Remember that time you went to the mall and you were just there to look for a couple of things when in the distance you saw coming toward you — though he had not seen you yet — that one guy you went out with once a long time ago. A date that started out awkwardly enough, but then just after ordering for you, this guy started telling you how he liked to wear large diapers and asked to call you "mommy"? Then, as you tried to rehinge your dropped jaw, he pulled out the baby powder and asked for your hand in spanking?
So you promptly ducked into Radio Shack and hid for several minutes.
What?
That’s right, you don’t have to remember because that guy has been President for 85 months!
And he won’t be going away soon enough, because he thinks you abruptly took off because you were just so powerfully attracted to him — and it was overwhelming.
So naturally, his endorsement, from his perspective, is the most important thing ever.
My attitude is, so long as they’re talking about me, we have a better chance of winning because our candidate will — what’s going to matter is not the past but the future when it comes to campaigns.
If the Democrat Party feels like they can win an election by focusing on me, I think they’d be making a huge tactical mistake. But I hope they do that then because our candidate will be able to talk about the future.
You would think the GOP nominee would run away as fast as they could from a statement like this — trying to avoid comment at all. But the McCain candidacy is such that it cannot quit him:
With Mr. McCain facing resistance from conservatives, Mr. Bush has also emerged as the man Republicans, including the McCain camp, are counting on to unite the party. One McCain adviser, Charlie Black, called Mr. Bush “a political asset” in an interview last week. Another, speaking anonymously to discuss strategy, said Mr. Bush needed to “put his arms around John McCain,” by figuratively linking himself with the senator in public comments.
Hmmmmm, seems familiar, but I can’t seem to scroll up and confirm why.
And the worst thing for McCain is this anonymous staffer is right in one sense, and as we all know, disastrously, hilariously wrong, in every other one.
The activist GOP Base for all their usual lack-of-logical reasons detests McCain and as the party elites and the beltway media try to foist him upon them they get angrier as they receive actual logical reasons. Just look at Washington State this weekend where the Party Chairman shut off the voting with more than 10 percent left to count in order to call it for McCain at the earliest possible opportunity — and avoid an even more embarrassing 0-for-Three weekend for the presumptive nominee.
We are heading to a convention, in Minneapolis, where as soon as the Larry Craig jokes die out McCain is going to have to devote an entire night of his convention to how much he loves Bush. He may even have to let the Chimperor have a night to speak, and save another night for Cheney. What’s more, I predict Bush will demand a night, maybe two, in which he discusses his awesomeness and berates the then 75 to 80% of the country that detests him. There may be shoe-on-podium violence. All to keep the base less angry while the rest of the country solidify against McCain.



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Morning Attaturk
Morning, Attaturk…
Dontcha just love that picture?
344!
The photo that keeps on giving.
Oh no they won’t. That bathroom has long been a tourist attraction shortly after the incident…and it going on full steam in anticipation of August. (Disclosure: I live in Minneapolis and frequent that airport at least once a week when I fly outta town. As soon as I clear security, I’m on Northern Crossing where I have to walk by that bathroom to get to my concourse. I usually see about 2-3 tourists lingering, taking pictures, and so on.
Photo is out there – time to make lemonade. Novak column coming soon – the McCain-Bush relationship is a HUGE asset. bwahahaha!
Good Morning, Firepups!
It’s clear and bitter cold here in central Jersey (10°, with a definite wind chill, brrrr). These are not happy days for Republicans, but I’ve never lost a bet that the MSM would do its utmost to sabotage the Dems. The media narrative still paints the Dems in a dissarray, Repubs better on national security issues, and Bush as an effective leader (I read about the sycophantic interview Chris Wallace had yesterday with C+ Augustus, and nearly lost my breakfast.)
I’ve made a batch of herb biscuits this morning, and there are big pots of coffee and good strong black tea (Red Rose, for those who are looking for something other than the ubiquitious and bitter Lipton). Help yourselves. I’ve got laundry to finish and some other chores before I head out the door.
