Azzaman has one such news story:
U.S. helicopter gun ships opened fire on a house in the small town of Zab in northern Iraq, killing eight people, five of them children from the same family, a police source said.
“It is a massacre. The eight martyrs include two men, one woman and five children,” said a police source, refusing to be named.
The incident took place late last week and U.S. and Iraqi sources have kept it under wraps.
And notes:
Many incidents like these go unreported in the violence-plagued country as reporters are afraid to leave their highly-protected hotels and offices in the capital Baghdad.
Aswat al Iraq reports another incident unnoticed by western press:
An Iraqi civilian was killed by U.S. soldiers' fire on the outskirts of al-Khalidiya town while the U.S. side declined to confirm or deny the reported incident, police said.
"Soldiers in a U.S. patrol killed a civilian in al-Khalidiya, (20 km) east of Ramadi, on suspicion," an official police source in Anbar told Aswat al-Iraq – Voices of Iraq – (VOI) on condition of anonymity.
"The victim was driving a taxi cab when U.S. soldiers opened fire at him for drawing near the patrol at an intersection," the source added.
VOI contacted Abdul-Latif Rayan, the Multi-National Force – Iraq (MNF-I) Media Operations Adviser, but he said he had no information on the incident.
Meanwhile, there’s news from the Mosul campaign which Maliki has been touting for almost a month now:
U.S. and Iraqi troops are carrying out military operations in heavily populated areas of the northern city of Mosul to flush out insurgents.
And in their bid they are separating and isolating residential quarters with security barriers and walls making movement rather difficult.
Some quarters like Yarmouk, Thawar and Siha are completed isolated.
But provincial officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, say the Qaeda and other groups opposing U.S. occupation have either fled or merged with the population.
Azzaman adds, in case we have forgotten similar events in Fallujah and other Iraqi cities:
With no guarantees given that the troops would not repeat the mistake committed in other rebel cities in the subjugation of which the U.S. employed warplanes and heavy artillery, tens of thousands of residents are fleeing to safer areas.
Add in increased suicide bombings in both Iraq and Afghanistan, the continued failure of occupation powers to provide basic services - half of Baghdad without water while Baquba continues to struggle with blackouts - and the growing failure of Petraeus’ much touted “Awakening” alliance - due to repeated “friendly fire” incidents
With no successes to report, we are left with virtual media silence from Iraq and Forever War McCain claiming that any discussion of withdrawal:
“...means chaos. That means genocide," the 71-year-old Arizona senator told CNN.
"That means undoing all the success we've achieved...”
Perhaps Senator McCain would like to explain to the families of the Iraqi citizens killed week after week in US air strikes and attacks how it could be any worse.
Video note: This is a preview of the upcoming Winter Soldier: Iraq and Afghanistan March 13-16 in Washington, organized by Iraq Veterans Against the War. Part 2 of the preview can be viewed here.
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God dammit. I want out of Iraq.
Oh noooo… Not Lurch…!!!! Wow! R.I.P….!!!!!! 8-(
yeah CT … it’s such sad news … he was a gem
The continuing failure to provide basic services is more of a statement to the people of Iraq than any pronouncement from any politician could ever be.
Does McCain take the perspective…”if I could take it..you can to”…or something like that?
There is an ongoing night terror happening in the world…it is ongoing…
Maybe even for 100 to 1,000 years…McCain thinks We the People have no problem with that…
Ummmm…McCain…you’ve got another “think” coming.
So sad about Lurch. Sympathies to Fixer, Gord and the other folks at M&S.
Perhaps McCain can explain to the people of the US what all our successes in Iraq are, because I’m not seeing any.
Out of Irak - ASAP.
None of this ‘hundred years’ cr*p, that’s a loss from the start. For one thing, in a hundred years, we’ll be small farmers again, because we’ll have bankrupted ourselves to where we’re back to horse-and-buggy days: no oil and no money.
Wow Siun, I’m so sorry, what a heartbreaker,
another soul to add to the haunting of George W. Bush.
The Republicans will bring us McCain and more of the same. We need to be in Iraq for a hundred years? Righto.
I just went to M&C, and no details….. We’ve certainly lost a vocal and vibrant soul……!!!!! 8-(
Please refresh gang … some of the formatting was messed up.
George W. Bush in my view only, has no soul. What would have been the prez’s reaction upon hearing Lurch had perished? Carla Faye Tucker may know.
CT … no one had heard from him for a few days - and he had been very ill a short while ago. All the team at M&S was able to find out was that he had passed away. Fixer has promised more news when Lurch’s family is comfortable with passing it along.
Shudder.
For Lurch!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G1FvlPakkU
Mahalo Nui Loa, Siun! I’m gonna send my condolences…!
Thanks CT - Lurch was so special and so funny. We exchanged wacky videos at times and he had this special zest.
And he was definitely a very good soldier - a man of honor who still hoped today’s military would return to the values he maintained in his day.
