zed

Vote for the one that can bring us back in time to 2000!

oh nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnoze

tone down the rhetoric

Now Christy. Delightful.

Why not a question about riding on private jets with telecom lobbyists? Let them both beat up on St John.

Hey there

cinco

ok, ocho

Good points by Obama on toning down the immigration debate, tuned to Latino vote of course (as he noted its them that are getting harshed on).

Seems like people here will be granted immunity, its more what should happen going forward I think. As for going to the back of the line what difference does it make (as they are already here). I am all for amnesty depending on what the other parts of the law are.

HRC and Obama. Is the primary difference one of “inspiration”?

Did you ever wonder what is going through their heads as they stare at the crowd or the other person when it is not their turn to be talking?

Clinton: pahtway to citizenship (For whom? How many? How would it work?)

Obama: Invoking racism against Hispanics of immigration issue, pay taxes, fines, back of the line, etc.

Both: stronger borders, crack down on employers

I don’t like their responses on this.

Ohhh. Obama talking about Two Mexico’s (Rich and Poor)!!!

i take back everything i said about Obamas youthfulness

I think so kiddo – sounds like they are saying virtually the same thing to me…

Quatre…? ;-)

Question on the unfairness of the border fence now.

How about security I am sure you all saw KO where the fence ends at that Billionare that is in National Security (ends at the dudes house).

Hillary’s taking every chance she can get to slip in the names of places and people in Texas that she’s visited recently.

Bob in HI

Could well be.

I posted this on the tail end of the last thread, but here’s the link to the Austin rally tomorrow night w/ Obama.

http://my.barackobama.com/page/s/austinevent

11th and Congress – gates open at 6 pm and speech starts at 9 pm

Yeah. I could probably do a whole blog post on what they’re thinking when the other candidate is talking.

Hmmm…now there’s an idea!

OK. I am an Obama supporter, but I must say she is eloquent and thoughtful.

smart

How did ya think he attained Billionaire status…? ;-)

Clinton’s clothing choice is a mistake — not because the overall outfit doesn’t look fine (basic black), but just because the collar (with yellow piping) sits at a strange angle on her shoulders, and it’s distracting.

You want people listening to you — you don’t want them thinking, “WTF is up with her collar?”

taserzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz?

Hill had a good answer on the fence. Smart ideas and dumb ideas. W. chose the stupid..

Yeah, and those high tech fences still don’t work.

HRC and Obama. Is the primary difference one of “inspiration”?

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Bingo – when Edwards went out (most of the policy) you were left with two people that to that point had a very similar record – that was bad for Clinton since Obama wins the inspiration. Clinton fighting to keep her base and go with the tactics/specifics. Obama has covered his flank recently by going more into policy while keeping mostly to his inspiration.

Its a damn pickle.

Nothing…..

They are like frogs sitting on a river bank when there are no flying insects passing. Brainwave studies of such show no activity in the cortex….

Whatsoever.

God, enough about the damn fence.

** smart fencing **

Something bothers me about “fencing”. It doesn’t smell quite right.

She should have kept on the burnt orange suit she had on earlier in the day.

Hook ‘em horns!

Question: Border fence.

Clinton: Voted for fence along with Obama as part of immigration bill. Smart way and dumb way to protect one’s borders. Switches to Canadian border. Review. May be places for a physical fence. Bush went off the deep end. Listen to those who live along border.

Question: So your answer is?

Clinton: repeats review, increase personnel, tehnology along border

Why won’t one of them say we also have to work with Mexico to improve conditions there so immigration pressure decreases?

Campbell Brown is really rude.

“Alright, Senator Clinton….”

She needs to understand that one of these two people is gonna be the next president, and show some fucking respect.

jeez, i dislike her.

Clinton’s clothing choice is a mistake — not because the overall outfit doesn’t look fine (basic black), but just because the collar (with yellow piping) sits at a strange angle on her shoulders, and it’s distracting.

You want people listening to you — you don’t want them thinking, “WTF is up with her collar?”

Yeah, and whatever happened to her choice of colors? Early on, all the men dressed in black or dark blue, and she dressed in colorful pastels.

Bob in HI

Baseball themed Obama shirts

Clinton’s outfit is fine.

If you can fence people out. You can fence them in.