Work for peace, every day.
And, as my grandmother always said, tell the truth and shame the devil!
Good morning everyone.
*spitting coffee out* Waking up to Bush & McCrazy hugging and getting all cozy is not something I want to see first thing!
And Yahoo says NO! to Microsoft…
joe smuck still MIA….inquiring minds want to know.
And Google’s happy.
Good morning Attaturk, Biodun, and all.
Morning Biudun, welcome on board the writing team.
yo
Thanks, my friend!
Yo! Have a nice weekend with your lovely wife?Did you give her a hug like McCain is giving Chimpy above? *g*
Good morning Attaturk et pups.
The question is, on this cold as hell day, is would you rather kiss lierman or hug McPiss?
I think that the chimpenfhuerer would rather sit and watch snuff movies with boots
Biodun:
_________________(from last thread…. i went away and didn’t return)
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In response to fahrender @ 172
I guess it’s a good thing I’m now out of the zed hunt…You know why, right?
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no, i didn’t get that story …..
OT–but not really, as related to McCain:
Now that I can access FDL admin, I can see the schedule of articles on queue…Wouldn’t be fair. Playing field has to be level…
Good morning, pups. It’s Monday so we’re subjected to Kristol in the Times today. We also have Cohen and Krugman. Kristol (AWATT) typed a thing called “Obama’s Path to Victory,” where he says that around 9 p.m. Tuesday night, television networks probably will be announcing, for the first time, that Barack Obama holds an unambiguous delegate lead. Mr Cohen says Barack Obama is what the Middle East needs an American leader to be: a strong but not uncritical supporter of Israel. However, he says it is a tough position for him to hold. Mr. Krugman’s column is titled “Hate Springs Eternal,” in the Democratic party, and he says most of the venom is coming from supporters of Barack Obama, who want their hero or nobody, and that his campaign seems dangerously close to becoming a cult of personality.
http://mgpaquin.wordpress.com/
The coffee, tea and hot chocolate are ready, and the biscuits are out of the oven. As lovely as the picture up at the top is, I rather prefer this one. Have a great day.
Marion, What surprised me about Krugman’s article was that he assigned no responsibility to Sen. Clinton’s campaign or campaigners, aka, Bill. Did anyone see the 60 minutes interview with Clinton and Obama last night? Obama was asked about his Pakistan comments while Clinton was asked about what type of student she was.
Marion, I’m shocked. ;=)
i’ve stumbled across a few. never took it to the competitive level …….
Krugman says most of the venom is coming from supporters of Barack Obama, who want their hero or nobody, and that his campaign seems dangerously close to becoming a cult of personality.
I’m sorry, but this is just Krugman spouting the latest media talking point. IMO, it is beneath him to act like a concern troll.
To spend one’s time measuring whether Obama or Clinton supporters whine about the other more is a suckers’ game.
Morning Marion I really need that hot chocolate this AM. It is 11degrees with a howling wind. Thanks
Funny though, I, as an Edwards supporter and therefor do not have a puppy in the fight, find that the clinton people are the most vitriolic. Either way it is all playing into the gooper hands with two groups of “pcs” scrapping with each other. Another reason why I was, and still am, an Edwards supporter.
Didn’t see it but here’s K/ drum’s take:
http://www.washingtonmonthly.c…..013098.php
I didn’t see the interview. I was rather surprised too. However, just judging from what I’ve heard down here a surprising number of people are saying that if Obama doesn’t get the nomination they won’t vote. Which is distressing.
All anyone has to say is “Katie Couric” and I can feel my IQ shriveling up…
good strong black tea (Red Rose, for those who are looking for something other than the ubiquitious and bitter Lipton).
Have you tried PG Tips (the British version in the cubic box, with pyramidal teabags)?
KayInMaine – did you caucus yesterday?
First time for me – what fun! It was specifically requested by one voter that all speeches for candidates be FOR a candidate, not AGAINST. That made for a very pleasant afternoon.
