Last night, Joshua Marshall nailed a hard truth about the upcoming presidential campaign:
The core is to drill a handful of key adjectives into the public mind about Barack Obama: Muslim, anti-American, BLACK, terrorist, Arab. Maybe a little hustler and shifty thrown in, but we'll have to see. The details and specific arguments are sort of beside the point.
Just this morning, Attaturk caught another angle of the same broad assault--that Obama is too haughty and arrogant for heartland America to support. As I noted in a comment in that thread, though, this isn't just a race card, since the same line of attack was used on Al Gore. What we're really seeing is the re-animation of the same zombie logic the Republicans trot out against Democratic presidential candidates every four years. Here's how Paul Waldman described it a year and a half ago:
If there's one thing Republicans have understood and Democrats haven't, it is that politics is not about issues. Politics is about identity. . . .
Think about what happens in campaign after campaign. The Democrat comes before the public and says, ``If you read my 10-point policy plan, I'm sure you'll vote for me. Let's go over it point by point." The Republican then comes before the public, points to the Democrat, and says, ``That guy is a weak, elitist liberal who hates you and everything you stand for. I'm one of you and he's not." And guess who wins.
. . . voters don't read policy papers, and they don't make decisions with a checklist of issues in their hands. That's why Republican campaigns operate on a different level: Whom do you identify with? Whom can you trust? Who is strong, and who is weak? These questions transcend issues, which is why Republicans -- who know they are at a disadvantage on the issues -- spend so much time talking about them.
That's why what Attaturk described even earlier this morning as Obama's "three paragraphs of unvarnished truth" in replying to John McCain on Iraq yesterday were so bracing:
"I said, well I would always reserve the right to go in and strike against al Qaeda if they were in Iraq," Obama said. "So, you know, this is how politics works. McCain thought that he could make a clever point by saying, 'Well, let me give you some news Barack, al Qaeda IS in Iraq,' like I wasn't reading the papers. Like I didn't know what was going on."
. . ."But I have some news for John McCain," Obama said, "and that was that there's no such thing as al Qaeda in Iraq until George Bush and John McCain decided to invade Iraq!"
. . . "So John McCain may like to say he wants to follow Osama bin Laden to the gates of Hell," Obama said, "but so far all he's done is follow George Bush into a misguided war in Iraq that's cost us thousands of lives and billions of dollars."
What Obama is doing here isn't just responding to the factual specifics of McCain's gibe -- he's portraying himself as the ordinary, common-sense guy dealing with reality, and McCain as a foolish, out-of-touch phony who's only concerned with politics.
For those of us who've been worried about Barack's readiness to deal with the GOP sludge machine, it's a good sign.
Update: So is this bit of framing goodness from Team Obama, responding to Dubya's press conference today:
With their words today, George Bush and John McCain called for staying the course with an endless war in Iraq and a failed policy of not talking to leaders we don’t like, but Americans of all political persuasions are calling for change. The American people aren’t looking for tough talk about fighting for 100 years in Iraq, because they know we need to end this war, finish the job in Afghanistan, and take the fight to al Qaeda. The American people aren’t looking for more of a do-nothing Cuba policy that has failed to secure the release of dissidents, failed to bring democracy to the island, and failed to advance freedom for fifty years, because they know we need to pursue new opportunities to achieve liberty for the Cuban people.
Notice how the statement intentionally links "tough talk" with failure, and puts Obama on the side of the American people in wanting policies that get results instead? A couple of months ago, I mentioned that for almost three years now, I've been "writing about the basic distinction of bluster versus responsibility and the need to consciously rehabilitate and reclaim common sense as an approach for addressing policy issues, especially with regard to national security. . . . We need to start asserting the value of thinking about what works, not just what sounds like the most macho response." It's great that Obama and his brain trust appear to get this.
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Swopa!
