Comments on: McCain Doubles Down On “100 Years In Iraq” Pledge http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/mccain-doubles-down-on-100-years-in-iraq-pledge/ Firedoglake weblog Sat, 18 Feb 2012 00:02:46 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: RevBev http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/mccain-doubles-down-on-100-years-in-iraq-pledge/#comment-1275717 RevBev Fri, 15 Feb 2008 22:25:19 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/mccain-doubles-down-on-100-years-in-iraq-pledge/#comment-1275717 <p>I can’t read through the notes; the very concept is all too scary. We are killers, can he not see that? We have torn a country apart and we went in on a lie. Those who even thought the war may have been a good idea at the start say it has been a disaster in execution. How much more? How long, O God? That he does not even entertain an withdrawal plan..not saying a timetable..is beyond the rational or reality. Help. Maybe it is time to take to the streets.</p> I can’t read through the notes; the very concept is all too scary. We are killers, can he not see that? We have torn a country apart and we went in on a lie. Those who even thought the war may have been a good idea at the start say it has been a disaster in execution. How much more? How long, O God? That he does not even entertain an withdrawal plan..not saying a timetable..is beyond the rational or reality. Help. Maybe it is time to take to the streets.

]]> By: marshen http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/mccain-doubles-down-on-100-years-in-iraq-pledge/#comment-1275665 marshen Fri, 15 Feb 2008 21:45:26 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/mccain-doubles-down-on-100-years-in-iraq-pledge/#comment-1275665 <p>I think the average Iraqi would like for us to fix their electricity, sewers, and water systems and maybe repair the buildings we damaged or destroyed and then get the hell out of Iraq. McCain’s view that we can occupy an Islamic country indefinitely without repercussion proves he has no knowledge or understanding of that culture. The idea that it is ok as long as American soldiers are’nt being killed shows he has no hope for any diplomatic solution or that Iraq can eventually become an independant country.</p> I think the average Iraqi would like for us to fix their electricity, sewers, and water systems and maybe repair the buildings we damaged or destroyed and then get the hell out of Iraq. McCain’s view that we can occupy an Islamic country indefinitely without repercussion proves he has no knowledge or understanding of that culture. The idea that it is ok as long as American soldiers are’nt being killed shows he has no hope for any diplomatic solution or that Iraq can eventually become an independant country.

]]> By: GrouchPotato http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/mccain-doubles-down-on-100-years-in-iraq-pledge/#comment-1275563 GrouchPotato Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:47:12 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/mccain-doubles-down-on-100-years-in-iraq-pledge/#comment-1275563 <p>Thats the argument we should have been having all along. How can we be for or against “the war”, when the real cost/benefit analysis has never been presented.</p> <p>Instead, everyone apparently finds it easier to wrap us in the flag, terrorize us, and feed platitudes. I guess in reality it’s the only way they ever could have gotten something like this off the ground.</p> <p>The really think we’re idiots to accept any other premise though, and I guess for the most part we are. Of course, they’re bigger idiots for thinking we’d be greeted with “flowers and candy” - they really did think this would be a cake-walk.</p> Thats the argument we should have been having all along. How can we be for or against “the war”, when the real cost/benefit analysis has never been presented.

Instead, everyone apparently finds it easier to wrap us in the flag, terrorize us, and feed platitudes. I guess in reality it’s the only way they ever could have gotten something like this off the ground.

The really think we’re idiots to accept any other premise though, and I guess for the most part we are. Of course, they’re bigger idiots for thinking we’d be greeted with “flowers and candy” – they really did think this would be a cake-walk.

]]> By: globalcitizen http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/mccain-doubles-down-on-100-years-in-iraq-pledge/#comment-1275541 globalcitizen Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:33:18 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/mccain-doubles-down-on-100-years-in-iraq-pledge/#comment-1275541 <p>Exactly, I think Dems need to ask the question about why the U.S. has troops in so many countries and what earthly reason there is for us to occupy Iraq for the indefinite future, especially when it is obvious we are unwelcome to most Iraqis and most people in the region. Global military hegemony is unbelievably expensive and totally unnecessary — in the end much of it it contributes little to the actual defense of the United States. There really is a need to rethink this whole question before PNAC premises bankrupt the nation and continuously and forever prevent all manner of good things from being affordable — through excessive debt, high taxes and no money for urgently needed domestic programs.</p> Exactly, I think Dems need to ask the question about why the U.S. has troops in so many countries and what earthly reason there is for us to occupy Iraq for the indefinite future, especially when it is obvious we are unwelcome to most Iraqis and most people in the region. Global military hegemony is unbelievably expensive and totally unnecessary — in the end much of it it contributes little to the actual defense of the United States. There really is a need to rethink this whole question before PNAC premises bankrupt the nation and continuously and forever prevent all manner of good things from being affordable — through excessive debt, high taxes and no money for urgently needed domestic programs.