I was quite active in the zed hunt during weekdays. I freelance for BBC World Service and work online at my workstation, so I double-dip into the Lake…if you know what I mean, so I have several windows open…
And toward the end there, Ann in AZ and I were duking it out…
Bush is just pissing everyone off…
‘The US administration is pressing the 27 governments of the European Union to sign up for a range of new security measures for transatlantic travel, including allowing armed guards on all flights from Europe to America by US airlines.
The demand to put armed air marshals on to the flights is part of a travel clampdown by the Bush administration that officials in Brussels described as “blackmail” and “troublesome”, and could see west Europeans and Britons required to have US visas if their governments balk at Washington’s requirements.’
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worl…..neindustry
MSNBC replaying clip from yesterday that shows Chimpy saying McCain is a true conservative…
I was at fox woods this morning playing some poker with the locals
this is a liberal town and they hate bush but let me tell you something, the marketing the republicans have mounted against Hillary for these 7 years has been remarkably effective
as the news station was talking about her, all I could here were vile remarks about her
I hate to say it, but we need the hatred for bush to be greater then the hatred amassed by the republicans against Hillary
they knew she’d be running and they’ve been running against her for 7 years
no matter which candidate we field, our representatives are going to face the most vicious campaign in history
I hope they know this and I hope they prepare themselves, it’s not only going to take answering the attacks, it’s going to take laughing in the attackers face, attack both the message, the messenger for even repeating the rubbish, and the president’s sick depraved party
that’s got to be the strategy they are preparing to counter what they will face
Marion, Hillary’s foreign policy concerns be and at first I thought that I would not vote for her but living in GA, I have that option. The next democratic President might need a high vote count nationally just for added support, so I might reconsider.
Whoops, Hillary’s foreign policy concerns me not be! Time for coffee.
Regardless of any (albeit strong) opinions I have about HRC, I will campaign for and vote for the Democratic nominee.
Period.
I do not need GWB or FDL to connect McCain to those policies.
(FDL – please continue to connect the dots, tho)
Late to the Edwards thread, perhaps his endorsement is most valuable to that – making certain ths the policies of the past 8 years are not maintained.
And Salon’s Walter Shapiro allows himself to speculate:
Oh yes! I was out in Paris, Maine (blogged about it) yesterday during blizzard-like conditions along with 45,000+ Mainahs! Had a wonderful time. In my little town, Obama won it 33-27. :-)
For the weather junkies:
It’s below zero this morning with the windchill and on top of Mt. Washington (I’m in the foothills of the mountains near the New Hampshire border) in New Hampshire, IT’S 65 BELOW ZERO THIS MORNING!
Good gawd is it cold here today!
Paris, TX
Paris, France
I should also add…..Hope, Maine chose Obama to represent them! Nice, huh?
Yessah, theyah all simalah! LOL
Well it is -3 wind chill here at the coast Kay. Well done on the caucuses yesterday. My wife and I spent a lot of time calling friends in ME, across the border, and found almost all we know out at the caucuses. Great turnout!
David Axelrod is not as inspiring as the person he works for…
So basically, it’s warm on the coast of Maine this morning, huh? LOL Just kidding….
Fantastic, Nomolos, about getting involved! It was a great day…despite the wethah! :-) Yesterday was my first caucus and I’ve volunteered to be a delegate for Obama too. It’s all new to me, but I can tell, it’s going to be a blast from here on out.
My son froze his little butt off this morning waiting for the bus for only a couple of minutes. Man is it cold!
hey, we need to get this out to the democrats so they have it in hand when someone tries to say mccain is a reagan republican or that reagan was ‘reaganesque;
the article is respite with links and referances
I especailly love pointing out that reagan did NOT lower taxes, he raised taxes
what he DID do was redistribute taxes, from us>the wealthiest people on the planet
Well done. Award yourself an extra cup of Marion’s hot choc this morning!!
