Since last Thursday’s revelations that Saint John McCain is a bigger sinner than his corporate-sponsored halo would suggest, he has been hitting one false note after another. Here’s this afternoon’s McCainpropism, courtesy of the Associated Press:
ROCKY RIVER, Ohio – John McCain said Monday that to win the White House he must convince a war-weary country that U.S. policy in Iraq is succeeding. If he can’t, "then I lose. I lose," the Republican said.
He quickly backed off that remark.
"Let me just put it this way: Americans will judge my candidacy first and foremost on how they believe I can lead the country both from our economy and for national security. Obviously, Iraq will play a role in their judgment of my ability to handle national security."
"If I may, I’d like to retract ‘I’ll lose.’ But I don’t think there’s any doubt that how they judge Iraq will have a direct relation to their judgment of me, my support of the surge," McCain added. "Clearly, I am tied to it to a large degree."
…
McCain recalled reading a USA Today poll that he said showed most people believe the troop-increase strategy is succeeding, and said: "Now, still the majority of Americans want out of Iraq. And, I understand that, too. So do I."
But what about that one hundred years you happily predicted we’d spend pounding sand in Tikrit, John? As always, it is the Democrats’ fault for misinterpreting what the Straight Talking Maverick™ meant when he said that we’d be in Iraq for the next one hundred years:
McCain accused Democrats of distorting that comment and sought to explain. "The war will be over soon, the war for all intents and purposes, although the insurgency will go on for years and years and years. But it will be handled by the Iraqis, not by us," he said. Like after other wars, he said, the United States then will decide "what kind of security arrangement we want to have with the Iraqis."
So . . . our soldiers will be security force piñatas for the Iraqi insurgents for another hundred years then? Did I interpret that correctly?
Y’know, I’m just a lowly wiseass, foul-mouthed, opinionated blogger, but it seems to me that it’s this kind of equivocating . . . dare I say "flipflopping" . . . that is getting you into so much trouble these days, Panderbear. If you want to maintain that "straight talking" label, you need to, well, talk straight. Say what you mean and mean what you say, right?
Instead, you draft campaign finance reform legislation, but have a hard time turning down those cushy corporate jets and telecomm lobbyist friends. You claim that you’ve never abused your position in the Senate for anyone’s personal gain, except for that little deal you pushed through for your wife’s Budweiser concession at the Arizona Cardinals Stadium.
You have "Straight Talk Express" painted on the side of your bus, but that doesn’t keep you from talking out of both sides of your mouth.
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WT!
ROWR!
Hiya Tiger!
MOWR!
zeddie freddie
Take it Back in 2008!
Nancy Pelosi is standing in the way of a full investigation into the crimes of the Bush/Cheney administration. She will not allow impeachment hearing to take place.
Please sign the petition to replace Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House. It is Constitutional and can be done during session. In fact the rule was written for just such an occasion; the removal of a complicit Speaker to advance the impeachment of a rogue administration.
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you guys are funny.
Hello, this is the RNC, is Governor Romney home?
I resemble that remark, just w/o the blogger part.
Zigzagexpress.
bomb bomb bomb iran
100 year war
“If I may, I’d like to retract ‘I’ll lose.’ But I don’t think there’s any doubt that how they judge Iraq will have a direct relation to their judgment of me, my support of the surge,” McCain added. “Clearly, I am tied to it to a large degree.”
Anchor, meet chain.
Watertiger! The hostess I thought owned this blog for the first three months I visited… Long time no see!
Hiya wiseass foulmouthed blogger!
Y’know, I’m just a lowly wiseass, foul-mouthed, opinionated blogger,
Me too. Nuthin’ wrong with that. The politicalprocess needs to hear our potty mouths. ‘cept I’m not a blogger. i just hang.
hey watertiger
Cheetoes, basement, jammies.
you said it a minute before me. you win the fouled-mouthed wise-ass of the night award.
hola, bustedknuckles, Loo Hoo . . . Suzanne!
[/Seinfeld]
i gotta turn in oily tonight.
He smokes dope!?
John McCain supports torture by the United States of America.
lol
It sure is odd to me how BigMedia, who would never seem to report any of CrazyTrain’s contradictions and distortions, are now suddenly coming out with negative things about St. John everyday.
Up until a week ago, if McCan’t asked for something to be “taken back,” it would be taken back and not in the reports. Now it IS the story.
Still wondering is there’s an attempt to get a different Repub nominee from with the Party itself. We’ll know soon enough.
Watertiger is a chick? I didn’t know that. I thought egregious was a guy too.
NYT story about lobbyist broke the MSM dike, imo.
Hey Mac. You lose.
Double Talk Express {h/t Olbermann}
And the beer concession didn’t benefit him, double-you-tee, it benefitted his wife, from whom his assets are severed. heh heh.
bfg, why do you characterize one sex as a chick and the other a guy? chick is a baby chicken. watertiger is a female human and not a fine feathered friend.
Get many dates??
Rub it in good.
Repubs support torture.
Repubs support spying on Americans.
Repubs support endless war.
Repubs support economic disaster.
Repubs support corrupt government.
