'Morning, everyone! I'm subbing for Christy today, so I and the catboys here thought we'd round up some news cats for you.
Hey, Tim Russert! As long as we're vetting pastors here, Dave Neiwert and my Mercury Rising co-blogger Charles respectfully suggest that you extend your wondrous journalistic skills beyond Obama's pastor to look at John McCain's pastor, Dan Yeary -- whose sermons are online, as Charles notes. (FDL readers: How much you wanna bet the words "Dan Yeary" never even pass Timmeh's lips?)
Speaking of Tim Russert: Remember Jane's challenge from yesterday? Guess who didn't take her up on it? (Hint: Jack Welch apparently boasts of banging any progressive notions out of him, thus making him into the perfect corporate servant.)
And speaking of John McCain, a guy who really wants to be his running mate has been buffing up his conservative anti-tax credentials so thoroughly that the state he's supposed to be governing is falling apart because of it. Way to go, Tim Pawlenty!
From the Iowa Independent (h/t to Norwegianity and the Washington Independent), we hear that Iowa is now the 17th state to refuse Bush's cherished Title V, Section 510 funding for abstinence-only sex education. This is because, as anyone with a functioning brain and without paychecks from the anti-sex lobby can tell you, abstinence-only sex education is a big fat failure.
In a good sign that online journalism is starting to thrive, Minnesota Monitor is hiring. (They've probably got all the applications they need right now; I just posted this to show that in an era when the big papers are slashing staff and budgets, online media is starting to add to same.)
So what news cats have skittered under your sofas today?
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Fitz!
in Christy’s case it was fritzed
Speaking of Jane’s challenge from Stirring McCain’s Hagee Pot, I wonder where Bill Donahue is? They had him all over the airwaves when he was going after those two bloggers who supported Edwards. I guess they’re not going to let him on to go after St. John of Maverick.
small typo 5th para: “because of this. Way to go, Tim Pawlenty!”
seriously, Way to go Pawlenty
Yeah, I just hope she recovers in time to live-blog the Rezko trial tomorrow!
Fodder-At a party last night, and after a couple, it occurred to me to ask a Republican I was talking to the following question: “It is my understanding that John McCain wrote of attempting suicide while a tortured prisoner. Under what other circumstances would we even consider a person who had attempted suicide for President? And considering that-why would we excuse that in this case?” He had no answer.
Some of you are old enough to remember Thomas Eagleton who was for a time Mondale’s running mate until it was revealed that he had been under therapy. Then he was gone. What do you all think?
Actually, Thomas Eagleton was George McGovern’s original running mate in ‘72 until the information came out about his treatment. McGovern initially tried to stay with Eagleton (”I back him One thousand per cent”) but eventually dropped him for Sargeant Shriver.
I think all the lobbyists that work for McCain would carry more weight with voters as an issue.
All state budgets are in disarray and getting worse quickly. The same goes for the Federal Government. In the last two weeks the Treasury has had to borrow about $100 billion dollars more than planned by issuing special Cash Management BIlls. The mechanics of Treasury borrowing and how they plan for it I won’t go into but there is a stupendous fiscal crisis now unfolding at every level of government which is just part of the unfolding financial crisis. I fully expect the deficit to reach near a trillion in 2010. Nuts you say? Just wait and see.
When the depression comes this time there isn’t going to be any stinking New Deal people. The Norquist dream is now going to be realized.
Never trust someone who promises more than 100% support for you, even a “good guy” like McGovern.
Seriously. Is Christy o.k.? I’ve had almost no time at all to enjoy the Lake this past week. I hope she’s just sleepin’ in - something she richly deserves.
Yeah, that was my introduction to the feet of clay aspect of even the best politician.
I think you may be on the mark there.
The GOP is cutting and running on the flaming turd that Bush has lit on our collective doorstep.
They plan on sitting in the shrubs and screaming about how awful everything has become under the ‘Democrat party’.
So predictable.
