Fork!

Hillary don’t do it!!!

in it.

Hey Eli -

Russert, huh? I’ll read the transcript.

Oh, good. Eli is with us!

Hmmmm… cabbage soup diet.

Brian sez “no rules”

I hope she brought her sink.

so like, what channel? I can’t find it on comcast atlanta. Guess it’s msnbc?

Ooo, it’s Dramatic Tim Russert!

I didn’t think anything could make me miss the Tshirt ads, but how did Newt get here?

Oh noes! Hillary is flip-flopping on whether she likes Obama!

What is this, Meet The Press?

Who’s debating? Tim and Brian? Oh, that should be a…gas.

Why has no-one coined the phrase “NAFTAmath”?

I would rather see them in a Pon Farr duel to the death. Complete with music.

Great. It sounds like her Lithium levels are dipping below .8meq/ml. Get mean Hillary.

can’t get msnbc here in Atlanta…Is that what its on?

T-

(Brrr-AH!)

Timmeh “Dramatic Prairie Dog” Russert.

‘Fraid so.

This looks like it may get nasty. Hillary is starting out.

Great video, Eli. Think we’ll see some of that tonight?

Eli’s always on the economic impacts. Good deal.

I am listening to the NY Philharmonic in Korea. My mind is made up as far as the candidates. Why waste time on the same old same old??

15 million people is complete bullshit–it’s a guestimate figure that means absolutely nothing in terms of delivering health care in this country. It shows real contempt for physicians and Americans in general.

I really hope someone sets that… look to the Dramatic Music. It’s perfect.

OMG. Drudge picture! How disgusting!

“So far as I know….”

Be civil, because you are gonna need each other…!!

Doubtful. Not sure whether that’s a good thing or a bad thing…

I think she’s giving him the Glare Of Death. WHY DOES HE NOT DIE???

Couldn’t agree more.

With Russert we’re gonna hear crud like:

“Before NAFTA was passed you supported it, now you don’t support it. How do you don’t support it. How do explain that!?? Isn’t that a flip flop??”

“Things didn’t turn out like we expected.”

“That’s not answering the question. Next topic…”

liveblogging much appreciated by those of us w/o cable tv

Probably a good thing. There was discussion in Glenn’s comments today though that the type of exchange common in the British Parliament could be useful here.

All of the blood went out of her face…

He’s so diplomatic…but watch out…she’s acting like she feeling “scorned”…

Don’t do it!!!

“We haven’t whined about it.” That is a NICE response.

You mean like THIS

and yet, here we are.

Raven posted a link to the stream from MSNBC.com at the end of the previous thread.

2 Plans and Many Questions on the Uninsured

The Quest for Healthcare

How about socialized medicine. Oh my God. Did I say “socialized”.

T-dash, you can stream the debate on line at http://www.msnbc.com

So far I’m not liking this debate.

I hope she brought her sink.

I hope it sinks in that it’s over.

No, she looks much nicer in that one.

Hillary’s making a point that if everyone isn’t included in a healthcare plan, then the “companies” will cherrypick who gets care and who doesn’t. She’s insinuating that the Pukes wrote Obama’s plan somehow.

Hill had better address Nafta and her AUMF vote, last gasp, as it where…! ;-)

They’re bickering about the differences in their insurance plans. Hillary complaining about Obama tactics attacking her plan. He defends himself well.

Hillary: It’s like the Republicans have written his attack attack on my plan

Selise unless I’m wrong people have said msnbc.com and C-span are two places for you to pick up the live stream.

$15,000,000,000 per month for unwinnable wars. But we can’t afford health care.

thanks jim and jpl9.

i think.

How does healthcare keep us safe from terrorists? Do you have an answer for that, smart guy?

I met two Norwegians in Houston the other day, and we were talking about universal healthcare. They said that they are happy to pay more taxes (they had a large incomes) in order to help those less fortunate. Why can’t this country be that compassionate??

I like Hill’s healthcare proposal better than Obama’s, Krugman thinks so too…!

Maybe we should put the mandate in the lockbox.

Im not sure I can watch her…she is seething.

Listen Here

Heh, just as secure, eh? ;-)

Hillary’s pushing that Obama has a “mandate” for parents to insure their children…and comparing it to social security…

She’s not talking about her “garnish wages” if you don’t participate or pay.

Why doesn’t one of them just say it, it’s really simple. Just two words:

SIngle Payer!