I eat chickens.
Raw.
PC police on premises. Mind your typing fingers.
Long Time No See, Lady Tiger!
New National CBS/NYTimes Poll (snapshot in time…of course) taken just after the last debate and as the McCain lobbyist/rebuttals hit the fan…but prior TO the recent Clinton campaign attacks (Shame On You, Barack Obama!).
Obama 54, Clinton 38
Obama 50, McCain 38
Clinton 46, McCain 46
Ewwwww….!!!
Teddy, did KO say this?
I thought I saw most of the good parts tonight, but sometimes I miss info for turning off the oddball type junk.
eCAHN, I am not the pc police. sorry you feel that way.
Somebody has to.
Did KO talk about the beer concession tonight? I missed the show.
Hey, joshing with you. Didn’t realize you were so sensitive. Please accept my most humble apologies.
teddy, do you think mrs st john cut off his credit cards when the NYTimes story published?
Plucked or no?
Oooo, a statuette!! I think I can come up with a dress for that…
Teddy implied that. Don’t know. I didn’t hear it.
How many other retractions have we never heard of because McCain’s base (the press) loves him so? And is his base pissed enough to keep this level of attention on him? And will he spaz out? Or will Cindy explode? They are two tightly-wound individuals. I sure would like to see their tempers on display. I do not think we’ll have to wait long.
How soon until McCain gets another bus for the media? A bus, I should point out, that he cannot afford? Will his other vendors start demanding immediate cash on the barrel, because of the DNC charges at the FEC?
And will Tagg’s inheritance come to rescue the GOP, dragging the reluctant Mitt back into the ring?
That might not be all…
And Digby?
sorry. after a while, the slings and arrows do hurt.
i’ll be lurking over in the corner if anyone needs anything just holla
why do I ? I didn’t make that up. it’s slang and has been waaay before my time. I dunn. egregious didn’t mind. If it’s bothersome, I’ll stop.
Wifey wouldn’t be too pleased.
I did hear KO take down Hillary for her switcheroo tactics, and his snickering at McCains campaign money problems!! It was great to see Schuster on KO again!
So do Sam & Ella.
LOL, TSF, I haven’t heard “spaz out” in a long time.
Maybe if they spaz out at the same time they will start beating on each other. I think Cindy would come out on top so to speak.
the pin feathers provide additional roughage.
do you bite their heads off like the carnival guys?
Lots of good questions, Teddy, this may be more interesting than I thought.
Nah, he already did a balance transfer to his campaign’s account.
no, no, that part’s from me, the assets part. Double-Talk Express is from KO.
careful of the avian flu. it gets stuck in the feathers.
I ‘pologize again. Didn’t look at it from your POV. This tone of voice thing often backfires online; but that doesn’t stop us from trying it anyhow.
Was this a reference to Ms. Cathy McCain and her beer-truck drivin’ Daddy?
Which reminds me Beer Truck Driver by the Brody’s. [All the inside scoop on beer distributors]
so to speak.
I wabnna see her ’splode.
BOOOOM!!!!! splat. Mac will be wiping the goo off himself.
heeeeeheeeeeheeeeeeeeeheeeeeheeeeeheeeeheeeeeheeeeheeeeheeee
It’ll be on youtube.
Anybody else thinking Kelly Preston’s character in Jerry Maguire?
Will there be tee-shirts? Which way to the wiseass blogger store?
Every couple of days…John, we have to talk…I told you Cindykins there was nothing…Don’t touch me.
No. i got her chickdom right from the start.
Suzanne!
Ai-yup. Hensley Distributors got the exclusive contract for the Cardinals Stadium.
Cindy Hensley McCain. She sits on the board of directors.
He could never go that long.
Good for you, Teddy. Cindy isn’t shelling out money for this campaign, is she??
I have one very important question to ask Cindy. Will you evah stop teasing your hair?
Tell me about it. But keep trying, i say. it seems kindaelf defeating to have to rtag your jokes or snark. i don’t do it. You can always clean up the mess afterwards.
ack!
I was thinking about the scene where she flogs jerry with her marketing folders. I am not a loser!!
It’s not teased..she is a conehead.l
I had to do the Chicken Dance as part of my audition for my job at the Shiner Beer distributor here in Austin, way back in ‘83. And I had to drive all the way to the Wurst Fest in New Braunfels to do it. We were celebrating one of the driver’s birthdays.
Needless to say, I got the yob.
Don’t forget to Digg this post – John McCain would prefer that you don’t. Who ya gonna listen to?
Teddy!
McCain: “Clearly, I am tied to it to a large degree.”
This guy supplies his own opposition research!
I think Joan Rivers would be a shoe-in to star in the Cindy McCain Story.
This chick has got to chicken dance outta here. buh bye!!
Damnit, somebody needs to get the Democratic governors on-message about St John, RIGHT NOW. This shit is not helpful:
snip
(my bold)
STOP SAYING NICE THINGS ABOUT THE GOP NOMINEE
How hard is this?