I don’t like Obama for a whole bunch of reasons, but he is head & shoulders above any D in recent memory on defense. It’s about time.
this was a great, entertaining post
in my opinion, this was the money shot;
I really want everyone, every democrat to hammer and hammer at that point because it cannot be denied, yet the republicans deny it
so hammer in their face, say it when on the same show, say it at every debate, say it every SINGLE time mccain brings up ANYTHING that has to do with our armed forces or this rediculous war
(Note: This thread was briefly kidnapped by aliens. But it’s back now, with no visible ill effects.)
hi swopa!
love the post
Heh, that it is…! It is refreshing to see Obama deftly turn the attacks back on McCan’t…! *g*
Love to see our side punching back.
In this house, make no mistake, as it stands now, we are strong Obama supporters.
Instead of From the Gates of Hell to the Gates of Baghdad (oops not there?) Good thinking George. Obama has it right.
It is refreshing. Isn’t it.
It’s about time! I was dismayed at Gore’s, and, particularly, Kerry’s lack of spine and punch…
Republicans. Things are changing. Get over it.
Wow! This what I’ve been waiting to hear for the last 7 years! Just keep repeating it, over and over, Obama!
I love that he got in the obvious essence of our Cuba “policy,” too.
Frankly, this is why I just came home from voting for Obama. (Texas early voting ends tomorrow.) Edwards was still on the ballot, and it was tempting…but OMG, Texans are going to influence this election for the first time in a long time, and I ain’t wasting the chance!
More like this, please!
The GOP is indulging in typical fascist crap respective of Obama. Karl Rove… you naughty little fascist fantasist behind the curtain.
I find Shrub’s argument that, by sitting down and talking with Raul, et al, gives him all the legitimacy of the POTUS, is sheer BS…! In fact, the talks would actually burnish OUR severely tarnished image… 8-(
OT..A little more spine growing..the House seems to be leading…
(snip)
link
a-fucking-men
Are the republicans going to put issues on the ballot like gay marriage and pregnant teens needing parental permission to get an abortion this general election? Or has this all been run in to the ground by the GOP? It was red meat republican issues like this that helped bring the rightwing out to vote in 2004. They always have this other card to play if it has’nt already run it’s course.
Speaker. You are late to the party.
AP - House Speaker Nancy Pelosi asked the Justice Department on Thursday to open a grand jury investigation into whether President Bush’s chief of staff and former counsel should be prosecuted for contempt of Congress.
Here’s the you tube of this exchange. It’s not only the content, but his delivery that’s impressive. He sells the snark and hammers home the point.
“I got some news for you, John McCain!”
This is a must see
Wow. That is awesome. Now can we get impeachment back on the table, please?
Oops, forgot the link!! DOH!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2pXElHV6FA
This is possibly insider stuff, but I found this article, and accompanying response in The Black Commentator pretty refreshing from a Illinois State Senator running for the Senate of the United States back in 2002.
It’s pretty clear that Obama was already pretty forceful on the flaws of NAFTA and willing to attack the rationale for the Iraq invasion even when, in 2002, the latter was still very popular. It’s critical to realize that opposition to the war in 2002 could have been a “deal breaker” for those running for Senate in Illinois. It was a principled stand.
I also learned that Obama denounced (or is it rejected) an erroneous affiliation with the DLC when he was a Senate Candidate. And he cut his teeth as a community organizer by heading a voter registration effort for Carol Mosley-Brown.
He also deals with the question of whether it’s right for him to have discourses with politicians across the aisle…and he basically uses the same rationales as he has used when he says he’ll communicate with Ahmadjinedad or Kim Il-Sung…which I thought was pretty humorous!
This is not a complicated concern. Get rid of Nancy and Harry after next January.
You don’t think Obama was politely saying “John, please…go to hell.”
Junk NAFTA. Junk the DLC. Junk the “third way”. Junk the Clintons.
Swopa, congratulations and thanks for an outstanding post.
Dropping my quarter for the swear jar….
boo… isn’t that scary….. what is that funny III after his name? Is he a Manchurian candidate?
