Hey, Jane!

Jane!!

I did not see this coming. Perhaps Donna Edwards scared them? Any rumors on what happens next?

It’s a good day to be a Democrat!

Jane!

Jane! This news beats a cigarette. (Used to smoke)

This plus contempt adds up to a pretty good day.

Fuck Bush! I digg it!

This news puts me into an excellent mood for this evening.

Thanks!

Bob in HI

Someone downthread said that we also got a shout out from Dana Pinhead-o too.

Damn, it feels good.

-G

The president bluffed when we could see his cards.

“Lil’ Boots” is such a ridiculous and laughable character. Something right out of “Mad Magazine”.

A virtual high-five to one and all.

Not very good poker.

I still dislike Joe Lieberman above all politicians.

We also get a KO FISA special comment tonight. Good day. :)

I lifted this from another thread, because it is just brilliant.

‘You can not pour water up their nose
You can not whip them with a hose
You can not pretend to electrocute
You can not torture in uniform or suit

You can not torture them over there
You can not torture them anywhere
You can not torture tomorrow or today
You can not torture in any way

You can not torture no matter what the gain
YOU CAN NOT TORTURE AS AN AMERICAN’

Comment by PatrioticLiberalChristian — February 14, 2008 @ 6:27 pm

Way to go Dems!

Pelosi really did make the minority look a bunch of partisan hacks. Good job!

Guess some critters got religion after Al Wynn’s defeat. O Happy Day!

HAPPY VALENTINES DAY… REPUBS SAY…see you in court on the subpeonas…lock step is not bipartisanship

Drive by …

Call me cynical but I won’t believe it until Sunday morning. I’ve seen too many cave-ins in the last year

Damn! Its nice to win a few rounds now and then. Congrats to all of the netroots who called and gnashed their teeth in frustration as the Senate folded over this issue. Kudos to Russ Feingold and Chris Dodd, Rush Holt, John Conyers, Nancy Pelosi, and yes DONNA EDWARDS, (Stoney Hoyers New Best Friend.)

Basking in the virtual glow. Great job firepups. JLC

Oh boy, what a Valentine’s present! Let’s hope the Dems hold firm. I’m so sick of seeing them cave time and again. The American public is watching–and yes, maybe the Edwards election did wake them up a bit. I can always hope, right?

Today was a good day.
Be even better if Nancy and Harry say “no mas” to the Protect America extension and leave it to the next President.

Perhaps they can clarify the one piece of language allowing warrant-less taps on two foreign subjects iff the call is routed through US switchers, which is, after all, the reason FISA needed fixing in the first place, allegedly.

WE THE PEOPLE MADE THE DIFFERENCE

You have to wonder about the thought processes of Nancy Pelosi when she allows such earth-shattering hearings onthe use of steroids by some overpaid “Boy of Summer” and allows the President of the United States to break the law and laugh at her (and all of us) while doing it.

Is Politcal Masochism a Democratic Value? Looking at this crop of invertebrate Dunces, I’d have to say … Yes!

MAYBE THANK YOUS TO ALL CONGRESS CRITTERS THAT STOOD UP FOR OUR CONSTITUTION ARE IN ORDER E-MAILS FAXES AND PHONE CALL TO REINFORCE THE GOOD BEHAVIOR… CALLED CLOSING THE DEAL

This is the most fabulous news unless of course the Dems cave… again.

why does KitBond have such a hard one for torture and the filation for ma bell.

GWB didn’t realize he was actually playing Indian poker w/Pelosi, Conyers, Steny, et al. Simple game, Georgie- one high card takes it all.

Damn, this is some much needed good news. Home early & going to have a Sapphire & tonic to celebrate before watching KO later…

I don’t even smoke and I think I need a cigarette.

It was good for us, too.

Happy V-Day!

1,756 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…

Citizen bigbrother and the Firepup Freedom Fighters:

“WE THE PEOPLE MADE THE DIFFERENCE”

Beautifully said brother big, why don’t we all say it togather, all at once now: WE THE PEOPLE MADE THE DIFFERENCE!!!

Feels good, don’t it??!!!

KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION WE’RE NOT BEHIND ANYONE ANYMORE, WE’RE OUT IN FRONT AND “I FEEL GOOD”!!!

mcconnell being quizzed by Whitehouse RI, and whining that if Protect America Act expires he wouldnt be able to tap Americans without a warrent….but he would be able to tap new individuals under already authorized acts.
translation:
we can pretty much do what we are doing now…under the one-year extension.

He also just said they would continue to collect everything they felt like collecting.

