I’m sorry; I’m at the point that I’m not interested in handling Hillary Clinton’s candidacy, nor the people who are so blindly supporting it, with kid gloves anymore. Push is coming to shove, and Barack Obama is demonstrating an astounding ability to swamp the republicans at pulling support, and he’s doing it in conservative states. :o)

Additionall, most of her supporters are at a level of denial about her being a progressive that is akin to the reaction we get when we point out all the bullshit about “operation Iraqi freedom”.

This election is governed by two facts:

1. The republicans are going into it with more negatives than any political party in decades, and depending on what happens in Iraq, and with the economy, perhaps in our history.

2. The only candidate who can rescue them is not a republican; she’s Hillary Clinton. Moreover, in the past 5 years, she has not done anything to deserve the kind of indiscriminate zeal with which so many of her supporters are defending her. She’s not risked a dime’s worth of political capital for our side. Instead, as we saw in bush’s SOTU address, she’s still idiotically trying to suck up to the right wing, by applauding his “surge accomplished” bullshit.

At this point, we need to get to the truth of which candidate can win this election for us, and win it big. If searching for that, debating about that, and putting up the links to demonstrate what we’re talking about, makes her supporters uncomfortable, or Obama’s supporters, for that matter, that’s a VERY small price to pay, for cutting through the “we have two fine candidates who are equally electable” nonsense.

You mean, like supporting bush’s bloodbath for most of the past five years?

Pulling shit like co-sponsoring, along with one of the biggest kneejerk conservatives in the Senate, Bennett from Utah, the amendment to make flagburning a federal crime?

Supporting the Kyle-Lieberman amendment, to give bush help at starting up quagmire #2?

Schmoozing with FauxNews and Rupert Murdoch?

That kind of continuing “the status quo”?

I don’t know if anyone else cares, but part of ”changing” the ”broken system” and not doing business as usual would have meant using your PAC to support those who believe as you do, no? Especially on Iraq, which is supposed to be an indicator of his superior judgement–he supported multiple pro-AUMF senators and reps.

As far as the volatility in the markets, that does have to do with my point which apparently I did not succeed in conveying.

For one, the login system is hostile. If I forget my password, it sends me a new one that I can’t change. Since the new password is random number, I can’t remember it, so this continues. It looks like I have to go thru an annoying many step process just to login. Can you please provide a mechanism to change the password back to something I can remember. Or just send me my password. All I have to do is try to login from some other location with the old password and this starts all over again.

Secondly, it never sent the authorization email to my nwlink.com address, so I had to use a secondary google account. This happened more than once. The mail didn’t get trapped in spam filters, it just never arrived.
If nwlink.com is on some sort of shit list, this is deeply mistaken as it is a very good ISP.

Finally, can you please indent the content under the topic headings!!! The content is slightly OUT-dented from the headings and it SO wrong. I am a graphic & interface designer and even though there are very few absolutes, this is pretty close to one of them. You never outdent subordinate elements. EmptyWheel does this properly, even with the new design, so can you please do this too.

http://www.sinfest.net/archive…..micID=2721

He’s been on this theme for several days.

Maybe. You can never discount the possibility that the Congress suddenly stopped being self-absorbed rich folks who are convinced that they’re entitled to have poltical things their way, and become aware of who they actually work for. I suppose that’s possible.

But, as a non-psychologist treading on Pachacutec’s area of expertise, I’d have to say that there’s at least one thing that argues against this – acceptance of a new reality is usually the third or fourth stage in this process. We still haven’t gotten past anger and hostility yet.

Many of us, including folks much smarter than I have observed that this is a Congress that feels as though it’s above the concerns of most of us. It really doesn’t seem to give a shit about what’s going on in Iraq, particularly if you look at the legislation it’s passed since taking office last year. We’ve had to beg it repeatedly to uphold its oath in matters like FISA and torture. To them, I suspect we netroots folks, and the citizenry at large whose opinions we represent, are just troublesome little pests. For people who feel so entitled, hostility is the next step, not acceptance. We haven’t seen that hostility yet, near as I can tell.

They certainly don’t view us as their equals. Remember Rep. David Obey (D-OH) lecturing a military mom about how difficult an issue Iraq was? How arrogant do you have to be to lecture a parent worried about her child’s life being lost in a useless war about how hard it is to get him out of it? When was the last time you felt inclined to negotiate with a subordinate or a household pet? When they get uppity, the natural reaction is to scold, yell, threaten, or otherwise display hostility or anger. If you’re one of those who realize that almost all dealings with your fellow creatures are a negotiation of some sort, good for you. Sadly, I think you’re in the minority.

So yes, it’s certainly possible that the Democrats in Congress have seen the light, but I think we’re still a long way from that point. I don’t have an alternative explanation, but that’s beside the point. Coincidence doesn’t require explanation.

“I don’t see one in the remaining field.”

Then you haven’t been paying attention. In red state Virginia, Obama pulled 136,000 more votes than all of the repubicans combined.

He did the same thing, in Maryland.

He singlehandedly turned South Carolina from a dead lock for the republicans in the general into a state where, if we nominate him, we have an excellent chance to carry the cradle of the confederacy, for the first time in 32 years, with all that that sgnals, for the rest of the south and the country. And if you don’t understand the implications of that, then I’m not sure what to tell you, except what I’ve already said:

Nominating Barack Obama will turn John McCain and the republican party into a pair of sacrificial goats.

The moment it becomes apparent that he’s going to be our candidate the republican implosion will begin. Quietly, at first, but in this election, because of what the republican’s have done, and what they obviously want to do more of, it will, by midsummer, become a freight-train roar.

Barack Obama is poised to make political history. His coattails will be miles long.

Peony@115; I agree; but if you’re gonna talk about the movement, you should talk the candidate who is clearly the one doing the most to propel it.

BTW; “volatility of the markets” has very little to do with it.