Why do Dems insist on wearing red ties and Repugs wear blue…? Hmmm…

I think they both said that earlier.

Did you see EW’s article yesterday about the preferable treatment one Mr. Hunt got on the fencing issue? A must read.

Obama said this.

Fence is a boondoggle. Its a ridiculous notion. Fences don’t keep people out.

Why is David Cutler the lead guy in Obama’s policy team as regards to ‘healthcare’?

i agree,Narcisssist

Improving life in Mexico? Brilliant!

** smart fencing **

“Smart fences make smart neighbors,” as Robert Frost might have said.

They both are. I watch either candidate speak and think and talk policy…and then I contemplate the GOP debates and speeches…and I’m so proud. I know it’s sad to have intellectual schadenfreude about the other side, but I do.

One thing about Hillary…..she’s brilliant. She is well versed on virtually every subject. You get the idea that she understands EVERY issue and has considered solutions. She’s very impressive.

Obama, Dream Act = policy

Obama – Border Fence:

Consult with local communities…Bush Admin bad at listening..I will reverse that policy..there may be places worth having a fence..but, it is important to deal with this problem to provide opportunities for the undocumented workers who are here. Americans think deporting 12 million people ridiculous, but they want law and order in the process. We need to have comprehensive reform…that is the kind of leadership I showed in the past and will in the future. Children are hear that have grown up in America as Americans of no fault of their own as children of undocumented workers. They deserve higher education.

President Clinton? President Obama? Works for us.

If we build a twelve foot fence, they build a thirteen foot ladder…!

Why won’t one of them say we also have to work with Mexico to improve conditions there so immigration pressure decreases?

dingdingding!!

By the year 2050, there will be more than 120,000,000 hispanics in the United States.

**wingnuts’ heads everywhere explode**

President Not-McCain is good enough for me!

I agree with you, solai. and she looks and seems better tonight than i’ve seen her for a couple of weeks now.
i WISH i could get behind her, but i cannot help not trusting her.
sorry.
sad.
and true.

Lou Dobbs is going to be bellowing about this discussion shortly

They’re both such strong and accomplished people that I still wish we could find a way to have both of them on the ticket.

teh true,smart NORMAL people feh

or a tunnel

LOL!

While I watch this debate, I contemplate a possible McCain administration.

… and dig tunnels …

BHO: “”Every student should be learning a second language….”

building walls is simply selecting for ladders.

Scouting report maintains he has a nasty, nasty screwball which he will use only once he is elected. Coach Lieberman has intimated that there will be some embarrassed batters on the Satans.

Myself I believe Lieberman will be doing more than coach next year.

Differences between Hill and Bama (in my view):

Early (and current) perspectives on the war.

Bama will come in with a much larger base of support across Independents and Moderates (and Democrats), so he will likely have much more effectiveness in addressing the key issue we want to address.

Bama has put together an amazing team for the campaign. Smart people, and effective. Plus they were smart about the money. With Hillary she did not do this, picking people for loyalty not expertise. This says alot about how they will be as President.

Question: Any problem with US becoming a bilingal nation?

Clinton: English as common unifying language. Against English as official language. (There goes my defense of English *g*)

President Not-McCain is good enough for me!

President Huckleberry? :)

The sheer amount of Dem turnout versus the Repug turnout instills me with great hope… All by it’s lonesome…! *g*

nagonnahappen

Excellent point by Obama – US learning second languge is now NEEDED.

Either one would be WISE to place the other in a prominent position in the NEW ADMINISTRATION. (doncha just LOVE those words!?!)

That Cutler guy is bad news!

Sorry (and to Teddy) I missed it. I really see that as key.

I agree completely. I didn’t say that for Obama because I have long championed him here, so…..

heh, My Bad…! ;-)

In first grade, when it would be natural.

Time out! Bathrooms are on the left!

Obama has the better answer on bilingual education. All kids should know two languages…I keep waiting for parents of an English-only speaking child to sue for unequal education.

Is there a downside to the US. becomiming a Bilingual nation?

HRC: I wish I could, but I haven’t, learned another language. English is an important part of the American experience and I want it to remain the dominant language, but I don’t want a law making it so.

