Comments on: Late Late Nite FDL: Too Old To Cut The Mustard http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/13/late-late-nite-fdl-too-old-to-cut-the-mustard/ Firedoglake weblog Tue, 24 Nov 2009 17:01:44 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: kenoshaMarge http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/13/late-late-nite-fdl-too-old-to-cut-the-mustard/#comment-1272919 kenoshaMarge Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:55:02 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/13/late-late-nite-fdl-too-old-to-cut-the-mustard/#comment-1272919 <p>Discussing the problems of an aging president is different than what a lot of the posters here are doing. I repeat, age discrimination is as ugly as any other discrimination. </p> <p>If the shoe doesn’t fit and you are simply discussing the problems of an aging person in the White House then the remark wasn’t addressed to you.</p> <p>And a doddering Reagan was not more frightening the Bush/Cheney and that has nothing to do with age.</p> <p>Whatever else I think about John McCain, and what I think ain’t pretty, I respect his service to his country and would bash the hell out of him for his ideas not his age. He doesn’t seem to be senile, he seems to be a war-mongering Republican to me.</p> Discussing the problems of an aging president is different than what a lot of the posters here are doing. I repeat, age discrimination is as ugly as any other discrimination.

If the shoe doesn’t fit and you are simply discussing the problems of an aging person in the White House then the remark wasn’t addressed to you.

And a doddering Reagan was not more frightening the Bush/Cheney and that has nothing to do with age.

Whatever else I think about John McCain, and what I think ain’t pretty, I respect his service to his country and would bash the hell out of him for his ideas not his age. He doesn’t seem to be senile, he seems to be a war-mongering Republican to me.

]]> By: Eureka Springs http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/13/late-late-nite-fdl-too-old-to-cut-the-mustard/#comment-1272903 Eureka Springs Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:41:12 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/13/late-late-nite-fdl-too-old-to-cut-the-mustard/#comment-1272903 <p>Good morning, PW, and thanks for the stats as well as reminding some folks about Reagan. I would never suggest in a blanket statement that 72 years of age is a point in time which should disqualify one from running or serving as president. But I stand by my own judgment of McCain as an individual. He’s too old.</p> <p>As for Senator Byrd, heck yes, He’s too old too cut the presidential mustard. I sure hope he can stick around the Senate for a while.</p> Good morning, PW, and thanks for the stats as well as reminding some folks about Reagan. I would never suggest in a blanket statement that 72 years of age is a point in time which should disqualify one from running or serving as president. But I stand by my own judgment of McCain as an individual. He’s too old.

As for Senator Byrd, heck yes, He’s too old too cut the presidential mustard. I sure hope he can stick around the Senate for a while.

]]> By: RevBev http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/13/late-late-nite-fdl-too-old-to-cut-the-mustard/#comment-1272780 RevBev Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:18:57 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/13/late-late-nite-fdl-too-old-to-cut-the-mustard/#comment-1272780 <p>I am so glad you spoke to this. I was too tired to make a noise this morning, but the age snark has been quite longstanding here. Also the fat thing. As we know, some folks really respect, honor the aged. I think that is quite important actually because just by having lived, they have seen and experienced and survived alot. That doesn’t make them nice, of course. But since we all acknowledge that life is hard, it does mean that they have navigated alot of the world’s past.</p> <p>I see the agist insults on par with the white bitch view; mean and intolerable.</p> I am so glad you spoke to this. I was too tired to make a noise this morning, but the age snark has been quite longstanding here. Also the fat thing. As we know, some folks really respect, honor the aged. I think that is quite important actually because just by having lived, they have seen and experienced and survived alot. That doesn’t make them nice, of course. But since we all acknowledge that life is hard, it does mean that they have navigated alot of the world’s past.

I see the agist insults on par with the white bitch view; mean and intolerable.

]]> By: Phoenix Woman http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/13/late-late-nite-fdl-too-old-to-cut-the-mustard/#comment-1272635 Phoenix Woman Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:14:17 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/13/late-late-nite-fdl-too-old-to-cut-the-mustard/#comment-1272635 <p>There’s a difference between age discrimination and remembering the sight of a senile warmongering Reagan holding the briefcase with the launch codes.</p> <p>And again, with McCain being older than even Reagan at the time Reagan won the White House, <a href="http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/13/late-late-nite-fdl-too-old-to-cut-the-mustard/#comment-1272618" rel="nofollow">there’s <strong>a 3.5% probability that he’ll just up and croak</strong>, without help from an assassin’s bullet</a> — and that probability will only increase with time. Consider also that McCain, in order to pacify the hardcore nutjob conservatives, will have to pick as his running mate someone even nuttier than he is. How does “President John Cornyn” sound?</p> There’s a difference between age discrimination and remembering the sight of a senile warmongering Reagan holding the briefcase with the launch codes.

And again, with McCain being older than even Reagan at the time Reagan won the White House, there’s a 3.5% probability that he’ll just up and croak, without help from an assassin’s bullet — and that probability will only increase with time. Consider also that McCain, in order to pacify the hardcore nutjob conservatives, will have to pick as his running mate someone even nuttier than he is. How does “President John Cornyn” sound?