Didn’t they start the last debate with this very same argument?

Ding.

They aren’t talking about ‘health care’ they are talking about health insurance coverage. As we all know, EVERYTHING is covered under ALL insurance plans. It’s all misleading.

She’s trying to help Obama prepare for the volcanic McCain.

I’m not watching. I am letting you all give me the play by play.

Looks like you just did. Better get it copywrited for posterity (Like Pat Riley did with the term “Three-peat” – after the Bulls won 3 NBA championships in a row, he got royalties on merchandise sales).

“Smart guy”. You want to pursue that? Well we are making progress with the surge. Aren’t we smarty pants?

Obama: I’m getting filibustered….we don’t want adults to be forced to pay insurance and then penalized for not paying.

Yeah.

Obama: If we make it affordable, people will purchase it.

Exactly. The insurance companies are the problem.

Unfortunately, most of our government is in their pockets – both parties.

Some evil person posted the link, and I couldn’t help myself and clicked. I tuned in late, but so far pretty good. They are ignoring the two idiot moderators. But the candidates start letting the moderators edge in and ruin it, I will have to tune out. Gotta watch the blood pressure.

She is not going to give control back to Tim and Brian. They are going to throw the sink at HER in a minute!

thanks!

but after watching a few minutes i think i may just read the comments here.

We’re getting them shot over there so we don’t have to take care of them over here.

Protecting us from terrorists. Perfect GWB Nonsense. Let’s bounce.

I’m glad that they are debating it and not fighting….

HRC: Young people think they are immortal, and then when they get to the hospital they have no insurance….you have to cover everyone.

Up to 25 you will be covered. (Obama)

Brian mocks how much time they’ve spent on health care.

Ever had to pay your own co-pay, EVER, Brian?

On to NAFTA…

Heeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrres NAFTA!

Why has no-one coined the phrase “NAFTAmath”?

I tried but failed with “NAFTAglow”

Pissed she gets the first question ALL THE TIME.

Why have debates? Let’s just watch SNL.

Why is Hillary wasting time talking about why she gets the first question?

She just sniped him about SNL…maybe he needs another pillow…boos.

Hillary finds it “curious” that she always gets the first question.

Hil: I have been a critic of NAFTA since the beginning.

Hillary said she always gets the tough questions first.

I’m going to read comments. Thanks so much for any play by play!

I’m not sure I’m getting your point. Do you advocate staying in Iraq or leaving?

Hil: We need a plan to fix NAFTA. A trade “time out”

I don’t think in a setting where perception counts for a lot that complaining about the first questino makes her look Presidential.

Is it just my bias, or is she just not doing well at all tonight?

$15,000,000,000 per month for unwinnable wars. But we can’t afford health care.

as far as I’m concerned, health care should cost zero, zilch, nada

the corporate world needs to pay to maintain their equiptment, they need to pay to keep their workforce healthy

part of the cost of doing business

The better analogy is not ‘lets make social security voluntary’ — it’s ‘let’s privatize social security’ — we are still talking about private insurance plans by both candidates. Mandates schmandates.

I’m just snarking on our national priorities, really. In case you’re not snarking on my snarking.

Let’s get to a debate about what the real issues are, which is why I keep mentioning Obama’s tactics.

Why has no-one coined the phrase “NAFTAmath”?
I tried but failed with “NAFTAglow”

Is she goin’ NAFTA him?

Shrub and Elaine Chao have ensured that our own worker standards are now on a par with China… 8-(

“Senator Obama, would you like an opportunity to say something before my pet pitbull, Tim Russert, tears you a new one?”

FWIW, Obama is coming across as a lot calmer and more relaxed. Hillary is kind of wound up.

Yes, and yes.

Obama talking about how NAFTA has decimated industry and workers in America. “We have been devastated”

NAFTA:

HRC; I have said that we need to have a plan to fix NAFTA – trade timeout to fix it to make sure we have trade and environmental standards – stop constant sniping at us by foreign companies…I have received a lot of criticism from Obama…I would hope we can get to the real issues…NAFTA is not working…I want to fix it.

Obama: Inaccurate for HRC to say she has always opposed NAFTA, needs to be good for mainstreet not just Wall Street. HRC has shifted position on this, and that is a good thing. When I worked on the streets of Chicago, if the trade agreements were not properly structured the workers suffered. Stop tax breaks for companies shipping jobs overseas. We have to get jobs back here.

