Joe Lieberman — once and future Zel Miller — no longer has his portrait on the walls of the Democratic Party headquarters in Hartford. Why this didn’t happen after he left the Democratic Party and ran as an independent in the last election is anybody’s guess, but his smirking weasel face is officially in a closet after his endorsement of John McCain.
NYT:
This is the latest steeply graded curve in the long, strange trip that is Mr. Lieberman’s career. Eight years ago he exhorted sweaty ironworkers in Boynton Beach, Fla., to join the Democratic cause. Four years ago he told voters in New Hampshire that President Bush was “a divisive leader.”
But four weeks ago, he returned to Boynton Beach to address 250 Republicans at a country club. This time, he deplored the Democrats’ “visceral” anger at Mr. Bush. He is skipping the Democratic National Convention in Denver, but may turn up at the rostrum of the Republicans’ conclave in Minneapolis.
“I suppose if Senator McCain is going to be nominated, and he asks me, I will go,” Mr. Lieberman said.
Oh really, Miss Scarlett, would you? I’m sure they’d be ever so grateful….
Thus far, his endorsement of Mr. McCain in December, when the polls had him as a long shot, has paid off like the daily double at Belmont. He has garnered attention and, as yet, paid no price in power or prestige.
But he has not amused his fellow Democrats, particularly in Connecticut, where many affect stony silence or ask to go off the record, the better to share their not-fit-for-a-family-newspaper assessment of this apostate.
“Look, I didn’t figure he was likely to go to the Democratic convention this year because someone would have gotten in his face,” said Nancy DiNardo, Connecticut’s Democratic chairwoman.
He’s got dust bunnies hanging off his nose in some Hartford closet, he’s loathed in his home state and afraid to go to the convention of the party for which he was once the Vice Presidential nominee.
I’d say that’s a price.
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if we are talking about leberman, it’s about time
hiya Jane!
Some people are just slow learners, I guess. Denial will do that.
But as I understand it he still has all his committee seats and seniority, so maybe not so much of a price after all…
Gawd, kiddo is now thinking about Lieberman.
L.
Jane, did you get my email about Conyer’s site?
Sorry to be off topic.
Funny how the NYT article doesn’t mention RGJoe’s claim during the 2006 primary that electing Ned would make it harder to elect a Democratic President in 2008, and no one wanted that more than Joe. Just like no one wants the troops home more than Joe. Just like no one wants the war ended more than Joe.
Nice to think of his portrait gathering dust in a Connecticut office closet, though. Does that mean Lieberman stops aging?
po, PO!, kiddo.
I’M NOT!
lol
ah, but we elected him anyway, he will not be elected again, the republicans better have a job for him because he’ll be out of work next cycle
Joe-Lie, the former senior Democratic Senator from CT…
I totally digg it!
Heh, they’d be lining up for the honor…!
Oh, you KNOW he’ll end up somewhere where he can do the most damage. Lobbying firms, WHATEVER!
707 !
And why oh why can’t the NYT get the organizing resolution part of the “important Joe Lieberman” story right?
How’s it going, Jane. Nice to see you here…*g*
“He’s got dust bunnies hanging off his nose in some Hartford closet, he’s loathed in his home state and afraid to go to the convention of the party for which he was once the Vice Presidential nominee.”
bwahahahahahahahaha!
Yes. Denial is not some damn river in Egypt.
Hey Joe, “yippee ki yay m#$%^&*@#$%r“
I find Mr. Lieberman to be the most distasteful politician on the scene.
Lahoma, you know what to do in situations like this.
Distract him! Thinking about L-man is just not good for the heart, the blood pressure, the anything.
RGJoe was also the frontrunner for the Democratic presidential nomination for most of 2003.
I want to know all about the derivations of Liebeman’s finances.
Please, oh please let McCain nominate him for VP. It would be great to have 2 Dems from CT.
I’d say having to hang out with Old Lord McCain and Lindsey Graham is a price as well.
I would forgive our Democratic Senators at least some of their sins and cowardice if they would toss this a**hole out of the committee assignments and put him in an office in the basement somewhere sometime before the next election.
Hi Jane, everyone. Put in place a law outlawing his wife’s lobbying money (and that of other Congressionl relatives) and I dare say old Joe would feel compelled to leave the senate. Just saying.
