Comments on: Late Late Nite FDL: A Town Called Heartbreak http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/late-late-nite-fdl-a-town-called-heartbreak/ Firedoglake weblog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:13:34 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: secularhumanizinevoluter http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/late-late-nite-fdl-a-town-called-heartbreak/#comment-1314950 secularhumanizinevoluter Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:14:24 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/late-late-nite-fdl-a-town-called-heartbreak/#comment-1314950 <p>The question is have the repugnatklaners pissed off and disgusted enough blue collar MURican voters with their stuPENdously corrupt, criminally incompetent, MURDEROUS regime and driven them into the Democratic Parties ranks to compensate for the obamazoids sitting this one out or even voting Repug? Throw into the mix the religo/wacko/MURicantalibaners sitting on their hands this election cycle. Face it, no matter WHO wins on the Dem side the supporters of the loser AIN’T gonna support the winner. So does EITHER Dem candidate bring enough uncommitted or independents to the table to win the general. Obama is just getting the first pebbles of the AVALANCHE of turds from Feces Mountain in the Rezko, NAFTA lie, etc. etc. etc. disaster as the MSM FINALLY turns the spotlight on him. Just one good attack add and ONE DAY of it cost him Texas. And that’s the kid glove add from a fellow DEMOCRAT. IMAGINE the adds the repugnantklan will run. It GAGS me to say it, but at this point I think the only hope the Dems have for a victory over John McFREAKINCain fer jeebus sakes id a Clinton/Obama ticket. Now don’t get me wrong, I think Obama is an empty suit. All the worst qualities of a politiol opportunist with no moral or ideological base outside of what’s best for Obama. But he DOES have minions of glassy eyed followers. And numbers are numbers. Edwards as AG sounds good, Gore for head of the EPA(can’t you just hear the repugs heads EXPLODING over THAT one?) Bill Clinton as Ambassador to the UN. How bout Valerie Plame as head of the CIA and Joe Willson as head of the State Dept.?</p> The question is have the repugnatklaners pissed off and disgusted enough blue collar MURican voters with their stuPENdously corrupt, criminally incompetent, MURDEROUS regime and driven them into the Democratic Parties ranks to compensate for the obamazoids sitting this one out or even voting Repug? Throw into the mix the religo/wacko/MURicantalibaners sitting on their hands this election cycle. Face it, no matter WHO wins on the Dem side the supporters of the loser AIN’T gonna support the winner. So does EITHER Dem candidate bring enough uncommitted or independents to the table to win the general. Obama is just getting the first pebbles of the AVALANCHE of turds from Feces Mountain in the Rezko, NAFTA lie, etc. etc. etc. disaster as the MSM FINALLY turns the spotlight on him. Just one good attack add and ONE DAY of it cost him Texas. And that’s the kid glove add from a fellow DEMOCRAT. IMAGINE the adds the repugnantklan will run. It GAGS me to say it, but at this point I think the only hope the Dems have for a victory over John McFREAKINCain fer jeebus sakes id a Clinton/Obama ticket. Now don’t get me wrong, I think Obama is an empty suit. All the worst qualities of a politiol opportunist with no moral or ideological base outside of what’s best for Obama. But he DOES have minions of glassy eyed followers. And numbers are numbers. Edwards as AG sounds good, Gore for head of the EPA(can’t you just hear the repugs heads EXPLODING over THAT one?) Bill Clinton as Ambassador to the UN. How bout Valerie Plame as head of the CIA and Joe Willson as head of the State Dept.?

]]> By: Arnie http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/late-late-nite-fdl-a-town-called-heartbreak/#comment-1314770 Arnie Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:42:00 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/late-late-nite-fdl-a-town-called-heartbreak/#comment-1314770 <p>NOT the St. Paddy’s of March, say it isn’t so!</p> <blockquote><p>Weather changes around mid month, you’ve got lots of time to stock the cupboards : )</p></blockquote> NOT the St. Paddy’s of March, say it isn’t so!