Chicken Truck. Not the real John Anderson, though…
g’nite dosido
Actually it’s when it’s pulled-back (or is that now a bob?) that she gives me the creeps. She looks like the mother on “Brazil” ready to pop a stitch on a face-lift tied up in the back of her head.
Funny how this article is from “Rocky River.” Seems the Straight Jacket Express has also encountered a Rocky Road as well. Let’s hope the wheel fall off.
actually, I think P O’Neill nails who Cindy McCain looks like.
Joan Rivers? I dunno. Tilda Swenson could probably give it that n-icy edge.
Drive-by on my way to la-la land
“Whadda Maverick!”
;~P
Actually it’s when it’s pulled-back (or is that now a bob?) that she gives me the creeps. She looks like the mother on “Brazil” ready to pop a stitch on a face-lift tied up in the back of her head.
Cathy McCain
Or wearing freaking pony tails? Pony tails are for kids or very casual affairs-like blogging, not presidential politicing!
Suzanne,
Those Late Nite FDL vibes are really powerful. My friend who y’all wished well on her first biopsy that turned out negative, had another one (distrusting oncologist), and that one turned out negative too. Oughta figure out a way to bottle it.
that’s excellent news – a second negative is wonderful and your friend must be sleeping much better now. thanks for the feedback.
“Appeal” is the word.
He’s appealing…WTF?
Why can’t the Democratic governors just say, “He’s an utterly corrupt warmonger who is in bed with lobbyists running his campaign!” and hang up on Dan Balz?
Are we going to wake up to “President McCain”….no, really?? Are we??
I can’t deal with that. Really, not again. I can’t.
teddy – could that illegal nsa spying have something to do with it?
Hmmm, story up on the NYT website about Congress lookin’ at investigating Roger Clemmons for perjury. Not a mention of his ties to the Bushies. I could swear I saw a story on the web just an hour ago and the picture was George HW with the story, not Roger himself…
another reason to not let this story die from inattention. we gotta keep pushing back until president mccain is not a threat anymore.
Cathy McCain before or after…or in between?
Does this one fit?
I don’t know shit from rap.
Don’t we wish we could!
I swear I felt the screen vibrate when I put my hands on it to wish your friend well. And to help Betsy get a pain-free sleep. Either that, or I’m concentrating SO hard my fingers are shaking..;)
Have a cow :D
ditto, margot.
Really. I honestly can’t stand it. I’m really frustrated. Breathe in, breathe out..
Fight on…that is all we’ve got. Fight on.
Amen.
You’re buying my next monitor, tw3k!!
SPEW!!! hahahahaha love it tw3k, that is forking cool
“Cindy” McCain…
Digg won’t let me Digg this story.
It keeps saying my userid or my password are incorrect (it won’t tell me which is incorrect)
I’m using the same userid and password I always have. I’ve tried it several times.
Anybody have any suggestions?
Start worrying when you see big bags under her eyes and she has a goatee.
The bags will be her tits and the goatee is her pubic hair.
THEN you’ll know……
That. Or give up. I’ll take fight.
WTF!!! McCain is the A**hole that took money from religious broadcasting lobbyists (Paxson) and then tried to force the FCC to allow the sale of PITTSBURGH’s Public TV Station to them so that they could run a 24-hr a day “Benny Hinn-O-Rama”!
If THAT’s the ideal candidate, I say THAT YOU LORD ALMIGHTY!
D’Oh…Candycane…lost my sense of humor…sorry.
i had to resign in and it would not let me – had to get a new password email from them – hmmmm
nonplussed & Margot (and Suzanne),
Thanks so much. I’m trying to get her on FDL, but she has to work for a living & is afraid that she’ll get as addicted as I am. She’d make a good addition. We have great conversations.
There’s something wrong with the site, it’s doing the same thing to me.
Speakin’ of fighting on, if you haven’t seen yet, John and Elizabeth are joining a coalition of groups working to end the Iraq war while showing its devastating effects on the economy. HuffPo’s got a story up now.
Hope is a good thing…and a good thing never dies. [loosely borrowed from Martha and Shawshank….]
G’night, pups
lol :)
Perhaps Digg has the NSA truck parked on its tubes.
Me too. Fight on!!! We’ve come so far.
The fight in my head has been won by the “go to bed now” angel, who whipped the “stay up and chat” devil’s ass.
Keep it up, dogs!
we are mad as hell and not going to take it anymore
Gonna join Prarie sunshine & wangdangdoodle in a good night.
*waving g’nite to the leaving sleepy pups*
Hmmm. I switched from IE to Firefox and was able to Digg immediately.
was on FF the whole time
I’ve had lots of problems with Digg. Makes me wonder if the NSA is watching/monitoring. I’ve never had problems like this…
i finally saw that movie on tcm not that long ago.
I’m on Firefox and had to sign on again. But I didn’t.
Hola! Ma Cheri…! *g*
Do a hard refresh to fix the DIGG.
I did and DUGG it.
The problems I have with Digg are mainly with NoScript. I forget to allow Digg.