Sniff…I love the smell of Lieberpalm in the morning…
Doesn’t Connecticut have Democratic conventions, also, and will he be barred from them as well?
Too late for that. I’m going to distract myself. Going to put a saddle on one of the horses and ride down to the Red River.
L.
Gross – reminds me of the sniffing my dog does when I take him out for walks.
Rell, being an R, would most likely appoint someone like Chris Shays or Nancy Johnson to replace Lieberman if he were to go into a McBush admin.
shit the Portrait of Dorian Gray come alive, covered in the web of his own machinations
Jane Love it when you mention Joe around here. It’s like throwing raw meat to the lions.
I want to know all about the derivations of Mrs. Lieberman’s finances as well. Nor will I soon forget and forgive the Democratic leadership for not kicking Joe to the curb.
meow
kinda like how Lieberman drags his butt across the aisle.
Why stop there? I’d say he’s loathed in every state. Don’t we have pups from all 50 states?
“Look, I didn’t figure he was likely to go to the Democratic convention this year because someone would have gotten in his face,” said Nancy DiNardo, Connecticut’s Democratic chairwoman.
__________
Au contraire, he still has plenty of friends. The gang of fourteen or so would protect Droopy from scorn. All those characters need real Democrats to replace them ASAP. I wonder… Is Joementum Short Ride still Obama’s mentor?
707
Oh, the image…
It’s sad to witness the deterioration of a decent man. He can’t associate with the people who once honored him. Instead he hangs out with Republicans, hoping for a scrap of appreciation. He’s like a stray cat mewing at the door for a meal.
1,761 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen TeddySanFran and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:
Joe Lik*derman was advanced by the corporate media machine that always creates reality for people in the vacuum between elections. He was NEVER a front runner among the votin’ BASE of the Democratic Party but, then, the votin’ base almost NEVER gets the candidate they want anyway.
KEEP THE FAITH AND REMEMBER THAT WE OWE OUR CHILDREN A FUTURE…AND IT’S GUNNA COST US DEARLY!!
Why hasn’t Reid kicked him out of committees?
If you think LIEberscum is fun to ridicule now, just wait till McCain chooses someone else as his running mate. With the wingnuts still worried about McCain being too librul, there is no way the Veep spot goes to someone from the Democrat side. Joe will be so pitiful then, cause he will be truly all alone.
Except a stray cat has more dignity…
“Is Joementum Short Ride still Obama’s mentor?” Oh dear hackworth – do you have any links you could share? Memo to self: must pay closer attention. ;~)
Jane; you should e-mail this to every Bush dog democrat.
Like a dog doing the butt walk across the carpet?
LOL
Lieberman’s suck up to the Pukes is reminiscent of McCain’s suck up to the Neocons…both have betrayed what they previously said they stood for. Two peas in a pod…two weak human beings…they deserve each other.
Jane,
Thanks for all that you did to kick joe out of the party. My favorite line from the article was Joe saying:
“I went over to the other family.”
Please keep the heat on Harry, Chuck et al to humiliate him in 09 when the numbers grow.
I think it was Christy who said that committee memberships are good throughout the term of that congress. So for the 110th Congress, he’ll keep his positions.
More meds please
Hopefully, his betrayed party will freeze him out of the loop.
Cutting to the quick. I love it. You do it better than I. ;0)
McBush to make a trophy out of Liebervurst? “Look what I won” says McBush!
Ah Norske…
Lahoma and I like your stuff.
Starving lions.
Liebervurst knows that he’ll never get re-elected- so he’s off to pursue other career interests- as a zionist war monger.
Does he still get to sit in on DEM meetings. What about his committee chairmanships? Can’t he be freezed out?
Is this a good time to kick around Rahm Emanuel for Vice President?
There. Fixed. Yes, it is.
Oh my God. I just realized my woman has gone to the river. She sent me an email all the way from upstairs. I’m saddling up and taking my fishing jazz with me. Cats tonight. I hope.
http://boston.com/news/local/c…..lieberman/
Here’s a link. The internet tubes are full of references. If you google Lieberman Obama mentor, google knows it.
There’s always the Connecticut for Lieberman Party Convention…except they wouldn’t have him either.
