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(Pictured: not as evil as the insurgency in Iraq)
Nice historical perspective, Senator.
Arizona Sen. John McCain played it cautiously Monday night, barely mentioning his Democratic rivals for the presidency, hailing past and present Republican presidents and underscoring that his focus as president would be waging war against "radical Islamic extremism."
Speaking to about 500 party faithful at the Outagamie County Lincoln Day Dinner, McCain said the war in Iraq was part of the fight against Islamic extremism, "the greatest evil, probably, that this nation has ever faced."
Yeah, probably not.
Nazi Germany took over one continent and a good chunk of another, executed 12,000,000 men, women, and children in the name of racial purity, and started a war that killed 70,000,000 people worldwide. The Japanese slaughtered 35,000,000 Chinese, including 300,000 mostly for the hell of it at Nanking. And of course there's Stalin, who killed 20,000,000 of his own people and Mao, who probably wiped out 2-3 million for being disloyal.
Someone who ranks Osama and the war in Iraq above World War II and Hitler and Stalin and Mao just should not be taken seriously about anything. It should be automatic grounds for a complete loss of all credibility, especially on national security issues. Period. It's ridiculous.
I realize St. McCain, like all wingnuts, dreams of being Churchill. But you can't be Churchill without a Hitler, and Osama and company are pikers compared to Hitler.
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McBush is squaring the circle- making it impossible to distinguish him from the spittle drooling gooper already in the White House….
Nice goin McBush!
Please someone explain. How they get to america in mass number, to do any damage .
no navy,airforce can they walk on water?
Well, mcbush admitted he doesn’t know much about economics; add history to the ignorance list.
Oh, don’t count the commies, they had good intentions.
Thus making him very Bush-like!
BT, from my vantage this is one of THE most important posts in a long time because is brings to the foreground all the ridiculous hype perpetuated about Islam as “bad, bad, bad.” Alas, it is not just McCain who has done this, but also a fair number of Dems (and the population at large) in the pocket of AIP*C. This is not to say that we don’t have truly “bad” people out there who are Moslem (Christian, Jewish, Hindu etc) but this global vilification has got to stop if we are ever going to have peace to the M.E.
Osama and company are pikers compared to Hitler.
All a matter of firepower.
Yippeeee for the thousand year war….
And, after the cold war, they were looking for a bad guy to focus arm sales on and against, and ta da! they found Islam.
Johnvez McSharraf: Putting the “mental” in Fundamentalism.
Ding
If “Islamofascists” hadn’t existed, Goopers would have been forced to INVENT them- and perhaps they did.
A thousand year war should allow hundreds of generations of Bushes to not serve.
My god, the stupidity, the sheer Brobdingnagian ignorance. I tremble..in anger. I stand with you Waccamaw, I did not read what you said until after I penned my words, not plagiarism, just the obvious.
Yeah, they tried to gin up the Cold War again, and it was too laughable. But if Islam doesn’t work, they’ll try China, which would be catastrophically stupid, or some other boogeyman.
Gingrich was talking about the start of “World War Three” when Israel invaded Lebanon. And every next bad guy is the next Hitler.
It’s remarkable that there’s never a price to pay for this obscene hyperbole.
Some are sayin that the invasion of Iraq wasn’t aimed at the middle east at all- but at China who was trying to buy their way into control of Iraqi oil. It’s plausible.
Bob Geldoff annoints St. George W. Bush of the Poor African Masses.
Geldoff doesn’t realize that Bush aint paying for shit.
-G
China is the country that goopers would love to hate- but too many of their brothers are makin millions doin business with the commies..so a backdoor assault is needed.
Still more proof that McCain can’t find his ass in the dark anymore, if indeed he ever could.
Well, alas, it could have come to that in my view. This was one of the stupidest things Israel has done of late. They got their asses handed to them, and it made it clear that Syria would not hesitate to clobber back. It is in part a numbers game - and of course land mass. Where is the ME Mandela??? Please!!!
George Bush has been good to the Africans- wouldn’t let em have rubbers which might cause em great injury.
Yup.
Remember before 9/11 (was there life before then…I forget), Shrub’s ratings were tanking, and that Summer they were building up some plane that landed in China and stoking all kinds of things with China?
I remember at the time yelling WTF?!? It was so obvious that they were trying to create a boogeyman I remember thinking. Anything to save the Shrub. It seemed like impeachment was a possibility within the first term.