Kayin Maine, For those of us lurking yesterday, your updates were great. Thanks! Stay warm.
i haven’t been doing any statistics but Krugman’s pointing the finger at the Obama supporters/campaign surprises me. i respect Krugman a lot so i’ll have to pay more attention to see if i think he’s really right.
some of the most obnoxious (should i say forceful instead?) trolls here lately have been Clinton backers. i don’t like it from either side and the ones that say they won’t vote if their candidate doesn’t get the nom are just two-year-olds who can fair thee well fuck off.
Thanks for the extra hot chocolate! It’s needed. I think my stomach just cracked as soon as it hit it. LOL
JPL9, thank you, but I wasn’t the only one updating. Turn Maine Blue did a fantastic job of putting the numbers up for each town as they got them. Valley Girl and others here were keeping the spotlight on Maine as well!
We had a wikkid good time yestahday. :-)
Okay, I’m off to work. Let’s hope the cah starts!
here are the facts as linked to in the article of reagans supposed tax cuts, it’s a myth plain and simple;
Well I am a 65 year old two year old. I voted for clinton1 eons ago and held my nose tightly while doing so. For my troubles I got NAFTA, welfare reform, no health care, a gooper controlled senate, a gooper controlled house….I could go on. No, no and no again I will not, under any circumstances vote for clinton2. Will not happen, no way and I am still 65.
Krugman has been quite vocal in his support of Clinton, especially on his blog. His column did not surprise me at all. Frank Rich has been just the opposite and both of them need to calm down.
tea bags. my serious tea brewing SignifOther finds Trader Joe’s Irish Breakfast tea bags acceptable wakeup/stay up brews.
The subject of teas–one of life’s joys after FDL, and best the two together in the am.
If anyone is interested in tea and to procrastinate (before going out in the 10 feels like -9 weather to see if the car starts):
At Xmas time only, Starbucks has in bags a strong black tea mix with added spices –nothing sweet–called Joy. Their others are bleh.
Peets carries excellent teas. The one in the most opinionated zip code in the BlueBayState (hint, it’s home to the university that gave BO his law degree) always has a pot of brewed tea on for free tasting. SignifOther likes Pride of the Port. Takes his work there and settles in with a cup.
Then, if you are flush and want to pursue serious tea drinking, there’s Harney’s catalogue. They have a shop in CT. where you can sample their wares endlessly.
SignifOther finds their bags disappointing.
Less tony,less expensive in the BlueBayState by catalogue only, Upton Tea
OK now to drink the aforementioned beverage and go out in aforementioned weather.
http://www.uptontea.com
http://www.harney.com
Raven,
I spoke rudely to you last week.
No excuse. My apologies.
Why Paris, Maine? Any connection to the fact that it was founded in 1792 –I know as I have been there and have taken a picture to send to my Froggie friends.
Back from the walk! Compost compost compost this weekend, football is over and my butt belongs to her foe endless projects!
I find it sweet and justifying that Bush’s ego is so massive that he’ll need the GOP to massage it until he supposedly leaves office.
The man claims to not care about what polls say, but the personal and surrogate blitz comparing him to Lincoln, the constant refrains about how history will judge him warmly.
He is desperate, cloying and unwilling to let go of the spotlight.
He is the worst of the worst.
And he’s going to hang himself like an anvil around John McCain’s neck.
-G
Saw the 60 Mins coverage and did a little postcard from my homeblog about it.
Interesting that Kroft interviewed Obama, Katie interviewed Hillary about Obama…. kind of summed up the whole weekend for Hillary.
Prairie Today: To Your Health
Ha, if I didn’t deserve it that time I’m sure I earned if karmically!
Note in the photo of McCain hanging onto Bush how stiff his hand is, arthritic looking. Now it was a metaphorically stiff moment, but there are I am told health issues of great concern to voters and of great moment to the veep candidate for the rethugs.
Happy year of the Rat, and may it be that of the DemocRAT (HT to TexBetsey).
Off to work and cold weather we go.