OT – another female suicidal human bomber causes death & injuries in downtown Baghdad minutes ago. Thanks Dick & Smirky – your war is going so well.
…and with no flair or stapler.
lol!, thank you :)
O.M.G.
707
Any time! ;)
What a treat thanks.
link?
Don’t forget that Harry Reid said on the Senate floor that he respects no other Senator more than he respects Joe Lieberman.
The problem isn’t with Joe. The problem is with Harry.
Iraqis are not suicide bombers…
the Saudissomeone must be paying these people to do this to maintain the illusion of AQ in Iraq…Happy Trails lovebirds.
If you feel the need to vomit and need a little help, follow that link at comment 63 and read the article. Its all there.
What’s going to happen is that he will be left behind as the dems sweep in to congress in a landslide vote. He’ll be shown the door the day after election day and he’ll hang around as republican and then go retire in Israel and try his BS over there.
Good riddance you Israel firster, lying scum spineless creep.
I can’t stand the guy and he can take Shays with him.
The problem is that too many of those senators are repulsive human beings.
Get rid of them. Get rid of all of them.
Here you go -www.newsvine.com/_news/2008/02/17/1306712-female-suicide-bomber-kills-3-in-baghdad – 21k
People like Lieberman stand for nothing but their own egos.
What a disgusting self centered self absorbed creep.
Lieberman was invented by William F Buckley to punish the heroic Lowell Weicker for being disloyal to the GOP over Nixon. RGJoe has always been a GOP tool. Always.
Party Speak, or Obama’s true feeling
Either way going along to get along is not what this guy wants to see.
The good news is that when Lieberman does come out for McCain in the general (as he must) as McCain loses he will either have to resign his seat for something softer, or face the shame every day he’s in the Senate. According to friends of mine who knew him back in the Yale day, he was always a suck — a smart suck, to be sure, as the competition is fierce — but a suck nonetheless. It was always about him.
hearty laugh *G!*
McCain = Bush = Lieberman = McCain = Bush
thanks
And speaking of Joe, we also have some cleanup work to do in Maine this election cycle.
A Methodist Republican voter was talking politics with me in my store and Lieberman came up. She said, “I like Joe Lieberman. He’s a good guy!”.
The media has made a good case for Lieberman with Republicans, “Centrists” and other low information types.
The Clintons are a con job as well.
That was a spirited discursive experience at that earlier thread…I loved it. By all means let’s leave it back there…*g*
The republicans created that jerk when they ran a gambler who they didn’t even support. They screwed CT and the screwed the nation.
I can’t wait until I don’t have to see his smarmy face and listen to his bullshit.
I would hope to God that no Democrat is discussing or sharing any strategy or planning or tactics with that revolting little weasel, and that he’s not privy to any confidential party documents.
Clintons are accusing Obama of plagerism…unbelievable…coming from a campaign that stole “Yes We Can” and says “Yes We Will”…get a life.
Arghhh.
He can’t. There’s some kinda obscure Senate rule…selise can tell you what that is…
How long till St. McBush embraces RGJoe for VP? You know…to show how he can reach across the asile.
I’m sick of both of them. Lieberman’s beyond discussion. On a foul-mouthed fem blog.
If you click on that link at 63, you will get the impression that Obama’s mentor Lieberman was an official position. Obama chose Lieberman as his mentor in the Senate.
I’d like to see Obi answer some questions about Joe today.
He has shit on his hands.
Clubs are like that. Members like to watch each other’s back, ethics have no part of the calculus.
Obi wanted to be bi partisan a uniter not a divider.
I prefer to rid the country of the selfish right wing not work with them.
Joe-Lie might yet well be McCain’s
lapdogVP on the Rethug prez ticket…It was a stitch! (I real serious fun at the lake – and there is a part of me that thinks this actually in a broader way is important (a “free university” in the best sense of the term).
By the way after my morning indulgence with Kipling, butter, tigers and kid’s saying, I am now on rations. If you see me here now it is because I met a particular marker in my edits. A couple of deep breaths, a mind cleaner (or here, invigoration) then back to the salt mines.