Now, they’re using 9/11 to this day to keep the sheeple in line. Problem is for them, it doesn’t seem to be working anymore.
Yup - but also in the ME there is oil, the Evangels mythos of perpetual life, and of course key issues Israel security. In short, China will have to wait for all those arms sales.
A regional war between Israel and Lebanon could’ve started World War Three? Anything is possible, but to go on national television again and again (mind you, some weeks after the invasion) and say it’s the start of a global conflict is just historical masturbation.
Bob Geldoff link.
-G
I interpret you to mean the fundamentalist wingnuts within islam?
Hmm - a few evils St. John forgot:
1) US troops slaughtering Native Americans - destroying ancient cultures and languages, skewering infants on swords like kebabs, raping, scalping - all that fine Manifest Destiny stuff. Death toll - millions.
2) US provocation of the Mexican-American War (goal: land grab). For more, St. John, see: US Grant’s memoirs recordd hs horror and disgust.
3) US troops’ genocide against the Filipino people when they actually expected freedom after the Spanish- American war. Death toll - hundreds of thousands. For more, St. John, see Marine Gen. Smedley Butler
4) US troops’ repeated “interference” (read murders/torture/rape) in Latin America to make the region safe for Standard Brands and United Fruit (oops - that would be Dole and Chiquita). For more, St. John, see Marine Gen. Smedley Butler (and Penny Lernoux…and…)
5) US troops’ illegal and criminal wars in Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia: Invading a sovereign nation ( war crime), massive use of chemical weapons (war crime), indiscriminate bombing/napalming of civilians (war crime).
For more on this, St. McCain can look close to home.
If only his inexhaustable capacity to plan, do, and celebrate evil allowed him to recognize it.
Every time he looks in a mirror.
I read that too. Makes sense doesn’t it.
Yeesh. Apparently Geldof doesn’t like Tuesdaze either. Someone check Bob’s Telex machine that’s kept so clean. He can’t honestly think Shrub cares about the people of Africa.
Hey Richmond…
I’ve been away from FDL for a few hours…Have to catch in the threads. Did I miss anything important?
what’s really amazing is that mccain actually wants to attach ”islamic” with ”extremeism”
the two are mutually exclusive
Like I always say,’Don’t buy cheap tools, that’s how ya get yer Knuckles Busted’.
That cheap, made in Republic of Fascistan ratchet he is using to tighten up the rhetoric up with is going to slip and bust his knuckles.
McCain said this,
AT A LINCOLN DAY DINNER?
I’m sure Ol’ Abe would agree that CIVIL WAR was NOTHING compared to a bunch of morons hiding in caves.
McBush forgot that the GREATEST evil in the world is illegal immigration….He’s gettin too old for this gooper game.
Feh, my brain is still at home in bed where I should be.
yes, somehow, somewhere, someone saw fit to appoint joe lieberman to conduct the abbreviated sessions so “the president can’t pull something funny”
to which of course we are certain joe will not do something funny, aren’t we
“Dear Greatest Generation,
John McCain”
The war on islamic terror is so bogus.
First of all not everyone is even convinced that islamic terrorists were behind 911. The evidence is so unclear and seems to be mostly “hearsay” and a marketing scheme.
Do some Islamists hate America? You betcha. And some have a good reason to.
Are there nut cases who will do crazy violent things? Horrible assaults on civilians? You betcha.
Is this a real serious threat? I don’t think to the nation it is? No more than driving. 100,000 people were killed on the roads last year.
Who wants America? Only the Americans! Can we have our country back and leave other countries alone… please?
You are probably right. And, hmmm, can I quote (or plagarize) you on historical masturbation. That is a classic even at the lake!
“terror” is a strategy not an enemy
this administration is demonizing islam by attaching the two as though they aren’t mutally exclusive
No wonder he didn’t get the nod for Pat “Activist judges are the greatest evil that this nation has ever faced” Robertson.
Islamofear!
”The only good Indian is a dead Indian.” I mean seriously-evil; we really have been reduced to Dark Ages thinking. What we need in the White House is an exorcist, eh? No wonder Huckabee is still in it.
i meant what he meant
that would be injun
taxes on the wealthy are the greatest evil.
