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		<title>By: cal1942</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/thanks-connecticut/#comment-1276222</link>
		<dc:creator>cal1942</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I hate to say this but when the British withdrew from India Muslims and Hindus slaughtered each other with impunity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So far as Iraq is concerned our presence there makes matters worse. Sunnis and Shias as well as Shias and Shias and Sunnis and Sunnis have been doing it right under our noses. The number of deaths since our unprovoked, unnecessary and immoral invasion of probably near a million is proportionally as bad as the slaughter in India after the British left. The longer we stay the worse it will be.  Leaving may enable a settlement (granted with some violence) to be reached with fewer deaths in the long run. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Our invasion started the slaughter and our own losses in lives and treasure can’t continue without worsening the damage to both countries.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to say this but when the British withdrew from India Muslims and Hindus slaughtered each other with impunity.</p>
<p>So far as Iraq is concerned our presence there makes matters worse. Sunnis and Shias as well as Shias and Shias and Sunnis and Sunnis have been doing it right under our noses. The number of deaths since our unprovoked, unnecessary and immoral invasion of probably near a million is proportionally as bad as the slaughter in India after the British left. The longer we stay the worse it will be.  Leaving may enable a settlement (granted with some violence) to be reached with fewer deaths in the long run. </p>
<p>Our invasion started the slaughter and our own losses in lives and treasure can’t continue without worsening the damage to both countries.</p>
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		<title>By: cal1942</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/thanks-connecticut/#comment-1276189</link>
		<dc:creator>cal1942</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 03:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And of course we prosecuted the Japanese who used this practice as war criminals.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And of course we prosecuted the Japanese who used this practice as war criminals.</p>
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		<title>By: Synoia</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/thanks-connecticut/#comment-1275903</link>
		<dc:creator>Synoia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 00:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“And both Sen. Obama and Clinton want to set a date for withdrawal — that means chaos, that means genocide, that means undoing all the success we’ve achieved and al Qaeda tells the world they defeated the United States of America.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How come this didn’t happen when the British withdrew from their empire? How can you believe the “white man’s burden” trash?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“And both Sen. Obama and Clinton want to set a date for withdrawal — that means chaos, that means genocide, that means undoing all the success we’ve achieved and al Qaeda tells the world they defeated the United States of America.</p>
<p>How come this didn’t happen when the British withdrew from their empire? How can you believe the “white man’s burden” trash?</p>
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		<title>By: SuefromCT</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/thanks-connecticut/#comment-1275624</link>
		<dc:creator>SuefromCT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am very upset, that after all the work John Orman and I have done, you would ever, ever diss the CFL Party.&lt;br /&gt;
Gawd, and I’m the Secretary. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We keep minutes and have rules:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/1/26/161213/827/778/295179&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.dailykos.com/story/.....778/295179&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Agenda:&lt;br /&gt;
I. Dr. John Orman’s reasons for starting the Connecticut for Lieberman Party:&lt;br /&gt;
Professor John Orman discussed his reasons for the continuation of the CFL party.&lt;br /&gt;
These include:&lt;br /&gt;
using it as a mechanism to keep Senator Joseph Lieberman accountable to the voting public. &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We have goals and resolutions:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/1/30/62651/3596/653/296329&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.dailykos.com/story/.....653/296329&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;Senator Lieberman,&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;We, the members of the Connecticut for Lieberman Party, have passed the following goals and resolutions for our party at our meeting held on Thursday, January 18, 2007.&lt;br /&gt;
We call for you to:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Stop misleading Connecticut voters.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
We have questions:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/10/171155/392/842/356135&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.dailykos.com/story/.....842/356135&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;John Orman, Elected Chair of the CFL Party wants to know what happens when a candidate doesn’t join the party he is elected under.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We’ve called for Joe to resign:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/6/13/63147/2224/739/346052&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.dailykos.com/story/.....739/346052&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and we get ‘cease and desist orders from dipwads:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/1/17/2075/87105/871/292027&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.dailykos.com/story/.....871/292027&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Orman says he has received a “cease and desist” letter from one Stuart Korchin, who claims to be the true head of the Connecticut for Lieberman party. Orman’s response: “Prove it.”&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Who is Korchin? Got me. From a Google search, he appears to be an AIPAC stalwart and a medical physicist who owns Radiation Protection Services.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;CFL, working hard.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very upset, that after all the work John Orman and I have done, you would ever, ever diss the CFL Party.<br />
Gawd, and I’m the Secretary. </p>
<p>We keep minutes and have rules:<br />
<a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/1/26/161213/827/778/295179" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/story/&#8230;..778/295179</a></p>
<p><strong><em><br />
Agenda:<br />
I. Dr. John Orman’s reasons for starting the Connecticut for Lieberman Party:<br />
Professor John Orman discussed his reasons for the continuation of the CFL party.<br />
These include:<br />
using it as a mechanism to keep Senator Joseph Lieberman accountable to the voting public. </em></strong></p>
<p>We have goals and resolutions:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/1/30/62651/3596/653/296329" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/story/&#8230;..653/296329</a><br />
<strong><br />
<em>Senator Lieberman,</em></strong><br />
<em><br />
<strong>We, the members of the Connecticut for Lieberman Party, have passed the following goals and resolutions for our party at our meeting held on Thursday, January 18, 2007.<br />
We call for you to:</strong></em></p>
<p><strong><em>Stop misleading Connecticut voters.</em></strong><br />
We have questions:<br />