-G
so, have i killed 2 threads in a row, now? *sniffs armpits*
Of course you are right-Doh I even Googled it to check before I posted and still blew it. I told you I had a couple!
She just fried her laptop, not herself. She hosted book salon yesterday but I think she’s sharing a machine while her’s is being reparied.
Poor Eagleton lost McGovern’s support by about 500% a day over the next two days after that statement.
-G
She fried her computer. There was some talk in the previous thread about trying to get her a Mac. (Noooooooooooooo!)
eorge Stephanopolus and Howard Wolfson joined the crowd showing his ignorance–he said Obama’s Committee didn’t hold hearings on Afghanistan. And he kept persisting. Only one problem for ole political science Columbia summa cum laude George.
He didn’t hold a hearing on Afghanistan because in fact his sub Committee does not have jurisdicition over Afghanistan. It’s a European sub. Afghanistan is not in Europe. If they knew what they were talking about as far as the Senate, the Committee that is charged with being responsible for Afghanistan and holding any hearings on it is not Obama’s it’s in fact Senator John Kerry’s.
Subcommittee Senate Foreign Relations: Kerry’s Committee is Near Eastern and South and Central Asian Affairs Not Obama’s
Clinton will soon leave the campaign trail arrogantly having refused to answer many questions that appeared once again in yesterday’s NYT’s that I have been asking for months and have yet to appear in the FDL log vetting her that would never happen–among them
1) Why did you refuse to release tax returns? On or around April 15 Senator Clinton will not be part of the primary campaign. It will be long over by Wednesday.
2) Where did the $5 million come from that you poured into your campaign? The information disclosed to the Senate is nothing like a tax release and it is purposefully vague by requirement of the Senate who doesn’t want to release their returns.
3) Who are the museum contributors?
4) Why won’t you release your WH documnets including your secret health care plan docs. There are 1.6 million of them discovered after you claimed as far as you knew they were released.
When Russert hit her with the tax returns (I suppose of course she was being bashed in the debates unequally) she again said “I might release them” With a day left in her viable campaign that ship has sailed. April 15 is not going to have much relevance to a primary campaign or a general campaign that will not exist for her.
It seems the print media are asking many of the exact same questions I have been for months and months:
When you’re in Bosnia, and your husband is President, and you’re warned snipers are around and the Secret Service moves your husband’s welcoming speech, I’m sorry that doesn’t qualify for foreign policy experience any more that the groupies for the Rolling Stones qualify as singers or someone who received a gun shot wound to the abdomen last night or a knife wound to the abdomen qualifies as a surgeon.
The 3AM phone call commercial says to me–”we think your really stupid so here’s this commercial.” Sorry–too many of us aren’t buying. The only crisis managment Clinton has had has been over the scandles generated by her and her husband in White Water and Monicagate.
On the Press Bus, Some Questions Over Favoritism
McCain Channels His Inner Hillary
A Wake Up Call: The Red Phone Fairy Tale that America is Not Dumb Enough to Buy
(Yesssssssssssssssssssssssss!) *g*
The London Guardian this morning -
One of my favorite concepts that demonstrates complete insanity is collective punishment. When in history has this worked? Hummmm! Let me think. Never. But it surely makes a whole lot of people damned mad for generations and one day they strike back.
How do you “fry” a computer? Most of the time when someone says that–it’s in the software realm on a Windows box, and fixable unless that HD has totally failed as opposed to being able to restore the magnitism, or the CPU has been blown.
lol, no, not a mac/pc pie fight!!!
Last I’ll say on the subject today but that one was just sittin’ there to hit outta the ballpark. *g*
Whew. Thanks! She and Peanut have quite a time in the nasty winter weather. Worries the momma in me. *blush*
oh dearie me. i’m not up to this.
Hi Petie! And Society(of-friends)Girl! How’s it goin? scuse me while i read for the next millenium. i will be back in a bit.
wondered what fried that laptop. thanks petey. hmmm.
more coffee…..