“huge tactical mistake”
Ha hah ha ha. There he goes again. Nice context.
politics is like making sausage. i suppose who gets on the supreme court isn’t an issue for you. and a lot of other things like stem cell research, etc. i would like a more progressive candidate than we are being offered. i was for John Edwards. if it’s a choice between John McCain and Hillary Clinton, i will gladly vote for Hillary. if you don’t see the urgency of voting for the better choice maybe your maturity isn’t what you suppose it to be. maybe…..
I believe one of the Republican poobahs, a Senator and I can’t think who? Maybe Grassley or someone similiar, said McCain needs to pick a young runningmate.
McCain also said that he sees no need for regional balance of the ticket either.
That is making me think the GOP is leaning towards Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota.
-G
The linked article is very good (Washington State this weekend where the Party Chairman shut off the voting), and has an update as well:
Late Update: It seems that Washington State GOP chair Luke Esser spent most of the day avoiding calls from the Huckabee campaign. And when he finally got back to them he told a lawyer for Huckabee’s campaign that they’d probably count the rest of the votes some time next week. When the lawyer, Lauren Huckabee, the candidate’s daughter-in-law, requested that a Huckabee lawyer be present when the remaining votes were counted, Esser hung up on her. Before the hang up, Huckabee also asked Esser about the DIY statistical analysis he did to conclude that he should call the race (Esser’s expertise in statistics apparently stems from previous work as a state prosectur and a sports writer). Was there an analysis of what precincts the remaining votes came from? According to Huck campaign manager Ed Rollins, Esser admitted that he didn’t which precincts the remaining votes came from.
Frankly neither I nor my spouse who has worked in the Choice movement for over thirty years find that clinton2 would hold firm to a pro-choice supreme court nominee. We both find that she would go to where the money is and nominate a screamer if that would help her power base.
And I do not claim to be mature….so stop being personal.
in defense of krugman…
i don’t have cable tv, so my exposure to talking points is primarily through reading blogs (especially the comments, or diaries). and i think krugman may be right, and it scares the shit out of me…. because i am no fan of either clinton (to put it mildly) and obama looks to be my only alternative.
OK nomolos. the truth is that i don’t know anything about you or your wife. my original comment was directed at petulant people who, in my view, are immature politically if not disingenuous.
i’m not keen in any way for Hillary but if your distaste for her is so great that you think John McCain would make us better off than Hillary would, you’re entitled to that position. my amoral politics won’t let me agree.
i meant no offense to you and certainly not to your wife. i do think that eight years of the Clintons was clearly better than eight years of George W Bush. if we don’t stand together and elect a Democrat this coming November we could well find out what would be worse than both Clinton and Bush. now that Edwards is out of the race i hope to vote for Obama. i will vote for Hillary if she is the nominee.
berating people for an honestly held view, no matter how wrong you think it is, is NOT the way to convince them to reconsider.
You well might conclude that my reasoning is that of a petulant, politically immature person.
Hillary Rodham could earn my vote for president of the United States. However, Hillary Clinton – essentially the same person – can under no circumstance get my approval.
George Washington was correct to step down as he did, in spite of the Neanderthals among our human population urging him to assume the mantle of nobility just-so-recently and violently cast off. The Adams family was not strong enough to resist and the result was a nonperforming disaster. The Bush family actively and openly pursued and pursues dynastic ambitions even as and after all iterations are disastrous, with the last an unmitigated failure empowering the worst elements to the detriment of civilization.
If Hillary Clinton were elected, at the end of eight years my 39-year-old daughter would have been under the rule of the Bush and Clinton families for all of her life as a voting adult.
We have, as a people, long recognized the problems of nepotism in government. We have made rules to root it out at many levels. The dangers of nepotism at the federal level are now glaringly apparent in all branches. The results will haunt us for many decades.
A wise people would see this, and seek to prevent it – either through laws or with the ballot. My wisdom may be foolishness for you, but – yes – I think that a President McCain under a veto-proof Democratic Congress is less a danger to my daughter and grand-daughter than a precedent-setting continuation of one-family rule.
