"Twenty debates is enough, Mom."
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I’m still with Obama.
Mama,
My dogs said the same thing and they are going at each other!
This is giving me a headache.
Our sentiments exactly
You can’t make a silk purse outta them sow’s ears. hahahaha
I’m with Jane.
It’s all about Timmeh…
Great picture Jane.
did Obama answer the question about why he hasn’t held hearings on his committee?
“Television doesn’t stop.”
Jane, You look great in that photo by the way.
Anything hot in the book salon?
How about Noam Chomsky? Or Howard Zinn?
Brian sez television doesn’t stop, they must go to a break.
OK. Obama just called America “Homeland.” Gag.
Obama is head of Subcommittee on Afghanistan but hasn’t performed oversight, because he was campaigning.
Obama: I’ve been speaking to the American people about Afghanistan and Iraq.
Im with Kiddo and Obama is doing a great job and Hillary has been rude. Her anger is hard to watch.
I vote for no more debates moderated by Russert and Williams.
DICK CHENEY CONTROLS TIM RUSSERT
Lucy literally climbed up on my shoulder and put her butt in my face. She weighs about 55 lbs.
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!
Specifically or in general? ;0)
No.
This has been another edition of …
they are just looking for “good TV” and not a debate.
KO and Rachel should have handled this debate.
Barrack comes across as more sophisticated, more sure of himself. He’s got more on the ball concerning the issues than she does. She’s definitely more emotional at this point. Seems like she’s looking for a fight and not getting what she wants.
The Saturday Night Live skit was really funny, but, the most important
quality in a president is temperment, and that is Obama’s strong suit…
he has plenty of intellect, but cool cannot be faked and is a life saver.
I don’t blame her…dogs know better.
Yeah, I should be so lucky! :-)
This “Hearings” issue is one that kept me off the Obama bandwagon for a while. He doesn’t have a good answer to it. Still though, for me Hillary has many more of these problematic issues than Obama.
This ones a snorer, for policy wonks…filled with minutia (or is it minutiae).
Don’t think that this approach is going to help Hillary so much…but it may slow Obamas momentum by gumming up everyones ears with pine tar.
I vote for no more *anything* with Tim Russert or Brian Williams. Feh.
Hey, I wonder if Brian Williams will be such a fawning fanboy if he gets an interview with a Democratic preznit.
Oh, wait. No I don’t.
Lucy!
Does Hillary chair any committee or subcommittee?
gagging here too!
Sounds like she means it…! ;-)
Joy does that, but she only weighs six.
I prefer watching ballet to watching Lorin Mazel conduct.
HRC seems angry tonight. Obama, not so much perhaps.
They spent 16 minutes on Health care, but neither moderator understood the subject well enough to further the understanding about “mandates.” That’s irresponsible.
My take so far is simple: if this is a draw, it’s a major loss for Clinton.
I’m positive they’d have asked real and pertinent questions! None of Timmeh’s hypotheticals…!
If he’s not angry he hasn’t been paying attention.
Hillary continues to beat the drum on Obama’s willingness to meet with evil dictators without preconditions. Progressive Democrats agree with Obama. Shunning Castro has failed everyone, especially the people of Cuba. Why does Hillary keep touting her unpopular position on this?
Playing Hillary’s “celestial choirs singing” speech.
carry over from old thread– response to RobZuber @ 250
this says otherwise–Lobbyists are thriving under our control of Congress– Democratic majority good for K Street’s bottom line —
http://thehill.com/business…..02-23.html
” New limits on the access lobbyists have to lawmakers have not hurt K Street’s bottom line as several top lobbying shops reported strong revenue growth in 2007. … “
, and earmarks are not at all down.
Another gotcha against Hillary. Way to go. Oops, it was in error! Darn, we made a mistake!
Great clip. Somebody in the control room is gonna be fired tonight!
Not the tape MSNBC meant to play; Hill laughs, quite sure it’s another example of media bias, I’m sure
His response to Clinton trying to mock him is *really* good. It’s good-natured, funny, and respectful.
I dont think the audience understands the details. I find it hard to follow as well.
Christ! Can you believe it? They can’t even get the tapes right.
MSNBC should never be allowed to host another debate.
