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		<title>By: Annole</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/make-it-stop/#comment-1313997</link>
		<dc:creator>Annole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 04:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I received a letter yesterday from my Brooklyn, NY congressman Anthony Weiner dated February 26, 2008.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The entire letter is as follows:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank you for writing me regarding your opposition to retroactive amnesty for telecommunication companies under investigation for illegal wiretapping.  Please excuse the tardiness of this response. I agree with you.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Both the Bush Administration and these telecommunications companies knew that wiretapping without a warrant through FISA was illegal. Now they are being given protection from the constitution, a move which not only hurts the investigation, but stands in the face of justice.  Know that from my seat on the House Judiciary Committee I have fought against allowing immunity to these companies, and I have voted against it when it came before me.  Please be assured of my continued support on this important matter.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Again, thank you for contacting me.  Please do no hesitate to be in touch in the future on this or any other issue of concern.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;						Sincerely,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;						Anthony D. Weiner&lt;br /&gt;
						Member of Congress&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I received a letter yesterday from my Brooklyn, NY congressman Anthony Weiner dated February 26, 2008.</p>
<p>The entire letter is as follows:</p>
<p>Thank you for writing me regarding your opposition to retroactive amnesty for telecommunication companies under investigation for illegal wiretapping.  Please excuse the tardiness of this response. I agree with you.</p>
<p>Both the Bush Administration and these telecommunications companies knew that wiretapping without a warrant through FISA was illegal. Now they are being given protection from the constitution, a move which not only hurts the investigation, but stands in the face of justice.  Know that from my seat on the House Judiciary Committee I have fought against allowing immunity to these companies, and I have voted against it when it came before me.  Please be assured of my continued support on this important matter.</p>
<p>Again, thank you for contacting me.  Please do no hesitate to be in touch in the future on this or any other issue of concern.</p>
<p>						Sincerely,</p>
<p>						Anthony D. Weiner<br />
						Member of Congress</p>
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		<title>By: MsAnnaNOLA</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/make-it-stop/#comment-1312989</link>
		<dc:creator>MsAnnaNOLA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 02:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;NO kidding make it stop. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ok. Plan of action. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Every Dem who voted to gut our civil liberties gets targeted in the primary.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Particularly if there is no Dem winner tonight, pin down the candidates now. Make both of them promise to spearhead the repeal of this shockingly disgusting legislation next year. First thing they do in office, first 100 days in office. Repeal the retroactive immunity. Period. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There should be no waffling on this and no triangulation. This is nothing less than fulfiling their oath of office.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NO kidding make it stop. </p>
<p>Ok. Plan of action. </p>
<p>Every Dem who voted to gut our civil liberties gets targeted in the primary.</p>
<p>Particularly if there is no Dem winner tonight, pin down the candidates now. Make both of them promise to spearhead the repeal of this shockingly disgusting legislation next year. First thing they do in office, first 100 days in office. Repeal the retroactive immunity. Period. </p>
<p>There should be no waffling on this and no triangulation. This is nothing less than fulfiling their oath of office.</p>
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		<title>By: KayInMaine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/make-it-stop/#comment-1312741</link>
		<dc:creator>KayInMaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 01:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry to take so long to respond, Wordsmith. She’s probably sick and tired of blogging, no? We all get like that sometimes and need a break to regroup ourselves.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to take so long to respond, Wordsmith. She’s probably sick and tired of blogging, no? We all get like that sometimes and need a break to regroup ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: cboldt</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/make-it-stop/#comment-1312588</link>
		<dc:creator>cboldt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;– &lt;i&gt;and it goes double for the politicians of our own party, because they the ones who will try to fool us&lt;/i&gt; –&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m sure the Constitution was framed in a way so as to thwart the formation of political parties, but those widgets were amended out.  There were warnings aplenty about permitting power to coalesce in a central location, too, but the people didn’t pay attention to that either.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>– <i>and it goes double for the politicians of our own party, because they the ones who will try to fool us</i> –</p>
<p>I’m sure the Constitution was framed in a way so as to thwart the formation of political parties, but those widgets were amended out.  There were warnings aplenty about permitting power to coalesce in a central location, too, but the people didn’t pay attention to that either.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/make-it-stop/#comment-1312576</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;It’s foolish to trust governments or politicians. They are damn good liars, cheats and thieves. The cream of the crop, as it were.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;exactly right and very well said, imo.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and it goes double for the politicians of our own party, because they the ones who will try to fool us - the Rs don’t care what we think, they’re too busy trying to fool their own proles.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It’s foolish to trust governments or politicians. They are damn good liars, cheats and thieves. The cream of the crop, as it were.</p>
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<p>exactly right and very well said, imo.</p>
<p>and it goes double for the politicians of our own party, because they the ones who will try to fool us &#8211; the Rs don’t care what we think, they’re too busy trying to fool their own proles.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/make-it-stop/#comment-1312570</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i think dodd ought to have objected to the UC on jan 31, if he was to fulfill his promise.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;that said, i’m very grateful for what he did do, and i don’t regret sending his campaign two (sadly small) contributions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;but i’m not going to pretend he did something that he didn’t do.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think dodd ought to have objected to the UC on jan 31, if he was to fulfill his promise.</p>
