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		<title>By: republicanSScareme</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-fiasco-live-on-cspan2/#comment-1269276</link>
		<dc:creator>republicanSScareme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Our country is run by a pack of criminals, Democrats and Republicans. They’re all bought and paid for by the criminal rich. People, take back our country!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our country is run by a pack of criminals, Democrats and Republicans. They’re all bought and paid for by the criminal rich. People, take back our country!</p>
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		<title>By: MarkH</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-fiasco-live-on-cspan2/#comment-1269225</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I saw a wrinkle in his shirt. He’s obviously unfit to serve in government.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hey, if he can get elected because of a nice suit, then any little wrinkle is grounds for not voting him in. Right?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your candidate sucks! And, don’t you forget you were told.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw a wrinkle in his shirt. He’s obviously unfit to serve in government.</p>
<p>Hey, if he can get elected because of a nice suit, then any little wrinkle is grounds for not voting him in. Right?</p>
<p>Your candidate sucks! And, don’t you forget you were told.</p>
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		<title>By: ekunin</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-fiasco-live-on-cspan2/#comment-1268715</link>
		<dc:creator>ekunin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 18:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What do you have against Obama?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do you have against Obama?</p>
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		<title>By: kirk  murphy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-fiasco-live-on-cspan2/#comment-1268668</link>
		<dc:creator>kirk  murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;FWIW, the current version of zfone is free.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I do agree that we are all better served by secure phone networks - but pusuing both strategies (personal encryption for those who can/will AND working for snoop-free comms for all) seems quite ethical.  The latter goal and the former tool are not mutually exclusive.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;[I work for and support single-payer; but when I need to use I also use my own private insurance coverage - though I dislike the divide, my effectiveness as a change agent is only diminished if I forego the (ethical) tools legally available to me simply because all do not have access to such tools]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As far as our personal use of encryption softeware, the Feds’ freak-out over PGP illustrates that Zimmerman’s encryption technologies appear quite able to withstand Ft. Meade and are constructed in such a way as to obviate the “key” problem.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Both Wired and (IIRC) BoingBoing have discussed these techy aspects in detail.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;My take-home message: free personal encryption software so powerful even Wired thinks it will defeat NSA snoopin is available for us to legally use.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, the current version of zfone is free.</p>
<p>I do agree that we are all better served by secure phone networks &#8211; but pusuing both strategies (personal encryption for those who can/will AND working for snoop-free comms for all) seems quite ethical.  The latter goal and the former tool are not mutually exclusive.</p>
<p>[I work for and support single-payer; but when I need to use I also use my own private insurance coverage - though I dislike the divide, my effectiveness as a change agent is only diminished if I forego the (ethical) tools legally available to me simply because all do not have access to such tools]</p>
<p>As far as our personal use of encryption softeware, the Feds’ freak-out over PGP illustrates that Zimmerman’s encryption technologies appear quite able to withstand Ft. Meade and are constructed in such a way as to obviate the “key” problem.</p>
<p>Both Wired and (IIRC) BoingBoing have discussed these techy aspects in detail.  </p>
<p>My take-home message: free personal encryption software so powerful even Wired thinks it will defeat NSA snoopin is available for us to legally use.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbrother</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-fiasco-live-on-cspan2/#comment-1268634</link>
		<dc:creator>bigbrother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That would remove Reid as chair and they could go negative on the Rethugs until the new election. Blame them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would remove Reid as chair and they could go negative on the Rethugs until the new election. Blame them.</p>
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		<title>By: selise</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-fiasco-live-on-cspan2/#comment-1268606</link>
		<dc:creator>selise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don’t like divides between haves and have-nots where the rich can buy their way into privacy. I say onto the House!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;agreed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i was thinking that if enough people did it all at once the purpose would not be individual protection, but rather as a way to monkey wrench the system.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I don’t like divides between haves and have-nots where the rich can buy their way into privacy. I say onto the House!</p>
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<p>agreed.</p>
<p>i was thinking that if enough people did it all at once the purpose would not be individual protection, but rather as a way to monkey wrench the system.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbrother</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-fiasco-live-on-cspan2/#comment-1268598</link>
		<dc:creator>bigbrother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The stock market up is not synonomous with a good economy. Millions of households are not doing well at all. Many industries are in deep trouble. Stocks go up an down but have lost a lot of equity the last 8 months. Added to that our dolloar is worth 50% of 2000 value.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The stock market up is not synonomous with a good economy. Millions of households are not doing well at all. Many industries are in deep trouble. Stocks go up an down but have lost a lot of equity the last 8 months. Added to that our dolloar is worth 50% of 2000 value.</p>
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		<title>By: IrishJIm</title>
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		<dc:creator>IrishJIm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It wouldn’t make a difference. Encryption technology is considered a “munitions” and is regulated by the Dept. of Defense. Whatever technology the Telco was using commercially, the DoD would have a key to decipher in a matter of seconds.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wouldn’t make a difference. Encryption technology is considered a “munitions” and is regulated by the Dept. of Defense. Whatever technology the Telco was using commercially, the DoD would have a key to decipher in a matter of seconds.</p>
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		<title>By: bigbrother</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-fiasco-live-on-cspan2/#comment-1268580</link>
		<dc:creator>bigbrother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Leadership appreciated…Thank You and Glenn I made my calls this morn Jello’s staff hung up&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leadership appreciated…Thank You and Glenn I made my calls this morn Jello’s staff hung up</p>
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		<title>By: mui1</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2008/02/12/fisa-fiasco-live-on-cspan2/#comment-1268576</link>
		<dc:creator>mui1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Excuse me @153. The “pink-in-me”.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me @153. The “pink-in-me”.</p>
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