I don’t know, I am just poking my head in and out (I’m on short leash with editing and all). But Blue Texan just put the words historical and masturbation in the same sentence (indeed directly beside each other) - pretty good - but not quite up there with the discussion of Kristol, Kipling, tigers, and butter in Monday AMs post.
gay marriage is obviously the GREATEST evil—God’ll burn the whole nation for that one- like Sodom.
That was a vivid visual, garble and all. Heh heh.
how could you forget the virgins!
no no it’s stem cells
Wearin little rubber things on yer dick may not be the GREATEST evil- but it’s right UP there.
The Republics will attempt to make that a campaign issue.
People claim McCain is one of the toughest opponents a Democrat could face in the general. I strongly disagree.
McCain is going to keep saying things like this until November. He has taken dancing in a minefield to new levels. He confuses straight-talk with saying what is on your mind, and, friends, there is a wide difference between the two.
I relish McCain as the opponent in the summer and fall. I really, really do.
LOL!! We had some fun yesterday, didn’t we? Some intellectual fun, er, maybe some intellectual masturbation? *G*
No, the evidence is very clear, and no, Mohammed Atta is not Himmler.
You have that right, my friend.
McBush must have a strategy for pivoting away from Clusterfuck at some point- so when does it start? November? Will some find that a bit unbelievable when it happens?
ziggasim?
So we still have the Hal/Falstaff scene to look forward to- but McBush needs to get a lot younger- and Clusterfuck needs to gain a lot of weight.
Meant to add: We missed you. I figured you were off working on something. Considering what time you got up, you must be exhausted!
Bullseye.
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Great post, Blue Texas, thanks.
Ah jeez. You are right! I asked Siun to do a summary for us, but alas…..
Don’t worrh. McCain, the panderick, doesn’t really mean it. It pains him deeply to have to triple-pander with a cherry on top to the right wingnuts until he wins the nomination, so it doesn’t really count.
Jeez….
Or the Dr. Strangelove sequel, How I stopped worrying and embraced the fear.
Absolutely!! And this is what makes your post so important. And timely. And what makes me still so pissed about all of this.
I do wish someone would do a comparative study of the U.S. firepower vs. Al Qaeda’s. I would love to see it in some kind of graph published on the front page of one of our leading fish wraps (maybe it could rhyme with Blue Dork Slimes). Once and for all dragging this meme into the light and driving a stake through it’s heart.
I’ll give them one thing, they always have a simple explanation for every foul up, no matter the consequence. I suppose that indicates it is meant for consumption by a simple public.
Is that a new form of ziggarat, or something that comes out if you forget the little plastic shield RWCole was talking.
Yes.
Wounded Knee Massacre.
about, talking about.
Anyone know anything about voter turn out in Wi or Hawaii? (Both could be out skiing today).
I thought the greastest threat to our natioin was the illegal immigrant homos getting married so they could abort their babies on medicare.
he is already making distance
Sounds as if Clusterfuck has done his usual fuck up number in Pakistan and will leave the operable nuclear weapons of the most dangerous nation on earth in the hands of “who the fuck knows”.
Nice job Clusterfuck- didja find Osama yet?
You mean the ones they don’t abort, don’t you?
Islamofear!
It’s a fuck’n problem!
Amen!
Wicked bad! I would go LOL, but it is just too bad (good).
Or
The greatest evil in he world is islamofascists engaging in in gay marriage and wearing little rubber things on their dicks while doin stem cell research.
Thanks. And I bet if BT would have posted this even a year ago, and if I had commented here then as I did, we would have gotten really clobbered. I think (hope) the tide is turning.
It when you zig around the ziggurat at the center of lake :)
in chorus line formation at the top of a ziggarat as Christy judges the legal merits of the case and Jane yells down to cut it out “Or Else!”
Superb choice of photo, BT. I was looking at it thinking it didn’t look like anything in the Muslim world and then realized what the letters on the sign said, “Work Will Make You Free” (roughly translated from the German). Is it Auschwitz?
So glad you posted this.
I think, as per Cole et all, this is now about sex. I don’t know what has been going on at the lake recently to bring up this meme, but I guess it is not that much!
Once you understand this (exactly how phony the whole global war on terror and the war in Iraq are), then you have to question every single nickel spent for the Department of Defense and all the spy agencies. It’s a lot of money.
Winning bumpersticker in 1985:
“Nuke a Gay Whale for Christ”
We need an updated version.