Not at all.

Now is the Tim Russert gotcha times!

I feel better, my friend. ;0)

Russert point out all the times she has supported NAFTA.

Hillary has listened to Paul Krugman; she got it right on the portion of healthcare discussed tonight. Mandates are necessary for universal coverage, which are necessary to fulfill the promise of a universal human right.

Obama had needs to learn to control his petulant body language.

Both candidates are wrong to buy in to the Williams/Russert questioning model. They are arguing with each other rather than advocating their take on the issues. The first emphasizes the theater of petty disagreement; the second leads us to the issues and which of these talents might be the better president.

TIm: “Senator Clinton, do you hate Al Gore?”

Hillary asks Tim to be fair.

Good luck with that.

Jane: “not at all” what?

NAFTA and the DLC. And HRC.

Senator Clinton, do you believe that reptiles or insects would make better planetary overlords?

She feels the pressure heavily–anyone would be. Until a few weeks ago they though they would slam him in the big 3 states. Now they know they are hanging on with numbers closing in.

Russert is creaming her on NAFTA

Is the Cleveland Plain Dealer the only paper to endorse Clinton? She doesn’t seem to be citing anyone else.

Workers are consumables in the new economy. It is cheaper to replace them than it is to repair them. When they wear out you simply get new ones…

Every major paper in Texas has endorsed Obama. We have people from Ohio here who know their papers.

oooh, if David Gergen said it, it MUST be true….

I don’t agree that “mandates” are essential to universal health care. They may be necessary for a mandatory insuance program. The only “mandate” that is essential for universal care is that people be taxed to pay for it.

She is certainly in more need of a knockout than Obama. But debate knockouts are very rare, and usually require the other candidate to stick their foot in their mouth, or serve up the perfect straight line (see Dan Quayle comparing himself to JFK).

She’s missing the point. NAFTA has resulted in jobs going out of the country! It isn’t just about labor protections…it is a horrible “agreement” that is resulting in poverty in this country.

Obama: Same position.

Russert is an asshole, and his stupid gotcha questions are ruining the debate. I don’t even support HRC as much as Obama now, but I don’t want to listen to Russert blow several minutes setting up a moronic NAFTA gotcha. Can FDL start a campaign the get rid of that guy? He is a fool.

Just tried to dishonestly corner HRC into saying in or out of NAFTA in 6 months. Yeesh.

This is what gets me steamed.

Barry: Me too!

LOL

Obama is not saying he will get out of NAFTA. Wants to try and fix it.

Good luck.

Stop with the mandates! Lindsey Graham’s panties get all moist when you talk about the mandates.

I want to get rid of the DLC. HRC is a DLC Team Leader. You decide.

The Plain Dealer is the only ‘newspaper’ in the Cleveland area. There’s the Akron paper. and there are smaller papers. The PD is teh ‘big’ paper.

Single payer. medicare for all.

Gotta have it.

Workers are not slaves to support the friggin’ companies. Where’s the sense of the community of America?

Russert needs to use Polident; his dentures are slipping. He continues to make an ass of himself playing the gotcha game, confusing it with tough questioning. He cites Clinton comments from nearly eight years ago on NAFTA, which events have superceded. Russerts “opt out” of NAFTA discussion shows him not as tough, but as petulant as George Bush ordering a drink at an AA meeting.

Obama is getting his stride on the NAFTA issue.

The reason jobs are going out of the country is because we can’t compete with other countries because the playing field isn’t level in terms of labor and environmental laws, and of course health care.

my msnbc keep shutting does to buffer. Is there anyway to stream the sound only?

MSNBC stream is sucking – any others out there?

Russert is teeing up questions for July 2009. “In the debate in February 2008, President Obama/Clinton, you said you’d opt out of NAFTA. Why are we still in NAFTA?”

NAFTA…throw the workers a bone and they’ll shut up.

Hillary is right. Think about it. Throughout the debates, Hillary has been asked the academic questions first. Barack then gets to respond, and always agrees with Hillary on the important issues.

Russert is an asshole, and his stupid gotcha questions are ruining the debate. I don’t even support HRC as much as Obama now, but I don’t want to listen to Russert blow several minutes setting up a moronic NAFTA gotcha. Can FDL start a campaign the get rid of that guy? He is a fool.

Just tried to dishonestly corner HRC into saying in or out of NAFTA in 6 months. Yeesh.

