ES!

Hiya ES. Good evening friends.

Hello Betsy. How are you?

John McCain and the Formaldehydes

You could actually distinguish between them…? ;-)

When are are the Dem leadership going to get a clue and start trying to make the Rethugs look like the obstructionist that they are.

When are we going to impeach this merry band of village idiots. We only have 10 months left to tell the world we don’t believe in the unitary executive. Come on the freaking Constitution needs you!

Howdy, Ma’am!

Well some potential good news from Louisiana. My unscientific poll of low information voters who have voted for Bush and Nader in the past shows that they like Obama. Who woulda thunk it. If he gets the nod I hope it holds up for the general.

I am doing well, thank you.

Anyone hungry?

A Golden Oldie, indeed!

Evening Eureka!
Some musical taste you have!

great msAnna

The Dem leadership just gave the Bush Crime Family a get out of jail free card in the form of the FISA bill. There will be no impeachment. Ever.

Not cutting the mustard, for example, the Hillary viral video, where the star great band of the moment falls to earth when their lead guitarist, Hillary, decides to run for president.
it’s too tired, sorry it’s too late, and I’m too tired to find it for you on you tube.

Hey, was that one of those whatcha’macallit record machines…? ;-)

As I watched John McCain and the Formaldehydes perform a victory eulogy in what looked to be a coat-room in a Virgina funeral parlor last night

can’t.stop.laughing

ES - that is perfectly deadly. Beautiful.

[and thanks so much for your heads-up on radioactive coal - you learned me]

This morning I was lying in bed listening to Stephanie Miller on Air America. She referred to McCain and his cronies at last nights victory speech as the “Cast from Cacoon.” I laughed for five minutes.

OMG, Pat Buchanan, said about McCain’s speech today: “It looked like they emptied the local hospice” about the folks around McCain. What do you think?

ES, since you asked what’s on my mind, I will share. I am immensely proud that Cassie searched for and found an LGBT valentine to put up on her post for today. Between some of the writers and commenters here and one of the hosts at Head ON Radio, she’s SO open minded and inclusive. SO amazing!

Sometimes I actually agree with Pat Buchanan. It scares me when it happens though.

WOW! Very cool. I saw McCain’s speech and was struck my how low key, low energy and high-fear it was.

Without Social Security.. we are all going to be cutting mustard till the end of days.. ANd old John is the very type of feller we will need to be cussin’ in our fading memories when the time comes.

Kirk, The video last night just floored me. (can’t you tell?) And the coal .. the coal burning has got to stop!

TexBetsy, you have much to be proud about.

Hurrah for Cassie - AND you!

If McCain chooses Ted Stevens as a running mate, it might help McCain to look younger….

TexB - I loved her post.. You have so much to be proud of in darling Cassie.

I think Pat Buchanan can kiss my ass. (Hm, where did I put that curare? Metaphorically speaking.) What a thing to say! How uncomplimentary to people in hospice care, how crass and unfeeling. Those are terminally ill people and they really don’t deserve to be compared to GOP fiends, scoundrels and thugs.

Kirk — Did you see that my son ALSO wrote about prejudice against gays and how he was one of only two kids in his class who are not scared of gays, gay marriage, etc.

I have an old Barbara Jordan story that has been on my mind since you had a chat on her several evens ago which I read but didn’t attend. I’m 68 now and Barbara Jordan was always a role model for me although I had never met her and some thought it was a bit unusual in those day since I am not African-American. My daughter knew my devotion to her from the time she was tiny. When she was at Ut-Austin,, I strongly encouraged her to take a graduate class from Barbara. It never happened but she managed to get over to a symposium she did.

Katie went up to her at the end, bent over to speak to her to thank her and then told her about how much of a role model she had been to me and then to Katie. With this, Katie started crying at the enormity of the event. At this point, Barbara started crying, grabbed her in her arms and they both cried and rocked for a while, Katie bending over her wheelchair. Neat story, huh? I weep a little every time I think about it. That happened just before she died.

Oh Rain, thank you for sharing that story!

Tears in Heaven.

flowers and cookies for all my friends. Happy Valentine’s day.

I’m forbidden there, Betsy… :(

Okay, remember you asked. I was reconsidering my very strong reservations about Senator Obama, due to his speech on ‘free trade’ today, when up pops yet another diary at dKos offering to assault anybody who did’t get with the Obama program.

I invited the clown to bring it on. My site’s easy to find. So….

Here’s my question:

‘Why do such a high percentage of Obama supporters act like assholes?

Really, inquiring minds wanna know.

My son went to CloseUp in Washington DC last spring, along with some other kids from his HS. They were there the same week as kids from Florida, Montana and Hawaii. I was totally surprised that he was one of only two or three out of a hundred kids in the program who would openly support liberal issues like ending the war and gay marriage. He wasn’t hassled for his beliefs by the other kids, though.

Well we almost fell off the sofa, what can we say?

Cool, I’m making Fudge for my Sweetie, tomorrow…!