Naw–I never get in the MAC/PC fights. I love Macs but am a Windows software junkie. But I’ve had enough friends call and say my computer is fried–both pc and mac and they’ve been easily fixable–mostly no boot problems that are software rather than hardware.
How ya doin’ Adie.
uh huh, and… ?
obviously brain-scrambled. too much Mahler’ll do that to a fella/gal.
only problem i ever had was a stick of bad ram.
so many layers of music
so little time
sorta like the Lake
Her releasing records is a red herring unless there really is something bad in them, in which case it will eventually be obvious because she will never release them or they will be redacted when she does. There is still time enough to do this and at this point I don’t think there is something sinister going on. She has to do it before the convention for sure, or else the Repugs will make hay out of it. Bide your time.
Holy Jeebus.
Watching Roy Blunt smile gives me the willies.
Almost as creepy as this
-G.
Had a PC that literally blew a component off the motherboard once. It was fried. I needed a ‘nother one anyhow.
This morning I saw your questions on Ian’s Post and left a comment in the EPU’s for you, I hope it helps.
I so wish I hadn’t clicked on that link, I was just about to take a bite of lunch.
Well, it’ll keep till the appetite returns.
To me, Carville looks a little more like Smeagle.
Obama has some questions to answer about NAFTA.
always turn your cooling vents twd the fresh air.
works for people and laptops both. ;->
Instead of Donahue, MTP had Mike Murphy as part of the backup dancers for grand master pumpkin. Painfully scripted as I noted last thread. Murphy said he knows John McCain and John McCain doesn’t have an anti-Catholic bone in his body. *dusts hands* — okay, fellow Villagers, we got rid of that little contretemps, and why are those DFHs making such a big issue out of our sweet buddy John — nothing to see here, move along….
Paw-lenty’s been on McCain’s shortlist from the git.
Ahmadinejad and Iraqi President Jalal Talibani exchanging some serious hugs and some sweet cheek kissing.
Mission accomplished Chimpy!
-G
Russert is a blight on political discourse. I’ve felt for a long time that the blogs need to mount a coordinated and unrelenting campaign to get him off the air. Letters to NBC, the FCC, boycotting sponsors of NBC, petition drives, demonstrations in front of NBC studios in NY & GE corporate headquarters. Although Russert is merely a symptom of a dysfunctional political system it’s still important to treat those symptoms.
Murphy hasn’t changed his hairstyle since 1973
Donahue was on CBS Evening News on Friday, saying that McCain needs to disavow Hagee. He hasn’t appeared on any of the shows today AFAIK.
The current big press thing is how unfair they’re being to Clinton because Obama is getting so much good press.
Idiots: they aren’t seeing the TV campaign coverage, and none of them have noticed the coverage of the GOoPers is even more favorable.
On frying computers: I had a friend who put a new power supply in one. The first time he turned it on, there was a flash and a puff of smoke. It turned out someone hadn’t trimmed a lead in the poser supply, and it had shorted 110V to ground. (The computer survived, but the power supply was replaced by the manufacturer.)
Has anyone read Anthony Lewis’ book Freedom for the Thought That We Hate? He’s on C-Span’s book TV right now & I should be paying closer attention.
It is a nice Sunday morning. The sky is bright blue and the sun is shining. There is a little chill in the wind. That won’t stop me and Molly from our morning walk which we are about to take so she can rediscover every bush in the area.
I should not have read the Guardian this morning. I was feeling so good. Politics didn’t exist. Now my head is spinning with wonders. Things like, if Hillary loses either of these primaries will that be the end of the Clinton dynasty? Will this be the final curtain for the Clinton brand? Man, it must feel terrible. I read the Texas stadium had lots of empty seat for her appearance and speech and some devotees left early. I wonder what that feels like to watch while you are still in the middle of addressing your fans. New Orleans has a tradition when the Sains have a bad few seasons. They attend the games with paper bags over their heads. Still devoted but embarrassed to be there.