BO: All students should learn another language. Children should not fall behind because of their home environment or home language. English speaking children should learn another language also. Foreign languages have been ignored and is an important area where resources should be sent. Kids spend too much time training the test.

Mark Penn =disaster imo

They’re both such strong and accomplished people that I still wish we could find a way to have both of them on the ticket.

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I am starting to come to that conclusion, but I just don’t see Clinton taking VP (or Obama not wanting the drama, due to Bill being an ex-Prez not Hillary).

Ew! OK, President Not-Republican?

Obama slams standardized tests, i.e. NCLB. Good for him.

Very tough questions here – on meeting Castro, on the border fence, on bilingualism. Both handled these quesions very well.

Beer break!

Sad fact, but true – here in Austin, there is no foreign language until middle school. Can you imagine living this close to the Mexican border and not teaching Spanish until kids are 12?

I’ve fought to get Spanish at the elementary level at our local elementary school for a long time and guess what? My son is studying JAPANESE and my daughter got so tired of starting over with Spanish each year she has moved on to French.

Two great candidates.

I can’t wait until Bushco is just history.

bilingual education is terrific – we have dual immersion at our school, but like everything else, it must have funding…

Wish I had seen that earlier. Tomorrow is opening day for the Gators and the their unis match the Dodger version.

Name the ‘team members’ responsible for the economy, social security and healthcare.

Provide links to them speaking in plain language about their perspectives on their areas of responsibility.

Me too!

I gotta think that if McCain wins I am headed to the docks for a sail across the drink. I don’t want to live with the drama of a “superstitious fighter pilot”.

Anyone else getting the impression they’re running as a team? They’re not debating each other; they’re supporting each other; this is the Democratic ticket, one way or another, and they’re happy to present themselves as part of that team, rather than try to differentiate.

KO will have a post-debate analysis show tonight at 10PM EST on MSNBC, according to advertisements.

Penn is a TOTAL disaster (and way overpaid). And remember, this is the old DCCC vs Dean issue, i.e. whether to spend all this money on in house pollsters.

Also Bama is a (50 state person) and organizer – both will help bring MORE and BETTER democrats into Congress.

Ive been switching between here and Kos and they think her collar is McDonald like.
Funny they like both candidates too.
I’ve noticed her head bobbing a lot. But both are impressive.

why did she have to start over each year?

Would you enlighten us on your preferred selection for our next president? And the reasons for your choice. Seriously. I’m not attempting to be flippant here.

If you are in Austin, go out and look at that moon!

There would be no problem with our country becoming not a bilingual but multilingual nation. It already is one.

This logically might be an arugment for Clinton as President (but I have not come to that conclusion) – but I think leader of the Senate would be done well by Clinton. I guess if I think Obama would be a good Prez then he wsould be good at it as well.

I’d like some questions about the Supreme Court, the Constitution, the rule of law, and whether either of them will hold BushCheneyCo accountable for their extensive and admitted lawbreaking.

I’m cut off from the fridge, I just mopped the Kitchen… ;-)

I really good friend of mine in college was from Canada, and had a bilingual immersion program all the way through school that she attended — french and english. I so wish we had that potential here — it is idiotic, not to mention economically backward of us, to not offer better language schooling in this country.

OT: I heard on NPR driving home from work that the FEC might end up forcing McBush to abide by the $50M spending limit for publicly financed campaigns. Since he’s already spent $49.5M, we could be looking at a Repug blackout for 6 whole months! Anyone have more info about that?

Did they just get a standing ovation?
Bravo.

I was concerned my county would’ve gone for Huck on Tuesday, but we were not one of the 7 (or so) WI counties that favored him. We did back Hillary by about 300 votes. Looking at the county by county WI votes, she won mostly northern and rural counties.

I haven’t broken down our precinct results yet to see if there was a difference between voting in cities & villages compared to the truly rural areas yet.

Said it before and will say it again … not gonna happen … Hillary cannot attack Obama any more because it has hurt her campaign … they’ve both decided to show their vast amounts of knowledge, which will do well for the GE.

I think they know the race is over, but she can’t drop out until after March 4. I’d like to see him appoint her to the Supreme Court.

ooooo, talk vs action …

Looking at this debate I really think Clinton messed up in some major ways – has she run a terrible campaign? I am starting to think she has.

