Comments on: No, We Can’t? http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/28/no-we-cant/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:40:26 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: prostratedragon http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/28/no-we-cant/#comment-1303550 prostratedragon Fri, 29 Feb 2008 01:34:26 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/28/no-we-cant/#comment-1303550 <p>Belittle fashion all you want, but it’s from where stuff sneaks up on us. If the fashionistas have decided to say No! on the job, there’s really something out there.</p> <p>(Besides, it can be fun, even if you lack the wherewithall to participate much.)</p> Belittle fashion all you want, but it’s from where stuff sneaks up on us. If the fashionistas have decided to say No! on the job, there’s really something out there.

(Besides, it can be fun, even if you lack the wherewithall to participate much.)

]]> By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/28/no-we-cant/#comment-1303022 cinnamonape Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:27:58 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/28/no-we-cant/#comment-1303022 <p>I almost got the impression that Bush was drunk or medicated or something. He would wander, use tons of long (awkward, pauses and far more interjections like (Err and Um) than usual. Even parts of his conference where he should have been well-scripted, like on TeleComm Immunity, he was wandering and only giving “fear mantras”.</p> <p>Gosh! He makes everyone running for President sound like geniuses, especially Obama and Clinton.</p> I almost got the impression that Bush was drunk or medicated or something. He would wander, use tons of long (awkward, pauses and far more interjections like (Err and Um) than usual. Even parts of his conference where he should have been well-scripted, like on TeleComm Immunity, he was wandering and only giving “fear mantras”.

Gosh! He makes everyone running for President sound like geniuses, especially Obama and Clinton.

]]> By: cinnamonape http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/28/no-we-cant/#comment-1303016 cinnamonape Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:23:59 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/28/no-we-cant/#comment-1303016 <p>Apparently the 1790 Act established that “natural born” included those born of US citizen parents (thus extending <em> jus sanguinus</em>) as well as <em>jus soli </em>(those born within the boundaries of the United States). It was left out of the 1792 revised Act, but reinstated in the 1802 version. There was a Supreme Court decision a century later that also firmly re-established that children of even ONE US parent, though born abroad, are “natural born”. </p> <p>Interestingly George Romney was, in fact, in a very ambiguous position. His grandparents may have surrendered their US citizenship when they left the United States (and it’s Utah Territory) in the 1870’s to establish a polygamist mission in Mexico. Most appear to have accepted Mexican citizenship, some even serving in positions within the government. George’s parents may thus, not have been US citizens when he was born in Mexico. And his status as either a naturalized or jus sanguinus citizen was in question. Mitt was definitely a citizen, however, since his mother was a US citizen and he was born in the US. But he could be viewed as a sort of “anchor baby”.</p> Apparently the 1790 Act established that “natural born” included those born of US citizen parents (thus extending jus sanguinus) as well as jus soli (those born within the boundaries of the United States). It was left out of the 1792 revised Act, but reinstated in the 1802 version. There was a Supreme Court decision a century later that also firmly re-established that children of even ONE US parent, though born abroad, are “natural born”.

Interestingly George Romney was, in fact, in a very ambiguous position. His grandparents may have surrendered their US citizenship when they left the United States (and it’s Utah Territory) in the 1870’s to establish a polygamist mission in Mexico. Most appear to have accepted Mexican citizenship, some even serving in positions within the government. George’s parents may thus, not have been US citizens when he was born in Mexico. And his status as either a naturalized or jus sanguinus citizen was in question. Mitt was definitely a citizen, however, since his mother was a US citizen and he was born in the US. But he could be viewed as a sort of “anchor baby”.

]]> By: Albatross http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/28/no-we-cant/#comment-1302988 Albatross Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:37:17 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/28/no-we-cant/#comment-1302988 <p>“Mr. Dursley returned home, where he learned that Dudley had learned a new word: won’t!”</p> “Mr. Dursley returned home, where he learned that Dudley had learned a new word: won’t!”