Weather changes around mid month, you’ve got lots of time to stock the cupboards : )

]]> By: Carlo http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/late-late-nite-fdl-a-town-called-heartbreak/#comment-1314752 Carlo Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:10:10 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/late-late-nite-fdl-a-town-called-heartbreak/#comment-1314752 <p>Oh, right, HRC would definitely have softer feelings on the FARC. A top priority of hers i’m sure.</p> Oh, right, HRC would definitely have softer feelings on the FARC. A top priority of hers i’m sure.

]]> By: RayDuray http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/late-late-nite-fdl-a-town-called-heartbreak/#comment-1314750 RayDuray Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:07:51 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/late-late-nite-fdl-a-town-called-heartbreak/#comment-1314750 <p>Speaking of Obama moving to the Left, it would appear that from his recent reaction to the assault on the FARC in Ecuador, <a href="http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/mar2008/sout-m05.shtml" rel="nofollow">Obama is solidly imperialist and right-wing on Latin policy</a>: </p> <p>[SNIP] </p> <p>Significantly, both of the candidates for the Democratic presidential nomination echoed Bush’s unconditional support for the right-wing government of Uribe and its aggression against Ecuador.</p> <p>Senator Hillary Clinton, speaking Tuesday to the Spanish-language television network Telemundo, asserted that “the Colombian state has the right to defend itself against terrorist drug-trafficking organizations which have kidnapped innocent citizens, including Americans.”</p> <p>She added, “In supporting the FARC, [Venezuelan President] Chavez is openly taking the side of illegal groups that are threatening Colombian democracy and the peace and security of the region.”</p> <p>Taking a nearly identical position, Senator <strong>Barak Obama</strong> issued a statement declaring, “The Colombian people have suffered more than four decades at the hands of a terrorist insurgency and the Colombian government has every right to defend itself against the FARC.”</p> <p>Neither of the Democrats evinced the slightest concern for the violation of Ecuador’s sovereignty, much less the suffering inflicted on the Colombian people by decades of massacres and assassinations perpetrated by the Colombian military and its allies in the right-wing paramilitary death squads.</p> <p>The message was unmistakable. No matter which party wins the White House in November, Washington’s pursuit of its strategic interests in Latin America by means of aggression and provocation will continue unabated… </p> <p>[END SNIP] </p> <p>RGD comment: OK, so I just spent the last four years getting up to speed on the actual issues between the FARC and the Bogata govenment in Columbia and found that they follow the classical pattern. People’s movement vs. Oligarchy, with the oligarchy totally in control of the media both in Columbia and in the U.S. </p> <p>Apparently Barack Obama is not quite as keen on <em>“Si, Se Puede”</em> activism and democratic movements as he might like us to believe. His assault on the FARC annoys me. Hillary Clinton’s attack, OTOH, is precisely what I’d expect from such an imperial aristocrat.</p> Speaking of Obama moving to the Left, it would appear that from his recent reaction to the assault on the FARC in Ecuador, Obama is solidly imperialist and right-wing on Latin policy:

[SNIP]

Significantly, both of the candidates for the Democratic presidential nomination echoed Bush’s unconditional support for the right-wing government of Uribe and its aggression against Ecuador.

Senator Hillary Clinton, speaking Tuesday to the Spanish-language television network Telemundo, asserted that “the Colombian state has the right to defend itself against terrorist drug-trafficking organizations which have kidnapped innocent citizens, including Americans.”

She added, “In supporting the FARC, [Venezuelan President] Chavez is openly taking the side of illegal groups that are threatening Colombian democracy and the peace and security of the region.”

Taking a nearly identical position, Senator Barak Obama issued a statement declaring, “The Colombian people have suffered more than four decades at the hands of a terrorist insurgency and the Colombian government has every right to defend itself against the FARC.”

Neither of the Democrats evinced the slightest concern for the violation of Ecuador’s sovereignty, much less the suffering inflicted on the Colombian people by decades of massacres and assassinations perpetrated by the Colombian military and its allies in the right-wing paramilitary death squads.