If she was anything like this over the last few months I think it would be quite very different.

And it has to be seen as being important and “not a frill”. The reason people in Europe seem to all know three different languages is that they are so close to other countries and need to speak other languages to just get along. Here, we are so spread out, it is not seen as necessary. Plus, there is always that whole jingoistic America=English thing.

I surely hope so. And I think you are right, my friend. ;0)

Hmmm…I heard that Hat and Cattle reference earlier today on MSNBC…talker.

I am talking here about the team members who are organizing this whole campaign (and I know of this up front and personal from a visit he made here). They are nothing short of brillant, responsible, responsive. Obama selects excellent people around him. On your other question (people in core areas), frankly, I am not 100% happy with either, but I see Obama as someone who listens and then does what he thinks is right. For Hillary, she couldn’t even talk to her chief of staff directly (i.e. the issue of no money, and the need to borrow).

Since it was funded by the parents and PTA and not part of the “official curriculum”, there was no real grading, skill leveling, etc. and they had to start over again each school year with colors, numbers, etc. for new students.

Very frustrating.

The Capitol Building in Austin is just gorgeous. one of the most beautiful capitol buildings i have ever seen and i have seen several. it is MOST impressive, just an amazing thing to behold.

I blame Mark Penn and his asinine microtargeting and his need to constantly get his freaking way. She should have fired his ass after Iowa.

Rove won top honors tonite, O’Really only took silver in the WPITW…! ;-)

HILL chaneled TWEETS

She’s siding with Tweety now in his interview of the State Senator who couldn’t name an Obama accomplishment.

ah, obnoxious clapping from Clinton supporters.

HRC: Mistake…..she’s pulling out the Watson interview…and words matter…and actions speak louder than words.

omg! that’s AWFUL! how SAD! THAT kind of thing KILLS kid’s desire to go forward in anything! im really sorry to hear of that!

I’m going for Obama, but if Clinton gets the nom I’ll work equally hard for her.

Yes Senator Clinton there are contrasts between you and Obama. And one of those “contrasts” has been Iraq.

Heh, Why did she even hire him…? *g*

Awesome moon! Thanks for the tip.

Couldn’t really see the lunar eclipse last night due to the clouds.

words-yes, not actions

My great-grandfather was a stonemason who worked on that building. I’m told his stones have his initials WM carved in them in such a way that the stones read the same whichever way he put them into the wall. But I’ve never seen it.

Our elementary school laid off its only language teacher last year — thanks to a growing population and NCLB requirements…

it’s a nifty program, but we run only one class per grade level… classes are typically small… but its expensive – textbooks in both languages, highly paid, experienced teachers…

probably, the only thing I see about not doing something like this school-wide is that the kids must be motivated to learn in both languages… we’ve got some kids who are struggling so hard in just one language, adding the 2nd language just crushes them…

I blame Mark Penn and his asinine microtargeting and his need to constantly get his freaking way. She should have fired his ass after Iowa.

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Figures, another big money golden parachute person messing things up.

Most Canadians are bilingual … not only French and English but Mandarin, Swahili, Spanish, Korean … and the best part is, we share each other cultures with mutual respect …

she would be great on the sc. But she also would be a great senate leader.

EVERYTHING is bigger and better in Texas!

Except for the current occupant of the White House, of course….

Obama is not feeling well.

He’s an FOB, apparently.

This is the guy that Obama is listening to…..

I’d call him a problem but the others on his ‘team’ are worse. And no I don’t think all those inspired folks out in the field are gonna have much of a say. Obama has been funded by big donors to the tune of millions and they are gonna have their say.

Not door knockers in Austin.

10,000,000,000.00 pesos my friend

The feeling is we are in the same library, reading the same book, and on the same page, my friend. ;0)

The First Nation folks are still getting the shaft in my humble opinion…! 8-(

Thank you George!

Obama: HRC’s been saying “let’s get real”…as if some of the people voting for me are “delusional”…19 debates….every major newspaper here in TX…the thinking is that somehow they are being duped. I think they see the reality of what is going on in DC, stop the bickering, stop the special interests…The reason this campaign has done so well is because people realize policy positions are not enough…people need to be inspired to work for the country..instead of the gridlock and suffering that is real.

oui

Obama saying they share policy positions, but it takes inspiration to get it done. Loudest applause of the evening.