It seems McCain is getting a senior citizen’s pass from the MSM to some extent. Is it out of respect for the elderly they let him by on every other flip-flop and pause to let him fully explain anytime he misspeaks? His military hero and years of national service cred has shielded him from any of these latest mini scandals to hold him back for more than a few days. Like the NYT lobbyist scandal, anyone being too hard on McCain can fear reprisal of being called unpatriotic for disrespecting McCain too harshly. This is a huge advantage for him in this campaign.
let’s all wave to the NSA’er watching the lake and hope that he doesn’t spew his coffee all over that government monitor. can’t have any damage to government property yanno.
BTW,
How ya doin’ back there behind the curtain tonight Mister?
no, i will not cuff you. you had your chance and bawk bawk bawk
OT
What do you all do if your body starts to rebel against using the computer. I think I am having carpel tunnel but I cannot quit the puter.
Let me reiterate to the nice G-man, Hola! ;-)
get an ergonomic set up, including keyboard and mouse, chair, distance from monitor, etc.
His service was 40 years ago. A whole generation has grown up knowing little or nothing about that war. That may not be a good thing but it’s true. This 2008 election is certainly bringing out the young who don’t know anything about McCain.
Heh, As if I was so inclined…! 8-P
Hi nice NSA men/women!!! Don’t worry, we’re fighting for you and your families too!!! Waving!!!!
A dude is a guy and a dudess is a lady? Right? How about all these references of late where a lady will come up to a group of women or containing some women and say “all right guys” or “what do you guys want to do for dinner”? It seems during the last 3 or so years, many ladies have been referred to as “guys” but anatomically they aren’t.
while the nice gman is cleaning his keyboard and monitor, we can talk freely.
now, about mccain… we gotta keep this story going. he is weak here and he knows it and he knows we know it. has anyone written a letter to their editor about what a lying travesty of a straight talk express is – especially if your paper has endorced him.
Give up while you still have your sanity.
Water Tiger, an excellent post as usual…! Didn’t McCan’t just say the war will be over soon, today, even…? Coulda sworn…?! ;-)
In the restaurants that we frequent, it is almost standard procedure for the waitperson to address my wife and I as “you guys”…don’t know where that came from.
you see the built-in palettes yet?
Address yerself to Senator Obama not us. He’s the big loser on deck.
Having your usual great night?
Except in the South where its always… you all!
Righty O…..any day now.
All the more to attack Iran and Syria with…
aiight, you crazy peacemongers, i must finish off this last raw chicken and hit the hay.
keep up the fight!
Gee. Gotta link?
don’t forget to add a bless your heart
Uhhh, Dood, that would be Dudette…!
I always say guys when I’m referring to men and women. Like Hello you guys!!!
Guys has become generic for person in my group. Well, at least in a group (n>3) of mixed gender. Well here we say “ya’ll”. when I was up north, “Youse guys” seemed to be preferred :)
g’nite watertiger
a gentle reminder – disagree with the message but do not attack the messenger
calling each other names will not win this fight for our country
watertiger, i’m gald we had these peeps out of you. good lck passing the beaks!
HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE.
I like you.
McCain is gonna ‘Lieberman’ the voters. That is, lie his ass off on a continuous basis. And….
Who’s to stop him.
Keith Olberman is only one man.
I heard the future today on PBS…..
Clinton…organized and fighting back against Obama’s slurs….
Obama…sounding distracted and not all that interested in the foorah….
McCain…. a man of proven character fighting a misguided effort by the NYT to inject the roll lobbyists play in our political process….
Nothing to see here….please move along…please move….nothing to see here…
I report what I heard.
You decide.
wow, doc, you got on your formal jammies tonight
lol, yup, i use Youse guys
Damn, I have to remind myself again…
DO NOT FEED.
Hey Doc! Rather formal tonite, eh? ;-)
People left you a lot of questions last night regarding one of your comments. (Can’t even remember what it was because it came out of nowhere) Can you respond tonight?
Dang, I owe ya another Coke…!
McCain has problems within problems, in my opinion, and he will be backtracking within his own backtracks, and never make any sense. For example:
McCain “must convince a war-weary country that U.S. policy in Iraq is succeeding.”
Suceeding at WHAT, EXACTLY?
Cheney/Bush let their dirty secret out some time ago -Iraq will be a military and oil colony, as far as the eye can see. Funny thing is, that as soon as that became clear, the corporate media and our tough realpolitik sophisticated pundits said “Uh… Yeah! That’s the ticket. Of course. The US has ‘national security interests’ there. Everyone knew it was about power projection and oil all along. What are you simple? You a pacifist willing to see your kids DIE!? You want the US to LOSE?”
I guess that cover will be used an excuse by the corporate press to let McCain slide by during the campaign without having to explain what the heck he thinks success is. Why we are there and what success means is kind of old news somehnow already, even though never really thoroughly examined, debated or discussed.
We can’t let McCain get away with that. We can’t allow him to slide by on the basis of passes given to Cheney and Bush’s old dog and pony shows.
I see the same thing–and restuarants are one place where you hear it especially. I think it came from the same place that has many people (not me) injecting the word “like” into every 3 words of their sentences when it’s not gramatically and their moms and dads picking up the “Valley Girl speak” in order to feel included.
