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		<title>By: zuzu</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/03/tongue-in-cheek-nice-try/#comment-1310717</link>
		<dc:creator>zuzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 03:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Given the ridiculous assertions made by Allen in her last WaPo article, wherein she discouraged people from completing advance directives because they were the product of the “intellectual elite” and we should damn well die  the old fashioned way…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/12/AR2007101201882.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01882.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Pomfret is either ignorant or dishonest when he claims he had no idea she was so controversial.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the ridiculous assertions made by Allen in her last WaPo article, wherein she discouraged people from completing advance directives because they were the product of the “intellectual elite” and we should damn well die  the old fashioned way…</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/12/AR2007101201882.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/&#8230;..01882.html</a></p>
<p>Pomfret is either ignorant or dishonest when he claims he had no idea she was so controversial.</p>
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		<title>By: brendanx</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/03/tongue-in-cheek-nice-try/#comment-1310627</link>
		<dc:creator>brendanx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 02:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There’s a lot more a “Hillary” presidency could “vaporize”.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank her for the war for me.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There’s a lot more a “Hillary” presidency could “vaporize”.  </p>
<p>Thank her for the war for me.</p>
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		<title>By: brendanx</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/03/tongue-in-cheek-nice-try/#comment-1310625</link>
		<dc:creator>brendanx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 02:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Reread the piece, if you dare.  This witless, reactionary shit is also cover for mocking the two Democratic candidates.  It’s not meant to “offend everyone.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reread the piece, if you dare.  This witless, reactionary shit is also cover for mocking the two Democratic candidates.  It’s not meant to “offend everyone.”</p>
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		<title>By: jussumbody</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/03/tongue-in-cheek-nice-try/#comment-1310530</link>
		<dc:creator>jussumbody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 01:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I didn’t find the sexism as offensive as I found her general mindlessness  depressing (because it’s so common).  I’m pretty sure she thought she was clever in offending as many groups as she could.  Most her her sexism is just run of the mill stuff that people think is cute.  She probably fancies herself Paglia-esque.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But she sure is an embarrassment to her gender (not to mention carbon based lifeforms everywhere).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn’t find the sexism as offensive as I found her general mindlessness  depressing (because it’s so common).  I’m pretty sure she thought she was clever in offending as many groups as she could.  Most her her sexism is just run of the mill stuff that people think is cute.  She probably fancies herself Paglia-esque.  </p>
<p>But she sure is an embarrassment to her gender (not to mention carbon based lifeforms everywhere).</p>
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		<title>By: KayInMaine</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/03/tongue-in-cheek-nice-try/#comment-1310358</link>
		<dc:creator>KayInMaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Would it be strange to suggest that it’s possible Charlotte Allen wears a strap-on to work. Just saying…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would it be strange to suggest that it’s possible Charlotte Allen wears a strap-on to work. Just saying…</p>
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		<title>By: SueN</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/03/tongue-in-cheek-nice-try/#comment-1310204</link>
		<dc:creator>SueN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ridiculous commentary by Ms. Allen. I’m not sure if the following superb piece by Christine Craft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Craft) in the SF Chronicle got much publicity:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The hidden ‘ism’&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Christine Craft&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Friday, February 29, 2008&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;America feigns pride these days as it prepares to ditch sexism and racism by nominating a woman or a black man as a serious contender for the presidency. Pundits on the left predict that, finally, in 2008 voters will vitalize the constitutional dream that any American can achieve the top office. From the right, we hear, “Just not these two!”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But hold the cuddly feeling.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While sexism hasn’t had the same hideous history of lynchings as its companion “ism,” the case can be made that gender bias is even more prevalent, more accepted, more insidious and more likely to die a drawn-out death. The presidential campaign of Hillary Rodham Clinton is this thesis writ large.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It goes way beyond the insults about Hillary’s un-anorectic ankles if she wears skirts and guffaws when she favors pantsuits. It goes beyond Chris Matthews’ open misogyny on the aptly named “Hardball” when he claims Hillary owes her Senate elections to her husband’s womanizing. He says it accusingly as if Hillary had been the one on her knees. I don’t know what it means when Matthews claims to get “tingling” up his leg when he hears Obama speak.