Ya know, if someone were to frame it right, every obstructionist Repub in Congress today walked out into the winter weather to identify themselves to the public on national television.
Could be quite the opportunity…….

Here is another immunity measure (also involves a 1 billion bailout from the treasury on behalf of banks!), this one apparently nearly made it through under the radar until this WashPost article:

So he actually admitted to the public that it was all kabuki??

i feel good

The media reported (if you want to call it that) that Boehner orchestrated his walk out during the FISA vote.

Only problem is that it’s not the truth. He orchestrated his walk out during the contempt hearings just prior to vote and stood there and flat out lied that it was about FISA.

The walk out was just prior to the vote on contempt of Meiers & Bolton not about the FISA bill at all.

All it took for the media to buy into it was one John Boehner standing there lying about what they were walking out about.

All this was verified by Wexler shortly after but you probably haven’t heard that in the traitional media yet.

I have been around politics for a long very long time and these guys are getting away with murder because the media is to lazy to do research.

greenwarrior at #6
February 14th, 2008 at 4:06 pm

”Jane! This news beats a cigarette. (Used to smoke)”

I think Jane meant the cigarette after the climax?!!

There was one female republican, yesterday at the Clemens hearing who said that the federal government wastes billions of dollars, so she objected to the Clemons hearing. Does anyone know the Name of the female Congresswomen? And does she do any work the other 364 days of the year to combat waste?

There is no pretense with this asshole. They are doing what lil boots says and they don’t care who knows.

Pretty frikkin convenient CNN just happened to have a camera crew standing there with their thumb up their butt at that exact moment, I wonder who called ‘em?

Well, color me d’uh.

Remembering that old joke-

Q:Do you usually smoke after sex?
A: Don’t know, I never looked.

Does anyone know of an online site/function where we can email thank yous/support to the dems standing up for the rule of law?

OT..The Bush Crime Families BFFs:

Human Rights Watch has appealed to Saudi Arabia to halt the execution of a woman convicted of witchcraft.

In a letter to King Abdullah, the rights group described the trial and conviction of Fawza Falih as a miscarriage of justice.

The illiterate woman was detained by religious police in 2005 and allegedly beaten and forced to fingerprint a confession that she could not read.

Among her accusers was a man who alleged she made him impotent.

BBC

Sayyy, when did Darth go over there?

I have been somewhat harsh on Sen. Clinton. I intend to be just as tough on Obama.

If, as I have heard, Congress is not going to reconvene until Feb. 25, is someone going to be minding the store to prevent any recess appointments?

Harry wrote a letter, but when it was time to act he stacked the odds against immunity by bringing SSCI S. 2248 to the floor.

PAA is still in effect for a year after Saturday, so I don’t see what shrub is bullshitting about. He thinks Americans read as little as he does.

Pelosi’s Statement

And as to the Speaker I could be tempted to say I am still angry with the Speaker. But I won’t.

When do we get our check for $600. a family? After they pay the phone bill?

“But Democrats are refusing to budge, and Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said that while key committee chairmen would stay in Washington to keep working on the issue, the rest of the House would be going home today.

And because Bush has the constitutional authority to call the House back into session “on extraordinary occasions,” the chamber will go into symbolic “pro forma” sessions rather than adjourn for the week. Senate Democrats have used similar sessions to prevent Bush from making controversial executive branch nominations during that chamber’s recesses.”

wapo

FISA flim-flammery, folks.

There was one female republican, yesterday at the Clemens hearing who said that the federal government wastes billions of dollars, so she objected to the Clemons hearing.

They campaign on ‘refusing to waste money’ and then they govern to waste money and kill innocent people.

Sweet!

Thanks–that’s reassuring.

Like I said yesterday:

“Further cuts in the federal funds rate are on the way. Ben Bernanke is talking about how we are in a slow-moving financial crisis of DeLong Type II: one in which large financial institutions are insolvent — “pressure on bank balance sheets” — and in which lower short-term interest rates and a steeper yield curve are a way of providing institutions with the life jackets they need to paddle to shore.”

I’d like to see fresh Democratic leadership faces in the White House and the Congress. I want Dodd and Edwards in the new administration. I’d like to see Reid and Pelosi re-assigned.

The House Dems gave America a lovely Valentine’s gift, passing the contempt charges and stalling on FISA… Let’s keep up the pressure and have them strip the immunity out of the bill! It’s nice to see some spine in our critters… 8-)

McCain’s latest BS is that he thinks torture works just swell!!