]]> By: perris http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/mccain-doubles-down-on-100-years-in-iraq-pledge/#comment-1275501 perris Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:12:06 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/mccain-doubles-down-on-100-years-in-iraq-pledge/#comment-1275501 <blockquote><p>Ten years later we were in the airport in DC coming back and the General and his wife were waiting for their plane. We started talking, they lived in Auburn and we are all Bulldogs and the Georgia-Auburn game was that weekend. Mrs Moore said, “I love you boys but I’m still for Auburn. . .War Eagle”. She passed away a couple of years ago but I’ll never forget how sweet she was to us grungy enlisted men!</p> </blockquote> <p>thanx for the stories raven, they are heart warming.</p>

Ten years later we were in the airport in DC coming back and the General and his wife were waiting for their plane. We started talking, they lived in Auburn and we are all Bulldogs and the Georgia-Auburn game was that weekend. Mrs Moore said, “I love you boys but I’m still for Auburn. . .War Eagle”. She passed away a couple of years ago but I’ll never forget how sweet she was to us grungy enlisted men!

thanx for the stories raven, they are heart warming.

]]> By: Raven http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/mccain-doubles-down-on-100-years-in-iraq-pledge/#comment-1275497 Raven Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:10:34 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/mccain-doubles-down-on-100-years-in-iraq-pledge/#comment-1275497 <p>I know, I felt a little funny since I was such a raggedy ass trooper and and anti-war one at that! I skipped that part with them. . .nothing to gain.</p> I know, I felt a little funny since I was such a raggedy ass trooper and and anti-war one at that! I skipped that part with them. . .nothing to gain.

]]> By: sadlyyes http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/mccain-doubles-down-on-100-years-in-iraq-pledge/#comment-1275496 sadlyyes Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:10:15 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/mccain-doubles-down-on-100-years-in-iraq-pledge/#comment-1275496 <p>yup,whe are always scraping the bottom of the barrel,when it comes to repuke canidates/prezledents</p> yup,whe are always scraping the bottom of the barrel,when it comes to repuke canidates/prezledents

]]> By: Raven http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/mccain-doubles-down-on-100-years-in-iraq-pledge/#comment-1275494 Raven Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:09:20 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/mccain-doubles-down-on-100-years-in-iraq-pledge/#comment-1275494 <p>Absolutely.</p> Absolutely.

]]> By: Raven http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/mccain-doubles-down-on-100-years-in-iraq-pledge/#comment-1275490 Raven Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:07:36 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/mccain-doubles-down-on-100-years-in-iraq-pledge/#comment-1275490 <p>Ten years later we were in the airport in DC coming back and the General and his wife were waiting for their plane. We started talking, they lived in Auburn and we are all Bulldogs and the Georgia-Auburn game was that weekend. Mrs Moore said, “I love you boys but I’m still for Auburn. . .War Eagle”. She passed away a couple of years ago but I’ll never forget how sweet she was to us grungy enlisted men!</p> Ten years later we were in the airport in DC coming back and the General and his wife were waiting for their plane. We started talking, they lived in Auburn and we are all Bulldogs and the Georgia-Auburn game was that weekend. Mrs Moore said, “I love you boys but I’m still for Auburn. . .War Eagle”. She passed away a couple of years ago but I’ll never forget how sweet she was to us grungy enlisted men!

]]> By: merkwurdiglieber http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/mccain-doubles-down-on-100-years-in-iraq-pledge/#comment-1275486 merkwurdiglieber Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:07:01 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/15/mccain-doubles-down-on-100-years-in-iraq-pledge/#comment-1275486 <p>Yes, I think the cumulative effect of these years of defamation, fear<br /> mongering and lying have knocked some scales off and retribution may<br /> be coming at the polls, even here in Texas.</p> Yes, I think the cumulative effect of these years of defamation, fear
mongering and lying have knocked some scales off and retribution may
be coming at the polls, even here in Texas.

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