Ouch! FORBIDDEN?

Thanks for the hat tip.

What for?

-G

rain - thank you so much, for sharing..

I can’t answer your question directly, but I’d ask you this: How many diary’s are put up there per day, by just anybody - anybody at all?

As for the asshole quotient, seems like a split to me.

Well I was only the third pup to digg this one! I guess I am slipping in my old age :>)

Tex, I haven’t yet yet see that - but as he is your son, I am not surprised.

You done good, Tex - as have your son and Cassie.

non-forbidden valentine cake

Is that corruption mill going to run for reelection?

-G

Kirk I linked to it in 26.

I don’t know, but I blame much of it on youth and the rest on folks who are new to political activism in general.. Nothing more infuriating than discovering the truth we hold to be self evident these days.

I see that marital aids are legal in Texas once again.

-G

Howie’s latest at DWT is rather disturbing:

REACTIONARY “DEMOCRATS” USING ANTI-SEMITISM AND HOMOPHOBIA TO STIR UP DIVISIVENESS IN MEMPHIS.

Sorry about shouting, but it’s worth a full read.

indeed.

Last night I was typing almost exact wording as yours on FDL simulataneously on a different blog.. Anyway, my thoughts combined with yours.. inspired this post..)

Huzzah.

Thanks.

-G

That’s enough to piss off the pope.

Cohen just brought a resolution to the House floor today commemorating the NAACP’s 99th anniversary…! That is total BS…

Feeling a little formal tonight?

This time, I won’t tell you what to do with that plastic.

dunno, sorry
On the same topic I have seen some really nasty diaries over at Kos written about Obama. So at least in those diaries, it is understandable but not all of us are obnoxious just like not all of Hillary’s supporters are obnoxious.

I lived in Memphis years and years ago. Looks like it hasn’t changed much.

No need, I am already digging it out.
I never fail to be amazed just how low some people will go in this country.
You would think nothing would surprise me anymore but that is just fucking ignorant.

Oops - forgot to change out of my posting prom handle.

But…if it helps…I’m blogging in sweats.

(too c-c-cold for pj’s)

Busted - you get a chance to watch the Floyd piece yet?

Won’t need a young Prezident with a nuclear war all the neocons will go to heaven

ES… should have started out by saying that this may be one of your best ever. But damn if Howie’s post just pissed me off so much that I forgot my manners.

I just picked it up this afternoon,today is Granny’s birthday, I will wait till later.

He sez he is. I predict he will end up not running - for one reason or another.

Done deal.

hey big brother - i left you a message downstairs

Is that the Rapture…? ;-)

Yeah and tell the world we didn’t mean to do it ‘the devil made us do it’ s grnandmother would have said. Is there a plan to get out of the soup with the other nations?

RBG - Agreed.. My whistle is nowhere near finished steamin’. And thanks!

Preferably, because of being frog marched out…!

Looks like the lake is gaining a wider following. In todays Harper’s magazine once again Scott Horton has opined a fine article:
Treating the Constitution as a Doormat

He links to Dodd’s defense of the constitution, quotes Glenn Greenwald and at the end he has linked to the FDL petition to try and stop the FISA bill in the house….
http://harpers.org/archive/2008/02/hbc-90002382

I guess we are having some impact on all things FISA and I am glad we are getting more recoginition for all of the great work our FireDogLake writers and supporters are doing to protect our basic rights as citizens and of our constitution that has stood the test of several hundred years as is. And it dam well needs no changing just to protect some dam corporations who broke the law at the behest of this lawless administration..
If you haven’t yet be sure to sign the petition @ http://action.firedoglake.com/.....estoreFISA
Lets keep working on this until we defeat those who would destroy our constitution in name of greed and power!!

I shall bid ya’ll a fond adieu! Aloha Oe!!!

night all.

Let’s be carful about the age thing. My mother (79 this year) is older than McCain, and is a full on Obama supporter. It’s the age of the thinking, not the person we should focus on.

nite ctuttle
nite betsy

Giggling — but also sorta sad that it’s now a bad thing to be old. Right when I arrive there

g’nite ct
pain free sleep wishes tex

I wrote this about Sen. Toobz last month:

Sen. Stevens does not have six years of mental stability left in him. I’ve watched him drift in and out of acuity for years, but it is on the verge of getting out of hand.

g’nite ct - good dreams!

g’nite texb - wishing you pain-free sleep…and a lifetime of pride and joy in your son and Cassie.

thanks y’all. sleep well CT

i agree.. and McCain is thinking in the age of the Robber Barons. Evidently, with his pro torture vote today, he wouldn’t mind revisiting the dark ages as well.

I think anyone running for President who is old enough to have been collecting Social Security checks for many years does bring about questions about if they can actually fulfill the 4 year commitment - and much closer scrutiny of their VP pick.

Hi Nahant: Thanks for the link to that Scott Horton article, a masterpiece.

But based on the expression on the faces of his supporters last night, he’s not too old to cut the cheese.