Clintons’ subcommittees:
Senate Committee on Environment & Public Works
~ Subcommittee on Superfund and Environmental Health (Chair)
Subcommittee Clean Air and Nuclear Safety
Subcommittee on Transportation and Infrastructure
Senate Armed Services Committee
Subcommittees: Airland, Emerging Threats and Capabilities, Readiness and Management Support
Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor & Pensions
Subcommittees:Children and Families, Employment & Workplace Safety.
Senate Special Committee on Aging
Obama has a good heart.
“another debate?” oh please noes
Yeah, they only favor Obama on accident!
She should stay on them all.
Gawd he’s nailing it.
Obama sowing more hope.
he’s talking about the lobbying thing now–disclosure is meaningless when the system runs on money and access to power, and Congresspeople depend on that money to stay in office–it’s done nothing to help.
Just got in from a meeting.
Did I miss anything?
HRC: Being mischevious…okay.
What whiney crap that is.
Thus far my SOD (significant other Democrat), Lahoma, has not generated an opinion on this debate. But that opinion is coming. I can assure you.
I don’t think she should talk about her toe-to-toe with the health insurers and big pharma fifteen years ago. She lost that, and we all suffer.
Obama has the presence. That counts for a lot. the bumbling lying GWB has hurt our Country.
Hillay says I,I ,I Obama says we. We, our country, led by me.
Fox would’ve never played the wrong tape. See, Hillary is right…Fox is better
Did she help herself by bringing up the failure to pass health care 15 years ago?
Oh well, I can’t wait till the Obama-McCain debates: “Oops, sorry Barack, we played the wrong tape again!”
the Cheney energy bill hit was good– Obama should never have voted for it.
It was about transparency, which is the important first step. Transparency is not Hillary’s strong suit. Citing that earmarks have increased is not a relevant criticism of that reform.
WaaaaaaaWaaaaaaaaa
Ding. Well said.
this debate is like an very special episode of Meet the Press-ugh.
HRC it seems, appears to be on the attack tonight.
“Senator has somehow cast herself as co-president”
Clinton wants to help the middle class. What about us working poor? I never hear about that.
It’s a plot
She thinks voting for Bush’s bankruptcy bill was fighting the lobbyists? Did she say that?
Just the usual. Clinton said Obama was the kindest, most warm-hearted, decent human being she’d every met. Obama said there were many things he agreed with her about. Russert tried to make them fight and was upset when they spent 16 minutes arguing about mandates and 14 more on NAFTA. Jane’s dogs have voted against more debates.
oh come on, Obi – of course you were implying that “co-president” wasn’t relevant! (and the “tea drinking” comment didn’t sit well with me…
Disclosure is a critical first step. What is your solution? And has Hillary proposed that solution?
Transparency is meaningless when it doesn’t change behavior or punish those who misuse their power.
No one gets punished or thrown out of office even when we know how many earmarks they did. No one gets punished or thrown out when they disclose a lobbyist vacation to the Islands. …
Oh Ding!
I voted for it, but hoped it wouldn’t pass..
Seems I read somewhere where Sen. Clinton was the second largest receiver of Health care industry monies.
Frontline is ON
Hillary has a soft point for Obama. They like each other. I’d hate to be in that position. I think she’s pretty proud of him.
I agree with Jane’s dogs. Thanks for the update. It kind of sounds like the last several debates redux.
thanks, that what hope is. how often have we wanted to be part of everything going on.
Obama makes me feel good, hope isnt enough but the American people need to be part of the “we”
What you won’t hear tonight:
“Hey Tim I have a power point on my tax returns, the library contributors and amounts, and the 1.5 million health care docs I won’t release.”
Rezko–although Tucker who doesn’t have a clue about it except that there is a trial did a feeble attempt to revive it today.
Obama: The American people have to pay attention to what their government is doing.
You go Barack!!
ah–his public financing flip-flop!
So is Tennessee and Vandy
She thinks voting for Bush’s bankruptcy bill was fighting the lobbyists?
I thought she was visiting Bill in the hospital that day? Do you mean another bill?
Barack is really gracious.
russert is wearing what he thinks are his set of big testicles tonight…
She’ll say that includes Nurses and Doctors unions.
Nice softball; hit it Barack!
I thought his face looked a little puffier.
I know that McCain and the Repubs are obssessed with making the campaign “fair for both sides.” Especially his 327s and the Malkinistas on Right Wing radio.
Yeah, well, Fitz is going to make a feeble attempt to revive it next Monday.
Huh?!? McCain said “let’s do it” about taking public financing?
