Change”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um…</p>
<p>The higher the price of fossil fuels, the higher the urge to conserve and not waste. A dammed good portion of this county’s fuel consumption is waste, so from a standpoint of inconvenient truths, I’m all for high fuel prices until folks get real about melting ice caps. Folks should have listened to Jimmy Carter.</p>
<p>That being said, the operative phrase should be “windfall profit taxes.”</p>
<p>Obama/Dean 08<br />
“Paradigm Change”</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Texan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blue Texan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hehindeedy!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehindeedy!</p>
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		<title>By: Badwater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Badwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 20:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Until they can change the subject of the election, what else can Republics like Matlin say?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until they can change the subject of the election, what else can Republics like Matlin say?</p>
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