The message was unmistakable. No matter which party wins the White House in November, Washington’s pursuit of its strategic interests in Latin America by means of aggression and provocation will continue unabated…

[END SNIP]

RGD comment: OK, so I just spent the last four years getting up to speed on the actual issues between the FARC and the Bogata govenment in Columbia and found that they follow the classical pattern. People’s movement vs. Oligarchy, with the oligarchy totally in control of the media both in Columbia and in the U.S.

Apparently Barack Obama is not quite as keen on “Si, Se Puede” activism and democratic movements as he might like us to believe. His assault on the FARC annoys me. Hillary Clinton’s attack, OTOH, is precisely what I’d expect from such an imperial aristocrat.

]]> By: Carlo http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/late-late-nite-fdl-a-town-called-heartbreak/#comment-1314748 Carlo Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:05:05 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/late-late-nite-fdl-a-town-called-heartbreak/#comment-1314748 <p>Pipe dreams. If she wins the nomination it is over. Implacable emnity. HRC is a Republican now. I might abstain in November. It is the only solution to the stranglehold that the Clinton’s now have on the party. Maybe it’s the beginning of a useful split. I don’t trust Hillary to follow through on anything she has promised in any manner.</p> Pipe dreams. If she wins the nomination it is over. Implacable emnity. HRC is a Republican now. I might abstain in November. It is the only solution to the stranglehold that the Clinton’s now have on the party. Maybe it’s the beginning of a useful split. I don’t trust Hillary to follow through on anything she has promised in any manner.

]]> By: TJ http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/late-late-nite-fdl-a-town-called-heartbreak/#comment-1314747 TJ Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:02:47 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/late-late-nite-fdl-a-town-called-heartbreak/#comment-1314747 <p>You are a courageous hero, Suzanne.</p> You are a courageous hero, Suzanne.

]]> By: Suzanne http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/late-late-nite-fdl-a-town-called-heartbreak/#comment-1314743 Suzanne Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:01:25 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/late-late-nite-fdl-a-town-called-heartbreak/#comment-1314743 <p>yeah, <a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/05/a-renewal-of-vows/" rel="nofollow">attaturks upstairs</a> and i can now rest my tired fingers.</p> <p>g’nite all and thanks for hanging with me tonight</p> yeah, attaturks upstairs and i can now rest my tired fingers.

g’nite all and thanks for hanging with me tonight

]]> By: Suzanne http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/late-late-nite-fdl-a-town-called-heartbreak/#comment-1314740 Suzanne Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:00:24 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/late-late-nite-fdl-a-town-called-heartbreak/#comment-1314740 <p>those are not irrational fears. we just have to be very very careful when discussing that subject. it is a subject that we will have to learn how to talk about - just as we have done with other sensitive subjects.</p> <p>i am going to wait and take my cue from jane on this subject - and when i’m tired after a primary nite is probably not the night for me to start.</p> those are not irrational fears. we just have to be very very careful when discussing that subject. it is a subject that we will have to learn how to talk about – just as we have done with other sensitive subjects.

i am going to wait and take my cue from jane on this subject – and when i’m tired after a primary nite is probably not the night for me to start.

]]> By: ThingsComeUndone http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/late-late-nite-fdl-a-town-called-heartbreak/#comment-1314739 ThingsComeUndone Wed, 05 Mar 2008 09:00:10 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/late-late-nite-fdl-a-town-called-heartbreak/#comment-1314739 <p>I am open to suggestions the more Left the better the VP choice for Obama as far as I’m concerned.</p> I am open to suggestions the more Left the better the VP choice for Obama as far as I’m concerned.

]]> By: Fern http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/late-late-nite-fdl-a-town-called-heartbreak/#comment-1314738 Fern Wed, 05 Mar 2008 08:59:13 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/04/late-late-nite-fdl-a-town-called-heartbreak/#comment-1314738 <p>I think your point has been clearly made.</p> I think your point has been clearly made.

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