Whether “Valley Girl speak” originated in the Valley in California, I’m not sure.
I see moms doing it much more than dads.
lieberman/scotus
Repubs vote to torture detainees. Assholes.
Repubs vote to detain innocent foreigners.
Repubs vote for asshole shills who get jobs as asshole U.S. Attorneys to prosecute innocent persons for political gains for the George W. Bush White House. Assholes.
Repubs vote for illegal spying on Americans. Assholes. The GOP is the purest Asshole Party that we have seen for decades.
Repubs vote to finance endless war.
Repubs don’t know enough math or economics to realize their votes for George Bush’s budgets are vote for economic disaster.
Repubs support corrupt government, because they are total dipshits.
Repubs are total dipshits because they think Karl Rove is not an asshole.
Repubs are total dipshits because they think Karl Rove is kissing the face of God.
Repubs are total dipshits because they see Karl Rove’s face and they think they see God, but it’s only the ass of George Bush.
Their God sucks ass.
Karl Rove sucks ass.
Repubs suck Karl Rove.
a lot of moms i know start every sentence with ‘because’ due to their always having to answer questions from the tykes.
OK, I’ve decided.
You’re wrong.
Like one idjiot man is going to convince hundreds of millions (80% of the population) that the Iraq war is successful….
Mwahahahahhhahaha!!
Bonehead.
“…Because I said so…!” Know the refrain well…! ;-)
they still make a chill run up my spine
Or the infamous: “Don’t make me pull over this blog!”
ok *raising hand* guilty as charged on that one, tw3k
As for McCain being a sinner… well, everyone knows that.
Or maybe I am mistaken -I am often mistaken. But I do believe that I saw the saintly McCain knowingly lie through his teeth during the last GOP debate when challenged about his multiple comments that he didn’t know much about economics. He could have tried several tactics to counter that, but chose the course that a pompous self-righteous hypocritical old gasbag would choose -deny it outright even if the denial is an obvious provable lie. McCain’s response made Obama and HRC on undocumented workers’ drivers licenses look like heartfelt confessions.
So, why is McCain’s extra special integrity even a subject of discussion anymore. He has no more claim to special maverick integrity than any other old corrupt pol. Dude, how many millions saw for themselves.
Yet we have to go through a weird choreographed press battle, hanging on ten year old rumors and suspicians about one of his affairs. Totally surreal, unless the corporate press is hopelessly in wuv with the big money GOP.
:)
mary, one of the most helpful suggestions when i had that problem was getting a comfortable, long arm-rest for my chair. I rigged something up that extended from the chair arm to the desk, i think a clipboard. Padded it with a towel.
That and ice and massaging my hand.
Talking Points Memo has several video clips up to prove how exactly right you are!
ya think?
But, the inevitable response was; ‘Why?’ Aarghhhh…!
Uh….yeah I do….but last time I looked pal opinion was allowed here. If ya wanna go to war with linkys…
Find someone else.
Here ’tis:
http://www.americanthinker.com…..g_may.html
Enjoy the kool-aide!
Thanks. I also really need to not work at the computer for more than four hours a day.
puff, puff
sorry folks – had to go get my casual pj’s from the fluff annd fold.
there – better?
_ -_ _
Busted, one of my favorite quotes is
“against stupidity, the very gods themselves contend in vain”
but we should still honor the effort mortals like you (and I) give to that long, twilight struggle ;)
“There is no cure for stupid.”
I have carpel tunnel neck syndrome…Ouch!!!
I may have to do yoga or something, much to Petro’s delight :P
That and setting a timer and getting up when it goes off and doing something else for a while.
Have a beer.
nope.
i think the NIH even gave up giving study grants – campus admin kept blocking hte studies
(vested interest)
Yoga is overrated … /s
No!
I just a minute ago managed to make a 2nd layer (clouds) and turn the sky blue. That’s the most confusing thing!
ROFL
‘Stupid is, as stupid does…’ ;-)
Hey…. who’s the bonehead in your comment, anyway? I’m not sure I have a defense against that kind of charge, so not in mood to get up one of those old style internet flame wars.
But my point is that need to pursue the warmongers in all their species of wrongness, foolishness, not-thinking, ignorance, cluelesness. I want no political quarter. If McCain fails to persuade the population that Iraq has been a success, that is good, but not enough for me. I want more. I want it demonstrated that McCain either 1) has no clue about what he means by success, or 2) does have a clue, but is lying about that too (because he knows most of the population would revile the success of the miserable project that Cheney and Bush have in mind).
I want total political destruction of neocons and thoughtless warmonger hanger oners such as McCain.
Oh, yeah, that is a wonderful site! *rolls eyes*
http://www.americanthinker.com…..q_war.html
I other words, I am shrill on this topic.
wesgpc, i took it to be mccain
:D
It’ll all be part of your vocabulary soon enough
In answer to your first question: McCain is the bonehead.
I’m with you.
the nattering nabobs of negativity will not triumph in ‘08.
their time has passed.
we’re on to their game, and so is much of the rest of America ……
Homeopathy and Acupuncture are good for treating Carpal Tunnel Syndrome … please go through referrals to avoid quacks …
Err… Last I saw Obama had moved ahead nationally, 51-39… Hmmm…
Guten Tag
… waves to fahrender …
and getting up, moving around, getting in some stretches help prevent.