<a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/7/10/171155/392/842/356135" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/story/&#8230;..842/356135</a></p>
<p><strong><em>John Orman, Elected Chair of the CFL Party wants to know what happens when a candidate doesn’t join the party he is elected under.</em></strong></p>
<p>We’ve called for Joe to resign:<br />
<a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/6/13/63147/2224/739/346052" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/story/&#8230;..739/346052</a></p>
<p>and we get ‘cease and desist orders from dipwads:<br />
<a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/1/17/2075/87105/871/292027" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/story/&#8230;..871/292027</a></p>
<p><strong><em>Orman says he has received a “cease and desist” letter from one Stuart Korchin, who claims to be the true head of the Connecticut for Lieberman party. Orman’s response: “Prove it.”</em></strong></p>
<p><strong><em>Who is Korchin? Got me. From a Google search, he appears to be an AIPAC stalwart and a medical physicist who owns Radiation Protection Services.</em></strong></p>
<p>CFL, working hard.</p>
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		<title>By: victoreador</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/thanks-connecticut/#comment-1275136</link>
		<dc:creator>victoreador</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;CFL&lt;/strong&gt;= &lt;strong&gt;C&lt;/strong&gt;ongenital &lt;strong&gt;F&lt;/strong&gt;ucking &lt;strong&gt;L&lt;/strong&gt;iar&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>CFL</strong>= <strong>C</strong>ongenital <strong>F</strong>ucking <strong>L</strong>iar</p>
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		<title>By: CTBob</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/thanks-connecticut/#comment-1275065</link>
		<dc:creator>CTBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;While you’re at it, blame California for Nancy Pelosi; Nevada for Harry Reid; Florida for George Bush; and every other state that allowed a sleazy asshole to slither into office.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah, but WE’RE the bad guys.  Jesus.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While you’re at it, blame California for Nancy Pelosi; Nevada for Harry Reid; Florida for George Bush; and every other state that allowed a sleazy asshole to slither into office.  </p>
<p>Yeah, but WE’RE the bad guys.  Jesus.</p>
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		<title>By: deandra</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/thanks-connecticut/#comment-1275057</link>
		<dc:creator>deandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Connecticut (where I reside) takes no ‘ownership’ for Joe Lieberman.  He is a monster of his own creation.  It was a dirty election in which the republicans won.  Stop blaming an &lt;strong&gt;entire&lt;/strong&gt; state for the actions of some republicans.  Karl Rove’s White House even contributed their support.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Connecticut (where I reside) takes no ‘ownership’ for Joe Lieberman.  He is a monster of his own creation.  It was a dirty election in which the republicans won.  Stop blaming an <strong>entire</strong> state for the actions of some republicans.  Karl Rove’s White House even contributed their support.</p>
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		<title>By: cobernicus</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/thanks-connecticut/#comment-1275002</link>
		<dc:creator>cobernicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Don’t blame us!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Connecticut Democrats voted Joe out!  He only got in because the Republicans refused to run a viable candidate and all the R’s voted for him.  Tomorrow is too late for this pantload to be gone.  Waterboarding is too good for him!  Let’s throw him out and give the Senate back to the Republicans, who really control it anyway, given the spinelessness of Sen. Reid, and his acceptance of phantom filibusters.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And don’t forget, Connecticut is also the home the primary hero in this mess — &lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;Chris Dodd!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Don’t blame us!<br />
</strong></p>
<p>Connecticut Democrats voted Joe out!  He only got in because the Republicans refused to run a viable candidate and all the R’s voted for him.  Tomorrow is too late for this pantload to be gone.  Waterboarding is too good for him!  Let’s throw him out and give the Senate back to the Republicans, who really control it anyway, given the spinelessness of Sen. Reid, and his acceptance of phantom filibusters.</p>
<p>And don’t forget, Connecticut is also the home the primary hero in this mess — <strong></strong>Chris Dodd!</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/thanks-connecticut/#comment-1274993</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Speaking of McCain double-talk, CNN and the NYT dutifully pass on McCain’s attacks on Obama’s voting record without mentioning that &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://mediamatters.org/items/200802140006?f=h_top&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;McCain’s missed so many Senate votes that the National Journal couldn’t rate Mister Double Talk’s own voting record for 2007.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of McCain double-talk, CNN and the NYT dutifully pass on McCain’s attacks on Obama’s voting record without mentioning that <strong><a href="http://mediamatters.org/items/200802140006?f=h_top" rel="nofollow">McCain’s missed so many Senate votes that the National Journal couldn’t rate Mister Double Talk’s own voting record for 2007.</a></strong></p>
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		<title>By: mmc9431</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/thanks-connecticut/#comment-1274908</link>
		<dc:creator>mmc9431</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I realize that the Dem’s need Lieberman until the election, but I also think there is such a thing as principles. No one should be caucusing with the party that believes in torture. No tent should be that broad. I believe he deserves a majhor slap down from the party leaders over this comment.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Waterboarding is torture. It always was torture. It is illegal and always was illegal. We executed prisoners of war for this act. To suddenly try to remarket the brand as “enhanced Interrogation” is insulting. I can’t believe that we as a country can even be having this discussion. All my life, we have condemned other nations for such crimes. If we are a nation of principles, then we need to stand by them. I wish one of our candidates would have the courage to really stand up against this, rather than the vague generalities that they have expressed so far.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize that the Dem’s need Lieberman until the election, but I also think there is such a thing as principles. No one should be caucusing with the party that believes in torture. No tent should be that broad. I believe he deserves a majhor slap down from the party leaders over this comment.</p>
<p>Waterboarding is torture. It always was torture. It is illegal and always was illegal. We executed prisoners of war for this act. To suddenly try to remarket the brand as “enhanced Interrogation” is insulting. I can’t believe that we as a country can even be having this discussion. All my life, we have condemned other nations for such crimes. If we are a nation of principles, then we need to stand by them. I wish one of our candidates would have the courage to really stand up against this, rather than the vague generalities that they have expressed so far.</p>
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