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	<title>Comments on: More Comedy Gold From Charlotte Allen</title>
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		<title>By: wobblybits</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/03/more-comedy-gold-from-charlotte-allen/#comment-1310510</link>
		<dc:creator>wobblybits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 01:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;still scratching my head over Duran Duran scholar.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: akak</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/03/more-comedy-gold-from-charlotte-allen/#comment-1310421</link>
		<dc:creator>akak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 00:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i clicked through the&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/589bfhgz.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; weekly standard &lt;/a&gt;link for one of the articles and couldn’t help noticing the WS cover featured there with william buckley looking positively hitlerian!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i clicked through the<a href="http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/589bfhgz.asp" rel="nofollow"> weekly standard </a>link for one of the articles and couldn’t help noticing the WS cover featured there with william buckley looking positively hitlerian!</p>
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		<title>By: Valley Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valley Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 00:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;s- don’t think “on deadline” is a viable out, bec. this woman has been writing this type of hit piece for a long time.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>s- don’t think “on deadline” is a viable out, bec. this woman has been writing this type of hit piece for a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Valley Girl</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/03/more-comedy-gold-from-charlotte-allen/#comment-1310410</link>
		<dc:creator>Valley Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 00:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the comments, Kirk.  I hope you are correct.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I remember, alas, the comments of Nancy Hopkins of MIT, who headed the study of the fate of women faculty in science at MIT- which indeed showed that women don’t get a fair shake.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Quoting from memory, but she said something to the effect that every generation of women thinks (when they are young and new to the game) that the problem of discrimination has been solved.  And, then they discover that they have to fight the same battles all over again.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments, Kirk.  I hope you are correct.</p>
<p>I remember, alas, the comments of Nancy Hopkins of MIT, who headed the study of the fate of women faculty in science at MIT- which indeed showed that women don’t get a fair shake.</p>
<p>Quoting from memory, but she said something to the effect that every generation of women thinks (when they are young and new to the game) that the problem of discrimination has been solved.  And, then they discover that they have to fight the same battles all over again.</p>
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		<title>By: Strategerie</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/03/more-comedy-gold-from-charlotte-allen/#comment-1310404</link>
		<dc:creator>Strategerie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 00:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ahh, Charlotte Adams. When in doubt (and on deadline, with no apparent salable idea in mind,) stab one’s gender in the back.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Can’t wait to read the retraction that won’t be coming as a result of this.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;-S&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, Charlotte Adams. When in doubt (and on deadline, with no apparent salable idea in mind,) stab one’s gender in the back.</p>
<p>Can’t wait to read the retraction that won’t be coming as a result of this.</p>
<p>-S</p>
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		<title>By: ironranger</title>
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		<dc:creator>ironranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;How the hell does someone cancel her employee’s health insurance with no notice? That’s really low.&lt;br /&gt;
 Now there’s a woman that sounds like someone Charlotte Allen would find compatible.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How the hell does someone cancel her employee’s health insurance with no notice? That’s really low.<br />
 Now there’s a woman that sounds like someone Charlotte Allen would find compatible.</p>
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		<title>By: kirk  murphy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/03/03/more-comedy-gold-from-charlotte-allen/#comment-1310386</link>
		<dc:creator>kirk  murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Valley Girl, I look forward to that time, too.  FWIW, I do find the values you (and I) seek in the vast majority of the UC med students I’ve seen the last 15 or so years…(including 100% of the UCSF students).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think we’ll both live to experience that time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Of course, I’m just on the clinical side - I still believe sexism hammers academic (like other) women by denying funding, opportunity, tenure, and power.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valley Girl, I look forward to that time, too.  FWIW, I do find the values you (and I) seek in the vast majority of the UC med students I’ve seen the last 15 or so years…(including 100% of the UCSF students).</p>
<p>I think we’ll both live to experience that time.</p>
<p>Of course, I’m just on the clinical side &#8211; I still believe sexism hammers academic (like other) women by denying funding, opportunity, tenure, and power.</p>