This is what gets me steamed.

Yeah me, too. It would be honorable if he were consistent. he’s not. He’s a fucking pushover for the administration. We already know what THEy think of him.

Obama’s talking out of both sides of his mouth about trade–it’s funny. And they both voted for Peru.

yeah, it’s like ‘creeking’ out or something.

The reason the jobs are going out of the country is because they get cheap labor and make more profit.

Useful. Idiot.

Just looking at the body language, Obama comes across as someone who can disagree with you without hating you. Clinton seems to have a viscerable dislike of Obama.

Russert read her economic plan. This might be interesting.

totally–it makes it much much easier for Obama–he only has to respond to what she says.

It’s clear that both Clinton and Obama see these issues on a completely different level than the one where Timmeh is setting up his gotcha’s. They’re doing a pretty good job of making him irrelevant.

I don’t think Obama agrees with Hillary on the ‘important issue’ of Iraq. ;0)

Exactly.

I’ll try to be a less useful, idiot. :-))

streaming. so it’s msnbc not me. tried Cleveland channel 3 and the screen is dark. shoot.

Or not.

but Obama rarely even looks at her when she’s talking–enormously disrespectful.

Agree in part. The govt portion of universal health care, like SS or paying for the DoD, requires universal paying in. That’s necessary, eg, to cover the young and poor who are otherwise unable to find health care.

right, and that’s largely because of the lack of labor laws in the other countries. This is not complicated.

Yes you can stream sound at the green button here

Hillary and Al Gore dislike each other. Very much.

I do like Hillary’s point that her job growth prediction was based on Al Gore being president. Heh.

I think she almost said “first Clinton Administration”

They are both making good points. Damn, now she mentioned Bill. Don’t do that. Speak for yourself.

Oh, not you, in case that wasn’t obvious.

Hill just a little too wonky. Wish she would just boil it down.

Of course, but it is bad for this country.

Thanks for all the comments. The MSNBC stream is awful. Cspan will not have the audio up until 10:30.

Actually, they are pretty much in agreement on Iraq.

Yeah, read her economic plan IN DETAIL, and then asked a really stupid gotcha question.

YAY TIMMY!

No. The reason jobs are leaving the country is because Bill Clinton signed NAFTA and GATT and removed all tariff protections for our labor force.

Companies immediately moved all of their manufacturing offshore resulting in that Great Sucking Sound that Ross Perot spoke of.

McCain has vast foreign policy expertise????

Look Hillary, your husband was the first head of the DLC, loved the “Third Way” and pushed NAFTA through.

Brian sez McCain has “vast foreign policy experience and expertise.”

Glad we’ve settled that for viewers.

Both their campaigns take millions from the same companies that go overseas–neither of them will really do anything about trade at all–and Congress is in the same boat.

He spent a lot of time in Vietnam.

Obama: We are not more safe. We are bogged down in a war that McCain suggests would go on for 100 years.

Brian Williams says McCain has vast foreign policy expertise?

Single payer. medicare for all.

Gotta have it.

That’s not a mandate on insurance plans. That’s a government-run system of universal coverage. I’m not sure that companies will not be able to avoid dumping people onto other plans…and if they find that they won’t be able to they’ll simply find ways of paring off services (driving people into the other plans).

It was – I’m just messin’ wid ya.

Sorry. I don’t go for your assertion. ;0)

Yup.

I think the msnbc site is slammed and their IT didn’t plan for it. Its the only page I can’t load right now.

Are you advocating protectionism?

Idiot.

Hit back on the presumption of the question about McCain’s experience and expertise, please….

I wish our candidates would begin to move the frame from “the war” to “the occupation”.

Geez. Not the Commander in Chief crap.

Jobs were leaving before Clinton got in–Gephardt ran as a protectionist all thru the 80s when it was jobs going to Mexico and not everywhere. By the time of NAFTA it was worldwide.

HRC’s extensive experience in foreign policy?

He didn’t have a chance to read the NIE; you did, lady.

Absolutely.

Oops, forgot the “/Napoleon Dynamite” tag…

Williams’ description of the ”extensive and credible” of the GOP opponent is one hell of a suck up. Puhleeeze. Both candidates need to concentrate more on making their message points, not responding to questions about personal attacks on each other, which Williams and especially Russert love.