McCain just sent a letter saying he was opting out of the public financing system for the primary.
What the hell is pumpkinhead smoking?
Gawd. The man is really something. This is historical. He can handle them all.
There’s no flip-flop there. That’s a false charge.
how male of him.
Gotcha doesn’t work for him very well anymore.
and Rob, if they really wanted to change the system, they would have built punishments and fines into the bills–they didn’t because they rely on lobbyist and big business–and they rely on earmarks to bring home the pork to their districts, which keeps them in office for life. There’s no impetus to change the system at all, and Obama didn’t push for any.
Russert lost whatever testicles he might have had LONG ago.
I’m still with Obama. Hillary still won’t say voting to authorize Bush was a mistake. Until she does that, she stinks, pure and simple.
Well this debate has inspired me to go to bed early.
gnight
Okay…..hear comes the Clinton powerpoint on her taxes. Front and friggin center. And the library.
I agree. Obama whiffed by not going after McLiar on that
Especially since they are treating poor Hillary sooooo unfair, Waaaaaaaaaah
Does your “they” include Hillary? And are you proposing fines for earmarks? How does that work?
HRC is blowing the tax form release bit.
He never received the memo, Jane! ;-)
McCain can’t opt out from what i’ve read–he’s stuck.
See, sorry PetePierce, if you are still here. I was just going to write something about the candidates, and Russert wastes more time with an idiot gotcha question.
And futher, and idiot question that furthers McCain’s pre-emptive BS strike against Obama on public campaign finance. Coinkyden
“So you may opt out of public financing, you may break your word”
OK that cuts it for me. Why is not Obama shouting the miserable dishonest idiot GOP operative Russert off the fricken stage?
seriously, can we start an e-mail to ban Russert from moderating debates. We can add stooopid to slanted for this one.
All in due time, he’s gotta dust her first.
I took a nap this afternoon, about 45 min. So I’m not sleepy. But Russert might change that.
No Hillary the people who support you maxed out their $4200 contributions. Ron Burkle funded your $5 million loan.
“I will release my returns after the primary is over and I’m returned to the Senate to support President Obama. I’m too busy to release my tax returns and millionaires don’t have accountants of course.”
Lahoma has now released her opinion on who the winner is of tonight’s debate.
Well, they are. We’ll see who’s crying in the general.
bourbonballs
Not only that, he let Timmeh get away with false framing of the question.
Whoa, Farakan
She’s number uno…displaced her good friend the Liarman for the spot.
I think the current FEC discussion with McCain is for the remainder of the primary season until the convention. Not to defend him, but I think Timmeh was asking specifically about public funding for the general.
“Do you accept the support of Louis Farrakhan?”
You are delusional
here’s TalkingPointsMemo on McCain/FEC — http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpoi…..ad_284.php
“Do you reject his support?”
I really hate Russert
HRC is all over the road on the tax return questions….now documents..ouch, ouch, ouch…I’ve urged the process to be as quickly as possible…yikes…now she throws it at Bush.
Scrotim.
I wasn’t coming down on you for criticizing Timmy, but he’s about trying to make Debate moments and TV as most of them are.
I’ll say this though. I think that these questions are fairly decent tonight for the candidates as compared with the other debates. I sure like the no applause because that wastes time and tempts them to pop zingers that are applause lines that mean nothing to me.
kido, I’m dying here…what is it!?
ahhh.
Russert really is a tool–he thinks these “gotchas” help us choose a president–they don’t.
No, I just haven’t drunk the kool aid.
“Do you agree with everything your minister says?”
Tim is wasting everyones time. He is such a &*%*
Yea, tell me how unfair they are being to Hillary now.
We dislike Mr. Russert very much.
I hope Russert’s next gig will be in Dumbfuckistan, they need him there…
Obama always stutters when he’s not comfortable with a question.
OK, who is worse, Pumpkinhead or Tweety?
STFU Tim.
BTW if you look on Jane’s earlier thread about the FEC Cboldt probably had the most accurate scenario predicted.
Russert is a tool.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
Lets see how many reactionary right wingnut radio hosts Russert asks McCain to repudiate.
Russert is WAY over the line on Nation of Islam. WAY WAY over the line.
OK now the fat stinking racist Russert is going third order sister soldjah action. Need to monitor Russert for double standards on this garbage.