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		<title>By: Valley Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valley Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I remember the odious Charlotte Allen from odious hit piece she did on female scientists during the Harvard/ Summers blow up.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As a female scientist who has fought long and hard to survive in a man’s world, that whole episode was deeply discouraging.  If I didn’t have tenure, I probably would have quit science.  And, sad to say, I would never encourage a young woman to take that career path.  I was so upset in fact that saved every single newspaper article re: that in .pdf format.  I have a CD of them all.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Allen’s article (see link from MadamemoiselleJ)  was one of the worst, but definitely not the only one of its ilk.  There’s a lot that attitude about.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tongue in cheek?  You know, Pomfit probably believes this.  Because bashing women is funny haha.  Just like jokes about blacks used to be so “funny”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Heads up- hate speech against women (generic, but not by the legal definition, alas) is still fine and dandy.  Whereas racism does get slapped down.  Just try rewriting that column imagining it was written by a black person, saying blacks are dumb, bad drivers, etc.  and its hatefulness is apparent.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I look forward to the time when it is every bit as unacceptable to bash women as it is to do race bashing/ racism.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the odious Charlotte Allen from odious hit piece she did on female scientists during the Harvard/ Summers blow up.  </p>
<p>As a female scientist who has fought long and hard to survive in a man’s world, that whole episode was deeply discouraging.  If I didn’t have tenure, I probably would have quit science.  And, sad to say, I would never encourage a young woman to take that career path.  I was so upset in fact that saved every single newspaper article re: that in .pdf format.  I have a CD of them all.  </p>
<p>Allen’s article (see link from MadamemoiselleJ)  was one of the worst, but definitely not the only one of its ilk.  There’s a lot that attitude about.  </p>
<p>Tongue in cheek?  You know, Pomfit probably believes this.  Because bashing women is funny haha.  Just like jokes about blacks used to be so “funny”.</p>
<p>Heads up- hate speech against women (generic, but not by the legal definition, alas) is still fine and dandy.  Whereas racism does get slapped down.  Just try rewriting that column imagining it was written by a black person, saying blacks are dumb, bad drivers, etc.  and its hatefulness is apparent.</p>
<p>I look forward to the time when it is every bit as unacceptable to bash women as it is to do race bashing/ racism.</p>
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		<title>By: kirk  murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>kirk  murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:46:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;(((ccmask)))&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Crap - just reading down thread.  Agree - they would be crazy to let you go.  (delusional lack of judgement).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So hope everything is OK for you there.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(((ccmask)))</p>
<p>Crap &#8211; just reading down thread.  Agree &#8211; they would be crazy to let you go.  (delusional lack of judgement).</p>
<p>So hope everything is OK for you there.</p>
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		<title>By: kirk  murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>kirk  murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Bush signed an executive order on Friday, gutting the Intelligence Oversight Board (all agencies now will report directly to McConnell) per smintheus and another order (not sure when) controlling the release of presidential docs BIG time How long before we get to call this a fascist govt for reals?
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The sun’s out, the flowers in Golden Gate Park are intoxicating, the day is warm…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What better day to start?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The wealthy have private soldiers, the private have five voices, one of five children goes privately hungry, one in three people suffer without care, two million families will lose their homes, one in a hundred own half, thousands of fortunes buy four hundred and thirty five…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So that one in a hundred own half:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The private own five voices.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Five - or more - Robes serve the thousands of fortunes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Four hundred and thirty five bestow billions on thousands of fortunes &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Two million families will lose their homes&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One in three suffer without care.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One in five children privately hungry.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And the wealthy have private soldiers. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So that one in one hundred keep half.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What better day to start?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Fascist govt - for reals.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;It sure wears an ugly face.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Bush signed an executive order on Friday, gutting the Intelligence Oversight Board (all agencies now will report directly to McConnell) per smintheus and another order (not sure when) controlling the release of presidential docs BIG time How long before we get to call this a fascist govt for reals?
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<p>The sun’s out, the flowers in Golden Gate Park are intoxicating, the day is warm…</p>
<p>What better day to start?</p>
<p>And….</p>
<blockquote><p>The wealthy have private soldiers, the private have five voices, one of five children goes privately hungry, one in three people suffer without care, two million families will lose their homes, one in a hundred own half, thousands of fortunes buy four hundred and thirty five…</p>
<p>So that one in a hundred own half:</p>
<p>The private own five voices.</p>
<p>Five &#8211; or more &#8211; Robes serve the thousands of fortunes.</p>
<p>Four hundred and thirty five bestow billions on thousands of fortunes </p>
<p>Two million families will lose their homes</p>
<p>One in three suffer without care.</p>
<p>One in five children privately hungry.</p>
<p>And the wealthy have private soldiers. </p>
<p>So that one in one hundred keep half.</p>
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<p>What better day to start?</p>
<p>Fascist govt &#8211; for reals.</p>
<p><em>It sure wears an ugly face.</em></p>
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