EW’s all over it, OKK!
Uh, just checking. Are we dead yet?
Jeff on 1480 KPHX is going to interview the guy responsible for those FISA scary Foundation Defend Democracie ads that have been targeting 17 freshman Democrats in a few minutes…. go to www.aaphx.com to live stream.
Someone should make a website similar to this one to answer that question:
http://www.isitchristmas.com/
Has anyone registered arewedeadyet.com?
Everybody can relax. It’s in the bag:
http://raginguniverse.blogspot.....ation.html
Rats. Taken. Ah, well…
Actually, at this stage meetings with Bush might do more harm to the image of Raul and other foreign leaders than helping. In fact with Bush such public meetings might embarass the US. Exhibit #1 would be the pathetic Press Conference this morning in which Bush could barely pronounce an intelligible word and communicated only when he used his repeated mantras that might have well been tattooed on his forehead. I thought he was drunk, or heavily medicated. He couldn’t even get his prepared “talking points” about Telecom immunity out without slurring.
I listened on the radio (NPR) and was shocked by the long pauses, tangents, and time-stalling interjections. It was almost as if he had been struck with sudden onset Alzheimers or Huntington’s Disease. I wonder if something is up medically with him?
You make a good point Swopa , pointing to McStain and saying ‘He’s old! And he smells funny too!’ could be a hell of a way to get the younger voters on board.
‘Yeah, my Grandpa smells like that too, I’m not voting for that guy.’
/snark
Wow, you are right - that delivery is fantastic. I love the way the audience stood and cheered each time he connected McCain w/ Bush and the misguided war. I love that he brought it back to Al Qaeda in Afghanistan.
I’m liking this guy more and more.
Something I read awhile back: An Illinois representative met with bush in his 1st term. As she was putting on her coat, bush caught sight of the Obama button on it & jumped back, startled. He thought the button said Osama. He didn’t seem to know who Obama was & the rep said, “You will, Mr President, you will”.
Justin Franks book - “Bush on the Couch” addressed much of this, fetal alcohol syndrome, dry drunk, ADD, ADHD, and the effects of drugs.
If McCain is seen to be floundering against Obama on national security, I wonder at what point will George W. Bush start campaigning actively against Obama to defend his own failed policies. If McCain was dumb enough to allow Bush to stump with him and Obama maintains his aggressive responses, it could be devastating for the McCain campaign.
You must be talking about this.
LOL! I like it, though.
What a fantastic book that is. Everyone should read it - or maybe not if you want to avoid nightmares.
I stand corrected! ;-)
I’ve wondered about Shrub’s sanity since ‘99…! *g*
In reality though, Swopa is dead on WRT voters eyes glazing over when confronted with actually reading and having to comprehend a candidates position on anything.
They like the good looking guy with the straight teeth and the nice hair. The guy could be reading his damn grocery list, they aren’t listening at that point anyway.
I thought that the “Youth Vote for Obama” Phenomenon might have been tapped out in terms of registration. But apparently that enthusiasm and support vote is now currently only College Students…plus it’s expanding there still. But NPR offered this morning that some polls show that many non-College age peers are still not registered. That means that if College students now start outreach with other members of their cohort there is room for even more support and turnout.
I have to say I agree with the commenter here who remarked the other day that they couldn’t wait for the Obama and McCain debates. And also with another commenter who expressed concern for President Obama’s safety.
and katymine — I couldn’t stand to listen to it for long, but I noticed that, too. He stumbled over the same talking points he’s been using for years. Of course, he sounded like he was increasingly pissed off, (also heard it on NPR) as he so often does these days. (hee)
Thanks! These are the main reasons I feel confident in my support for Obama, regardless of specific votes.