Well, that’s better than nothin’, but really, Friday is considered the slow news day. The corporate media are just disgraceful.
Arnie. Thank you for writing that. So informative, I bookmarked it. Much appreciated, as my education in the field is dismal.
As ever, the Lake dwellers are a special lot.
Larry Flynnt, the man we hate to love.
Makes me angry all over again. We used to have Adelphia before it was looted by the owners. So now we have Time Wannah which, as one of its 1st official acts of taking-over, blanked out C-Span 2!
Yes. I’m aware I can open another window on the ‘puter & get it that way, but it still makes me mad as HE%%. That single act by TW cuts off so many people who don’t have our access to the toobes - and for WHAT?! The channel remains blank.
Sure that’a a very common problem or that the RAM was good but not seated properly (on the streat put in securely)–and some people who aren’t very familiar sometimes get non-compatible RAM, and sometimes there are mixed hdw and software problems. I used to help on the MSFT groups for years, and much of the time when we had blue screens that wouldn’t boot we could fix ‘em especially if they had the CD in the case of XP or the DVD in the case of Vista with Startup Repair or the BCDedit switches.
Like someone said, PCs do crash and have more problems, so part of the fun or headaches or both depending on what someone sees it as comes with the territory of Windows and MSFT. There is probably a lot of truth to the PC Mac commercials with John Hodgman from Jon Stewart.
Oh, I’m not defending them, I was as surprised as anyone…
Well, that’s better than nothin’, but really, Friday is considered the slow news day. The corporate media are just
disgraceful.busy packin’ for their weekend at [fill in the appropriate season cloistered gathering spot of the media moguls and their court jesters].edited for precision
I used to check the schedule for Book TV every week to see what was going to be on–sometimes you can get a lecture by the author of the book you want to read/have read. I don’t know if they’re putting archives on their site now. It’d be a good idea.
I know the Cable industry argues that they would pass on the higher cost (and I’m sure they would find a way anyway to raise prices) and hates the idea of ala carte choices, but it’s coming. There is no reason you shouldn’t be able to choose what you’re going to actually watch instead of being forced to buy packages with 50 channels you’ll never watch to get the few channels you will always want to watch.
heh, he is funny in the interview too.
The biggest opponents to a la carte are the religious channels. They’re afraid their low viewership might become apparent.
Those kinds of scenarios are always aggrevating. Even when you buy a high end box, because of cost calculations a big manufacturer nearly always sets things up to give you a mediocre low end power supply and the problem comes when you want to upgrade the hdw later, even putting in a more powerful video card might need a better PSU. And with some older boxes, the manufacturer doesn’t even sell a better Watt PSU–that’s the case with Dell and many of them, and you have to be careful that the PSU you buy is the correct one or you really can blow the box. A lot of PC makers are very propitiary with their PSUs. There is a great company in California though that carries a wide variety of PSUs and they can always tell you which one your box has to have. Often you won’t find the right PSU in a bricks and mortar store. They don’t even sell the upgrade PSUs for mine in a store.
Yeah, if I didn’t have sat TV that would include me as well b/c I stick with my indie ISP which doesn’t provide high speed access. Am personally still p!$$ed as hell in the way the Medicare business was handled from the standpoint that most of the people who needed more information were referred to the toobz….to which so many of them probably didn’t have access. Object of the thugs: keep the public as ignorant as possible.
Pete & eCAHN -
I LIVE for the day there is a choice to make faux news go away! Ditto the bloody fake Christian channels.
On Wolfie’s show, Howard Dean is calling McBatshitCrazySaint a bald faced liar. Hehehehe!
I thought Mr. Flynt was working on a new hypocrite exposing report?
We’re waiting Larry.
-G
Thanks for the clarification. :-)
Thanks for readjusting my spirits for the better, Pups.
I gotta go for now. Gonna start by standing in a little spot of sun I see out there on the snow. Then it’s back to NOT answering the phone.