McCain’s latest BS is that he thinks torture works just swell!!

that’s sad really, pathetic. I wonder if he’s well.

After voting the Democrats in in 2006, I think Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid have made many Americans feel helpless.

http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=FxGcAm0EkTU

I so badly want to see Miers & Bolton dragged off to jail. Am I asking too much after such a fun-filled day in the House?

So…did it work on him?

Last year I thought the Dems might use THE ELECTION YEAR to go after Bush & Cheney with impeachment. Maybe they will! Good gawd, wouldn’t that be sumthin’….

He’s just acting like some kind of patsy. I just can’t imagine “what” possible kind of incentive would get him to go along with such a concept of all people. It flies in the face of anything logical…it is just embarrassing. I guess the other Americans that were in the Hanoi Hilton who didn’t or did make it are real proud of that. What is he thinking?

We are watching Olbermann. Lahoma asks me if I’m tired of the Clintons?

Solutions?

Oh, excellent. Good news, badly needed.

Good news out of Congress, for a change . It’s nice. :)

There was one female republican, yesterday at the Clemens hearing who said that the federal government wastes billions of dollars, so she objected to the Clemons hearing. Does anyone know the Name of the female Congresswomen? And does she do any work the other 364 days of the year to combat waste?

Her?
Virginia Foxx
North Carolina-5th, Republican

The House site is horrible to search (intentional?) . They should “waste” a little on fixing that, so we don’t have to waste so much time .

I think it had to be Rep. Lynn A. Westmoreland, Georgia or Rep. Virginia Foxx, North Carolina, I will be able to tell once the transcript gets posted.

I agree with you, but let’s give credit where credit is due: the House Democratic Leadership simply refused to bring the FISA extension to a vote. That was the only real way to derail it, considering the connivance of the Bush (Blue) Dogs. So I think Nancy deserves a little credit here.

Obama out raising Clinton $ by two to one.

Correction to 74: not the extension, the actual bill itself.

You & me both, although I’d settle for them forced onto the HJC hotseat answering questions on the USA firings.

Where are you in ME, Kay, if you don’t mind my asking that here? Grew up outside of Jackman up in NE corner near the border. Got a lot of relatives in Sanford/Springvale also.

Is Hilary going to get rid of Penn?

Employing Mark Penn was certainly a good decision. Wasn’t it?

Thanks, a lot! I wonder how much time she has spent in the last 7 years, trying to cut down on that waste.

Actually Mr. Penn may not be the problem. Sen. Clinton might be. The problem.

I’m going to buy some popcorn that day and camp out in front of the net.

Make that NW corner. Preview is my friend.

Hmm. She needs to ponder pensively … no doubt.

Obama’s her problem.

I wonder if THIS generated any pressure on Mr. ‘I am the Chairman’ to get off his ass and take some action consistent with his oath of office?

I’m gonna be working for Cindy Sheehan to depose Madame Speaker and put the ‘People’s House’ back in the hands of the people instead of overbred political aristocrats who believe they are entitled to their seats.

That’s right. And she seems not prepared to deal with him very well.

Funny, but I’ve always seen myself as a Democrat. Not as a True Believer.

Penultimately, but, in truth, she is her own greatest ‘problem’.

They will end up showing up, sitting behind their “name tags”, and saying nothing…and then the whole thing will drag on…they will never, ever give up info on W…even on pain of torture (now endorsed by McCain)….

Somebody should be all over that McCain story….seriously…that is big!

I am so sick and tired of George W. Bush and the Republicans.

she can’t … micro-demographic polls show that he’s doing a very good job …

gonna repost something I wrote a few chapters down, right on point here;

so here’s the question our lawmakers have to answer;

“suppose a telecom distributes an invention of ours, we can prove the invention is ours and we can prove they stole the data.

will this bill prevent me from recovering my property?”

and;

“suppose some depraved chap in a telecom became insane with wont after hearing my daughter talk on the phone, he stalked her, raped her, murdered her

we can prove the only way he knew about my daughter was through this illegal wiretapping

does this bill mean they have raped and killed my daughter and I can’t get the infomration to prove who that murdering rapist is?”

those are the types of questions that need to be asked of EVERYONE, including the republicans

and I want the democrats that AGREE with us to make examples like those on the house floor and I want them to ask republicans DIRECTLY, do they think a telecom is immune from those situations

HRC is where the buck stops as far as her campaign is concerned.

Well, ultimately in a “fair” election, the people will choose who they are inspired by and whose policies they relate to. She is up against a movement…it is a crazy time in history…once again.