Thanx…did respond bounced abarrow at sbcglobal dot net
try it.
[ModNote: Edited for safety.]

Hiya Suzanne.

i have seen some pretty damn sharp people that were in their eighties and nineties.
McCain wouldn’t have held a candle to them on his best day.

His admittance of being basically ignorant on economic issues sent a chill down my spine.
On top of being a flip flopping pro torture war monger, he doesn’t do fractions.
Good Grief.

Obama for President Edwards for Vice President 2008!

He;s thinking about securing the base of the party that he’s cast his lot with. Mr Integrity, Mr. Maverick is primarily concerned with one principle - he should be President - no matter what compromises that entails. This is the disurbing corrollary to the Clinton campaign.

It explains far too many of her votes - the use of force authorization against Iraq, the classifiaction of the Republican guards as a terrorist organization - need I go on? It’s the risiculous assumption that Democrats can look tough by agreeing with Republicans.
Look tough by standing up for what you believe in. People get it even when they disagree.

Dang…I sorry I gpt confused..I thought the idea was to make the whole world free so they could enjoy the rights we have…hmmm have to take em prisoner first I guess…go figure

I know exactly what you mean. You always have to wonder where that could lead.

I’m just saying that the age of the candidate does factor in - especially given the last of the Ray-gun years. Just as a young candidate has their lack of experience questioned, I also question whether an elderly candidate’s age has impaired their mental abilities and whether they are physically capable of performing the duties of the office for the 4 year term.

I said “resiculous” and i meant “resiculous”.

I still think humor does better than maligning wrt the age thingy…
Greg had this last night.
Brilliant!

I was merely pointing out Crazy train was never qualified to begin with.
I agree with everything you said.
*g*

Now it’s beddy bye time fer me, I’m whupped.
Nite y’all.

i wasn’t maligning - and i apologize if it was taken that way. i was just saying that it is one of the things i consider when looking at who to vote for to hold the office

Exactly. P 4/4 Tell me, do you remember this old song (TOTCTM)? Am curious if you do and still thought it might not be a good campaign diddy? I don’t think H or B should directly use it.. but some old PAC might have a ball with it and it’s far more tame than most. Plus it brings up a lot of old humorous memories in the older crowd (I would think).

g’nite busted

I’m not saying that McCain has squamous cells older than Obama, but there are more pertinent lines of attack.

I don’t remeber it - but I want to. Refresh my memory.

Not by me. Just leaning on you for the point. :-)

Believe me when I say I thought about Patricks argument before posting and hoped the question would come up.

This is the youtube I didn’t use of the song tonight.. Old folks singing it and having a grand time.

BILL CARLISLE - Too Old To Cut The Mustard

Well I am off to bed have to see the Doc tomorrow and it an early appointment.
Here is a little George Winston ear candy for a windy night here in the Bay area. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_HmDBJwMlo

Enjoy and good night to all those other sleepy firepups… see you the next late late late night @ the Lake :>)

My folks used to listen to old Radio Mystery Theater and other programs on Sunday nights after 60 minutes in Omaha NE, 1971 - 73. It’s where I learned the song.. everyone loved it, sang it out loud, young and old. I think Buck Owens used to play it frequently, but the song is older than Buck.

Last night McCain said that in his youth he thought all glory was “self-glory.” He claims that he eventually learned better. But how could that be true when he’s obviously eager and willing to abandon everything principle in which he ever professed to believe in order to be crowned? His mention - and dismissal - of this character flaw is an interesting collision of self-awareness and self-delusion.

Nite nahant, take good care!

nite nahant
good thoughts

g’nite nahant - fingers and toes crossed for a good appt

I have to wonder, what exactly is self glory?

I think he must mean individual Kobe Bryant - type glory - as opposed to common or collective glory. But, come to think of it, should glory be something we’re aiming for at all?

I’m confused. Will someone fill me in? I’ve been at all-day workshops two days in a row, and I seem to have conflicting information about where we stand on the FISA fiasco.

[*] Yesterday, one of my Senators (Inouye] voted for Telcom immunity.

[*] Today, everyone seems to be talking like the Senate has already voted to approve the SSCI version of the Senate FISA bill, without any significant amendments, giving Bush everything he wanted. If true, I am VASTLY disappointed by our venal, corrupt Democratic Senate that could not even muster 41 votes to kill the bill. Is this true?

[*] If so, the center of action now shifts back to the House, which apparently tried today to get a 15-day extension on the existing PAA, but that was rejected. The PAA is set to expire on Saturday, right?

[*] If the House does NOTHING, that leaves the RESTORE bill on the table, which would have to be reconciled with the Senate bill, right?

[*] Bush was fear-mongering today, and was at his despicable worst.

So is our last best hope to persuade the House to do NOTHING new about FISA, and make them reconcile (and probably allow PAA to expire?)

Bob in HI
Puzzled in “Paradise”

Antiwar.com has a fine article by Justin Raimondo on the resurgence of the neocons, of whom he disapproves:

Like vampires risen from th