Waht the FUCK is wrong with Russert????
kiddo –
Dislike doesn’t begin to describe it tonight. MyGawd!
Don’t get crabby!
Tweety is worse: he’s a complet misogynist
I wish Obama would ignore Pumpkinhead’s question and use the time to give him a quick lesson in basic logical reasoning. What an assclown.
Russert is being a conduit for a second-hand smear against Obama over which Obama had/has no control. Obama would do well to denounce Russert to his face.
I wish fat ass Russert would invite Darth Vader on his show to ask him to release records of who he met with while crafting the so called energy bill since he’s so fucking interested in who Clinton met with when she was first lady. Unfuckingbelieveable! Russert sucks complete ass.
wait–Obama is praising the “partisan fights of the 60s” now (like for civil rights)?
You need to make up your mind.
“Not only have I been strong in Isreal…”
Pumpkinhead is worse because he’s seen as “serious” and “important”
Tweety is a joke and everyone knows it.
Senator Obama.
disagree at least on this current exchange. Quoting O’s pastor and trying to attribute Wright’s views regarding Farrakahn to O is bullsh*t.
I say something from the pulpit and one of my parishioners is accused of something because I say it? Many many wrong things about that inference.
My dog is apolitical. i really need to get him involved. I thought it was too much about 15 debates ago. I’m not counting HRC out yet.
You know this is coming from the puns so it is probably ok for it to be dealt with now.
Would Lahoma please tell us who won.
All Russert likes to do is play gotcha; his frames are almost always black and white, ranging from superficial to idiotic. What a tool. This whole debate is just a bad MTP episode, without the P. It’s just “Meet Timmeh.”
I agree.
Pubs
I’m not watching. Was that an actual question?
Oops, that comment wasn’t in response to you.
The smartest thing Clinton could have done in the last five minutes was to jump in and tell Russert what a stupid question that was and defend Obama. It would have been of major benefit to her.
She just blew it.
Well, OK there we disagree. I think Russert stinks. But, I didn’t listen to all of last Russer moderated debate, and missed the parts with his crusade against honest discussion of social security. I read the transciprt, but did not have to hear the junk.
She is so full of shit
Obama’s right here. Public financing is optional, and just because you support it (and would support making it compulsory), doesn’t mean that you should opt to committing electoral suicide.
Accepting the framing of Jewish=automatic no-questions-asked support of Israel is harmful and insulting to me and mine. They need to stop it. It’s false too.
Give it a rest, HC, you both are fine on that question.
Hey guys. Know what? Russert doesn’t bother me that much.
More semantics from Clinton. There’s a real vote getter.
What happened to Brian Williams nose?
Hey, BFL! Did ya lose power today…?
One of the debaters is really starting to piss me off.
Best line of the night. That is debate. Picking the word and throwing it back at her.
Ah shit! there goes the feed!
Russert has a talent for selfpromotion and not much else.
Obama just did the job on the HRC attempt on the anti-semetic business.
Wow. I’m breathless. He’s a movement. What a brilliant guy.
Hey BFL, have the stroms passed through your area yet? Gator baseball got rained out tonight so I was stuck with the debate.
Any update on Larry Craig’s intern hiring? My daughter wants to know.
Oops. Hilary walked into that one. Reject…renounce.
And, just for the heck of it, one more time, Tim irritates my last nerve.
But then there’ll never be public financing until someone shows courage and leadership and starts it rolling. It ensures it’ll never happen if you refuse it but think it’s right and better for the country.
Who, pray tell?
Clinton’s being a tool.
Obama.
L.
I always wonder how to quantitate the impact that debates have despite all the hype. I think it’s minimal compared to the organizations on the ground and the phone banks in the crucial states.
It comes back after commercials
Reject or denounce? Pearls or diamonds?
Hillary is trying to make a stronger word into the weaker, and has been humorously skewered for it!
Oh! It’s back. it’s a meericle!
I know. It’s frickin’ amazing.
Love you man…..
Sorry.
Do you denounce and disagree and reject and double denounce and triple double dog repudidudiduate? Will you go out personally a prevent all Nation of Islam supporters from voting for you? will piss on a Louie Farrakhan poster, with notorized witnesses? will do same for this my list of your friend who I say are nation of islam supporters, you probably angry out of control muslim scary black dude.
Russert wandered into right wing radio territory in my opinion.
DICK CHENEY CONTROLS TIM RUSSERT
Is thr debate on MSNBC?