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It goes beyond the criticism leveled at Hillary when her talk turns tough and passionate. That’s the cue to decry her “shrillness,” a polite wink-wink way of saying she is a shrew and a bitch. If she gets a watery eye, it’s either phony or a sign of weakness, not just being human. She is amazingly controlled as a top executive should be, but that’s “coldness.” When her desire to win is the topic, she is sneeringly called “ambitious” as if a would-be president could be anything but.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The debate this week in Cleveland contained examples of the hidden “ism.” Hillary took just umbrage at Obama’s characterization of her supposed cheerleading for NAFTA, a cruel policy for Ohio. On CNN, when former Reagan and Clinton communications director David Gergen defended her as being part of the internal debate he observed at the White House and said she had been a strong voice warning of its potential dangers, the rest of the media and Obama paid no attention. What? Do we expect that the then first lady should have called a press conference to denounce her husband’s NAFTA advocacy? What would she have been called then? Uppity? Obama is of course no fool in any of this. If the hidden, insidious “ism” benefits him, he won’t be objecting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The next day, I watched a quartet of Fox News women in their stilettos and push-up bras pretend to be enraged feminists when discussing Hillary’s “whining” to NBC’s Brian Williams about always being asked the first question. The Fox anchor-ettes said it was an insult to their hard-won position as professional women. They missed the point that those hosting presidential debates have always varied the order of questions to male contenders out of fundamental journalistic fairness.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It is further alarming when the hidden “ism” flourishes in the voice of a female national radio host. Randi Rhodes of “progressive” Air America blithely jokes about Hillary’s reproductive equipment and the size of her necklace beads. I see also the faux outrage over superdelegates because this long tradition may benefit Sen. Clinton. Time to change the rules. Then there’s the age thing. The early 60s have long been thought to be the perfect age for an American president, not too old, not too young. Suddenly we have to change the rules. Hillary is too old.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;History will record whether American women seize their moment or not. But no one should pretend that gender bias isn’t alive and well. Hillary’s campaign has shown it, and I salute her resilience, knowing as she must that many who would reject any scintilla of overt racism would and do easily accommodate the other hidden “ism.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was taken aback years ago when I had a conversation with Anita Hill. She told me the most disheartening turn of her righteous objection to the coronation of Clarence Thomas had been the attacks she bore from women. She saw all too clearly then that women were the last n-words, conditioned to denigrate their own kind.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A Hillary presidency could vaporize much of that inequity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It was vastly underreported when she kicked butt in California by more than nine percentage points. Right now she leads in Ohio, but you’d never know it. Are you ready to HOPE for a CHANGE? My hand across my ample bosom, I’ll settle for a miracle.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ridiculous commentary by Ms. Allen. I’m not sure if the following superb piece by Christine Craft (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Craft" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Craft</a>) in the SF Chronicle got much publicity:</p>
<p><strong>The hidden ‘ism’</strong></p>
<p>Christine Craft</p>
<p>Friday, February 29, 2008</p>
<p>America feigns pride these days as it prepares to ditch sexism and racism by nominating a woman or a black man as a serious contender for the presidency. Pundits on the left predict that, finally, in 2008 voters will vitalize the constitutional dream that any American can achieve the top office. From the right, we hear, “Just not these two!”</p>
<p>But hold the cuddly feeling.</p>
<p>While sexism hasn’t had the same hideous history of lynchings as its companion “ism,” the case can be made that gender bias is even more prevalent, more accepted, more insidious and more likely to die a drawn-out death. The presidential campaign of Hillary Rodham Clinton is this thesis writ large.</p>
<p>It goes way beyond the insults about Hillary’s un-anorectic ankles if she wears skirts and guffaws when she favors pantsuits. It goes beyond Chris Matthews’ open misogyny on the aptly named “Hardball” when he claims Hillary owes her Senate elections to her husband’s womanizing. He says it accusingly as if Hillary had been the one on her knees. I don’t know what it means when Matthews claims to get “tingling” up his leg when he hears Obama speak.</p>
<p>It goes beyond the criticism leveled at Hillary when her talk turns tough and passionate. That’s the cue to decry her “shrillness,” a polite wink-wink way of saying she is a shrew and a bitch. If she gets a watery eye, it’s either phony or a sign of weakness, not just being human. She is amazingly controlled as a top executive should be, but that’s “coldness.” When her desire to win is the topic, she is sneeringly called “ambitious” as if a would-be president could be anything but.</p>
<p>The debate this week in Cleveland contained examples of the hidden “ism.” Hillary took just umbrage at Obama’s characterization of her supposed cheerleading for NAFTA, a cruel policy for Ohio. On CNN, when former Reagan and Clinton communications director David Gergen defended her as being part of the internal debate he observed at the White House and said she had been a strong voice warning of its potential dangers, the rest of the media and Obama paid no attention. What? Do we expect that the then first lady should have called a press conference to denounce her husband’s NAFTA advocacy? What would she have been called then? Uppity? Obama is of course no fool in any of this. If the hidden, insidious “ism” benefits him, he won’t be objecting.</p>