O-uh-HIOOOO! donchaknow…
Can’t wait for March 4 to be over, sigh.
Almost got run off the road yestidie by a 40-something presumably-trained driver in a monster SUV - with both salt-stained BOOSHHHH! bumpkssschtickrrrs still firmly attached, albeit slightly askew.
appeared oddly quite appropriate, actually.
Hey, eCAHN. Thanks again for your donation to Robert Hamilton for Congress. Issa must go!
There were some other donations too, and I couldn’t figure out who they came from. Thanks to any pups who helped out.
That’s probably very true. If you’re a channel, particularly one that raises more money by having more exposure and viewers like they do, you don’t want to be excluded. You hit on exactly the channels that many people have no use for. I have 400 + channels in my package, and I couldn’t possibly remember what all of them are–and besides those there are about 50 music channels. In order to get what I want, that includes HBO, all the C-Spans and some of the movie channels, I don’t have any choice but to take a certain package with tons of channels I don’t watch.
Thanks for the reply, I don’t want to trespass on Ian’s patch, I hope Ian or eCAHNomics will provide a feedback. All too often, terms are misused or abused and communication of meaning is thwarted or misdirected. Most people gather their meaning from context and if that is not examined accurately, the error tends to compound with further use. Again I hope QuakerGirl will see it (comment #36).
I hope to gawd he has something on McCain! And that he presents it in late October.
Kay Baily Hutchison is talking about all of the good things Hagee does.
What happens in a lot of states is that the cable companies come into a county and buy agreements that make them exclusive and so unless you move, you have one and only one cable choice. And in a lot of states, unless you live in a very rural corner of the state, someone like Comcast has a monopoly on your state.
We can get cable or DSL where I live, but not everyone has the choice and you don’t have a choice of several companies that do either most of the time. A lot of dishes have sprung up in our neighborhood.
Strangely, I don’t mind skipping over the FAUXNEWS & holier-than-X channels.
I DO get SERIOUSLY aggravated when they summarily remove coverage of the Senate & all the rest on CSpan-2.
Is it Pirate Day again yet???
AARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
P E A C E good friends ;->
Just switched channels and oh, my goodness gracious! wolfie apparently just asked kb hutchinson the Catholic question.
Your comments are MOST welcome.
We great masses of untutored souls need all of you guys.
There needs to be away to increase internet access for everyone because as far as I can tell–there is a quantum leap of difference for people who have internet access to information and those that don’t. A part of that is trying to make classes and help available for some people who are spooked and afraid to try using a computer to make it much easier for them.
What’s happened too, over the years is that anyone who wants to get informatino out has realized that it’s considerably cheaper to do it on the internet and you can put a ton more information via links on a website for documents, instruction, etc.
wolfie’s strayed into idiot-ville some time ago.
he’ll have to stand in line tho.
gawlee it’s hard to listen to those dolts. a little wine helps.
or junior mints.
I could only stand about five minutes of it, but that was quite enough. This Week with George Stephanopolus featured Hillary’s campaign manager, Howard Wolfson, and Barack’s campaign manager, David Axelrod. It immediately got into the 3am ad, showing first the original and then Obama’s judgement-trumps-experience comeback. Then it was back to Team Hillary, who insisted that “Only smeone who has actually been president has ever had that actual experience.”
That raises an obvious question. They were the ones trying to say that Hillary’s experience is a major asset that Obama lacks, but when he points out that he got it right regarding Iraq the response is “Yes, but you weren’t president.”
In fact, this points up a key strategic error of Hillary’s campaign advisors. Most people find it a bit silly to claim that service as first lady constitutes significant creditentials toward becoming president. And, if she/they are going to submit that service as credentials, then the immediate question that arises is how good a job did Hillary do as first lady. Most all that common folks remember is that she was constantly embroiled in controversy, whether directly through her fault or her inability to fend off the GOP attacks. (I’m saying that’s the common impression; it is not mine.)