Yup – and long before. Obama’s folks were out figuring out how the caucus system worked, how they could do really well in rural areas etc. Penn was/is clueles. Basically they were attempting to out Rove, Rove (micro work). And, it didn’t work anymore for either.

OT the following is a comment I left in FDL’s News Headlines section under the story “Stevens files for reelection”:

Senator Stevens’s campaign for re-election is a political Bridge to Nowhere. This man has nothing to offer the voters of Alaska or the Senate of the United States. He is ethically bankrupt and long ago ceased to have any useful ideas about how to govern the country or any competence to assist in that process. He should attempt to salvage some semblence of personal honor and respect by stepping aside and allowing the democratic process to elect a Senator who has something positive and effective to offer Alaskans and the American people.

Obnoxious Obama clappers. Granted he was answering an attack.

Sen. Obama mentions his dislike for ‘regionalism’. This man has potential for greatness.

well, Teddy, TRY and see it if you get the chance. and walk the grounds! it’s just astounding. i don’t know about the initials thing, but that your great grand-father had a hand in that is a real source of pride!

they should put him on that island then blow up the bridge to no where

And who is funding Clinton? Angels and Girl Scouts?

Wow, did Campbell Brown forget to ask the audience not to applaud and cheer? Oh, jeez, now she’s asking about the Patrick “plagiarism” — what an idiot.

Ah yes … CNN stirring the pot … why don’t they do that with the Repugs … oh right …

i have totally warmed up to him

Clinton has a big problem: if the debate is basically a tie, she doesn’t stop Obama’s momentum, and Obama will take Texas.

And since that seems to be how it is turning out …

On the other hand, I’m happy that she ignored the advice of some in her camp to go strongly negative.

go Obama go!

I don’t think Obama picks her if he’s the nominee, though if things had been going differently it might have been a Clinton-Obama ticket. I don’t see that happening now. It is nice to hear them playing off each other more and dovetailing off of each other’s ideas, but I think she’s realized the digs at him aren’t working. (Just heard the latest applause for Obama just now on this question of attacks, too.)

On the basis of loyalty, I’ve never understood HRC making Penn a senior advisor.

Penn ran the propaganda camapign that tanked Big Dog’s Carbon Tax – and in so doing opened a permanent risk between Big DOg and Congressional Dems.

Why bring the very person who hrt your spouse (and your planet) into the core of your campaign?

In all sincerity, I am incapable of understanding HRC’s choice to work with Penn, much less rely upon him.

Woo, nice answer for the plagiarism question.

After 7 years of a President that delivers a speech sounding like a third grader giving a book review in front of the class, the words from Obama fall on the ears of America like raindrops to a parched earth. Pretty simple really.

Obama. Silly season in politics. (The borrowing of language in his speeches.)

Hillary is getting nasty with her ‘copying’ charges. I don’t like it.

Lahoma

I think that the worst thing to happen to Hillary Clinton this campaign was that she won New Hampshire. She was looking ready to do major shakeups and firings after Iowa, and then after she won New Hampshire, those plans were cancelled.

Had she dumped Mr. Microtrends and gone populist earlier, who knows what might have happened.

But that she would choose Penn, who has served her so poorly, enables us to make decisions about who she might choose to help her as President.

Frankly on health care for both Hillary and Obama – it will be largely up to Congress. What either of them can try to do is put the best plan forward and try to convince Congress to go along. Obama is more likely to garner broad appeal in Congress on this across party lines in my view.

Obama gives a list of his accomplishments, defuses it completely by injecting humor. Are you saying that my supporters support me because they are delusional? Transitions to what needs to be done in future.

Question on plagiarism

Obama: Silly season in politics for using a couple of lines from one of his national co-chairs.

Hillary making her second bad point of the night …

Nope but she’s upfront about it. Obama’s not.

He gets elected, a big if, his supporters are in for a nasty surprise.

Remember, you read it here first.

Awful. Hillary should drop the xerox crap. It’s making her look very bad.

she is NOT gracious sounds bad

Hillary is beginning to annoy me.

Whoo. Hillary continuing on the borrowing parts of his speech…She got booed.