I’m a Hillary supporter, and I find it mind boggling that anyone could deny the fact that Obama supporters, at least online, spew a much higher level of vitriol than Clinton supporters. This isn’t based entirely on my personal prejudice. I just came around to supporting Hillary about three weeks ago, and one of the tipping points for me was the amount of time I was spending on blogs defending her against ridiculous accusations and innuendo. I would begin each comment by saying something like “I’m not a Hillary supporter, but I have to defend her here.” After a while, I just found it sickening how much hatred there was towards her. I didn’t support her because Obama’s supporters were so nasty, but the process of constantly defending her helped crystallize my thoughts.
I think part of the problem is that Obama has brought in a lot of people who are relatively new to politics, and don’t understand that you can engage in a primary campaign without hating and demonizing the opponent. I think it’s indisputable that way more Obama supporters insist they won’t vote for Hillary in the GE than vice versa. But I’m willing to bet that they wouldn’t be so full of hate towards her if she was running against Biden and Richardson. But they love Obama, so Hillary must be the personification of evil.
I really think the reason so many OBama supporters can’t see the difference in attitude between the two groups of supporters is because they get whipped into such a frenzy over every standard campaigning move Hillary makes. So she went to Florida the night of the primary to declare victory. So what? Obama had a big win in South Carolina, and her campaign was staging an event to try and take some of the luster off. But to hear Obama supporters, she was being “Rovian” and “slimy,” as if Obama never stages events. I guess all of his campaign stops are just groups of true believers gathered on the banks of the Ganges. I have to say, many Obama supporters seem to be cut from the same cloth as right wing radio listeners, in that they seem to live to be outraged by any move the Clinton campaign makes.
And to save time for a lot of commenters, I certainly recognize that there are many good reasons to support Obama, and that he has tons of well reasoned and civil supporters. Obviously,I’m not talking about them.
As a side note, can we please stop applying the term “troll” to everyone we disagree with? If someone makes a point, then returns to defend their point or refute what others are saying, they’re not a troll. The word has lost all meaning as it applies to blogs.
So are first ladies automatically precluded from running in your book, or do the Clintons somehow have responsibility for the fact that there have been two Bushes as President? And if the Supreme Court had ruled differently in 2000, would Hillary now suddenly be an acceptable candidate?
And do you think McCain will change his tune that we need more Roberts and Alito types on the Supreme Court because the Dems have a veto proof majority? As I said in my last comment, there are many good reasons to support Obama. But this dynasty stuff is nonsense. You must have been very disappointed when Obama enthusiastically accepted Ted Kennedy’s endorsement. I mean, who represents political dynasties more than Ted?
When he came to NYC pre super-T, ex-gov Pataki was directly behind him and Rudiculous was at the side, way away.
Pataki is young, east, and very hungry for office.
i am so NOT a hillary supporter – but on this point we agree.
selise February 11th, 2008 at 6:11 am
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if we don’t stand together and elect a Democrat this coming November
berating people for an honestly held view, no matter how wrong you think it is, is NOT the way to convince them to reconsider.
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this is so EPU’d that you’ll probably not read it. never-the-less, here goes:
when i wrote my opinion (which, evidently, got nomolos going), it wasn’t directed at any individual. i don’t care who anybody supports. i’m not a Hillary supporter and i do support Obama since “my” candidate, Edwards, suspended his campaign. my gripe, and i think it is a very valid one, is that given the situation our country is in we do not have the luxury to sit out an election or throw away our vote just because we don’t like the candidate that best represents the interests of this country.
is John McCain a better choice than Hillary Clinton? if so, vote for him.
George Bush would never have become president of this country if enough Americans had thought about whether or not Bush or Al Gore was the better candidate. whether they didn’t bother at all to vote or decided that Ralph Nader was a good way to express their contempt for the other two, people with this frame of mind allowed us to be living the disaster we are now in the middle of.
i hope i get to vote for Obama. however, i will still gladly vote for Hillary if she’s the candidate. if she is the candidate and if she confounds all her critics and actually wins the election she will prove a far better president than all of the nay sayers would have us believe.