Ok OK, you folks can’t see the foam and spittle all over the computer here. McCain, corporate press, nonsense and lites…. gives me fits lately.
What kind of fits? Anyone here ever go hunting varmints out on a ranch with Daschsunds or terriers? I want Democratic party = old style dachsund, and badger/miscellaneous varmint = GOP and neocons. Only a few puffs of fur and a bone or two left.
hi fahrender!
hoping Dresden is nabob-free zone….
Land…slide.
Well, yes, wespgc, all of them teevee talking heads work for and get paid by Big Money GOP Corporate Media Conglomerates.
… and weight training …
I’d better go … lots of snow to clear tomorrow … G’nite all !
Crunch…..spit.
Aloha, Mi Amigo!
As Glenzilla would say, these are obviously very, very serious people:
kinda like crunching on trolls, but trolls tend to give me gas and leave a nasty aftertaste.
Good night all. Good night ACitizen.
yeah, I’m barely able to keep up on the blog ‘cuz of something like what you described.
lol, yup
Evening, all…
Goodnight, Loo Hoo!!
One possible way McCain may claim success in Iraq-
A Surge of Misunderstanding
I fart in their direction.
Good night Petro – good shovelling! g,nite, loohoo – sleep well.
I see comments like this here once a night. I have some friendly advice; but I doubt you’ll take it. I spend a good amount of time watching the federal appeallate courts in considerable detail. If you have money that you are inclined to bet, I would consider Leiberman dead for all practical purposes. You will save a lot of time in your life you can use for something else.
There actually is an excellent appellate site that is composed of attorneys who have considerable experience arguing before the S. Ct. who handicap who will get to write the opinions with their law clerks as we move into Feb/March in the term. As you probably know, the important complicated opinions always get saved until late May or June. They are awaited with much anticipation by people who enjoy watching the court and the justices. As the term progresses, we get a better grip and odds on who will get the remaining opinions that are assigned by the Chief (was Renquist, now Roberts). The site uses statistical mechanisms to try to calculate what Justice will get which opinions that are pending in the term.
I’m going to give you a tip. Instead of thinking Leiberman Scotus, you have better odds with
OJ Scotus
Javier Bardam Scotus
Jon Stewart Scotus
Lindsay Lohan Scotus
than Leiberman.
Believe me.
By the way, I sure am enjoying the humor columns that Kristol puts in NYT on Monday. Boy those flag lapel pins–that’s a killer issue. The thugs really have some potent stuff there.
I don’t know who is a bigger idiot today, the AP, or CNN with its push poll.
Why would that writer ignore the several polls that have Obama gaining considerable advantages over McCan’t? Plus, we’re comparing the same guy to two different candidates who are still running. Head-to-heads at this point are quite problematic. Obama is dominating right now in “independents.” Obama was down nearly 20% to Clinton 1.5 months ago in CBS polling, and now the same poll has him up 16%.
All indications are showing Obama getting stronger and stronger the more people see and hear him. There’s nothing unusual for polls to show slight ups and downs even as a candidate is rapidly gaining over a longer period of time.
I’ve been watching these quite a bit and from all over the country, and I’ve never seen such a rapid domination in polls as Obama has been showing in the last month. Better and Better Dems in Nov!
uh.. thanks
Yeah, it is bad….stiff neck, etc., gotta get up a lot an “do” something!!
Oooh, and here is the Wikipedia entry about that site:
Now that’s a real winner!
I believe it is polite to say “I fart in their *general* direction.”
Don’t want to make this an angry lefty blog do we?
Take me, for instance, calm as a cucumber.
their father was a hamster, and their mother smelt of elderberries
i was just reminding Loo Hoo of the question that went unanswered last night ;)
SBD
Hopefully, they’re downwind… ;-)
mmmm i just had some home made elderberry jam :)
on a foul mouthed fem blog, just how cool do the cucumbers remain?
ducks
You’re funny!!
That would be ‘Fire For Effect”.
hi Petro, hi Kirk, and hi Suzanne and everyone (even trolls and naysayers – what the hell).
there’s light on the horizon here in Saxony. have to start getting ready for work.
thanks, for my morning cup of FDL spirit.
carry on, and i’ll catch you on the flip side!
My vocabulary, you don’t wanna hear my vocabulary right about now.;)
*taking glare off stun* and spotting kirk hiding behind that palm tree
Have a good day.
wow tw3k, that sounds good.
and fahrender, have a good day!
lol! :)
suzanne, are you saying you’re frond of me?
Let ‘er rip!!
I’m not too good at making the home made stuff but lotsa places to buy some amish treats around here.
By the way Suzanne, How You Doin?
The back still givin ya the troubles?