]]> By: kenoshaMarge http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/13/late-late-nite-fdl-too-old-to-cut-the-mustard/#comment-1272621 kenoshaMarge Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:06:34 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/13/late-late-nite-fdl-too-old-to-cut-the-mustard/#comment-1272621 <p>Funny thing, I always thought that age discrimination was just as ugly as any other kind. My bad.</p> Funny thing, I always thought that age discrimination was just as ugly as any other kind. My bad.

]]> By: Phoenix Woman http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/13/late-late-nite-fdl-too-old-to-cut-the-mustard/#comment-1272618 Phoenix Woman Thu, 14 Feb 2008 14:03:20 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/13/late-late-nite-fdl-too-old-to-cut-the-mustard/#comment-1272618 <p>From Eschaton the other day:<br /> </p><blockquote> <p> Probability of Death</p> <p>Rather gruesome topic, but <a href="http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/02/the_age_thing_1.php" rel="nofollow">a commenter</a> points us to <a href="http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/STATS/table4c6.html" rel="nofollow">this actuarial life table</a>. Indeed a 72 year old man has a much higher probability of death (3.5% over the year) than does a 60 year old woman (.8%) or 46 year old man (.4%).</p> <p>-Atrios <a href="http://atrios.blogspot.com/2008_02_10_archive.html#5742922203953685375" rel="nofollow">15:02</a></p></blockquote> <p>Consider also that McCain, in order to make the GOP’s nutcase base finally fall into line, will have to pick a genuine psychopath as his running mate. So if he croaked in the midst of another chorus of “Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran”, then we’d have somebody in charge who really DID plan on Apocalypse Now.</p> From Eschaton the other day:

Probability of Death

Rather gruesome topic, but a commenter points us to this actuarial life table. Indeed a 72 year old man has a much higher probability of death (3.5% over the year) than does a 60 year old woman (.8%) or 46 year old man (.4%).

-Atrios 15:02

Consider also that McCain, in order to make the GOP’s nutcase base finally fall into line, will have to pick a genuine psychopath as his running mate. So if he croaked in the midst of another chorus of “Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran”, then we’d have somebody in charge who really DID plan on Apocalypse Now.

]]> By: centidude http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/13/late-late-nite-fdl-too-old-to-cut-the-mustard/#comment-1272568 centidude Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:12:38 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/13/late-late-nite-fdl-too-old-to-cut-the-mustard/#comment-1272568 <p>McCain aint that old dagnabbit!</p> McCain aint that old dagnabbit!

]]> By: joelmael http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/13/late-late-nite-fdl-too-old-to-cut-the-mustard/#comment-1272554 joelmael Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:15:12 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/13/late-late-nite-fdl-too-old-to-cut-the-mustard/#comment-1272554 <p>Unless I am misinformed McCain willingly bombed unseen helpless civiians in another war of aggression. I assume in his own mind he used the Nuremburg defense, just following legal orders. I think if we captured a North Korean pilot who had napalmed us we would execute instead of imprison.</p> <p>But we must not speak of our ‘war heroes’ that way.</p> <p>Joel Mael</p> Unless I am misinformed McCain willingly bombed unseen helpless civiians in another war of aggression. I assume in his own mind he used the Nuremburg defense, just following legal orders. I think if we captured a North Korean pilot who had napalmed us we would execute instead of imprison.

But we must not speak of our ‘war heroes’ that way.

Joel Mael

]]> By: joelmael http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/13/late-late-nite-fdl-too-old-to-cut-the-mustard/#comment-1272553 joelmael Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:00:01 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/13/late-late-nite-fdl-too-old-to-cut-the-mustard/#comment-1272553 <p>And when you think “old”, think Sen. Byrd, certainly the most eloquent and perhaps the strongest voice against allowing Bush to invade Iraq.</p> <p>That’s what I call old!</p> And when you think “old”, think Sen. Byrd, certainly the most eloquent and perhaps the strongest voice against allowing Bush to invade Iraq.

That’s what I call old!

]]> By: joelmael http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/13/late-late-nite-fdl-too-old-to-cut-the-mustard/#comment-1272549 joelmael Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:35:27 +0000 http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/13/late-late-nite-fdl-too-old-to-cut-the-mustard/#comment-1272549 <p>Hey Eureka,</p> <p>I respect this blog a great deal.</p> <p>I have had it with the bashing of the old. First it was Fred Thompson, now McCain. I despise McCain but not because he is old. You know the real reasons, I don’t have to recite them.</p> <p>Well, misogyny, racism, homophobia, etc are off the table for liberals, but it appears ageism, (disrespect for the old) still makes some of us feel good. </p> <p>We are now well into the 21 st century. It’s time to give up bashing groups who are not like you in some way.</p> <p>Joel Mael</p> Hey Eureka,

I respect this blog a great deal.

I have had it with the bashing of the old. First it was Fred Thompson, now McCain. I despise McCain but not because he is old. You know the real reasons, I don’t have to recite them.

Well, misogyny, racism, homophobia, etc are off the table for liberals, but it appears ageism, (disrespect for the old) still makes some of us feel good.

We are now well into the 21 st century. It’s time to give up bashing groups who are not like you in some way.

Joel Mael

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