Given the dubious relevance of First-Lady experience to the job of the president, and the doubts folks have about the quality of Hillary’s service in that capacity, IMHO she and her campaign should drop this line of attack. Hillary has lots of accomplishments as senator. She is one of the most well versed senators on policy matters. And throughout her life she has championed progressive causes. For example, we hear a lot about Obama’s work as a community organizer, but nothing of Hillary’s work with Saul Alinsky. Obviously I’m missing something here.
Arnie - I just finished reading your responses to my questions and observations, all based on my experience and observations. I appreciate your indepth examination of each point. I’m sure others who come to this site will benefit from it.
I see more confusion on economics by the White House and Congress than any other area and out of this state of assumptions and confusions and lack of examination, economic policy is made. I was a consultant to executives in the corporate world and I was equally as stunned by their lack of understand the impact their decisions made. They came out of short term, next quarter bottom line, thinking. None of them remembered the purpose of their companies other than to look good on the books at any price. Their golden parachutes paid off handsomely no matter their failure and the employees were the ones hurt the most. The ripple effect went out to the community.
I see economics from a humanistic side and perhaps that has its flaws. I had always learned money is objective. Well, if one sees money as printed green paper that is so but that is the surface. Beneath the paper object are all the lives it moved. I think Adam Smith’ greatest work, Theory of Moral Sentiments, is greatly needed to apply some of his concepts in Wealth of Nations.
I am no economist and I’m certain that is selfevident but I seek to understand the impact of concepts on humans and our environment. I don’t separate one from the other but attempt to see them as a whole. I also observe that fewer women involve themselves in this discourse and I wonder how much of this is tradition and how much is the fact women relate to the economy differently. Just another thought. I urge women to jump into discussions on capitalism and economics regardless of bckground because this impacts us in every thing we do throughout our day. Am I jus too naive? Perhaps not sophistocated in this area but I really think I’m on to something. I welcome criticism.
Again, than you so much for taking the time to respond :)
That’s the way I’ve understood it also. Hence a large measure of my deep anger over the disparity.
A HUGE segment of the population is flying blind, because of deliberate manipulation by the corpus mediacrust. eh?
Easy..spill coffee on a lap-top’s key board.
One of the problems is that outfits like HP used to use very nonstandard PSU and not stock the parts for more than say a year. After that, if your PSU burns out, you computer is worthless.
Yeah, there definitely *is* as difference between having the option to use your clicker vs. having absolutely NO choice when the channel is blank.
Pete - True dat. I chuckled at reading that most recent article about how so many more people are moving to the net for their news; I’ve long since joined that crew….not b/c of the cost but the depth of info available. Amy Goodman and Moyers are the only ones who cover *anything* semi-well.
Me too. NOTHING wrong with that, in my book. We have a point also, along with the more book-ish approach.
Money is NOT the sole important measure of value!!!
mmmmmmm. fried latte!
I saw a good article in the other day by one of their econ writers on the actual impact of NAFTA and both candidates failure to ID some of the real economic problems for places like Ohio–and if I can find it quickly I’ll link it. It was this one by Dave Leonhardt.
The Politics of Trade in Ohio
Also:
Despite Nafta Attacks, Clinton and Obama Haven’t Been Free Trade Foes
I see more garbage on the subject of economics on this site than on any other subject. (Not saying that all economics discussions here are garbage, just that the ratio of garbage to good stuff is high.) Often it’s just too bad for me to weigh in. I try to keep my economics contributions to narrow specifics that I’m pretty confident about. Broad discussions of or denouncements of “capitalism” ar just not my bag. (How’s that for a dated expression.) Haven’t ever seen one here that is anything more than bloviating.
Very hot oil, chopped garlic, touch of ginger.
LOL! Beautiful epu!