Arghhh.
laughing and a big fat + 1ski
I don’t think so. He won’t pull and D voters and it might turn off some of the right. I think they have some anti semites in that crowd and someone from the NE? Doesn’t seem likely. They’ll pick a young one like Dan Quayle. Remember him?
y Andrew Miga, Associated Press Writer | October 26, 2006
HARTFORD, Conn. –Ned Lamont got a boost Thursday from one of the Democratic party’s brightest rising stars, Sen. Barack Obama.
The Illinois senator and potential 2008 presidential candidate sent an e-mail message to his Connecticut supporters urging them to rally behind Lamont’s challenge to three-term Sen. Joe Lieberman.
”Ned Lamont has waged an impressive grass roots campaign to give the people of Connecticut a choice in the November Senate election,” Obama wrote. ”Please join me in supporting Ned Lamont with your hard work on-the-ground in these closing weeks of the campaign.”
The Lamont camp said Obama’s e-mail went to about 5,000 Connecticut residents.
Lamont aides said they welcomed the support of Obama, who has enjoyed a surge in popularity in recent weeks as speculation about his national ambitions mounts.
This is just very uncomfortable.
We’re all talking about haha, what if McCain chooses Lieberman for veep.
What I can’t bear thinking about is what if Obama chooses him.
McCain appeals to low-information Dem voters; Lieberman appeals to low-info Rep voters?
McCain will have to pick a fundie-acceptable Veep candidate, but President McCain could very easily make RGJoe his secretary of defense.
Sounds good to me – rid the country of two ancient old war mongers once and for all.
Rice
I don’t like that bipartisan crap either. The chickens can’t work with Colonel Sanders. It ain’t possible. The Republican Party brought us Cheney and Bush, the biggest deficit in the history of civilization, and a war against the wrong country. Can’t reach across the aisle and make nice with a party of liars and cheats.
Yes, jumping in. But chose why. Back then Lieberman was a different person. He had been the Dem VP, he was from a relatively urban state, he (like Obama) was reliigous, he had the backing of the insiders. In short, he probably was someone who was seen to be able to bring Obama up to speed in how things really work. BTW a colleague of mine did something similar when he came, signing on with the most hard core, powerful, negative colleague/administrator to learn the ropes with – because he knew he would learn the most from him. Unlike Clinton who campaigned for Lieberman (and probably won the election for him), after the primary, Obama did not show up in Ct for Lieberman, or otherwise support him.
Hmmm – nice, I had forgotten that!
Yes, my 81
But we aint going to change it, we can, as you say, try to hold him accountable-Raven’s Kabuki play comment from previous post comes to mind.
Uh, what’s a Kabuki play again? 707
She, like Powell would appeal to blacks, but she has such a scowl and falseness about her. And I wont even go into her complete incompetence and facility at prevarication.
She can head the dept of interior design.
Nothing that a little botox couldn’t cure.
After the primary, HRC held a fundraiser for Lamont. Bottomline is, both Obama and HRC backed Short Ride in the primary and did some small amount for Lamont in the general election.
And don’t forget, the “anti-Iraq invasion” Obama chose the big war supporter as his mentor in ‘04, when the invasion and occupation had been in process for over a year. So it’s not like he was looking for a peace party platform to help formulate his views.
I can’t stand to even look at her. Powell is very creepy because of what he did, but he looks serious and not nasty like she does. She looks like a nasty witch and botox won’t change that. A mask?
Jane, Christy, and others will tell you that I (and LHP IIRC) often call FDL an online think tank. It is that. I hadto dig out my Kipling from the shelves. Last time I did that> Maybe in grad school…as I said, let’s leave it there and s*ck it tto dear Joe-Lie here…
The incumbent thing FORCES those in congress to support their colleagues and not a challenger. Yet another reason to start some sort of term limits.
Or how about elected officials being prohibited from any endorsements in electoral campaigns?
Turn that frown up side down. (Or, at least, flatten out the lines.) What about the gay vote? If Condi came out, would she appeal to Log Cabin types?
Sir, you impugn witches quite unnecessarily with that remark!
(If it sounds like I’ve been watching Pride and Prejudice…I have.;)
I think the Rs have no idea how Rice is perceived in the lefty blogs. From their POV, she’s young (a must with McCain at the top of the ticket), obviously knowledgeable, appeals to both blacks & women, etc. And I think many Ds think that way about her too.