Lurch RIP.
An excellent post, Siun! Is Du around?
I haven’t seen Du for a few days but I’ve had some computer issues so I’ve missed a lot!
I know he or Erdla try to stop in Sunday nights if they’re up with the babes.
Urgent Request for Armored Vehicles Lost in Bureaucracy: Thousands Die via Chickenhawks
Has anyone heard from Alfred? I’m worried about him. Texas pups?
George W. Bush is a murderer, a thug and a coward. Come and get me George. Here I am… in south western Oklahoma.
I know the feeling… That is wild about Lurch, but, when it’s your time… I’m thankful it wasn’t suicide, as he never alluded to any illness…!
Pete:
The problems with the MRAPs was one Lurch was very concerned with - his posts on the topic can be found here.
Thanks Siun.
I just wanted to comment this Thomas Payne quote from the IVAW site:
AK? aka the Spook in the Machine? I believe he’s in Japan, I’ve not seen anything new posted on his blog swarm in quite some time…!
warning… shameless, off-topic blog-whoring ahead…
Earlier this evening Taylor Marsh allowed me to do a guest post that looked at who Democrats were voting for in the Democratic primaries, and how Obama is now trying to “work the refs” to set criteria for the super-delegates to make their decisions that are to his advantage.
http://www.taylormarsh.com/arc.....p?id=27036
we now return you to your regularly scheduled, on-topic discussion.
And Mr. VP five time ‘nam deferment Dick: the same goes for you. You yellow belly.
Siun, Pups… I or Fixer will post more information about Lurch and the fate of Main and Central as we learn more. Lurch was taken from us far too soon and too suddenly. We will miss him greatly. Siun, thanks for your kind words, Lurch respected and liked you greatly and told me he appreciated all your kindness and support.
We will miss Lurch. A lot.
Thanks for the link. There isn’t much I can add that hasn’t been said on many threads, but about 80% of troops are being killed by bombs that are buried and calibrated to detect the weight of vehicles (many more than kill people on foot) and the Humvees of course, aren’t protecting them. We have been there since March 20, 2003 and that is just too long to metabolize getting the protection their they need. That coupled with the billions lost over there is mind boggling.
I’m sorry I keep interchanging their and there–I’ll try to fix that.
Crying…
oh Jo … thank you for coming by.
tears here again … and condolences to all the team.
Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rice, Rumsfeld and Powell. Talk about sidewinders.
TexasBetsy reported a few days ago that Alfred is OK, but is not allowed to post on his blogs or to comment. At least that is how I understood it.YMMV.
(I’ll ask - as last week - that we limit discussion of the presidentials to substantive policy comments with links rather than the piefights … whether it’s missing friends or the sorrows in Iraq, these deserve our attention in the midst of primary insanity)
sorry siun. Please feel free to delete my post.
So Bush is sending Rice to Kenya tomorrow. Now I can get some sleep tonight.
Can I pass around some hankies to my dear friends tonight?
So many deaths.
Grief.
Tears.
Tears are good sometimes.
Sharing the feelings, tonight.
Try as I may, I can’t read anything over there as there has been a tendency to flirt with republican talking points and that makes me have to shampoo my brain
And Hugh.
I ran across an article in a Saudi news source that was quite telling …
Iraq Realities Challenge US Platitudes
which ends with the following note on how Iraqis see the US:
I can’t vouch for the source but the article gives quite a view from ME perspective on recent events.
Unfortunately, i did not have the pleasure of reading his work, but I offer my deepest condolences.
Wonder how the Palestinians are doing tonight in their gulag.
Wobblybits - take a look at the archives of Lurch’s work … it’s very worth reading.
this must be the good news from Iraq that the media keeps failing to report
I was just looking at this video
I’ll do that Siun. Thanks
I want the next president, in the strongest of terms, to seek a fair settlement to the Israeli-Palestinian “problem”.
I haven’t seen LHP either.
I miss Al too.
I still think of his advice to me about Apples & Cinnamon.
Where ever you are Al…Thanks.
Nancy Reagan hospitalized.
I’m kinda scared to post new issues since apparently there is a news dealio here on FDL that we should all be aware of…
Aah, ya missed some excellent insight and commentary on our Iraqi quagmire and the sorry shape the military is in currently… 8-(
Do tell.
What’s that about and is it something we need to know.
Policy?
ty.
I’m sure Big Mitch would’ve chimed in too, particularly on this thread…!
Sorry for not knowing what Loo Hoo is referring to.
I wasn’t here all day, but I’d like to be appropriate.
So….fill me in? kindly?
I’m glad she didn’t break her hip… I don’t wish it upon anyone…!