Bob in HI
The Obama campaign has also done a good job of making people feel like part of the campaign, connected with it, which has a lot to do with building up identity. Once people have decided they like you, they’re more likely to discount attacks, no matter how nasty. This is part of why the whole “no specifics” business in the press and rival campaigns went nowhere — while it may be frustrating to pundits and politics geeks like us, campaigns are not won on policy. (And, of course, it’s always been somewhat bogus, because the policy is there on the campaign website, he just doesn’t make it a focus of his speeches, except in general terms.)
Lil boots sure was all in a tizzy this morning at his presser. If it wasn’t so serious it would almost be funny. What an a**.
Question:
Exactly where and how did McBush obtain all that foreign & security experience?
Was it being in a POW camp in Vietnam?
Was it sitting in congress or the senate?
Was it his flybys into Iraq?
Really, Bush is just stupid, besides being a drunk. His puppet masters no longer care what he says, so they feed him lines no more. Republics should be ashamed.
arewedeadyet.net isn’t taken yet.
E-mail from Obama campaign this morning said they had reached 1 million contributors. That’s amazing.
Bob, Did you catch Inouye’s slur about Punahou, his retraction was front page material here in Hilo…! ;-)
I heard that 90% are under $1000… think of that….
Does he *explicitly* suggest Fetal alcohol syndrome? Can you provide an actual citation (page number)? It could explain a lot. Like just for starters, difficulty anticipating consequences and cause/effect relationships. Pretty dangerous qualities for the captain of the ship.
Bob in HI
I agree that he was stupid in 2000. I was astounded that he was taken seriously as a candidate. Still, I think the evidence of deterioration of his speaking skills is solid, whatever the cause. Besides the dementia theory, I’m also partial to the Lyme disease explanation. That organism does very serious neurological damage to syphilis. He was diagnosed with Lyme disease during his physical last year. Of course, there is the alcohol and drug damage, too, so his poor, demented brain has to be pretty messed up on a lot of counts.
True Public Financing…! *g*
I got a robocall in Southern California about a week ago asking if I would support a ballot proposition to make marriage a one man/ one woman thingee. I thought we already did that nonsense, but the new proposition is to change the California Constitution in case the state supreme court rules that whatever we did last time was a load of crap.
So, yes, the GOP is reconstituting their wedge issues.
Just watched the video of Obama’s retort to McCain. Didn’t know this before, but Obama has a distinctive bass harmonic in his voice, and off the top of my head, I’d say that that will get him elected. Fewer print quotes of the man and more sound bites: that’s the ticket. (I always thought that the way Raygun’s eyeb rows went up in the middle got him in; they said, “Don’t pick on me; I’m cuddly and helpless.” Kerry’s eyebrows took it to the point of caricature and didn’t help him AT all. Bushie’s both slant up to the right (left as you’re looking at him); don’t know how that works, except that it’s a little unsettling to look at.) I’m rambling. Definitely need supper.
I don’t remember anything about FAS (fetal alcohol syndrome) in Bush on the Couch. It would mean that Bar drank to excess while she was pregnant with W. I find that impossible to believe.
The mention above of the youth/student vote/registration issue reminds me–at my early voting place, in early afternoon on a weekday, the line was out the door and remained that way. Took about 45 min. to get in and cast my votes. Quite a mix of ages–several who looked like college students (it was a few blocks from a small college), lots of middle-age and older, and a couple frail women who appeared to be in their early 90’s. I felt good about it.
It has to be a good thing that turnout is consistently high, state after state.
Tucker Carlson is valiantly defending White Men against the non-white, non-male forces of evil.
I gotta love this man.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....88954.html
Loaned my book to a friend and do not have it…
Justin Franks is a former CIA Psychoanalysis’s who used the same methods of evaluting world leaders & persons of interest that the CIA does, profiling Bush. The first three chapters are just dang boring with his methodology BUT what he does is explore issues and then states what might be the source.
All those above were listed at one time or another. Bush’s not wanting long meetings, having to do excessive exercise, the speech patterns were all different things.
He goes through his life span, from his parents, the death of his sister, their moves, events in his childhood and failed businesses.
Anyone else who might have their copy jump in.