Would that it were so! I hope you’re right, but if that is so, they’re being awfully quiet about it…Is there something published, a link, something to support this position? Again, I profoundly hope you’re correct, but as for me, anything I would like that much can’t happen, by definition. :)
we do have a date sunday
Hello PetePierce: just wanted to defend my approach to the McCain’s FEC problems: letter I was referring to yesterday was FEC commissioner’s letter to McCain saying that McCain did indeed have an agreement and he had to keep it. So that was what I meant by FEC functioning enough to issue a letter.
My understanding, as of today, is that nonfunctioning FEC is actually a problem for GOP and McCain (at least to the extent that election violations are ever a real problem these days). McCain accepted funding under functioning FEC, McCain wants out, seems to be violating current agreement -but no functioning FEC for McCain to appeal to or deal with. So that leaves in a kind of suspended animation, with what nominal scrap of FEC that still exists saying McCain is in the wrong.
You agree with that -you seem to know a lot about it, so I am curious what you think.
Hey there – treading on my territory there!
Yes…must rest the wrist, take breaks, bend and stretch.
some nights are worse than others – tomorrow it will be hurting cause i’ve got a showing and have floors to do. my doc told me i can’t vacuum but i gotta and then i ice it.
Ah, if SavageWeiner and Lush use the site for “proof,” we know that everything squirted out by the American Sphincter is worthless. Explains everything.
A Date on Palm Sunday, or a Palm Date on Sunday, or even… ;-)
Honey, if my Doc told me I couldn’t vacuum, I’d want it in writing so I could frame it.
fork. i knew i forgot to get something from him before arnold cut off my worker’s comp. silly me, thinking about getting pain meds.
duh! that sucka would be worth its weight in gold
I am a doctor, and if you think there will be no questions about what kind of doctor, exactly -I would be glad to write everyone notes excusing them from housework until the election is over. On the house!
oops – sorry, fern. the temptation was just too deciduous to resist.
fork – this sunday is palm sunday? that’s when the forking meetup is.
707
Actually, it’s Mar. 16th this year…!
whew – exhaling
thanks ct
Kirk, please give us a spew alert before you say stuff like that! Damn. I wish I could stay awake…be careful, Suzanne. The best of all possible tomorrows to you all.
Goodnight.
my name is spelled s-u-z-a-n-n-e. i’ll need it in triplicate with each copy notarized.
thanks :)
sorry, RonD – wishing you a good and spew-free sleep!
Aloha, Ron!
If anyone asks waht kind of doctor, I will append an incomprehensible statistical analysis showing them whatever you want. That should do the trick.
*waving to the leaving sleepy pups*
Are we getting housework-excuse-notes now? Because I need one too.
line up behind me, teddy. wesgpc is offering them up.
That’s hilarious!
Heh, Y’all remember The Odd Couple?
Lemme give ya a hint, I ain’t Felix.
ct, gotta question for you about the subject that can not be mentioned per the agreement not to. when is the date for when it can be mentioned again?
Who has the Late, Late Honors tonite? Teddy, ES, Suz…?
(sigh) i was married to a fundy felix.
Is the ‘incomprehensible statistical analysis’ commonly known as the ‘bill’?
ES has Mon, Wed, Fri and alternating sunday nites.
I have Tue, Thur, Sat and the other sundays.
They got this thing called Email, pretty cool, you should look into it.
/snark
Me too!
*relurking*
Ooh, when is the Red Sox-Athletics game in the Tokyo Dome? That’s the kickoff, so to speak…! *g*
I gotta tell one on myself.
No way Howard Wolfson or Hillary would use Drudge to plant stories. Oh wait…
http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/editorblog/054
Makes ya wonder about the email smear campaigns and madrassa stories on Pox Newz, who contribute to her campaign.
shhhh can’t say those words yet ct
can i get in line behing spurious?
(hi spurious!)
FTFY! *g*
yeap, but i gotta know the date, ct. thanks
kirk, spurious will be among those attending the meetup sunday.
you know, kirk, if you whipped out your pad and pen, the line would go much faster. i’m just saying…
Before I left home at 15 I roomed with different brothers off and on.
My real brother is a Felix.
NEAT FREAK.
His bed was by the door, mine was across the room. His carpet was vacuumed, his bed made everyday, his clothes, hair, nails, the whole shebang was immaculate.
He put a strip of duct tape down the middle of the room and on my side it was two feet deep all the way around. I would take a big step to the tape and dive in my pile.
Been wondering about this myself.
yes, but no one could read the results….
Count me in.
Hmmmmmm. Figures.
Repeat often.
ok but no cutting!
We are gonna chew ‘em into tiny fur balls and bone splinters, no doubt.
For “Badger” or “misc. varmints” replacements, you were probably thinking of “weasels,” “a$$holes,” “dipsticks,” “slagballs,” and “mother%#@kers.”
Just trying to help . . . .
I didn’t have a chance to read the FEC thread earlier. The comments often make me research or even *g* get ideas. Christy’s Siegelman threads did that this morning.
I’m far from an expert on the FEC or much else, but they have to have 4 people to have a quorum in order to take action.
I’m trying to remember where I saw a decent article early yesterday morning(it’s tomorrow already where I am) that spelled out how the FEC could impact all of the campaigns.