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Citizen Pheonix Woman and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
First of all, there’s a great post over at Digby on the political geography of FISA and telecom immunity…a must read put together with the information that K-Street has pivoted towards the elected Democrats. This election is really about a tectonic shift in political physics…if we ken force Obama ta the left in the first 100 days of his administration.
Secondly, Sister Pheonix, it looks like your favorite governor is playin’ scorched earth in order to gain the VP nomination and put Minnesota back so far economically that even tax increases won’t solve the immediate or the long term problems of the state. It’s interestin’ that this is the corporate fascist strategy on the national level too…God, do we nee treason trials when we get the White House back!
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION…USE IT OR LOSE IT FOLKS!!
There’s no doubt that there is considerably more depth available on the net/including blogs. The web gives you the ability to quicky locate most print media articles and if you go into a large magazine selection in a book store, you can probably find 60% of the articles available free on the web. You also can set up an RSS feed for about 6000 papers/print media news letters a day, if you can figure out how you’re going to read a fraction of them.
Don’t you DARE hold back on commenting! Please! I’m quite serious. I depend on you a lot, and I’m sure plenty of others do too.
No snark. Just the dang truth.
THANK YOU ;->
Wanna be stunned real fast?
Read any us of a news site and compare with BBC news of “the Americas”.
Thanks.
Question of entering the discussion when I think I can be a value added.
From personal experience, I can tell you that water works, too. Did that to a Mac laptop several years ago. Then sat there and listened to the hiss and watched the screen go dark by degrees.
Lisa/MAC stolen from The Xerox PARC/Smalltalk lab… still pisses me off and I don’t have anything to do with anything Apple… just a a bunch of wannabes!
The way I see it - any time you see fit, please DO. ;->
eCHAN - I’d like to hear more from you.
I read about economics and have more questions than answers. It is a subject that reminds me of doctors telling women just do as you are told and don’t question the treatment I’m recommending. We doctors know more. Well, they do. I need my doctor and I value his recommendation. However, I know my body. I need to be part of the process and decision-making. I’ll research and look into many sources. I’ll check out alternatives. But I want to be a partner and not just a mindless receiver. Economics makes me feel like a mindless receiver who is too stupid to understand so I just should accept the opinion of the economic experts, like Greenspan.
Maybe I’m just stubborn but I really believe everyone should be in the discussion and speak from experience. Otherwise, what’s the purpose? It becomes an excercise for the purpose of exercise.
looking at economics without looking at the humanistic side is a huge problem. it sounds like you have the right perspective. i find Krugman to be really good from the humanistic perspective. what about you, eCAHNomics?
I can appreciate not wanting to get into a flame throwing session with gilded ignorance. There is a difference between economics and political pseudo-economic BS. Some need the reminder of which is which. ;-)
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Citizen eCAHNomics and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
Please don’t stop contributing to ANY discussion includin’ those on economics…but remember that jest because there’s only one game in town doesn’t mean there isn’t another set of rules that ken work in the league.
Have you not wondered lately that maybe we have reached the end of corporate capitalism as a viable world wide economics?
KEEP THE FAITH AND REMEMBER, IF IT CAN’T BE EASILY EXPLAINED IT PROBABLY AIN’T TRUE!!!
What I think happens for you is inevitable. When you’ve spent much of your adult life being an economist, a lot of what you see is going to look like garbage/superficial. I see a lot of that with medicine on the web, although I have been surprised that there is a lot of high quality info on the web. Most medical centers put up excellent information–take all your NYC hospitals for example, but there is a ton of jun as well because people are trying to sell something.
I think it’s a lot easier to get higher quality legal or medical info on the web than to find economic info, and that’s probably because most of us just don’t have/get enough economic education and experience.
Long live the great The Xerox PARC/Smalltalk lab. How ya doin’ nahant?
In my neighborhood there is a housing project. After school there’s an area in the community center where kids (maybe adults too, I dont’ know) can go to build computers from donated/recycled parts. You build it, you take it home. Wonderful idea.
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Citizen Pet