I think she’d be a bad campaigner because she so clearly hates to be contradicted. But that test would come after she was picked.
young one like Dan Quayle. Remember him?
Yes indeed, the one wwho couldn’t spell potatoes…He spelled it potatos while trying to correct a 12-year-old kid who had spelled it correctly on the blackboard. He walked to the board and took the chalk out of kid’s hand and said “That’s not how you spell it, son.” And then proceeeded to misspell that word. The kid, interviewed by a TeeVee talk-show host later on said “I thought: What an idiot we have for Vice-President.”
Those were the days!!!
She doesn’t do well except around sycophants.
OT Interesting and not entirely without merit.
1603–1629: female kabuki
The history of kabuki began in 1603 when Okuni, a miko (young woman in the service of a Shinto shrine) of Izumo Taisha, began performing a new style of dance drama in the dry riverbeds of Kyoto. Female performers played both men and women in comic playlets about ordinary life. The style was instantly popular; Okuni was even asked to perform before the Imperial Court. In the wake of such success, rival troupes quickly formed, and kabuki was born as ensemble dance and drama was performed by women—a form very different from its modern incarnation. Much of its appeal in this era was due to the ribald, suggestive performances put on by many troupes; this appeal was further augmented by the fact that the performers were often also available for prostitution.[1] For this reason, kabuki was also written “歌舞妓” (singing and dancing prostitute) during the Edo Period.
In kabuki’s nascent period, women were the only performers in the plays. Soon women began attracting the wrong types of audiences and gaining too much attention from men. This type of attention raised some eyebrows and officials felt as if women were degrading the art of kabuki. In 1629, women were banned from appearing in kabuki performances.
A tryst between a man and a youth, probably a kabuki actor. Young kabuki actors were often sought-after by townsmen who followed shudo.
A tryst between a man and a youth, probably a kabuki actor. Young kabuki actors were often sought-after by townsmen who followed shudo.
Since kabuki was already so popular, young male actors, known as wakashu, took over after women were banned from performing. These young men could take the role of women due to their less masculine appearance and higher pitched voices in comparison to adult men. Along with the change in the performers’ gender came a change in the emphasis of the performance: increased stress was placed on drama rather than dance. Their performances were equally ribald, however, and they too were available for prostitution (also to male customers). Audiences frequently became rowdy, and brawls occasionally broke out, sometimes over the favors of a particularly handsome young actor, leading the shogunate to ban young male actors in 1652.
Completely agree.
It’s hard to define FDL without factoring in the learning component, which exists at so many levels.
When
DeadEyeDick shot HarryWhittingtonin the face, the THREADS here at FDL were absolutely the best place to get reliable information.I was shocked by how many hunters read FDL.
Guys (and gals) who were intimately familiar with Texas hunting laws, hunting safety, shooting birds, bird shot, the kind of gun Dick used. The constant interaction between commenter and poster is one of the many qualities that make this such an exciting community.
Booooooshit or ka fucking buki, that’s my meme and I’m sticking to the narrative.
Dan Quayle was also the one, who, on his first visit to South America, both as a private citizen and as VP, said: “This is my first time in Latin America. But I don’t speak Latin.”
I kid you not. That actually happened. He expanded the meaning (and definition) of the word “stupidity.” Every once in a while that happens in history…*g*
Isn’t that sort of what “Farewell My Concubine” was about (even though it was China).
Thanks Maddy – fascinating history of kabuki.
The reminds me, I heard a KRS1 tune while driving the other day that had a reference to cheney shooting a peep in the face. It was funny, I should google the lyrics.
Quayle was a useful idiot. He didn’t do nothin’, ‘cept stay out of the way. That’s the kind of VP Hills, Obama and McCain dream about. Of the three, I get the impression that Obama might be more prone to appreciate an intelligent VP. He may be less autocratic than Hillary or McCain.
McCain needs a wingman
Yes, but also don’t forget that Hillary’s husband Bill went to Ct to campaign for Lieberman. That was a clincher. On the timing and the war. There were VERY few Dems in Congress at that time willing to stand up and say they were against the war. At that time, Lieberman did not seem so much of the odd man out.
I liked seeing Edwards & Obama hugging when they met in NC – do you think Obama would invite Edwards on the VP slot and if so do you think he would accept?
so, whatever happened to Bill hitting someone yesterday?
i thought we’d be seeing it everywhere by now.