I heard on MSGOP yesterday that Crazy train is ahead in National Polls. How is that possible when the primary numbers so far show that democrats have come out far ahead of the republics. Did anyone else see that?
I had a neighbor ask me to sign for that proposition. Told him no.
Obama is good at standing up to simple minded bogus half- and zero-truth talking points and rebutting them in concise, plain language. Also good with the elementary “compare and contrast” stuff, which sounds patronizing, but it isn’t. It is basic stuff you’re supposed learn in high school English classes, but then forget later on when you want to look all sophisticated. It is important to get your viewpoint across in a simple short story that is easy to follow.
I think that can be done even for complicated issues. If something is susceptable to policy analysis, that means that it can be analyzed and that means it is a complicated thing which is nothing but a bunch of simple things arranged at put together in certain way. You have to identify the simple pieces that are most important and put them together and across to a wide audience in a short time.
I also agree with the angle of GOP politics being about the politics of identity. That is what I means when I say the modern GOP is like the Soveit secret police’s approach: “Give me the person and I will give you the case.”
It doesn’t make any difference what the person has done or said or thinks. You just go over the person until you find some angle, no matter what it is, (looks, lisp, squinty eyes, background, some arbitrary stereotype, whatever) that you can use to make that person look bad in simple words and images. Then you go sell it to the judge or the public, the voters. They do it over and over. And to even play that game or worry about it much is to give half the game away before you start.
And often it does boil down to making the other person seem different or strange in some way. Not part of your group, and therefore unknown, potentially dangerous or hostile, not trustworthy.
Lately I’ve decided the term social engineering focuses on another aspect of it that is enlightening, but it is all about the same thing. I think ‘politics of identity’ is a great description of another facet to that strategy.
That is why you see all these trial balloons being floated. None of them mean squat about the target. They often don’t identify anything, weakness, strength, or any important charactersitic of the victim at all. It is all about what intuitive pitch will work with the audience.
When they think they have found a winner, they will go with that and start honing and finetuning the pitch.
I’d rather watch the Beard than the Bow…! ;-)
“Bob, Did you catch Inouye’s slur about Punahou, his retraction was front page material here in Hilo…! ;-)”
I heard about it as a slam against Obama, and painting Punahou as elitist is old politics here. In fact, just had a discussion about it the other night. What I hear is that Punahou isn’t as elitist as it used to be, but you’ll still hear it from public school students, and even students from Kam Hi.
Still, any high school that produced Obama and 2/3rds of the Kingston Trio can’t be all bad…
:-)
Bob in HI
Caligula Bush doesn’t like the fact that he’s fading from the scene. His arrogance and childesh neediness is going to smother John McCain.
Bush’s hug is growing tighter around McCain’s neck.
I don’t know what is more despicable, Bush’s ego or the sycophants like Rove, Snow et al running around trying to reinforce the Bush=Lincoln legacy myth.
-G
I would refer you to an editorial from 2004 by Ariel Dorfman about this very subject, except in this case, it related to John Kerry:
http://www.victorycoffee.com/article.php?sid=18367
Be afraid, be very afraid…
There is a macro trend. It’s called Obama.
It doesn’t always need to be excessive or continuous, it can be at the specific point in the fetal development.
Has Mr. McCain ever had an out of the box thought?
National poll numbers use models based on party identification and turnout that are typically from at least a few years ago.
Have to go out shopping….. just remember McBush’s middle name
Just who would vote for someone with the name of Sidney?
Wow, it is a good thing that the crooked, corrupt, and sleazy McCain doesn’t have these problems. I guess that’s one of the pluses when you are owned by lobbyists. *g*
Real leaders take risks Speaker Pelosi. Where does that leave you?
Whatever. There’s nothing about FAS in Bush on the Couch as near as I can remember (my copy is not where I am, but it’s the kind of thing that would be quite memorable if it were in the book). No one that I have ever read sugests that Bar has a drinking problem, especially when she was pregnant. I’ve know a FAS and I’ve read a little about it. W does not resemble.