]]> By: Hugh http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/28/no-we-cant/#comment-1302970 Hugh Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:08:30 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/28/no-we-cant/#comment-1302970 <blockquote><p>Hi LS, I’m late but did you catch any of the “press conference” this a.m.? What a friggin’ joke. “we can’t embrace dictators (Castro) who falsely imprison people”.<br /> Yeah, never mind that island called Gitmo.</p> <p>was this discussed earlier or did everyone just throw up a little and move on?</p></blockquote> <p>We liveblogged it a couple of threads ago. To be more precise, Bush does not believe tyrants should be embraced at least on the first date. Also we should not get into bed with them until the third.</p>

Hi LS, I’m late but did you catch any of the “press conference” this a.m.? What a friggin’ joke. “we can’t embrace dictators (Castro) who falsely imprison people”.
Yeah, never mind that island called Gitmo.

was this discussed earlier or did everyone just throw up a little and move on?

We liveblogged it a couple of threads ago. To be more precise, Bush does not believe tyrants should be embraced at least on the first date. Also we should not get into bed with them until the third.

]]> By: LS http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/28/no-we-cant/#comment-1302964 LS Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:05:00 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/28/no-we-cant/#comment-1302964 <p>Hiya, </p> <p>I thought it was really funny when he said that working people need money to put “money” on the table…He said a bunch of weird stuff…like that McCain won’t necessarily be the nominee!</p> Hiya,

I thought it was really funny when he said that working people need money to put “money” on the table…He said a bunch of weird stuff…like that McCain won’t necessarily be the nominee!

]]> By: JoeBuck http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/28/no-we-cant/#comment-1302957 JoeBuck Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:55:24 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/28/no-we-cant/#comment-1302957 <p>If the designers really want to make money, they’ll produce a toddler line. Any two or three year old will be happy to wear a <b>NO!</b> T-shirt.</p> If the designers really want to make money, they’ll produce a toddler line. Any two or three year old will be happy to wear a NO! T-shirt.

]]> By: dosido http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/28/no-we-cant/#comment-1302954 dosido Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:47:00 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/28/no-we-cant/#comment-1302954 <p>Hi LS, I’m late but did you catch any of the “press conference” this a.m.? What a friggin’ joke. “we can’t embrace dictators (Castro) who falsely imprison people”.<br /> Yeah, never mind that island called Gitmo.</p> <p>was this discussed earlier or did everyone just throw up a little and move on?</p> Hi LS, I’m late but did you catch any of the “press conference” this a.m.? What a friggin’ joke. “we can’t embrace dictators (Castro) who falsely imprison people”.
Yeah, never mind that island called Gitmo.

was this discussed earlier or did everyone just throw up a little and move on?

]]> By: Maddy http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/28/no-we-cant/#comment-1302951 Maddy Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:40:09 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/28/no-we-cant/#comment-1302951 <p>The highest percentage per population in the world<br /> <a href="http://www.kcl.ac.uk/depsta/rel/icps/world-prison-population-list-2005.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.kcl.ac.uk/depsta/re.....t-2005.pdf</a></p> <p>Maybe we should have clothes designed with a P on the back of the shirt for prisoner, a new fashion statement of reality, because that is how it feels to this guy.</p> The highest percentage per population in the world
http://www.kcl.ac.uk/depsta/re…..t-2005.pdf

Maybe we should have clothes designed with a P on the back of the shirt for prisoner, a new fashion statement of reality, because that is how it feels to this guy.

]]> By: Hugh http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/28/no-we-cant/#comment-1302943 Hugh Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:31:31 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/28/no-we-cant/#comment-1302943 <p>As someone pointed out in the last thread, 1% of the US adult population is now behind bars. </p> <blockquote><p>Incarceration rates are even higher for some groups. One in 36 Hispanic adults is behind bars, based on Justice Department figures for 2006. One in 15 black adults is, too, as is one in nine black men between the ages of 20 and 34. </p></blockquote> <p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/28/us/28cnd-prison.html?_r=2&hp&oref=slogin&oref=slogin" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02.....ref=slogin</a></p> <p>I find these numbers horrific. Another mission accomplished of sorts.</p> As someone pointed out in the last thread, 1% of the US adult population is now behind bars.

Incarceration rates are even higher for some groups. One in 36 Hispanic adults is behind bars, based on Justice Department figures for 2006. One in 15 black adults is, too, as is one in nine black men between the ages of 20 and 34.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02…..ref=slogin

I find these numbers horrific. Another mission accomplished of sorts.

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