Interesting polling question on gays. Recently (within the last couple of days) I read that something like 71% or Americans are OK with a female president, and about 73% are OK with a black president. (I was pretty surprised). If we had a great gay candidate running, I bet, the numbers would be OK for that person too. (By the way, I am NOT a supporter of Condor).
During the General election or during the primary? I seem to recall Bill campaigning for Short Ride during the primary, just as Obama did but all I recall him doing during the general was the Larry King bit about with either Short Ride or Lamont, CT would have a “Dem”.
Yes he does. One with conservative bona fides to offset his non-existent, media-created liberal-ness.
I don’t have the facts at my grasp, but I remember Bill just before the General coming up and campaigning for Lieberman (it was a big venue appearance) and many of us were pissed that he would do this, basically amping up the DCCC’s support for LIeberman and the war.
707 to you Raven@126
Second that Boo, the knowledge I am grateful for, the wit priceless.
I could say that Lieberman is an ostrich – or dodo – but some of you were offended that I was denigrating the latter two.
imo
no, no.
I’m not voting for anyone that has not achieved sainthood or is at least pals with the Dali Lama!
You missed that. It was “everywhere” this morning before Noon CT: on MSNBC and CNN. They reran that tape every 5 minutes…You gotta catch things early. They have all shit covered and over with really fast–they don’t waste any time with stuff like that..
Well, I googled Bill Clinton campaigning with Joe Lieberman and the only things I’m finding are for the primary. So if you have a specific instance from the general election, I’d like to see it please.
howdy y’all! bye bye Joe !
Sorry to be so verbose? I am sick and stuck here last few days.
Just heard this From Randi Rhodes(sp)
Yea the repugs are going long deep and dirty…it reminded me of some characters from a Stephan King story, low men in yellow coats
(Do you know (of) Ella Shohat?)
so you won’t be voting anytime soon, eh?
You got that right, Audrey.
Sue, CFL Secretary
(We actually did invite him to a meeting, but he never showed).
*spitting on Joe Lieberman*
Hey HI!
Michelle Obama live on CSpan speechifying on Sen. Obama – “imagine a president of the United States who just paid down his student loan debt”.
Great to see you Cassie!
Ah but who gets to proclaim the sainthood? One person’s saint is another’s debbil doncha know…
I’ve known her since 1989…A very very interesting person…Unusual ideas–She isa Jew born in Baghdad, so that tell you something right away… A US citizen by way of Israel and Iraq…anda member of Peace Now–very anti-Israeli policies, especially toward Palestinians…
Good to see y’all too. On a afriend’s computer. I still can’t make mine work on FDL without kicking me off after every comment.
This shit is fucking unbelievable.
I spit at my screen
Jeez -LOL – you are on fire today!
Not off the top of my head.
I hope you have that screen cleaning stuff.
How come every time I get here and get in, they start a whole new thread on some topic I don’t know anything about?????????
How does this country elect people who are such idiots?
How can we look up to a president, or VP who is such a moron? How do they get there? It defies logic?
Yea I do.
Where have you been? Are you OK?
I am fine! But busy with school and stuff. And Internet connection probs.
On July 26, 2006 Clinton was there. I don’t know where that was in the whole election cycle – but here is a write up in Salon and they certainly saw it as a big (nasty) deal. http://www.salon.com/news/feat…..lieberman/
I believe that was still during the primary season. IIRC, the primary was in August.
I feel that way too, Cassie, but let’s jump and go swimming!
July 4 – that is. The election (either primary or general) was August 8. Clinton was here giving supportive speeches for Lieberman; Obama did not do so. End of story.
It may have been the primary (I said I wasn’t sure)- but it was a BIG deal. And, Obama clearly did nothing of this sort for Lieberman. Did you read the Salon piece?
July 24, that is just 2 weeks before th election.
There’s an apocryphal story about Nixon’s photo being hung in the elevator shaft of the Duke law school (Nixon’s alma mater). Maybe the CT Dems should do the same.
I did read the Salon piece. And I’m trying to find the articles where Obama is campaigning with Lieberman and Lieberman announces that he has been Obama’s mentor. Suffice it to say, NEITHER Obama or HRC were supporting Lamont in the primary and they BOTH supported him in the general election. Why is it so difficult to acknowledge that both of them did this?