One of the intangibles that the Dems have in Obama, that has been sorely lacking since JFK and RFK, is Charisma…! I like his Rock Star personae, it’s produced tangible turnout numbers…! *g*
I can’t help but hope that the people of USA know they need a smart well educated and able-to-be-educated young man after seven years of dumb and dumber.
And I never understood how the GOP could throw around the label “elitist” and have it stick when they are the cliquey-ist, croniest, most exclusionary group going!
Nice to see you swopa.
What is this about McCain’s middle name? Are Ds now stooping to R tactics?
And Michelle Wie…! ;-)
You have a short memory, you are forgetting the charisma dynamic duo, Walter Mondale and Mike Dukakis.
-G
I just watched the youtube of Obama’s “I’ve got news for John McCain. Pretty good. I think it would have been better, though, if every time he said McCain’s name, he prefaced it with the word ‘crazy’. Yep, it’s better. “I have news for crazy John McCain”
Too much?
“I don’t remember anything about FAS (fetal alcohol syndrome) in Bush on the Couch. It would mean that Bar drank to excess while she was pregnant with W. I find that impossible to believe.”
Is that last sentence snarky?
One does not have to “drink to excess” to shave IQ points off the fetal brain. And the full facial features will result only if consumption is heavy enough during the first month or so of pregnancy. Drinking later in pregnancy can still have profound effects on the brain without leaving teltale signs on the face. But George does not have the full facial features of FAS, so that is not credible to me. What is credible is that Bar drank enough ensure that George is not playing with a full deck (in clinical talk, that would be something like “Fetal Alcohol Effects (FAE),” or “Alcohol-related Neurological Deficits (ARND)”, or “Static encephalopathy,” etc.
Bob in HI
LOL. Remember Ron Lovitz as dukakis.
I’m outraged.
If anyone in the press had half a brain they would have asked Bush this morning to reconcile his position on not talking to Raul Castro about human rights with his intent to talk to the leader of China (another paragon of human rights) while he is at the Olympics….
Somehow the word dynamic doesn’t jibe with my memories of Mr. Mondale.
Yes, it is too much.
-G
Invading a sovereign nation leaving millions dead is too much.
Our economy is going from bad to a lot worse in 2008.
All Obama need do to win in November is speak to the suffering middle class, the workers, the soldiers, and the poor. Contrast their lives with the rich.
And stand tall.
Same with Pelosi and Reid, perhaps.
Fine. We’re all arguing about something that we are not now able to check in the alleged source.
Yes I agree. But the charisma angle only has leges if there is substance behind it, they charismast can think on their feet.
seems like the GOP (and recently, and sadly, HRC) has been trying out the substancelss charsima angle. But that does not seem to be working.
If Giuliani or Romney campaigns had gone further, it would be better in the respect that there would be a slamdunk case of charisma without substance to contrast against Obama. Except that Giuliani had negative charisma. And Romney had late 1950s dowdy white man charisma.
Gotta read the fine print. Those polls usually state that these are “likely voters”…which means that they are biased against those people who have just recently registered, or who have lapsed voting, or who have switched registration (particularly from Republican to Democrat or Independent). All these surveys are not based on “raw numbers” but upon some massaged scalars of a) earlier reported Party registration, and b) voting in the previous Presidential election.
That means that Republican responses are given a much higher weight simply because Rove got more evangelicals out last election. All of those are “probable voters”. But if someone says they are Democrats, because the Dems are far less likely to vote, that group that identifies themselves as D gets a reduced weight.
This is one acknowleged reason the polls have been widely off in the Democratic Primaries…people who are not “likely voters” are coming out in proportions at, or above the levels of likely voters.
Right. I personally was thinking about how Bush embraced Musharraf.
I personally was thinking about Gitmo & Siegelman when he was spittling over political prisoners and human rights…
Duh, because it’s a “sporting event” and he is a sports fan…