Who knows what will happen…everyday, I’m surprised….and most often..shock-ed.

I’m a Democrat and a True Believer.

I’m a True Believer in the Constitution of the United States.

I’m a True Believer in the Bill of Rights.

I’m a True Believer in the Separation of powers and three co-equal branches of government.

I’m a True Believer in the rule of Law and the concept that no person is above the law.

I blame him for Hilary going Center on the issues which is working bad for her. When people are angry they want extremes we want the war ended now we want a better healthcare plan than either Hilary or Obama are proposing.
We are a 70% majority better LEFTIER ideas is Hilary’s only counter against the quite normal desire many people have to see an African American in the White House.
Holding the Center on issues when Obama is already there gives us no choice and hands the election to Obama. Either she inspires the Base US or she keeps hoping the 30%ers who watch Fox News suddenly decide that they like her.

Jane! Woo Hoo!

Suz and I had lunch awhile ago and smoked cigarettes so you don’t have to.

(*g)

Hear, hear!!

Maddow on MSNBC!

I emailed someone with 2 Penn quotes, saying Penn aint doing Hill any favors.

Got back this, but no link:

Her boy Wolfson isn’t do her any favors either:

“But Clinton will not concede the race to Obama if he wins a greater number of pledged delegates by the end of the primary season, and will count on the 796 elected officials and party bigwigs to put her over the top, if necessary, said Clinton’s communications director, Howard Wolfson.”

Anyone know where this is from?

Unlike Bush’s other work wives, Miers might have a hard time/be really lousy at dissembling under oath- hence the elaborate ruse to hide from HJC subpoena.

Yay!!!!! Maddow is all over the McCain pro-torture stance.

Mind expanding on that?

Curious what you are thinking.

Sour Grapes, Miz Peroxide?

The American people will find it baffling that on a day that House leaders are trying to put off passing critical legislation to keep us safer from the threat of foreign terrorists overseas, they are spending scarce time to become the first congress in history to bring contempt charges against a president’s chief of staff and lawyer. … The ‘people’s House’ should reflect the priorities of the American people, not the fantasies of left-wing bloggers.

It would be nice if we really wielded that kind of power… ;-)

I think I can make exceptions on all of those things, because I believe in them too.

digg Penn’s failure!

Sorry - my 104 was meant for TSF.

Mind expanding on that?

Curious what you are thinking.

I have no problem with saying I second this emotion. Our imes are not merely ‘interesting’ they are so ‘now’.

Snark? Or is Penn using Karl’s “math ” to convince Hilary not to fire him?

Woo hoo. KO special comment tonight on prez hypocrisy. (Wonder what he means by that. Guess I’ll just have to hold my breath until I find out.)

I mean really….McCain, whose entire story has been standing up against torturers, using graphic first-hand experience and tapes….wouldn’t vote against waterboarding!!!!???? Talk about supporting the troops. He must be on crack.

This is pure cannon fodder for the Dems….

So then, when push comes to shove, will she reach out to BASE US or um pander to the 30%? That we should even have to ask this question puts ‘paid’ to her chances for whatever she considers, ’success’.

What on earth has gotten into KO? He’s usually quite sensible. But they’re characterizng HRC as having gone ”on the attack” because she’s saying she had solutions and Obama has speeches. Is she not allowed to fight for herself? Really - this is not unfair campaigning. Doesn’t Obama say that Clinton is the candidate of special interests, etc. Is that ”attack” politics too? Either both are ”attack” politics, or both aren’t. But I don’t see how you have it both ways. Candidates can criticize each other on reasonable and arguable grounds. That’s fair game even when Barack Obama is on other side.

The only thing that seems to get them going is when their Senatorial toes get stepped on . What would be nice, is a leaker to provide instances when they (and MSM members?)were spied upon. That might get them going .

One of the problems for Hillary is her failure, metaphorically speaking of course, to “Kill Bill”. I loved that movie, incidentally.

I rather thought you might…

That’s the thing tho, she isn’t going to the center by a long shot. She has gone right. If it wasn’t for the hard-right stance of the Rs she’d look like a right-wing extremist.

That offensive comment is from this article:

http://www.boston.com/news/pol.....ounts.html

LOL!

You know, something about the thought of the chimpster stamping his feet and holding his breath till he turns purple, while big dick glowers over a scotch he’s white knuckling - makes my valentine kinda sweet.

call me charlie brown, but i’m hoping this wasn’t just some kabuki before the house caves.

I think we can be pretty certain bush has held something over pelosi’s head for her to keep impeachment off the table