Change that you can xerox? Oh, come on, Hillary! Worst line in the debate!
So, she never uses a speech writer?
That was a really bad swipe.

Bob in HI

Thanks to my mom being canadian, i learned how to sing a few nursery rhymes in french and in english. It’s something i found weird as a kid, that other kids didn’t know them that way too!

Granted, i still have a preference for spanish as a second language myself. I took it years ago in high school and miss it. It would be very handy right now as we have a few spanish speaking regulars at my pharmacy. They DO have spanish for health care classes at our local Comm College and i intend to take it up at some point, if i can. French and i never quite clicked as much as spanish did.

I’m learning bits and pieces of japanese, mostly the spoken word but it’s another i’d LOVE formal training in. Especially the written as well. I’d never be able to learn all of it–but a good portion would be more than most. I love languages in general but my love of them tends to stem from my audiogeekery. It’s how i picked up spanish so quick in school. Once i get the flow, the rest comes to me, just as easy as music. I still have the correct pronunciation that i learned back then in my head as well.

Obama is making Gore faces

I want Obama to challenge her about the “tracking Blockbuster video rentals” that she clearly stole from JRE

Hello, from deep South in Baja Oklahoma, just off the Lou Dobbs highway.

… raindrops to a parched earth … you’ve become poetic, OFG … *g*

HRC you are not changing my mind about you.

Obama: Accusing me of plagerism, when my friend gave me the line, is ridiculous. Silly season of politics.

What I’ve been talking about in some of the speeches, some of them are pretty good, is college credit in exchange for national service. Change tax code and give relief. End the war in Iraq so there is money. The are very concrete proposals…HRC has a fine record, So do I. We should be spending the time lifting the country up not bickering.

HRC: If your candidacy is about words, they should be your own words…you can xerox…….HRC gets booed.
There is no doubt you are a passionate elegant speaker…it’s not enough to say let’s come together….brag, brag, brag…..

(I have to stop, she just really pissed me off. LS *g*)

The copy-cat words are a losing issue for her. Muted applause followed by scattered boo’s.

If plagiarism’s such a big deal, what was up with Hillary’s use of ‘Si, se puede’ (sp?) in her speech a few days ago?

Clinton harps on the Obama borrowings. Gets catcalls from crowd.

Hill and Bill had 8 years to pass universal healthcare

Built in true Texas fashion to look just like the capital in Washington – but bigger.

i was hoping she wouldn’t go there!

hi ofg!

He gets elected, a big if, his supporters are in for a nasty surprise.

Remember, you read it here first.

I doubt it. We’re realists here.

HRC has the same Shrum-trained goons who have not won an election in years. They are loyal to her, and she to them.

Howdy and Aloha, OFG! Long time no see…! ;-)

This is one argument that both will lose if they engage in it. I hope Obama lets Hillary’s statement sit on it’s own.

you know, talking about the lobbyists, a GREAT line for the democrats during this campaign is going to be;

“you don’t want your politicians in bed with lobbyists, they will steal law from you if you allow your politicians to lie in bed with them”

BUWHAHAHAHA

Clinton creating a straw man argument about Obama’s health care plan not covering everyone. His plan covers everyone who wants to have coverage.

The line on cnn.com dropped believe 50 when Hillary started her xerox line

NO KIDDING!

Just now? Or was this a long time coming?

yesterdays mashed potatos

That modératrice Brown is extremely annoying and disrespectful.

that’s not fair, they tried and the republican controlled law makers wouldn’t let it pass

not fair

BTW, you’re doing a great job with the updates, LS. (Applause!)

There used to be a city ordinance that no building in town could be taller than the capitol. Sadly, those days have passed but it still is an awesome building and Teddy, be proud to have family that was a part of it!

For what?

For what plan?

Neither have a workable plan despite the plain fact thatThe American people know something is rotten….and they have for fifteen years.

There will be no solutions from either Senator TweedleDee or TweedleDum. That’s not their job. Their job is to get elected. The rest is Kabuki.

LS, dang you are a fast liveblogger!

I wish he would say that!

You should see kiddo right now. He’s becoming restless. Shall we say.

L.

he is still weaker on universal coverage… because his really isn’t “universal”…

Obama defends his healthcare plan. I don’t like his healthcare plan. It is not universal.