FYI Kos is down
That’s being kind
Senator Clinton. That last semantics crap was over the edge.
HRC insists on the Beginite, Irgun line of revisionist zionism as a
viable US policy in the ME… it has not brought anything but ruin to
Israel and our policy there.
With Hillary, everything is on the come.
Hillary says little that one can take to the bank.
Timmeh, Tweety, all these looney tunes, if they were fired tomorrow, few would notice. There is no great groundswell of support for them. They do not increase ratings. In fct, I bet ratings would go up if more competent hosts were put in their places.
Yet, decades laters they’re still there. They exist to advance BigMoney-approved narratives onto the electorate. Nothing more, nothing less.
Absolute joke.
yes
yes
THE SUN COMES UP IN THE EAST!
Obama
LS
Local news broadcasts will carry snippets of the debate and that’s the real influence, so it depends on local news editors what gets spun. But generally, you’re right.
Loose group out here tonight. Kinda fun having two good candidates going at it. I choose Obama. His Afrikan dress makes me wish I could go business casual.
Fuck Cheeneeee!
oh, great, the National Journal rating of Obama as “most liberal”
I think I heard chuckles from the audience on that one.
Contact msnbc:
letters@msnbc.com
From reading the comments, we’re not missing much…
Jack Welch/GE/corporate behemoth controls all of them on NBC and MSNBC.
Obama calls these ratings “silly”
Oh, no! Obama is a liberal!
The Liberal Left. Leaving only the wingnuts.
yes–and it audio streams on http://www.cspan.org about now–the msnbc stream has been weak people say. I couldn’t get their webpage to load or find other sites for people to stream.
I’m proud to be supporting the “most liberal” Senator.
Did Hillary renounce that clown that introduced her the other day screeching about “latte-drinking, Prius driving…etc. Liberals that are Obama’s base according to this idiot?
I mean, the dude was up on stage with her.
Oh, the great martyr Hillary is getting treat badly because she is a woman
I’m just getting here. Some family drama has made it impossible to really watch. Snippets when I could. Need you all to let me know if I missed anything unusual.
If every one who accepts it loses to the big money people you’ll never get it passed. Who’ll be in Congress? Obama actually can take it to McCain and say…look I’ve got this huge public support now…do you want to face that “surge”? Or do you want to limit your expenditures.
You need to have a Bill that makes it mandatory on everyone, though. For THAT you need votes.
Brilliant. He rawks….
Oh good. He’s saying he’s not a liberal! Whew!
I was scared there. He sounds like Dukakis, saying we shouldn’t categorize him.
“Progressive” isn’t the new “liberal”, it’s the new way forward. Go Obama!
It is much better than that, sorry you cannot see it for yourself,
Ever notice how anyone they run against gets the “most liberal” rating?
You crack me up!
But he just said he’s not a liberal.
he shouldn’t brag about Repubs voting for him in primaries/caucuses– http://www.chron.com/disp/stor…..69829.html
“… 15 percent of Texas Republicans who said they will support the GOP nominee in November plan nonetheless on voting for Obama next week. …”
Neither of them accept that label. It’s not exactly breaking news. Liberals don’t support anti flag burning bills.
The candidate bashing is getting reaaaallllllyyyyyyyy old.
In chorus with those complimeting the photo, damn skippy ya look great, particularly now that we see yiz widout a damn Yankees cap perched atop your dome.
Enough is enough, I want both Hillary and Barry.
Hillary changed her meds for this debate – from the “constant smirk” pill to the “I’m not really here” pill!
Why, don’t you like the idea of the Pukes picking our nominee for us?
The GOP considers Hitler a liberal.
I think HRC is for Obama!!! How cool is that.
That’s the Russkie candidates
Yeah, we know, he’s only won those “insignificant” states.
Present, and proud of it on all counts.
He isn’t.
Must be the Islamo-Fascists using their WMD’s (Weather of Mass Destruction)!
Obama does the job on Bush and Putin.
I don’t know because I dropped my latte when I heard him. She craves any union vote she can get because Texas is even in the polls so she desperately needs the unions who are rushing to endorse Obama in Ohio and Penn.
I knew she couldn’t say/remember the name or she would have done it in the first two words of the sentence. Not that it really matters.
She always turns to Madeline to try to figure out Russia–and Bill has his own ideas.
I’d be real careful with that US.