TalkLeft article on Obama speaking at Lieberman Fund Raiser in CT.
LOL
Good point.
Maybe he didn’t realize how far off the reservation Joe would go???
And I don’t think Obi would trash him now either, because I think he is a decent human being. But he may be on the hot seat as Joe continues to go righter and a righter.
I am off for a run and will come back to look at the timing, but I think there is a HUGE difference between an April 1 comment (when Lamont was just beginning) and a major Clinton speech two weeks before the primary. There was absolutely no reason for Bill to be there except to help out the Schumer-Rahm-Clintonistas of the pro-war DCCC.
Richmond,
We’re just gonna have to agree to disagree. I think you are holding HRC to a higher standard than you hold Obama. Especially when you hold her accountable for her husband’s actions. You obviously feel they are different sides of the same coin and that there’s support and there’s support. So be it. I disagree.
Lieberman needs to be hidden in a closet everywhere. He is a disgrace to his country.
I imagine that the portrait hidden in the closet is becoming more hideous and grotesque with each passing day.
Would rather see Edwards as Attorney General to bring some accountability to the Regime of Crime. Then on to the SCOTUS.
I will agree to disagree. Alas. And I respect you. But they are very different on a variety of scores (including their records in Congress, their approach to the war, and the way they have run their campaigns). Anyway, you have got me thinking about the Lamont thing.
Jane, i feel your pain and your glee but i believe a better use for his smirking weasel face, other than in a closet collecting dust bunnies after his endorsement of John McCain, is that of a functional Dart Board. That way Lieberman’s face, adorned with honorable Groucho Marx mustache and glasses, could bring hours of joy and inspiration to the halls of the Democratic Party headquarters.
Dakine – I’m not so great at doing time lines, but there is an interestng one for the Lamont campaign and I think it makes a clear distinction between how Obama and Clinton were addressing this issue.
Lamont officially announced during March, 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ned_Lamont).
On March 31, 2006, Obama, on the stage with Lieberman, announced his support (http://www.talkleft.com/story/2006/04/02/164/90446).
In July Biden, Boxer and Salazar all campaigned for Lieberman; Schumer and Reid pledged support to him as well (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/05/AR2006070501143.html).
On July 17, Bill Clinton makes it known that he is supporting Lieberman’s Iraq stance (http://flapsblog.com/?p=3042).
In late July, Bill CLinton announces he will campaign for Lieberman, which he does along with Boxer, Lautenberg and Inouye.
By August, however, many others of the Democratic leadership are supporting Lamont (including Reid, Schumer, Kerry, Fengold, Bayh Dodd, Feingold and Pelosi) – http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITI…..ndex.html.
During this same August period, Bill Clinton is allowing Lieberman to use his name (and support) in publicity ads.
August 26, Hillary says she will help raise money for Lamont,offering him $5,000. Dan Gerstein is skeptical about Hillary’s level of support for Lamont, saying she will not appear with him (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/26/nyregion/26lieberman.html)
October 27 – Obama is urging voters to rally behind Lamont (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/27/ap/politics/mainD8L0MB280.shtml
2007 Lamont comes out in support of Obama NOT Hillary!
If Reid was truly a leader of men…he’d get Lieberman off that damn Committee. The sister Committee in the House is the one run by Waxman. Compare all that Waxman’s Committee has uncovered vs. Lieberman’s (Not “looking back”) Committee.
Mc Loserman !
Lieberman is nothing short of the poster child for the unedumacated masses; that would be the masses who failed to pay attention to the cost of voting for an independent who garnered significant support from the Republicans. I think it proves once and for all that north easterners aren’t any more erudite than the rest of us; or at least that applies to the good people of Connecticut who were too stupid to see this coming.
Ah, YES, I remember it well………we were getting robo calls from mr. Clinton telling us to support Lie-erman and I kept hanging up, but the calls did NOT STOP
until I heard the BS all the way through!
I will never forget that ……it’s yet another reason to mistrust Billary, who knew Hussein was NOT a threat to the U.S.A, as past and present intelligence shows……… way back then!
I’m a day late to this headline, but …………….