Here – WKYC is up; there’s live comments as well.

http://www.wkyc.com/video/news/breaking/

HRC: I have extensive foreign policy experience…When credentials are brought up, Obama is to be commended for his position in 2002, but he agreed with W in 2004, and we have voted the same ever since, so the fair comparison is that when we both had responsibility, where is the comparison. Last summer Obama threatened to bomb Pakistan…shit!

peter, the green cspan button takes me to a campaign finance chat. is it me or cspan?

Clinton’s argument about Iraq boils down to: since he’s been in the Senate, his (Obama’s) judgment has been the same as (as good as) mine.

Russert and Williams are doing a dandy parody of SNL.

So Hillary is saying that Obama, on Iraq, was wrong like me.

Hillary framing Obama as a naive babe in the woods on foreign policy. Again.

Selective protectionism, that is.

The system that seemed to work just fine for us for about 200 years.

She’s gotta score some body blows here, on the national security stuff.

She travelled over 80 countries–most of them as the President’s wife.

Here’s a much better stream

http://www.wkyc.com/video/news/breaking/

Oops. Low blow by HRC. Who’t been threatening to bomb countries? I think that is Cheney/Bush.

Obama thinks the “i’ll bomb Pakistan even if i don’t have permission” thing gives him cred–it doesn’t, and it makes a mockery of sovereignty like Bush did. How would we like it if some other country did that to us?

CSPAN audio starts at 10:30

At the very least, couldn’t we have a liberal co-moderator to balance out Brian Williams, instead of… another Republican?

Well, I agree we need some protections, maybe something like tax incentives for companies that don’t outsource.

It said it takes you to the debae and someone said that won’t happen until about 10 something Eastern. I have looked hard for other streams–they must be around but I sure can’t find them.

On Day 1 in the US Senate, Obama voted exactly as badly as she did–this whole thing is dumb.

This is over.

Knock out! HRC facilitated and enabled W on Iraq. Brilliant.

Thank you Wordsmith, that link works great

Whooie. Bus into the ditch.

Obama says Clinton put the bus in the ditch, and he’s voted to help get it out.

Hillary is misrepresenting the situation regarding Obama’s position on Iraq. “Many” people didn’t oppose the war…but she did fail to join with fellow Democratic Senators who made different choices. Obama was running a Senate campaign, so he was at some risk to having people attack him for his position. In fact Clinton was a bit more secure…she was four years from an election.

And in 2004 he didn’t say that Bush was right…he said that the policies in the war were misguided.

Um, I’m not sure that using the Bush administration’s actions as vindication for your Pakistan policy is such a great idea…

He comes across as wet behind the ears. I’m sure McCain will point that out in the general.

Both candidates records weak on their leadership wrt to Iraq and foreign policy while in national office, I think.

Obama: “A clean break against Bush and Cheney.”

Not hardly. He led the fight for Ethics reformand specifically for revealing earmarks. Clinton explicitly voted to table his earmark sunshine–she voted with the Chairman of the Escort Service Committee Hooker Vitter.

Hillary looks SO pissed.

Obama: If Iraq tells us to leave, we should leave.

WTF kinda question was that, Timmeh…???

Thanks for the link..

Obama has also been steadfast in blocking the idiot and crook Hans Van Spakovsky on the FEC. Hillary has been silent.

…And then says a lot of stuff that would keep us there, if I heard it right.

except he’s not a clean break at all–neither of them are.

Obama wants our puppets in Iraq to tell us to leave? Sure. When pigs fly. How about the majority of Iraqis–they already want us gone.

Correct. Based on that limited assumption of experience, perhaps we should one day elect Laura Bush as president.

What is with Russert and his idiot hypotheticals? And Russerts Iraq hypothetical is submoronic.

They are getting more elaborate and assinine with each new topic.

Both candidates gave too much on Williams’ assertion of McCain’s expertise – ON ANY ISSUE, especially his judgment. Both should focus on how their program would be different from Bush’s.

Russert on ”Will You Leave” if a ”sovereign” Iraqi govt tells us to is argumentative, but could be used as a good lead in to the candidate’s message points about how they see Iraq. They cannot take Russert’s question at face value and just answer it within its purposely limited framework. This question, in particular, sets up the GOP ”cut and run” canard.

Who really thinks the Iraqis are going to tell us to leave?

He’s just trying to reach across the aisle in a spirit of “post-partisanship”.

Right. And from the Clintons perhaps.