<p>The next day, I watched a quartet of Fox News women in their stilettos and push-up bras pretend to be enraged feminists when discussing Hillary’s “whining” to NBC’s Brian Williams about always being asked the first question. The Fox anchor-ettes said it was an insult to their hard-won position as professional women. They missed the point that those hosting presidential debates have always varied the order of questions to male contenders out of fundamental journalistic fairness.</p>
<p>It is further alarming when the hidden “ism” flourishes in the voice of a female national radio host. Randi Rhodes of “progressive” Air America blithely jokes about Hillary’s reproductive equipment and the size of her necklace beads. I see also the faux outrage over superdelegates because this long tradition may benefit Sen. Clinton. Time to change the rules. Then there’s the age thing. The early 60s have long been thought to be the perfect age for an American president, not too old, not too young. Suddenly we have to change the rules. Hillary is too old.</p>
<p>History will record whether American women seize their moment or not. But no one should pretend that gender bias isn’t alive and well. Hillary’s campaign has shown it, and I salute her resilience, knowing as she must that many who would reject any scintilla of overt racism would and do easily accommodate the other hidden “ism.”</p>
<p>I was taken aback years ago when I had a conversation with Anita Hill. She told me the most disheartening turn of her righteous objection to the coronation of Clarence Thomas had been the attacks she bore from women. She saw all too clearly then that women were the last n-words, conditioned to denigrate their own kind.</p>
<p>A Hillary presidency could vaporize much of that inequity.</p>
<p>It was vastly underreported when she kicked butt in California by more than nine percentage points. Right now she leads in Ohio, but you’d never know it. Are you ready to HOPE for a CHANGE? My hand across my ample bosom, I’ll settle for a miracle.</p>
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		<title>By: brendanx</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/03/tongue-in-cheek-nice-try/#comment-1310109</link>
		<dc:creator>brendanx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My letter, &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:outlook@washpost.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;outlook@washpost.com&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:ombudsman@washpost.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ombudsman@washpost.com&lt;/a&gt; &amp; &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:letters@washpost.com:&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;letters@washpost.com:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hackneyed dichotomies, stereotyping, argument by anecdote and pseudo-science aside, why did the Post give Charlotte Allen a platform for anything without revealing her political resume (”We Scream, We Swoon…”)?  Readers should know, for example, that Allen is a contributor to the right-wing “Independent Women’s Forum”, whose directors have included Lynne Cheney and Katie O’Bierne.  The author’s curdled misogyny is offensive and her seemingly incidental mockery of the Democratic candidates is devious, but it might have at least been illuminating if the Post had made the Republican Party’s implicit approval of this reactionary sexism clear.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My letter, <a href="mailto:outlook@washpost.com" rel="nofollow">outlook@washpost.com</a>, <a href="mailto:ombudsman@washpost.com" rel="nofollow">ombudsman@washpost.com</a> &amp; <a href="mailto:letters@washpost.com:" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="mailto:letters@washpost.com">letters@washpost.com</a>:</p>
<p>Hackneyed dichotomies, stereotyping, argument by anecdote and pseudo-science aside, why did the Post give Charlotte Allen a platform for anything without revealing her political resume (”We Scream, We Swoon…”)?  Readers should know, for example, that Allen is a contributor to the right-wing “Independent Women’s Forum”, whose directors have included Lynne Cheney and Katie O’Bierne.  The author’s curdled misogyny is offensive and her seemingly incidental mockery of the Democratic candidates is devious, but it might have at least been illuminating if the Post had made the Republican Party’s implicit approval of this reactionary sexism clear.</p>
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		<title>By: someofparts</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/03/tongue-in-cheek-nice-try/#comment-1310103</link>
		<dc:creator>someofparts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just came from the deep within the comments that followed a post by Rebecca Walker at Huffington Post. I found myself in the middle of a boatload of people who were utterly clueless about feminism.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Getting back to FDL feels like getting back out into the sunshine.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just came from the deep within the comments that followed a post by Rebecca Walker at Huffington Post. I found myself in the middle of a boatload of people who were utterly clueless about feminism.</p>
<p>Getting back to FDL feels like getting back out into the sunshine.</p>
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		<title>By: CitizenE</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/03/tongue-in-cheek-nice-try/#comment-1310082</link>
		<dc:creator>CitizenE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What would we do without you Jane. Our sentry and inspiration.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would we do without you Jane. Our sentry and inspiration.</p>
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		<title>By: PLovering</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/03/tongue-in-cheek-nice-try/#comment-1310078</link>
		<dc:creator>PLovering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Well, at least WoPo didn’t get into Gender IQ Studies.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, at least WoPo didn’t get into Gender IQ Studies.</p>
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