You’re right, of course, but it still pisses me off every time I hear one of them deny being a liberal.
they didn’t make it mandatory because the system runs on money–and all candidates are apparently ok with that, even tho they talk nice when it comes to public financing–all it takes is that “change” and “new way of doing things” i hear so much about–1 brave candidate to do it and win using it. It takes creativity and outside help–which they all get anyway.
The question about our relationship with Russia again goes to Clinton again. He responds.
Oh, christ – another strange IF scenario. Now the communists are rising from teh dead.
if they’re answering questions about Putin and his” successor,” then we’re watching in real time on their web page.
“Senator Obama, suppose Aliens were to invade the Earth and inform us that unless we give them all our iPods, they will destroy the planet. Would you negotiate with terrorists to save the planet?”
Classy BO on Clinton/Kosovo.
Who would have thought years ago that Al Franken running for the Senate in Minnesota this November has probably spent the most time pushing public financing?
Lahoma tells me we are looking at our new president. President Obama. I agree.
Whatever you say, sugar booger.
Why can’t she just admit that she made a goddamn mistake!
For Hillary:
The Dream is Over!!!!
well, first of all, i said in an earlier comment that russert doesn’t bother me much. but i’m not waatching the debate and have read some of the comments here about his questions concerning farakhan, NOI. Take back what I said. Russert sucks.
OK. On my way home it got black and poured. I mean POURED. When I got home the electricity was working but the clocks were all flashing. So I guess we did. this winter has sucked weather wise.
damn right–gaming the system is beyond messed up–and our system is messed up enough anyway to begin with.
she’d have taken back her vote on authorizing war in iraq. she doesn’t mention also voting for authorization of war with iran.
Is there something wrong with Lattes or a Prius.
Because she can’t be wrong, just like this other jackass.
I don’t know what unique qualifications Clinton has to deal with Putin. I just must not be reading enough.
Russert knows more than either one about Putin’s puppet, his age, his job, his boxer short size.
I love Al Franken. :) I’d love to see his speeches from the floor of the Senate. And he could host SNL!
Quay Lude appears to have made his choice.
think both candidates and the well informed Timmy missed basic point on Medvedev -he is an long time Putin crony. HRC was more on point than Timmy’s list of trivia.
What will Russerts next foreign question be? What if the Boy Scout Leaders are really agents of our Reptiloid masters in league with Al Qaeda, and take the grand canyon hostage? Do you kill all the geckos? Yes or No?
He has defused her raging ass
National Journal does that every election cycle…they drop people during their electoral off-years, and then make them more liberal when they have to run for office.
I was just there. It was up for me.
they’re all hot for Putin–he’s butch and a criminal (which is how they like em–McCain, Putin, Bush in a flightsuit, Cheney, DeLay, ….)
He will be great. The senate needs a bit of comic relief.
According to a Hillary “surrogate” and Introducer, there’s a lot wrong with those things.
is it my tv, or is Hillary’s face quite red?
Barack is delivering a very thoughtful eulogy for Hillary. She doesn’t look happy.
Has anyone mentioned that Russert sucks?
If you heard any of his radio show on Air America–he had great guests and I don’t think people realize how serious he is and he’s exponentially more qualified than more than half of what’s in the House and Senate.
They were here about 6-7. Nasty. tornado warning. this ain’t Kansas, Toto. we ain’t prepared for that shit.
I think its your tv – she looks nice on mine…
better living through chemistry
I listened to about 80% of them! I miss it. I miss the “Johnny Alter” song.
Franken rocks–i just hope he stays loud when he gets in.
You must be watching something else!
Obama’s been great all night. I will be curious as to what Olberman and Tweety will discuss after. He definelty cut her wings tonight.
So you are saying that Obama should turn away millions in small contributions from the Public and allow McCain to raise about 4 times as much in lobbyist money? Once they see an opening the spigots will be opened up. But if Obama is getting hundreds of millions in smaller contributions they’ll say “WTF”.
McCain would actually be better off running under Public Financing during the General Election…for one thing the DNC has a massive warchest they can bring to bear. And Obama will only get more money when the cycle begins again.
Obama sure rambles on. I wish I could get all starry-eyed over him but I’m just not feeling it. I will vote for him though if it comes down to that.
“… and I don’t mind” – Hillary, playing the victim card early on
Doubt that I will.
Not in my opinion as a consumer of both.