And Hillary just called him on it.

thanks for the link, it’s working, now I can eat dinner!

Tim, just how could we tell if Iraq goes to hell? Isn’t it already there?

but earmark sunshine has done nothing about stopping or even limiting them–they have no shame–neither party. It’s a joke.

It was useless, like that stupid lobbyist thing where Senators can go and eat with them but can’t sit down–it’s a farce.

“Well, it isn’t reality” Take that, Pumpkinhead.

She shouldn’t have dodged the hypothetical. :(

Russert thinks the debates about about him, and not the cadidates.

Hilary just told Tim to STFU. Twice.

Thank you, Hill for putting Timmeh in his place!

On day FISA last in the Senate Obama voted on every amendment. Clinton told her driver not to go near the Senate even though she was miles away.

And Chris Dodd endorsed Obama today. Chris Dodd has about 20 something years in the Senate. That’s experience. Clinton has 7 years; Obama 4.

The MSM has trouble counting this–maybe they don’t have all the fingers on their hands.

Russert thinks his idiot questions are reality?

Good. We can get to guy in for three days of observation.

Fuckin take down Timmeh….Barack and Hillary tag team…do it!

Iraqi puppets: Get out now, we don’t want more US dollars in our private bank accounts!

(yeah, right)

it’s possibly (although highly unusual) that bush did one thing right re: going after al qaeda in pakistan.

If Iraqi government says get out.

Obama: We can be in partnership with Iraq for safety and to assure our national security interests. We will negotiate with them, but we will not be held hostage by Iraq. We will help them. Phased withdrawal.

HRC: They need to take responsibility for themselves.

Russert: What if AQ rises up??? bugga, bugga

HRC: That is a hypothetical, and I am trying to stop W from keeping us there for 100-1000 years by an agreement.

“He’s not held one substantive hearing” Yeah, Hil!

But Russert’s not running.

Those reforms were not a farce.

This is true. I’m just saying that “Look, the Bushies agree with me!” is probably not the most compelling possible argument.

no–he didn’t– read this– http://www.senate.gov/legislat…..vote=00020

he showed up only the one day the cameras were all there.

yup – dodging the hypothetical is the bushies mo

Russert: If John McCain were here now, which one of you would blow him and do you think you can do it better than me?

prove it–this says otherwise–Lobbyists are thriving under our control of Congress– Democratic majority good for K Street’s bottom line — http://thehill.com/business…..02-23.html

” New limits on the access lobbyists have to lawmakers have not hurt K Street’s bottom line as several top lobbying shops reported strong revenue growth in 2007. … “

, and earmarks are not at all down.

Mr. BSRH is ok w. my political obsessiveness but can’t stand the ping pong sound that goes with the cleveand stream. is msnbc anyless sucky now or cspan working

…And Brian Williams starts waving his hand furiously.

the monetary value of earmarks have decreased by over 50% since the 06 elections

ABG–

I follow FISA’s every twitch. He showed up on the last day when the amendments were voted on.

He left on the final S. 2248 that was creamed. He stayed for the amendment votes. They were also doomed to begin with because they were set up to fail. She refused to go to the Senate that day.

They have both praised Dodd to the skies as has FDL and he has a lot to praise.

He endorsed Obama today.

Russert’s smarmy criticism of HRC over releasing her tax and other records takes the cake. HRC whiffed on a high fastball by not reaming Bush/Cheney about their ubiquitous secrecy.

Russert with the Farakahn (sp) support for Obama is also bogus. Farakahn has a vote, just like Russert; both are free to support whomever they want for president. Russert tries to drive a wedge into the Jewish vote, citing Farakahn’s support. I guess the point is not to feed or water Russert after nightfall: you just get more fat gremlins.

Williams acts like a babysitter who’s so preoccupied, he doesn’t notice the kids in the pool. Why is he there?

HRC’s foreign policy response was several notches up from Obama’s. Make her Sec’y of State, Barack. Obama takes back the momentum with his soliloquy about doing right by the American people, what government is supposed to be about.

And WTF was Russert with asking what would HRC or Obama like to do over? He refuses to raise the issue with Bush and Cheney, who’ve repeatedly claimed there’s nothing they would do over?

Smart redirect of Williams smarmy question about what Obama would like HRC to do differently.

Obama sure rambles on. I wish I could get all starry-eyed over him but I am just not feeling it. I will vote for him in the general if it comes down to that.