Yes, and also on the drug war. Ninety percent of the funds (I may be off) going to central and south America for this takes the form of arms sales (someone posted on this a bit ago - I wish I could cite it).
Wow, whats next ?, communists in the State dept, fluoridated water, pay tv ?!?! that is one DOA trick pony
Yes, it’s the gate at Auschwitz.
Even though 9/11 was just one instance in a long history of man’s inhumanity to man, McCain and many Americans believe that Islamic extremism is the greatest evil because Americans are/were the victims.
It’s really that simple.
mcbush = Gollum
http://www.groupnewsblog.net/2.....quest.html
Now there’s a passing fair comparison!
Hmm….linky doesn’t seem to work in preview but gonna hit submit anyway.
BTW, gang:
THIS IS IMPORTANT!
I have a close friend who now works for Google as a site reliability manager. He’s an extremely brilliant geek. We met when we were both teaching in China in 2002.
In any event, he’s sent me elaborate instructions about how to bury annoying entries that come pop up in results or hit when you Google yourself, and subsequently, how to move stuff from say page 4 of your Google profile to page 1, or even the very first item on page 1. As you know Google is your resume–more or less a permanent digital record of your time on earth.
FDLers interested in getting those instructions can email me privately, and I’ll be glad to pass them along.
It’s the least I can do for my FDL colleagues and friends…
The greatest evil is that left to their own devices, humans will fuck ANYTHING without regard to gender, race, national origin, or species. That was why God is necessary.
Oh St. John and Cindy McCan’t…What tenderness and affection they display for each other…
http://politicalticker.blogs.c.....tism-flap/
The way St. John grabs her arm to thrust into the heavens…just warms the heart, don’t it? Their stoic rigidness would make Casanova jealous.
Well, maybe we need a drawing - a whale with feet enclosed in sneakers and wearing a condom walking while being mounted by another similarly attired(gay evolution). In front of them is a table with a Kool aid jug and glasses and a nearby space ship with a cross etched on the side (Evangels on the way to rapture).
Too distracting in traffic.
Thanks, hmmm, and do I actually have to start worrying about keeping a google profile of myself. I am overworked enough as it is already!
McCain = WAR
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hey biodun, I don’t have your email addy
Blue Texan,
You’ve done dood it with this one.
I Dugg It.
And, this is the first time I ever dugg anything.
Thanks for the inspiration.
The greatest threat to our security is the poor slobs making a stink about the border fence going through their crummy little poor houses, while it stops and the rich dudes’ property lines. (see TPM for articles)
I don’t believe that they believe. It’s is simply a marketing device to sell policy.
Yes baby. Don’t forget to pick up the gin today. You know how I get without it.
Wow. I had no idea.
Awesome!
Consider a bulk delivery by tanker truck- a real bargain.
Whaaaat? Link? Quick, before my head explodes.
Sorry, missed the reply. That was for 94.
That one *is* a pretty good example of the “I’ve got mine” syndrome.
Buscho = “The greatest evil”
YGM
thanks.
10-4, big buddy. Over and out.
arbeit macht frei
work makes freedom
war creates work
work creates jobs and makes for freedom
GWB
The bullshit continues to flow forth from the likes of Bill Kristol, who in yesterday’s NYT wrote:
For thirty years, FISA has and still does obligate telcos to comply with government requests for legitimate assistance and immunizes that from any resulting liability. Those who imply otherwise, e.g., McConnell, Kristol, and Bush hiself, are lying sacks of shit. And that is the most under-reported story in the nation. Why can’t reporters simply go and read the law?
Clusterfuck says he’s “pleased” about the election results in Pakistan…doesn’t say why…Pakistan’s Thomas Jefferson (according to Clusterfuck) lost badly….Who the fuck does Clusterfuck support anyway?
“McBush forgot that the GREATEST evil in the world is illegal immigration….He’s gettin too old for this gooper game.”
I’m playing catch-up on this thread, had to laugh at this. *g*
Absolutely brilliant post! Way to bring some sense of perspective to all this “war on terra” nonsense.
As I read somewhere upstairs, this has all been a smokescreen for the MIC to eat up the peace dividend that we had coming after the cold war.
Greedy bastards couldn’t (or were too lazy to) find another way to make money, so why not perpetuate war.
Forever.
it is classic goebbels. you can read it in his books. find