Simplistically ( a word?) one aspect is you understand that McConnell has said in typical fashion, “Look Dems. You either confirm our monster (Hans Von Spakovsky) or you’re not going to get any of your candidates confirmed that you need to provide a quorum. My way or the highway.”
That’s become very frequent with them the last few years. It’s happening with FISA now, along with their collateral attacks of the bullshit that American lives are in danger, and Bush’s insipidly stupid chorus that Dems are trying to throw a bone to trial lawyers because the House has had the guts so far to insist on stripping immunity (although CBoldt thinks I believe, that it’s a kabuki dance there to appear to be correct for the Dem base).
The big grin there is that it’s emerged that the Telcoms (whose legal counsel have been writing wiretapping legislation for years when they were employed by DOJ) have said, “screw it we have been and play to continue wiretapping whomever the hell this administration wants us to tap.”
The short and dirty history on Hans is that he helped run the DOJ voting rights unit, he did a lot to disenfranchise voters that TPM Muck chronicled very well over the last year and a half. For example, when Georgia’s voter ID was being scrutinized, DOJ’s Voting Rights section ruled it was illegal. Hans then stacked it with Bush appointees who weren’t career people, who were brought in expressly to rule any way the Republican administration wanted them to rule. Requiring driver’s license IDs while not a handicap for anyone here, is a handicap for an older, and poorer segment of the population, and certain ethnic groups, and von Spakovsky’s ringers ruled that it was OK over-ruling the career people.
So where does this leave us with McCain’s situation and Dean’s letter? I don’t know. I do know that FEC can’t do much about it right now, until they have a quorum and significantly they cannot disburse funds for public financing until they have four members. McCain wants out of it. He made the agreement. He has in my humble opinion, a big problem. McConnel may perceive right now that as long as he obstructs the FEC from becoming functional, he’s helping McCain slip out from under his obligation since they can’t disburse funds.
There are some other practical aspects. Many people who are conversant with FEC say that they wouldn’t make any rulings even if they had a quorum until after the November 2008 elections. Of course Dr. Dean would press them to move expeditiously, but if Hans is there don’t expect that to happen.
If there were litigation over the DNC’s claims, and there well could be, then you can put a fork in them doing anything practically, because litigation could tie this up for many many months beyond November 2008.
If it were litigated, and even if it’s not–it’s a bit complicated.
I know, clear as mud. Give me a couple days, and I can read a bit and get a better grip but I already know it’s murky and complicated. I haven’t had much chance the last 24 to read any of the FEC articles that are starting to metastasize in the print media and on blogs. As I said last night, the Dems were very correct to oppose McConnel and his nomination of von Spakovsky, and to start showing the backbone we all want them to start showing when the thugs start shoving them up against the wall and telling them to do whatever they tell them to do.
thanks, don’t do any work on my account. But yours and other analyses indicate that the current situation is not quite the kind of serious FEC legal bind for McCain as I would have hoped.
But, it certainly leaves McCain in no position to throw stones. Which might be exactly the reason he was the first to do so with his silly charges against Obama. Such is the weird political Kabuki world in which we live.
I apologize but I spent the FDL time I had to day doing a little research into the status of Siegelman’s appeal bond situation and I still have a half finished post to try to explain to people on that thread that Siegelman’s appeal bond has nothing to do with the delay in the trial transcript. It has been delayed by the prick who was his judge in district court, but the Eleventh circuit now has Siegleman’s release on appeal completely in their hands (two judges Black and Marcus, and I believe that since the Eleventh judges have remanded to the trial court judge for a better and further explanation and now have ordered briefs from the government and Siegelman’s lawyer, that they may well be inclined to overrule the trial court and cut him loose for appeal, and I also believe that they may do somethng very reare–which is that the panel whoever that will be may reverse Siegelman’s conviction. However, an average Eleventh Circuit case if it is one of the 17.5% that is granted an oral argument anyway, takes 18 months from the time it is filed until the opinion is released.
You’re quite correct in construing this that McCain has a significant problem with the FEC–*g* if only there were an FEC right now. He has a potential chance to come quickly crashing down–due to his very real irrefutable commitment to the FEC when it existed for public financing, and his very (and this is yet another problem to be explored unusual large bank lone to stay in the race a few months ago contingent upon his public financing that he wants to wiggle out of now.
Since there isn’t a functioning FEC, it’s very hard to say what will be the result, but yes–no FEC and McCain probably gets to skate. Let’s say the DNC says “we’re going to hold him to the agreement.” Well, without the FEC to do it, and any ruling any agency would make would be appealed by either side to the D.C. Circuit, and there my friend you are talking a lot of time–unless, and this is all hypothetical–the D.C. Circuit and possibly then afterward the S. Ct. says “hey we have an election coming–and they expedite the hell out of a ruling.”
But then…you get into a ruling by this current Supreme Court and speculating on how they rule in pending elections–well, their track record is definitely that they rule for the Republicans and once it gets there all bets would certainly be off.
We all know what they did in 2000, and that was without Alito and Roberts–and with swing vote Justice O’Connor.
Pete – wasn’t that all covered on the earlier threads here and here.