<p>that said, i’m very grateful for what he did do, and i don’t regret sending his campaign two (sadly small) contributions.</p>
<p>but i’m not going to pretend he did something that he didn’t do.</p>
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		<title>By: cboldt</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/make-it-stop/#comment-1312547</link>
		<dc:creator>cboldt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don’t understand. I simply don’t understand, if something is good and if the President is willing to sign a bill which this Senator in his conscience feels is right, and it takes 15 days to do it, what the minority leader needs to understand–and he served in the House. I am sure he understands that they have now been jammed twice. They have been jammed. There is something called human nature, and it is not illegal to talk about human nature on the floor of the Senate. They have been jammed. They have been                                               pushed down to a 2-day period or a 3-day period when they had to make a decision. They resent that. But if they were given a period of time, they would come, in my judgment, to where we are, and the bill would go to the President and he would sign it. …
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Fifteen days. We are off for a week, so maybe it has to be 25 days. I don’t know. I don’t care about that. We could have the same bill on this floor from the House. I am convinced of it. It is human nature. Give them a chance to have a grudge. I am going    to meet with the chairman tomorrow. Let him rip into me for not giving the House an adequate chance for the second time to discuss this matter. But I am absolutely convinced that we could have that bill on the floor in this body and pass it and send it to the President. Why they don’t want to do that, I do not know.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/R?r110:FLD001:S51037&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Senator Rockefeller - Feb 14, 2008&lt;/a&gt; (Page 1037)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don’t understand. I simply don’t understand, if something is good and if the President is willing to sign a bill which this Senator in his conscience feels is right, and it takes 15 days to do it, what the minority leader needs to understand–and he served in the House. I am sure he understands that they have now been jammed twice. They have been jammed. There is something called human nature, and it is not illegal to talk about human nature on the floor of the Senate. They have been jammed. They have been                                               pushed down to a 2-day period or a 3-day period when they had to make a decision. They resent that. But if they were given a period of time, they would come, in my judgment, to where we are, and the bill would go to the President and he would sign it. …
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<p>Fifteen days. We are off for a week, so maybe it has to be 25 days. I don’t know. I don’t care about that. We could have the same bill on this floor from the House. I am convinced of it. It is human nature. Give them a chance to have a grudge. I am going    to meet with the chairman tomorrow. Let him rip into me for not giving the House an adequate chance for the second time to discuss this matter. But I am absolutely convinced that we could have that bill on the floor in this body and pass it and send it to the President. Why they don’t want to do that, I do not know.</p>
<p><a href="http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/R?r110:FLD001:S51037" rel="nofollow">Senator Rockefeller &#8211; Feb 14, 2008</a> (Page 1037)</p>
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		<title>By: Wordsmith</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/make-it-stop/#comment-1312540</link>
		<dc:creator>Wordsmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No.  I went to her blog one day, maybe 6 or more weeks ago, and it was there. Then a few weeks ago, nada. I’m bummed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No.  I went to her blog one day, maybe 6 or more weeks ago, and it was there. Then a few weeks ago, nada. I’m bummed.</p>
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		<title>By: cboldt</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/make-it-stop/#comment-1312503</link>
		<dc:creator>cboldt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Greenwald wrote:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;If the plan all along was to give Bush everything he wanted, as it obviously was, why not just do it at the beginning?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But he gave the answer earlier.  The House is pissed that the Senate and WH tried to jam the bill down their throats.  That sort of action is too strong and/or an obvious erosion of the principle (or illusion) of independent decision-making, and couldn’t be allowed to run without a fight.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Senator Rockefeller noted exactly this, a couple weeks ago when the House left town without taking up the bill, after the GOP (and WH) said “no frickin’ way” to an extension.  Rockefeller said (this is my paraphrase, not a direct quote) “the House is pissed because we tried to jam this, it’s human nature.  Give them time and an opportunity to save some face, they’ll come around and pass the Senate bill.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greenwald wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>If the plan all along was to give Bush everything he wanted, as it obviously was, why not just do it at the beginning?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>But he gave the answer earlier.  The House is pissed that the Senate and WH tried to jam the bill down their throats.  That sort of action is too strong and/or an obvious erosion of the principle (or illusion) of independent decision-making, and couldn’t be allowed to run without a fight.</p>
<p>Senator Rockefeller noted exactly this, a couple weeks ago when the House left town without taking up the bill, after the GOP (and WH) said “no frickin’ way” to an extension.  Rockefeller said (this is my paraphrase, not a direct quote) “the House is pissed because we tried to jam this, it’s human nature.  Give them time and an opportunity to save some face, they’ll come around and pass the Senate bill.”</p>
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		<title>By: cboldt</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/make-it-stop/#comment-1312467</link>
		<dc:creator>cboldt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 00:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;– &lt;i&gt;to really follow FISA well it is really disheartening&lt;/i&gt; –&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;FISA is just one more in a series of examples.  It’s foolish to trust governments or politicians.  They are damn good liars, cheats and thieves.  The cream of the crop, as it were.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>– <i>to really follow FISA well it is really disheartening</i> –</p>
<p>FISA is just one more in a series of examples.  It’s foolish to trust governments or politicians.  They are damn good liars, cheats and thieves.  The cream of the crop, as it were.</p>
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