More food. Yum.

Oh I see. Obama’s supporters are naive. Thanks for helping them out!

Not a lot of the Oborg here that is true.

What did Obama say under his breath during the plagiarism thread?

Hi Oilfield Guy!

Oh, she’s been annoying me for some time now. But when she started in on Xeroxing, etc., she REALLY annoyed me.

She is very rude and most annoying … which is why she’s on CNN …

Stupid response from Hill on the plagiarism issue.

Never noticed that Obama is a lefty.

Two choices on stage, both an improvement over what we now have to the nth degree.

That modératrice Brown is extremely annoying and disrespectful.

Well, she is married to the former Bremer/Bush/CPA republican-noid mouthpiece Dan Senor, a real Team Bush playah if there ever was one.

not gonna happen, you are not gonna just make something up and have us let it stand as if it’s got any credibility at all

sorry

She is married to a GOP operative and should not be moderating a Democratic debate. It’s like having Bay Buchanan moderate our debate.

Sometimes I wonder if the Etruscans get the credit they deserve for their role in the evolution of Western Civilization.

from whative just read..oh BO just mentioned it,ill listen

Yes. But it will be very hard to get Universal through Congress because of the huge overhead. And the problem with insurance and drug companies.

Clinton is coming off badly.

And because of the resistance from the insurance companies and the vilification of the initial health care plan, they had six years of R controlled congress.

Whomever wins in ‘08 will most likely have a far stronger Dem majority in Congress to try to get things done with than has been available to the few Dem presidents in decades.

Hillary’s are too. Not a big revelation is it; that neither of these sockpuppets of the establishment are just that?

C’est vrai.

He said, “That’s not what happened, Hillary.” … IIRC

Never noticed that Obama is a lefty.

Im left handed!’

left handed people LOVE other left handed people, I am there

Obama-I respect that HRC tried to implement health care, but went about it the wrong way. I will open up the process. Everyone will have a seat at the table. No plan will get passed otherwise.

sadlyyes, is “yesterdays mashed potatoes” code for some DFH thing that I am not privy to? LOL…

Clinton can’t just win Texas and Ohio on March 4. She needs to win them by margins that are clearly impossible for her.

In Texas, she’s up against a wall she can’t climb. If she thinks she is going to grab Hispanics big in Texas, she still doesn’t understand how delegates are counted depending on the midterm elections where Hispanics stayed home in huge numbers and African Americans came out in droves.

Clinton proposes mandatory coverage, but she refuses to say (because she doesn’t have a clue or the courage to say if she has) how she would enforce the mandate. “I’d leave it to Congress” is pure bullshit.” Mandatory health care will never get through Congress.

And the penalties for people who aren’t insured are very clear–thousands of them die from cancers that could have been caught and treated by screening. Colon cancer is the second most deadly cancer in the US and the fourth most frequently diagnosed. It is one of the most ttreatable cancers if caught early. The 5 year survival of people treated early is 90%, but the rate of people diagnosed who can be treated early is 39%.

US Failure to Screen both Insured and Particularly Uninsured

Great!

Let those that are the problem continue to be at the table. Truly Senator ‘Dope’ fits him to a Tee!

hahahahahahaha
mashed potatoes prepared freshly are the PERFECT food of the universe….day old not so much

don’t know why I am giving you play but here I go;

these are teh democratic candidates, they are CLEARLY not the sock pockets of ANY repukelican who WILL give this country to the wealthy

these candidates will answer to US, the law makers will answer to US and it they WILL pass law for US

NOW, these are the candidates, these are our choices so put a sock in that;

“oh you better be scared” crap, we had ENOUGH of the “you better be scared” crap from the fascists in office

off to bed

Hillary just screwed the pooch … she’s shouting down moderators. Not a good thing.

HRC’s point is valid, but she’s not gonna get love with the soundbites that are gonna get spun out by the Wurlitzer tomorrow…

Interesting Health Care debate, though you really need to read the stuff to understand. Seems like the debate is 30 minutes to short.

How many times is it going to take to get an answer to the question. Clinton is just going to answer anything she wants each time.

Obama has the is he ready to be CIC on day one sewn up. The Iraq War II vote (in Obama’s case speeches against) is a pretty big deal.