There will never be peace in the Middle East until the Palestinians have a homeland.
demi and LooHOo … I’m just asking that we take a break from the candidate arguments - unless someone has something about their policies, etc and includes links. I get sooo tired of the pie fight of such discussions, I think it’s nice to have a pause … and I think we need to remember what we’re trying to change. No new policy and no big deal
The Newsbox is a great new feature - and our esteemable mods keep it updated throughout the day and night … and I’m sure they’re always happy to see a link to something that may not have caught their eye yet.
And, not just the crummy desert. Maybe a little piece of land with some water? Ya know?
I agree, and similarly, the Kurds…!
Did I ever mention that they’re da bestest Mods…? ;-)
I was just asking.
No pie.
Sheesh.
Okay, maybe Humble Pie?
And, I did ask for a kind answer.
He was in Japan. Hopefully, he still is.
Heh, for some strange reason, Hawaii’s being inundated with Hill and Obama ads, and one Obama ad just aired quoting him saying; “we need to remove our troops asap!” Sounds good to me…!
This is funny.
Was I out of line, Siun? *g*
Boy you got that right! they do an awesome job day after day … nights too!
John,
I heard an ad for Durston on 1240 today. It was really good.
shhhh …
and demi, I did not mean to be “unkind” just explanatory … and no criticism was aimed at you or LooHoo. Time for deep breaths all.
CT … when is the primary there?
Damn Skippy! Suz, is da bestest…! *g*
Tuesday evening, and I promised Marion I’d relate my caucus experience…! ;-)
The one on torture?
yep.
Uhoh, don’t tell Suz! She’ll never let me hear the end of it…! *sigh*
Suz is teh hostest with the mostest, that’s for sure!
So what CD is Durstand in?
Yeah. I know I’m cracking up right about now.
Good evening all.
Siun, I’ve read here that Muqtada al-Sadr has “returned to school” (?) to “become an Ayatollah”. If true, do you care to brainstorm how this will affect the leadership dynamics in Iraq?
Condolences to Lurch’s beloved, and to those who loved him.
3rd CD
Here’s the J.O. we have for a Representative
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIZ97qjWmiw
How many suicide car bombings occurred in Iraq and Afghanistan before our intervention…? Wow, none…! WTF? Sorry, ABC world News was reporting the worst terroristic attack ’since the Taliban fell’…! 8-(
Peace in the Middle East is essential.
Goodnight good people from me and kiddo.
L.
Aloha, Lahoma and OKK!
I’m sad that he’s gone, and I never really knew him. Thanks for posting this, Sium.
RonD … he announced his study plans a while back and I don’t expect them to alter his role, if anything, reaching that level would help.
Now how much control he has and can maintain is a key issue I think - so far, he’s able to control his main forces and would most likely win a fair election.
Ooh, that’s interesting…!
Will he continue to rule while he’s studying…?
Siun- I wanted to let you know that I had sent you a copy of an article from Foreign Policy, at your mac addy- “A World Without Islam” One of my undergrads alerted me to this. I haven’t read it in full, but it looks very interesting, and thought it might be to you also.
Here’s the link to the site (summary only) but I sent you the full version.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/u.....ry_id=4094
RIP Lurch.
You know he was a good guy when he would even listen to my comments and enlighten me when I was off course a bit.
Good Man, his knowledge is already missed.
yep … no change as far as I’ve seen
Hi VG - just got it and your emails - have had an issue with computers here, I’ll catch up and get back to you. thanks!
How can a system where leaders need to gain more education to advance possibly succeed?
And a round of applause for Fixer.
Stepping up to the plate and taking care of the place in Lurch’s absence and going the extra mile.
There’s another good man.
Ain’t that the ‘Great American Dream’…? Or, so I’ve been told… ;-)
hear hear … I was so happy to see Fixer stepping in to keep things going.
Noonan - al Sadr is studying for an advanced religious degree while remaining a military/political leader and that’s completely normal in his culture.
Um, sorry about the typo, Siun. The ‘m’, so near to the ‘n’, and so alike, and yet, so wrong.
I was referring to the education our leader has, and what good that’s done him :) (and us)
and how we’re working to make their country more like ours
hey Cujo … I have misspelled it often and it is my name!
Then again Dick Nixon was reported to be an observant Quaker.
-G
A true Friend, indeed…! ;-)
ah … our dear leader could maybe do with some studies on morality, eh?
A Kuwaiti paper is reporting the assassination of Muganiyah was carried out by an Arab nation that shares a border with Syria.
The funding for the assassination reportedly came from a Gulf state.
This seems to contradict Mike McConnell indicating that Syria or Iran killed him.
-G
Actually aren’t we making ours more like theirs… A dictatorship?
Got a link Greg - I’d be interested in reading that.
Our stabilizing is sure effective, eh?
The Turks? I still think Mossad played an integral role…!
Teddy’s upstairs
And then, he might not be dead at all. What a great opportunity to go under.
Siun, if you ever come back and read this, could you please explain why you called me out? That was embarrassing.
loo hoo, check comment 73, up thread
siun kinda splained what happened